Obama signs $600M border security bill into law

[nagio]

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Friday signed into law a $600 million border security that will put more agents and equipment along the Mexican border.

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Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100813/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_border_security)

[sanju_dba]

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Friday signed into law a $600 million border security that will put more agents and equipment along the Mexican border.

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Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100813/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_border_security)

isnt this $600M is comming off of the 2k hike on h1 50-50 rule?
if so, any one who wants think of getting rid of h1s they should also think of loosing this border security measure.

[jnagendra]

Total H1Bs sponsored by the dirty 4 Indian companies are 12000 multiplied by $2000, gives 12 million if you add same no of L1 visas its only 24 million not 600 million. Obama requires a calculator .

[new2gc]

Total H1Bs sponsored by the dirty 4 Indian companies are 12000 multiplied by $2000, gives 12 million if you add same no of L1 visas its only 24 million not 600 million. Obama requires a calculator .

Poor guys... they can give away $7.5 Billion to some country as Aid, but cannot secure their own borders without increasing burden on H1/L1 Visas for $0.6 Billion(not even 10% in comparison ) ....what a pity.... :mad:
This is pure B.S. politics....

[smuggymba]

Total H1Bs sponsored by the dirty 4 Indian companies are 12000 multiplied by $2000, gives 12 million if you add same no of L1 visas its only 24 million not 600 million. Obama requires a calculator .

ROFL....obama needs a calculator

[h1b_forever]

I have heard for short term consulting projects, they are supposed to provide the duration of a project and say, it is for 3 months, h1 gets approved for 3 months

Next project, get a new h1, so, if you add that up, they can collect 600 Mil

[go_guy123]

isnt this $600M is comming off of the 2k hike on h1 50-50 rule?
if so, any one who wants think of getting rid of h1s they should also think of loosing this border security measure.

This h1b money is totally insufficient but most likely it will add to governent deficit...but who cares. Eventually this 2000K will increase in some "piece-meal enforcement only" bill
in future.

[WillIWin?]

I dont agree with the laws passed, but here is the math to come up with the $600 million figure they are quoting.

# of possible H1Bs = 85k (65k + 20k)
Fees (additional) = $2000
Total Fees = $170 million ($2k x 85k)

The fee increase is for 4 years = (2010-2014)

GRAND Total = $680 million ($170 million x 4)

[bhasky25]

The fee increase is only for companies which has more 50% of their employees on H1B visa. So counting 85K visa's for 4 years is not correct.

[Openarms]

Obama playing a safe politics in this time of economics.... against open commerce....I wonder what happens when other countries charge COCA Cola and lot of other companies 20% tax on profit margin.... think about foot print of American companies across the globe... This is not good for America.

[sanju_dba]

Poor guys... they can give away $7.5 Billion to some country as Aid, but cannot secure their own borders without increasing burden on H1/L1 Visas for $0.6 Billion(not even 10% in comparison ) ....what a pity.... :mad:
This is pure B.S. politics....

Thats - "andar pareshani bahar shervani"

[uma001]

What if


India is going to charge
IBM,
Accenture,
EDS,
Microsoft,
Google,
Cisco,
Intel,
Motorola,
Facebook,
Goldman Sachs,
Morgan Stanley,
etc., companies to fund for securing all state borders and states from bomb blasts from terrorists.They do not know how much they want to collect. Still counting , because India had heavy losses because of these blasts.

[dskhabra]

What if


India is going to charge
IBM,
Accenture,
EDS,
Microsoft,
Google,
Cisco,
Intel,
Motorola,
Facebook,
Goldman Sachs,
Morgan Stanley,
etc., companies to fund for securing all state borders and states from bomb blasts from terrorists.They do not know how much they want to collect. Still counting , because India had heavy losses because of these blasts.
I am sure India will do something similar if more than 50% employees of these companies are NON-INDIANS....

[uma001]

I am sure India will do something similar if more than 50% employees of these companies are NON-INDIANS....

Why should India copy them? India will put a different clause

[furiouspride]

I have heard for short term consulting projects, they are supposed to provide the duration of a project and say, it is for 3 months, h1 gets approved for 3 months

Next project, get a new h1, so, if you add that up, they can collect 600 Mil
and the client will most likely go belly up :D

[hiralal]

this is in response to some who say what if India does this and that ...the point is that India will do nothing. In general we have passive leaders and our PM is a great example of that - if it was done against china then immediately there would have retaliation. in some ways it is good if it stops the misuse ...I guess the biggest losers in this are the lawyers - more lawyer shops will close down

[boldm28]

this is in response to some who say what if India does this and that ...the point is that India will do nothing. In general we have passive leaders and our PM is a great example of that - if it was done against china then immediately there would have retaliation. in some ways it is good if it stops the misuse ...I guess the biggest losers in this are the lawyers - more lawyer shops will close down

you got it dude .. just imagine , we are trying to dictate laws in some other country and blame law makers in the US ( senators , congressmen) , but all this things happen in India , we just accept the fact and move on .. so just accept the fact and move on , we cant do anything about it , as far as politicians are concerned in India , they do what they want classic eg is Kalmadi who has been taking bribes from God know when , you guys know rite
ViTESSE ( maruti dealeship) is own by Kalmadi's . I can go on and on but dont want to clog the forums

[Suva]

Why are you taking all the H1s into the calculation? This only applies to companies which has more than 50% H1 employees. So it does not apply to all the companies.

I dont agree with the laws passed, but here is the math to come up with the $600 million figure they are quoting.

# of possible H1Bs = 85k (65k + 20k)
Fees (additional) = $2000
Total Fees = $170 million ($2k x 85k)

The fee increase is for 4 years = (2010-2014)

GRAND Total = $680 million ($170 million x 4)

[eastindia]

Ron says, The USCIS teleconference concerning implementation of PL 111-230 provided the following information:

* The effective date of the new law was August 14, 2010 and all petition submissions postmarked on or after that date are subject to the new tax.
* The new tax only applies to companies that have:
o 50 or more full and part time employees in the US; and
o At least 50% of those employees hold H1B or L status.
* If an employee has an EAD, but is working using an H1B, that employee counts toward the total. If the employee works using his or her EAD, however, the employee does not count.
* The new tax only applies to new H filings (including change of employer filings)
* The new tax DOES NOT apply to extensions or amendments
* The total new tax is $2,000, not the higher amount originally feared
* The CIS confirmed that the additional fee must be paid by the petitioner and not the employee
* Both full and part time employees count toward the 50 employee threshold
* Any L2 employees, working using an EAD, also count toward the total
* The CIS is in the process of developing a new I-129 form to capture information concerning the new fee
* The CSC and VSC are attempting to screen existing cases, with filing postmarks on or after August 14th. For those that are found likely to be subject to the new tax, they will issue RFEs
* DO NOT send checks to the CIS for the additional fee until you receive an RFE.
* New filings by exempt companies should include a signed attestation that they are not subject to the new tax.
* Best practice, use a separate check for the new fee.

[pd052009]

Considering the amount for H1 transfers(Hope the economy improves a lot for easy h1 transfer), the collectable amount will be more than 600M.

[pd052009]

Ron says, The USCIS teleconference concerning implementation of PL 111-230 provided the following information:

* The new tax DOES NOT apply to extensions or amendments


This will help the people like me who are stuck in GC process...