EB2-EB3 Predictions (Rather Calculations II)

[TeddyKoochu]

Qucik update: Just received my cards in the mail. No email, no text about CPO after the decision email. There were two LUDs on the application though.
Oct 14: decision email
Oct 18: LUD. decision text changed date to Oct 18
Oct 20: LUD and Cards are in the mailbox today.

Although decision email said ADIT processing etc I did not receive any FP notice.

Good luck to you all. I will be back tomorrow to call the reps on 3012..:D

Many congratulations to you and your family. Thanks for sharing the good news with all of us. Have a great green life ahead. Friends it looks like all preadjudicated cases before 15th July 2007 will see approvals this month itself.

[PrinceVA]

not sure for PWMBs. I hv FP next month. and looking at the no of visas per yr, it seems we will get a chance of having a GC in hand next yr only.

btw, congrats to those who got current and got GC in hand.

Many congratulations to you and your family. Thanks for sharing the good news with all of us. Have a great green life ahead. Friends it looks like all preadjudicated cases before 15th July 2007 will see approvals this month itself.

[bayarea07]

Mine is May 2007 date and no update on my case yet even after raising a service request.
Went ahead and contacted my local senator yesterday so i do not believe everyone with priority date before July 2007 will get that this month.

Many congratulations to you and your family. Thanks for sharing the good news with all of us. Have a great green life ahead. Friends it looks like all preadjudicated cases before 15th July 2007 will see approvals this month itself.

[bayarea07]

Finally got greened yesterday after a long wait for 4 years.
Thanks all for all your support and knowledge for the past 4 years.


Mine is May 2007 date and no update on my case yet even after raising a service request.
Went ahead and contacted my local senator yesterday so i do not believe everyone with priority date before July 2007 will get that this month.

[TeddyKoochu]

Finally got greened yesterday after a long wait for 4 years.
Thanks all for all your support and knowledge for the past 4 years.

Thanks for posting and many congratulations. Friends the demand data for the Nov bulletin kind of indicates that everyone who is preadjudicated and has a PD prior to 15th Jul should get approved. 5-6K numbers which is virtually India and China's allocation will be consumed in October itself.

[TeddyKoochu]

Does anyone know exactly in whose name the checue for I485 filing needs to be made is it USCIS, INS or DHS. I read couple of places and there is different information everywhere.

[larun]

Hi Teddy
Does it mean the dates could retrogress after the next movement.

Thanks!

Here is a chart for all, this is just out of my gut feel, but next movement should be the final one for the year.

1 Dec 2007 - 100%
1 JAN 2008 - 60-75% (Likely)
1 FEB 2008 - 20-30%
1 MAR - 10%

[dkshitij]

Does anyone know exactly in whose name the checue for I485 filing needs to be made is it USCIS, INS or DHS. I read couple of places and there is different information everywhere.

Read Page 8 of http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-485instr.pdf

You may submit one check or money order for both the application and biometric fees

Make the check or money order payable to U.S. Department of Homeland Security

You do not make a check to USCIS!

[hbk]

Does anyone know exactly in whose name the checue for I485 filing needs to be made is it USCIS, INS or DHS. I read couple of places and there is different information everywhere.

Hi Teddy,

My attorney asked me to make check
payable to "USCIS". I asked same that do we
Need to make check payable to "US department
Of homeland security" ?

Attorney said "USCIS" is fine so I did make
Check payable to "USCIS".

Regards.

[Oct007]

USCIS - Paying Immigration Fees (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3850a99ba78af110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD)

But I think they accept USCIS and do take your monies. check this old thread

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum6-non-immigrant-visas/17757-opt-application-f-1-slight-misspelling-of-uscis-on-340-check.html

[jindhal]

Does anyone know exactly in whose name the checue for I485 filing needs to be made is it USCIS, INS or DHS. I read couple of places and there is different information everywhere.

Use the following guidelines when you prepare your check or other financial institution located in the United States and must be payable in U.S. currency; and

1. The check or the money order must be drawn on a bank or other financial institution located in the United States and must be payable in U.S. currency; and

2. Make the check or money order payable to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, unless:

A. If you live in Guam, make it payable to Treasurer of Guam.

B. If you live in the U.S. Virgin Islands, make it payable to Commissioner of Finance of the Virgin Islands.

NOTE: Effective July 30, 2007, if you file your Form I-485, no additional fee is required to also file an application for employment authorization on Form-I-765, Application for Employment Document, and/or advance parole on Form I-131, Application for Travel Document. You may file these forms together. If you choose to file Form I-765 and/or Form I-131 separately after the effective date, you must also submit a copy of your form I-797C, Notice of Action, receipt as evidence of the filing of Form - I-485.

