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Is there a conspiracy, first there was delays in the processing of the EADs, now there is delay in the production of the EAD cards...
Are there more RFEs happening too?
My EAD renewal took almost 90 days to get approved, and my employer was ready to let me go if I did not get the approval before my EAD expired. Just made it with 2 days to spare.
eastindia
11-12-2010, 09:49 AM
If you were a donor member you could have asked IV to help you. They helped people with EAD delays by talking to USCIS.
If you were a donor member you could have asked IV to help you. They helped people with EAD delays by talking to USCIS.
If you read my post, I did say I got mine in time. I do appreciate what IV does.
I donate when I can, thanks for letting me know that I have to donate.
hari_babu22
11-12-2010, 12:56 PM
This is absurd, IV only helps when you pay, is it a law firm or what?
Like if you are are a donor then you can see certain posts other wise you can not see them, it is like luring peopled and earn money?
Don't take my criticism in a wrong manner, donations should be volunteer can not be forced. Blocking posts for certain people is logical, but if a particular the post is not met for non donors then please do not show the link for them at all, showing the link and when you click them to see the responses then you are not allowed as you are not a donor, is not a proper way, which gives a wrong impression to IV.
I hope IV will take this in a positive way..
sk.aggarwal
11-12-2010, 01:01 PM
Completely agreee with hari_baby22. Couple of days back I posted that immigration voice could get a lot more donations if they publish there earnings/expenses report online and make everything transparent. Lot of people including myself, do not contribute because they dont know how funds are getting used. My post was deleted by administrator and I got following message -->
Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
We don't think you are for real. We believe you are an agent of a for profit immigration website.
***************
This time my user account itself might get deleted....
tonyHK12
11-12-2010, 01:28 PM
Completely agreee with hari_baby22. Couple of days back I posted that immigration voice could get a lot more donations if they publish there earnings/expenses report online and make everything transparent. Lot of people including myself, do not contribute because they dont know how funds are getting used. My post was deleted by administrator and I got following message -->
Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
We don't think you are for real. We believe you are an agent of a for profit immigration website.
***************
This time my user account itself might get deleted....
Guys I had posted this yesterday IV is a non-profit. Check the video below - there is nothing to hide:
Immigration Voice funds disclosure on Yahoo! Video (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/234998/1863489)
The fact that IV is helping Donors is because all its activities are only possible because of Donors, and we are still short of funding. If this was for all for free, then no campaign could be acheived.
And believe it or not , we get a lot of spam and rogue users visiting IV.
BTW I am not in IV management
We need you and a lot more to join. I can't believe you cannot trust IV a non-profit organization with even $25
hari_babu22
11-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Guys I had posted this yesterday IV is a non-profit. Check the video below - there is nothing to hide:
Immigration Voice funds disclosure on Yahoo! Video (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/234998/1863489)
The fact that IV is helping Donors is because all its activities are only possible because of Donors, and we are still short of funding. If this was for all for free, then no campaign could be acheived.
And believe it or not , we get a lot of spam and rogue users visiting IV.
BTW I am not in IV management
We need you and a lot more to join. I can't believe you cannot trust IV a non-profit organization with even $25
I know Immigration voice is not for profit organization and it is doing a great job.
My intention is not to belittle IV, my intention is just to express my opinion as a user, most of the problem will be solved if the links are not shown to non members if they are not allowed to see the content.
I just saw your post in YouTube, it is very informative.
sk.aggarwal
11-12-2010, 01:48 PM
Thanks for sharing the link, I will go through this.
It is not about money. I have absolutely no problem giving even 100$s per month for the cause if I know how my hard earned money is being spend. Actions like deleting threads, banning users just for asking reports, makes people uncomfortable. Have you seen the financial report at Eb3 Chinese Financial Report - ›‰类Œš移‘•‹信‰˜Ÿ‡‘ (http://www.eb3chinese.org/5.html).
BTW, Hari if IV doesn't show you the links to donar forum, how will you know what you are missing ...
just my 2 cents.
tonyHK12
11-12-2010, 01:57 PM
Thanks for sharing the link, I will go through this.
It is not about money. I have absolutely no problem giving even 100$s per month for the cause if I know how my hard earned money is being spend. Actions like deleting threads, banning users just for asking reports, makes people uncomfortable. Have you seen the financial report at Eb3 Chinese Financial Report - ›‰类Œš移‘•‹信‰˜Ÿ‡‘ (http://www.eb3chinese.org/5.html).
