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pappu
09-22-2010, 07:12 PM
Title: Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
Sponsor: Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] (introduced 9/21/2010)

Cosponsors Sen Dorgan, Byron L. [ND] -
Sen Reid, Harry [NV] -
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] -
Introduced in the Senate.

This bill will give companies a two-year holiday from their share of Social Security payroll withholding taxes for each employee they hire to replace a worker at a foreign-based facility. The Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act would bar companies from taking tax credits or deductions for the cost of closing a U.S.-based facility to move the operation overseas.Companies could still take deductions for severance and job placement services for employees who lose their jobs as a result of a U.S. plant closing. Under the legislation, companies that close a U.S.-based business and expand it overseas would no longer be allowed to defer U.S. income taxes on foreign subsidiaries.

Reid has the option to set up a procedural vote next week

smuggymba
09-22-2010, 07:35 PM
Oh My God. These three won't stop, would they.

royus77
09-22-2010, 07:40 PM
This is a good bill for people who are already on H1 and EAD ...what's wrong that in bringing the jobs back home ?

eb3retro
09-22-2010, 07:41 PM
For some reason, I feel that this is just the beginning. Hope I am wrong..

smuggymba
09-22-2010, 07:43 PM
This is a good bill for people who are already on H1 and EAD ...what's wrong that in bringing the jobs back home ?

Don't worry my friend...H1s, L1s, EAD.....they will go after everyone one by one.

spicy_guy
09-22-2010, 08:14 PM
Next thing....H1 program only once in 3 years or only when "needed".....
Cut the number of GCs by half...So that people will go back to their origin when their H1 expires.....
Attach huge price tag to GC... and...

Well, the message is clear...Isn't it?

royus77
09-22-2010, 08:17 PM
As long as greedy corporations like microsoft exist noting will happen to H1B program..its the economy that's it ..once it start moving up h1b will become l1b and the import of cheap labor starts once again .....you guys are just spreading fear nothing else ....

deepimpact
09-22-2010, 08:20 PM
Next thing....H1 program only once in 3 years or only when "needed".....
Cut the number of GCs by half...So that people will go back to their origin when their H1 expires.....
Attach huge price tag to GC... and...

Well, the message is clear...Isn't it?

Well instead of going back after H1 expires, the people can chose to be illegals. Then their Kids will get GC under the DREAM ACT.:D

h1techSlave
09-22-2010, 09:22 PM
Companies like Microsoft are indeed greedy. But Microsoft shareholders like me and many others in this forum are saints.

As long as greedy corporations like microsoft exist noting will happen to H1B program..its the economy that's it ..once it start moving up h1b will become l1b and the import of cheap labor starts once again .....you guys are just spreading fear nothing else ....

gc_peshwa
09-22-2010, 09:59 PM
Pappu
Is there an IV action item defined for defeating this bill? Why has this been posted? Just curios....

vbkris77
09-22-2010, 10:38 PM
Corporations save more than 10K.. It doesn't work..

Average cost of employment in US for high tech is around 90$ per hour and social security
percentage is 6%, So the max is less than 10K per year or less than 0.5 USD per hour.

These companies actually pay far less than 90$ for offshore resources..

Since it really doesn't work, it has high chances of passage into bill :rolleyes: and president will promptly sign it before this session recesses.. :cool:

It will also be passed in an unanimous consent by both parties..

Title: Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act
Sponsor: Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] (introduced 9/21/2010)

Cosponsors Sen Dorgan, Byron L. [ND] -
Sen Reid, Harry [NV] -
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] -
Introduced in the Senate.

This bill will give companies a two-year holiday from their share of Social Security payroll withholding taxes for each employee they hire to replace a worker at a foreign-based facility. The Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act would bar companies from taking tax credits or deductions for the cost of closing a U.S.-based facility to move the operation overseas.Companies could still take deductions for severance and job placement services for employees who lose their jobs as a result of a U.S. plant closing. Under the legislation, companies that close a U.S.-based business and expand it overseas would no longer be allowed to defer U.S. income taxes on foreign subsidiaries.