NOTE: Please spell out U.S. Department of Homeland Security; do not use the initials like "USDHS" or "DHS".

[TeddyKoochu]

dkshitij, hbk, jindhal, oct07, Guys thanks to all of you, I just made the checks in favour of Department Of Homeland security, destroyed the checks made in favour of USCIS. Greatly appreciate all your responses.

[mk26]

I have sent check in favor of Department of Homeland Security and it was cashed this month.

[ananyaganguly]

Teddy ,
What does this mean for the next bulletin ,if you can make me understand what to expect?
Thanks
ananya

[ananyaganguly]

Thanks for posting and many congratulations. Friends the demand data for the Nov bulletin kind of indicates that everyone who is preadjudicated and has a PD prior to 15th Jul should get approved. 5-6K numbers which is virtually India and China's allocation will be consumed in October itself.

Teddy ,
what does this mean for the next bulletin ,please help me understand what to expect?
Thanks
ananya

[TeddyKoochu]

A friend here is a brief snapshot of the current situation. The projection remains unaltered. Everyone in 2007 will definitely get a chance at 485 filing, Q1 2008 folks are borderline. The movement most likely will happen in the next bulletin itself. Then they can retrogress the date or keep it there with no approvals, but Jul 15th seems to be a very stable point, dates won't go before that point.

- Everyone preadjudicated is getting approved. This means 5.6K the I/C cap is consumed.
- This year SOFAD may range from 20-25K it will be likely lesser than last year.
- Porting approvals and EB2 ROW and EB1 are also coming in steadily.

[ananyaganguly]

A friend here is a brief snapshot of the current situation. The projection remains unaltered. Everyone in 2007 will definitely get a chance at 485 filing, Q1 2008 folks are borderline. The movement most likely will happen in the next bulletin itself. Then they can retrogress the date or keep it there with no approvals, but Jul 15th seems to be a very stable point, dates won't go before that point.

- Everyone preadjudicated is getting approved. This means 5.6K the I/C cap is consumed.
- This year SOFAD may range from 20-25K it will be likely lesser than last year.
- Porting approvals and EB2 ROW and EB1 are also coming in steadily.


Thanks Teddy ,
For your Prompt reply ,I am anxiously waiting for the next bulletin as I have stated my situation before,so got puzzled. You are an asset to this forum ,all this good work will surely pay off.
Regards
Ananya

[hbk]

A friend here is a brief snapshot of the current situation. The projection remains unaltered. Everyone in 2007 will definitely get a chance at 485 filing, Q1 2008 folks are borderline. The movement most likely will happen in the next bulletin itself. Then they can retrogress the date or keep it there with no approvals, but Jul 15th seems to be a very stable point, dates won't go before that point.

- Everyone preadjudicated is getting approved. This means 5.6K the I/C cap is consumed.
- This year SOFAD may range from 20-25K it will be likely lesser than last year.
- Porting approvals and EB2 ROW and EB1 are also coming in steadily.

Tedyy Thanks a lot as always.
What are the chances of 485 approval for the people
With PD before Oct-2007 in this fiscal year ?

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

[TeddyKoochu]

Tedyy Thanks a lot as always.
What are the chances of 485 approval for the people
With PD before Oct-2007 in this fiscal year ?

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

I will maintain my old prediction for now, everyone till end of Oct 2007 will get approved. When exactly the approvals will happen depend on how many numbers are allocated by USCIS / DOS. Most likely approvals will take 6 months (Start of Q4) however if USCIS / DOS continue to allocate numbers freely or there is quarterly spillover the approvals can even come in 2-3 months.

[bayarea07]

Though I got approved last week for my GC but would like to thank Teddy and bunch of other folks who did close to accurate calculations and help keep folks hope alive without which wait seems very longer.
Thanks Again Teddy.

