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immig4me
11-15-2010, 09:52 AM
Recently some of the IV members went on a radio show and here are my thoughts on it:
I completely agree with the some of the points mentioned in the show.
1. Our abilities, knowledge and skills should be the determining factor in the employment based green cards and not the country that we were born in....
2. Many of us are in the situation where we are unable to attend to aging parents, sibling weddings because we are in a limbo with our GCs. I empathize with the speaker and his situation with his father..
These things have to be tackled and we must gather the support from immigrant communities to get the lawmakers to notice us and do the right thing for us.
BTW, is there a recording of the show? If so, please upload it or provide the link for those of who did not get a chance to tune in.... If the participants of the show could share their experiences, it would encourage others (us) too....
I hope it reached a huge audience of immigrants.
Did other IV members tune in? If so, how do you think it went?
It was indeed an excellent experience being on the radio and speaking your heart out. It felt as if venting out a big frustration. There must be many more people who may/are/will be stuck in a sticky situation if we are not able to apply for I-485 (AOS) even after having approved I-140 for many years.
I will personally urge all visitors to this website and all other members to awaken themselves, stand up and DEMAND your rights.
HELP IMMIGRATION VOICE TO HELP YOU, spread the word around. You never know there may be a friend, colleague or even a foe whom you can help. They will bless you to make wonders happen.
Good Luck guys, keep talking on radio, TV any form of media.
sorcerer666
11-15-2010, 03:11 PM
It was indeed an excellent experience being on the radio and speaking your heart out. It felt as if venting out a big frustration. There must be many more people who may/are/will be stuck in a sticky situation if we are not able to apply for I-485 (AOS) even after having approved I-140 for many years.
I will personally urge all visitors to this website and all other members to awaken themselves, stand up and DEMAND your rights.
HELP IMMIGRATION VOICE TO HELP YOU, spread the word around. You never know there may be a friend, colleague or even a foe whom you can help. They will bless you to make wonders happen.
Good Luck guys, keep talking on radio, TV any form of media.
I agree to almost everything you have said here, but respectfully disagree to "I will personally urge all visitors to this website and all other members to awaken themselves, stand up and DEMAND your rights"
"we" don't have the right to Immigration or citizenship ..., its their country and their rules, so their prerogative to implement it howsoever they want it. Dont like it, leave it!
I agree to almost everything you have said here, but respectfully disagree to "I will personally urge all visitors to this website and all other members to awaken themselves, stand up and DEMAND your rights"
"we" don't have the right to Immigration or citizenship ..., its their country and their rules, so their prerogative to implement it howsoever they want it. Dont like it, leave it!
It's one's own opinion for DEMANDING the rights. Applying for permanent residency & waiting for 8 years is in itself a statement. They are making the rules tougher and going slow so that applicants get fed up and leave the country, they have nothing to loose, but the applicants loose everything, SS taxes, medicare, kid's future, home, the prime time of your career, you name it.
amitjoey
11-15-2010, 04:02 PM
I agree to almost everything you have said here, but respectfully disagree to "I will personally urge all visitors to this website and all other members to awaken themselves, stand up and DEMAND your rights"
"we" don't have the right to Immigration or citizenship ..., its their country and their rules, so their prerogative to implement it howsoever they want it. Dont like it, leave it!
Yes. Immigration is not a right and only a privilege. But remember- Immigration laws need to be fair and there should be a transparent, fair process to obtain a greencard in a timebound, fair manner.
What we should stand up for and DEMAND is for USCIS and the government to give us a transparent fair process.
Paying taxes, filing all forms and exorbitant fees only to find out that USCIS wastes visas is unacceptable.
What is unacceptable is that legal-lawabiding immigrants cannot be held indefinately in a limbo-
The backlogs were not created because of immigrants, they were created because USCIS (Formerly INS) Failed to adjudicate the cases in time whereby visas allocated were lost (More true in the middle years of the last decade). The queque keeps getting longer.
diptam
11-15-2010, 04:07 PM
From time to time H visa volume were bumped up to 200k but remember the "per country ration" was never bumped up. They could have said that H is just temporary and i'm sure lot of thoughful folks wont have come or planned to settle but they kept the window open (with H as Dual-intent etc...) so they could lick the best talent but then could be thrown away .... I mean i'm not upset (everybody has right to be more intelligent) but it was a clever and dirty whoever crafted the H-story in 1990 ... but we get it eventually :D
It's one's own opinion for DEMANDING the rights. Applying for permanent residency & waiting for 8 years is in itself a statement. They are making the rules tougher and going slow so that applicants get fed up and leave the country, they have nothing to loose, but the applicants loose everything, SS taxes, medicare, kid's future, home, the prime time of your career, you name it.
tonyHK12
11-15-2010, 04:18 PM
From time to time H visa volume were bumped up to 200k but remember the "per country ration" was never bumped up. They could have said that H is just temporary and i'm sure lot of thoughful folks wont have come or planned to settle but they kept the window open (with H as Dual-intent etc...) so they could lick the best talent but then could be thrown away .... I mean i'm not upset (everybody has right to be more intelligent) but it was a clever and dirty whoever crafted the H-story in 1990 ... but we get it eventually :D
Hmmm, sounds a lot like bait and Switch
diptam
11-15-2010, 04:51 PM
hey,
I didn't want to go that far :) or even throw conspiracy theory and I'm not sure whether the fellow framing the H laws had that dirty minds... he/she might have done that just like that 20+ yrs back and it resulted in misfortune for others.