BTW, Hari if IV doesn't show you the links to donar forum, how will you know what you are missing ...
just my 2 cents.
I am the same as you. I would rather trust IV than an Immigration lawyer, and we don't have any other viable option. Every member here is a high skilled immigrant and there is no public Company or business doing this.
I saw the website, they are probably the only ones giving details , and if I recall they haven't achieved anything until now (maybe co-related?)
IV has details for all previous years and in the video they have given justification. Most other Advocacy groups are run by lawyers not immigrants. None of them give a day-today expense report. I have also learnt the hard way what the priorities of immigration attorneys are.
many of them have spoken in favor of Illegal amnesty as it would increase their business while almost ignoring us.
sandy_anand
11-12-2010, 02:33 PM
I know Immigration voice is not for profit organization and it is doing a great job.
My intention is not to belittle IV, my intention is just to express my opinion as a user, most of the problem will be solved if the links are not shown to non members if they are not allowed to see the content.
I just saw your post in YouTube, it is very informative.
All the time that IV volunteers put in and the lobbying efforts don't come free. There is a cost associated with it. As tonyHK12, I'd rather trust IV and risk $25 a month than leave everything up to chance and hope. Just my 2 cents.
sandy_anand
11-12-2010, 02:34 PM
I know Immigration voice is not for profit organization and it is doing a great job.
My intention is not to belittle IV, my intention is just to express my opinion as a user, most of the problem will be solved if the links are not shown to non members if they are not allowed to see the content.
I just saw your post in YouTube, it is very informative.
All the time and effort that IV volunteers put in and the lobbying efforts don't come free. There is a cost associated with it. As tonyHK12, I'd rather trust IV and risk $25 a month than leave everything up to chance and hope. Just my 2 cents.
Is there a conspiracy, first there was delays in the processing of the EADs, now there is delay in the production of the EAD cards...
Are there more RFEs happening too?
My EAD renewal took almost 90 days to get approved, and my employer was ready to let me go if I did not get the approval before my EAD expired. Just made it with 2 days to spare.
Why every discussion has to end with donate - why donate? What IV has done so far? Where the money goes? EB2 vs EB3... etc. Stop hijacking threads.
By the way, the title of this thread is of no good. Don't give such title to generate clicks, your post is not a media news site to give misleading titles to generate clicks. "Whats happening with EAD delays" would have been more appropriate.
tonyHK12
11-12-2010, 03:14 PM
Why every discussion has to end with donate - why donate? What IV has done so far? Where the money goes? EB2 vs EB3... etc. Stop hijacking threads.
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I wonder if this is one of the rogue users from another forum. this is tiring to post everyday, but here are IVs acheivements:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum2-retrogression-priority-dates-and-visa-bulletins/1707445-dec-visa-bulletin.html#post2100101
well the so called hijacking - The very fact this website is even up is because of donors.
Also I contribute $100 a month and don't get any money from IV. We are all volunteers.
We are all immigrants working on a campaign.
I see that the ones who don't want to do any work start complaining and blame every one else who is contributing. And you want to attack IV and donors!
Also see the yahoo video posted above.
Of course no one is forcing you to donate, you can just go around complaining, accusing and attacking everyone for the next 10 years instead.
kishorek111
11-12-2010, 04:22 PM
asking for donations is nothing wrong. After all Immigration voice is for everyone's benefit.
At the same time, keeping everything transparent is IV's duty. IV should not wait for someone to ask these details...
tonyHK12
11-12-2010, 05:46 PM
asking for donations is nothing wrong. After all Immigration voice is for everyone's benefit.
At the same time, keeping everything transparent is IV's duty. IV should not wait for someone to ask these details...
Yes true, and whatever $100 I'm donating is going to benefit Ivar more than me since he's current.
It looks like no one is watching the IV video posted above. The summary is:
1. IV is a non-profit, and these orgs have very strict tax laws.
2. If funds are misused, people can be put in jail and deported.
3. Complete disclosure of strategy, investments will hinder IVs ability to campaign as anti-immigrants and our opponents are looking at our strategy to quash it. This is especially true with lobbying.
4. Previous years annual reports are available.
Facebook or Google are not going to publish their daily funds usage report or they will be out of business in 1 month
The reason I'm asking for donations is - Without thousands of members donating, we cannot successfully lobby for Green card laws for us.