[manchala]

All who are waiting for GC or waitin to apply 485 - hear are action items for this week. Please do it asap.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/2524933-hr-3012-action-items-for-the-week-of-oct-24-a.html

[kaarmaa]

I will maintain my old prediction for now, everyone till end of Oct 2007 will get approved. When exactly the approvals will happen depend on how many numbers are allocated by USCIS / DOS. Most likely approvals will take 6 months (Start of Q4) however if USCIS / DOS continue to allocate numbers freely or there is quarterly spillover the approvals can even come in 2-3 months.

Teddy,

based on your estimate, when do you think July-2008'ers can file for 485?

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,

based on your estimate, when do you think July-2008'ers can file for 485?

It will happen next year, this year the line will be drawn up somewhere early in Q1 2008, I believe all 2007 folks will be able to file this year. Good luck to all Q1 2008 folks this zone is borderline any further movement may entirely be the agencies discretion but numerically looks very less likely.

[krishmunn]

Teddy,

based on your estimate, when do you think July-2008'ers can file for 485?

I believe we should be able to file sometime between October to December 2012

[TeddyKoochu]

I believe we should be able to file sometime between October to December 2012

Friends the model of movement followed thus far resembles the FB model which is take demand in the first 3 months and retro. So in theory the next bulletin should be the last intake, the dates cannot be sustained at the current levels for long. Likewise the next iteration will come in Oct - Dec 2012 as Krish has commented. Let’s all hope for the best for the Dec bulletin.

[mars]

Hi,

I am not sure where this is the proper thread to post this Question. Sorry if this is not relevant to this thread.

How much time does it take to get the Parole Document and EAD after the priority date becomes current.

I checked the processing times on USCIS Site and it shows 3 months. I guess that's the worst case scenario.

Thanks

[dexter]

Hi Teddy,

Sincere thanks for sharing your insight on this forum. When do you think someone with 2009 Jan PD would be able to file for I485?


Thanks,
Dexter

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi Teddy,

Sincere thanks for sharing your insight on this forum. When do you think someone with 2009 Jan PD would be able to file for I485?


Thanks,
Dexter

There are way too many unknowns however if the present trend continues then Oct 2013 (Very optimistic - 10%), Oct 2014 (Realistic - 80%) & Oct 2015 (Worst case - 10%)

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi,

I am not sure where this is the proper thread to post this Question. Sorry if this is not relevant to this thread.

How much time does it take to get the Parole Document and EAD after the priority date becomes current.

I checked the processing times on USCIS Site and it shows 3 months. I guess that's the worst case scenario.

Thanks

EAD and AP issuance have a SLA of 3 months; most people should get it in this timeframe.

[harrydr]

Unlike the last few years, the USCIS is applying the quarterly spillover this time. This is the only reason why the dates are moving and will eventually retrogress/halt from moving any more. The questions to answer are:

1. Does this mean the 2500 I/C quota for 2012 is already exhausted (since we saw approvals from applicants with Jun-07 dates)?

2. Will the dates now only move during the last three months of the 2012 fiscal year?

3. The SOFAD will be much less in the end (last quarter of 2012) since the quarterly spillover has taken effect for this year?

4. How will the dates mover forward provided the HR3012 passes?

[dexter]

There are way too many unknowns however if the present trend continues then Oct 2013 (Very optimistic - 10%), Oct 2014 (Realistic - 80%) & Oct 2015 (Worst case - 10%)

Thanks for replying. One more followup question - Does your estimation take HR3012 into account.

Thanks Buddy.. if you are in/visit SFO let me know, Drinks and Dinner on me.

[hbk]

dkshitij, hbk, jindhal, oct07, Guys thanks to all of you, I just made the checks in favour of Department Of Homeland security, destroyed the checks made in favour of USCIS. Greatly appreciate all your responses.

Hello,

If anyone can answer below my question would be great help.

I am the primary applicant NOT my wife.

On form I-485 of my wife page 2 ==> part 3 ==> section B
We provided my information like last name, first name,DOB,country of birth & relationship as a HUSBAND.
Now question is what is the correct answer to the question "Applying with you ?" Yes or No on my wife's I-485 form ?

On my I-485 form answer to this question "Applying with you ?" is Yes. So got confused. So what is the correct answer of this question on my
wife's I-485 form ? Yes or No ? As I mentioned above I am the primary applicant.