Anyway , let me take a different perspective:
Its a matter of fact that lot of fellows came in this country with H and got GC in supersonic speed in the early days - some were not qualified enough... It was a porous system. But at the end of the day there are some fellows who are somewhat unlucky and the system is not FAIR anough to take care of everyone equally irrespective of their luck.The system should have been TOUGH enough to filter junks and FAIR enough to take care of genuine unlucky ones - that's how AMERICA's systems are typically built.
But as Greg Siskind mentioned in some his blogs that it was lost Decade on Immigration , nothing achieved because there were higher priorities than just raw immigration after 2001
Hmmm, sounds a lot like bait and Switch
desi3933
11-15-2010, 10:10 PM
From time to time H visa volume were bumped up to 200k but remember the "per country ration" was never bumped up. They could have said that H is just temporary and i'm sure lot of thoughful folks wont have come or planned to settle but they kept the window open (with H as Dual-intent etc...) so they could lick the best talent but then could be thrown away .... I mean i'm not upset (everybody has right to be more intelligent) but it was a clever and dirty whoever crafted the H-story in 1990 ... but we get it eventually :D
Dual-intent does not mean path to green card. It simply means that one can get H-1B even with immigrant intent.
Employment based green card is not limited to H1 visa classification alone.
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tonyHK12
11-16-2010, 08:36 AM
Anyway , let me take a different perspective:
Its a matter of fact that lot of fellows came in this country with H and got GC in supersonic speed in the early days - some were not qualified enough... It was a porous system.
...
But as Greg Siskind mentioned in some his blogs that it was lost Decade on Immigration , nothing achieved because there were higher priorities than just raw immigration after 2001
Yes true, there are higher priorities now too, like jobs, economy.
The system is a bit inhumane, but we have to make people understand that the "official" system thinks - after spending 5-10 years in a foreign country, buying a house, family, settling down, people should expect to relocate back to their home country and start over from scratch in settling there. This is attractive for nomads.
Well this also involves a loss of money for most, in all the changes, and even directly through social security, medicare. lets see I have contributed about 40K to SS so far. Enough down payment for a house or two. It probably paid out 3 american seniors for a year.
immig4me
11-16-2010, 12:04 PM
I think we need to pull back on to the right track, this thread was to focus on the radio show and its probable influence on the community going forward.
vbhup2
11-16-2010, 12:24 PM
The radio show was great. A commendable job by all those who were actively involved. I had about 5-6 of my friends (impacted by the problem but unaware of IV) from different parts of the country successfully call in and listen to to the entire radio show and they appreciated IV and it's initiatives. The next step is to get them registered here and and be actively involved.
About the show, I don't know if it was due to lack of time or maybe it was designed that way, the host of the show did not encourage people to call-in or remind the listeners of the call-in no. while the show was going on (It was done only once at the start). I think that would've helped. Great initiative nevertheless.
needhelp!
11-16-2010, 01:35 PM
Thanks to those of you who went and talked for all of us.
Openarms
11-16-2010, 02:19 PM
What is the station and program .. any web links ??
What is the station and program .. any web links ??
You can listen to it online on Radio Dil best bollywood hindi music radio station (http://www.radiodil.com). Or from your phone by calling 400-418-5000.
G o o d E v e n i n g GC !!!!!!!
diptam
11-23-2010, 11:01 AM
Trace the origin of employment based GC applicants and you will find that % majority did have trace of H in their history ... I know some lucky L guys also directly got into EB category but they are minimal - the MNC's typically bring the L folks to work,learn and take the Job away from United States to cheaper offshore destinations after few years. Some goes away , some stayback - its upto the individual , no one can force.
Personally I've a mix of L,H in my past but my EB journey started after I converted to a H and stayed back.
Dual-intent does not mean path to green card. It simply means that one can get H-1B even with immigrant intent.
Employment based green card is not limited to H1 visa classification alone.
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immig4me
12-10-2010, 11:42 AM
BTW, is there a recording of the radio show? I have tried to get many of my colleagues and friends to be a little more vested in our GC process - and this recording may help in convincing a few who are on the fence.
BTW, is there a recording of the radio show? I have tried to get many of my colleagues and friends to be a little more vested in our GC process - and this recording may help in convincing a few who are on the fence.
The talk-show that was held on 12 Nov 2010 is now uploaded on Youtube. The link is provided below. This was our first experience on radio; hope everybody appreciates the effort. Also, I would encourage all constructive feedbacks.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ImmigrationVoiceOrg?feature=mhum#p/u/3/Qw6bcTfDRTc
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