Its not directly going to benefit me, I'm still a long way off.
The person in the video is not me.
GCHope2011
11-14-2010, 09:44 PM
Why every discussion has to end with donate - why donate? What IV has done so far? Where the money goes? EB2 vs EB3... etc. Stop hijacking threads.
By the way, the title of this thread is of no good. Don't give such title to generate clicks, your post is not a media news site to give misleading titles to generate clicks. "Whats happening with EAD delays" would have been more appropriate.
Every discussion gravitates towards donation because at the end of the day, the reality is that there is a need to mobilize funds, to take our game to the next level.
At the same time, there is a whole bunch of immigrants waiting in the queue for 5,7,10 years, passively, just talking, who could have easily contributed $25 per month to create a momentum for us.
All this complaining about transparency (knowing or not knowing that not-for-profit organizations need to follow very strict accounting and disclosure rules), is just not productive. I would rather put my trust in a bunch of fellow immigrants who are trying to help us all collectively.
Even if nothing comes out of it, I would have tried to push my luck through this group, rather than sitting and waiting for things to change on their own.
Disclaimer: I am not a part of the core or any peripheral group of IV. I am just like everyone else, but have decided to try my bit by contributing.
I wonder if this is one of the rogue users from another forum. this is tiring to post everyday, but here are IVs acheivements:
Of course no one is forcing you to donate, you can just go around complaining, accusing and attacking everyone for the next 10 years instead.
Dude, I have also donated to IV but i am not sure why that "donor" doesn't come next to my name. I wish everyone donates atleast $25 to support IV and for you "tonyHK12" stopping being a Jerk and accusing people as being attackers (when you don't know about anyone), if you need to encourage people to donate start a new thread and direct people to the new thread.
pappu
11-15-2010, 08:20 AM
Dude, I have also donated to IV but i am not sure why that "donor" doesn't come next to my name. I wish everyone donates atleast $25 to support IV and for you "tonyHK12" stopping being a Jerk and accusing people as being attackers (when you don't know about anyone), if you need to encourage people to donate start a new thread and direct people to the new thread.
We checked the records and find that since September 2006 (date of your joining) contribution has been in April 2009 for $25 as a one time contribution. After that there have been no contribution. Due to a one time $25, you had donor status for a month. We had given you donor status and access for more than a month until 19 July 2009 for you to renew your subscription. If you have contributed recently, contact us with the details.
We checked the records and find that since September 2006 (date of your joining) contribution has been in April 2009 for $25 as a one time contribution. After that there have been no contribution. Due to a one time $25, you had donor status for a month. We had given you donor status and access for more than a month until 19 July 2009 for you to renew your subscription. If you have contributed recently, contact us with the details.
I had issues setting up recurring payments. I did setup one just now and let me know if it is drawing funds correctly.
ghost
11-15-2010, 11:01 AM
I had issues setting up recurring payments. I did setup one just now and let me know if it is drawing funds correctly.
Thanks!
As frustrating as it sounds for non-donors to be pushed to become donors, please trust the IV leadership and trust the grass-roots nature of IV...it's no gimmick that we have such a large group of educated immigrants coalescing towards a common goal.
mattresscoil
11-15-2010, 11:38 AM
Everyone relax please.
People who can afford to donate, please go ahead and donate.
People who cannot afford to donate, dont worry and donate when you can.
People have received help in someway or the other by being a part of IV.
Let us not worry about the transparency. Lets appreciate what IV is already doing.
I never donated but got help from people on the forum. It is wrong to say that only donors get help.
Let us do the best we can and stop there!!
tonyHK12
11-15-2010, 01:30 PM
Dude, I have also donated to IV but i am not sure why that "donor" doesn't come next to my name. I wish everyone donates atleast $25 to support IV and for you "tonyHK12" stopping being a Jerk and accusing people as being attackers (when you don't know about anyone), if you need to encourage people to donate start a new thread and direct people to the new thread.
Well its good you decided to join as a Donor. You will understand if I am obligated to call you a "Jerk" as well, since you started it. Lets instead behave like mature adults and not fight among ourselves.
People who can afford to donate, please go ahead and donate.
People who cannot afford to donate, dont worry and donate when you can.
Yes agreed. most of us do earn just an average salary, including myself.
GCHope2011
11-15-2010, 10:35 PM
I had issues setting up recurring payments. I did setup one just now and let me know if it is drawing funds correctly.
ivar - welcome to the gang!!
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