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

[divienlotus]

Thanks Teddy for all the analysis! I have been following your posts quietly for more than a year now. I know lot of people ask you questions on their own PD becoming current and I tried not to ever ask about my own PD. However, since the dates are moving ahead, which is a welcome surprise, can you please take a moment of your time to give me your estimate of my PD of June 2008 becoming current? Thanks much for your time!

[hbk]

Hello,

If anyone can answer below my question would be great help.

I am the primary applicant NOT my wife.

On form I-485 of my wife page 2 ==> part 3 ==> section B
We provided my information like last name, first name,DOB,country of birth & relationship as a HUSBAND.
Now question is what is the correct answer to the question "Applying with you ?" Yes or No on my wife's I-485 form ?

On my I-485 form answer to this question "Applying with you ?" is Yes. So got confused. So what is the correct answer of this question on my
wife's I-485 form ? Yes or No ? As I mentioned above I am the primary applicant.

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

Anyone ?
Please respond.

Thanks in advance.

Regards.

[TeddyKoochu]

Anyone ?
Please respond.

Thanks in advance.

Regards.

AFAIK Applying with you should be yes on both forms (I haven’t received them yet for signature). In my case the lawyer is filling up the forms but for this question on the template we indicated yes for both me and my wife.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks for replying. One more followup question - Does your estimation take HR3012 into account.

Thanks Buddy.. if you are in/visit SFO let me know, Drinks and Dinner on me.

Thanks for your gracious offer, the current projections do not account for HR3012, if the bill passed then you can have GC in 1-1.5 years.

[TeddyKoochu]

Unlike the last few years, the USCIS is applying the quarterly spillover this time. This is the only reason why the dates are moving and will eventually retrogress/halt from moving any more. The questions to answer are:

1. Does this mean the 2500 I/C quota for 2012 is already exhausted (since we saw approvals from applicants with Jun-07 dates)?

2. Will the dates now only move during the last three months of the 2012 fiscal year?

3. The SOFAD will be much less in the end (last quarter of 2012) since the quarterly spillover has taken effect for this year?

4. How will the dates mover forward provided the HR3012 passes?

These are good points. 6K of this years cap has already been burnt out for the Apr15 - Jul 15 approvals this is virtually the EB2 I/C allocation.

The dates moving will be a function of how numbers are allocated and how much intake they need. Some of the trends for this year are not as favorable as last year so SOFAD may reduce from the 30K level to 20-25K. However let’s hope demand intake happens sooner so that it’s more. If HR3012 were to pass then everyone in 2008 will also get their GC this year itself and EB3 will also hit 2004.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks Teddy for all the analysis! I have been following your posts quietly for more than a year now. I know lot of people ask you questions on their own PD becoming current and I tried not to ever ask about my own PD. However, since the dates are moving ahead, which is a welcome surprise, can you please take a moment of your time to give me your estimate of my PD of June 2008 becoming current? Thanks much for your time!

It will be Oct - Dec 2012 realistically.

[hbk]

AFAIK Applying with you should be yes on both forms (I haven’t received them yet for signature). In my case the lawyer is filling up the forms but for this question on the template we indicated yes for both me and my wife.

Thanks Teddy.

In my case my lawyer's assistance
indicated NO on my wife's form & YES on
my form as my wife is applying based on
my petition as I m primary that's the answer
I got.

If possible can u check with your attorney
And let me know.

So getting confused here. :-(

Regards.

[TeddyKoochu]

A very very happy, prosperous, enlightening and bright Diwali to you and your families. May this journey of GC end soon for all of us waiting.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks Teddy.

In my case my lawyer's assistance
indicated NO on my wife's form & YES on
my form as my wife is applying based on
my petition as I m primary that's the answer
I got.

If possible can u check with your attorney
And let me know.

So getting confused here. :-(

Regards.

My attorney is just another case he sent me a mail not to ask questions before he reviews. I should be getting my forms in a day or two; maybe this is the way to indicate the primary applicant. I will let you know as soon as I see my forms but if your attorney has said that don't worry. I searched but could not find anything either.

[belmontboy]

Hello,

If anyone can answer below my question would be great help.

I am the primary applicant NOT my wife.