Reid has the option to set up a procedural vote next week

satyasaich
09-23-2010, 06:29 AM
Well instead of going back after H1 expires, the people can chose to be illegals. Then their Kids will get GC under the DREAM ACT.:D
though hilariously said, you have a point indeed.

Edison99
09-23-2010, 06:57 AM
What a foresight…

Corporations save more than 10K.. It doesn't work..

Average cost of employment in US for high tech is around 90$ per hour and social security
percentage is 6%, So the max is less than 10K per year or less than 0.5 USD per hour.

These companies actually pay far less than 90$ for offshore resources..

Since it really doesn't work, it has high chances of passage into bill :rolleyes: and president will promptly sign it before this session recesses.. :cool:

It will also be passed in an unanimous consent by both parties..

kumar1305
09-23-2010, 08:12 AM
As long as greedy corporations like microsoft exist noting will happen to H1B program..its the economy that's it ..once it start moving up h1b will become l1b and the import of cheap labor starts once again .....you guys are just spreading fear nothing else ....


It’s not India or China who asked for globalization. It was America who wants to sell their products throughout the world.

No matter how many bills these Senators may make they are not going to stop outsourcing.

America didn’t develop because of protectionist policies, it grow because it was a free market.

Rajeev
09-23-2010, 08:33 AM
New jobs pitch targets companies that move jobs offshore - Sep. 22, 2010 (http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/22/news/economy/Senate_Dems_jobs/index.htm)

dummgelauft
09-23-2010, 08:38 AM
As long as greedy corporations like microsoft exist noting will happen to H1B program..its the economy that's it ..once it start moving up h1b will become l1b and the import of cheap labor starts once again .....you guys are just spreading fear nothing else ....

Just wait a couple of yeard for the things to improve a bit, "American Workers" will go right back to getting high on borrowed money, spending money that they don't have...this will all go away. Then, the focus will be..i don't know.....buying "stuff".

Plus, other countries are not sleeping any more. America started the outsourcing model and now, the hitherto underdeveloped economies have expanded their own industrial base and middle class. WHile US protectionism might hurt them in the short run, but they are much better prepared than they were, only a few years ago.

Druecken die daumen!!

eastindia
09-23-2010, 10:58 AM
It’s not India or China who asked for globalization. It was America who wants to sell their products throughout the world.

No matter how many bills these Senators may make they are not going to stop outsourcing.

America didn’t develop because of protectionist policies, it grow because it was a free market.

In today's world it is simply not possible to stop outsourcing. It is also not possible to stop all illegal immigration or send all legal/illegal immigrats out. Anti-immigrants are very few in number and they try to project as if the entire America wants what they want. They will still go and buy a Toyota and buy stuff Made in China from the store :) Ask them if they want double for their grocery every week if we deport all undocumented and their answer will definitely be a NO.

eastindia
09-23-2010, 10:59 AM
This is a good bill for people who are already on H1 and EAD ...what's wrong that in bringing the jobs back home ?

You are an anti-immigrant.

eastindia
09-23-2010, 11:14 AM
As long as greedy corporations like microsoft exist noting will happen to H1B program..its the economy that's it ..once it start moving up h1b will become l1b and the import of cheap labor starts once again .....you guys are just spreading fear nothing else ....

You hate Microsoft because you cannot a job there. Why don't you spend time upgrading your skills and get rid of your hatred for H1B workers.

If you think it is too much for you and you would rather blame Immigrants for your incompetence, then you may want to try apply as a Janitor in Microsoft or Google. Maybe they will hire you. You can then tell all your friends that you work for Microsoft. :D

DudefromBombay
09-23-2010, 01:20 PM
I am eagerly waiting for the Nov Election results. Can't wait to see Democtas losing House and Senate and can't wait to see the Back of "BARRACK"