On form I-485 of my wife page 2 ==> part 3 ==> section B
We provided my information like last name, first name,DOB,country of birth & relationship as a HUSBAND.
Now question is what is the correct answer to the question "Applying with you ?" Yes or No on my wife's I-485 form ?
Answer is "Yes"

On my I-485 form answer to this question "Applying with you ?" is Yes. So got confused. So what is the correct answer of this question on my
wife's I-485 form ? Yes or No ? As I mentioned above I am the primary applicant.

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

Answers inline.
My response is based on the forms lawyer sent to me.

[krupa]

Latest I 485 Pending Status as on 10 oct 2011


http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Green%20Card/Green%20Card%20Through%20a%20Job/I-485%20Employment-Based%20Inventory%20Statistics/EB%20I-485%20Pending%20Inventory%20as%20of%20October%2001 %202011.pdf

[akshaya10001]

Compare to last year we have 7,782 Additional EB-1 & EB-2 ROW cases,so SOFAD for this year will be low compare to last year.

other points to consider.
1. This year data is Service Centers + field offices but for last year it was Service centers only. Any one have any comments on this?

2. people filed with PD July, Aug & Sept in EB-1 category won't get processed before sept 30th.Data indicates no.of cases for these months in 2011 is more is it indication that EB-1 filing is increased again?
data is
July'2010 --> 993 Aug'2010 --> 927 Sept '2010-->691
July'2011 --> 1285 Aug'2011 --> 1235 Sept '2011-->588



Oct 2011 I-485 inventory
EB1 - 14,072
EB2 ROW - 10,164
Total= 24,236

Oct 2010 I-485 inventory
EB1 - 7,595
EB2 ROW - 8,859
total ==. 16,454

[johnwright03]

Visa Bulletin Predictions and Updates from Charles Oppenheim (October 26, 2011) (http://www.cilawgroup.com/news/2011/10/26/visa-bulletin-predictions-and-updates-from-charles-oppenheim-october-26-2011/)


Guru's what do you think?

I am jan 08 (Border line according to many posts)..above article giving me much hope..

WOW...this is very encouraging...hoping for the BEST...Hope this Diwali brings a lot of light in our life, luck and growth...!!!

[akshaya10001]

Oct 2011 I-485 inventory
EB1 - 14,072
EB2 ROW - 10,164
Total= 24,236

EB-1 & EB-2 & Spill over from EB-5 & 4 == 85 K Visas


Last 4 months EB1 average is 1300 cases for month
Highest no.of Eb2 Row cases is in Feb'2011 around 1000 cases
If we assume above as the expected volume to be filed in next 8 months
2300 * 8 = 18,400

so 85K - 18.5K - 24.5K = 43 then SOFAD going to be 42-6K india & china EB-2 quota = 36K

last few years story is different, uscis is stream lining and clearing old cases so in 2008 & 2009 the part of Eb1 & Eb2 row quota was taken by long pending cases at the same time PERM got slowed.
In 2010 PERM processing back to normal so there may be more demand for Eb2 row. as cases with PD in 2008 -2010 was cleared.
Also Now Pending data includes cases at field offices also

Now NO more unexpected backlogs and this year GOING to BE a Clean year MAY be we surprised by more SOFAD as mentioned in above calculation?

with India & china quota if we move to June'2007.
and with 36K SOFAD PD will move beyond mid 2008 ? read below it gives a opinion that if filling is with in their expectation they keep PD steady is this not a good sign?
In 2006 & 2007 Per month we have approx. 2500 EB2 cases for india & china so we assume same number holds good for 2008 then PD should move by 14 months from June'2007.

if PD movse to Mid 2008 by feb'2012 and then uscis have enough Quota, cases & time to process these applications by sept'2012 so then they don't need to retrogress. as cases processed will get visa number and approved till mid 2008.

Visa Bulletin Predictions and Updates from Charles Oppenheim
EB-2 China and EB-2 India. These two categories are where the most action is going to be over the next few months. Mr. Oppenheim indicated that he expects to be able to advance EB-2 China and India significantly over the next few visa bulletins. It is possible that the December 2011 Visa Bulletin would advance EB-2 India and China to at least March 1, 2008 or even further. Similar forward movement may be expected in the January 2012 and February 2012 Visa Bulletins. Mr. Oppenheim cautioned, however, that if there is high demand (number of filings) in the EB-2 category, he may hold or even retrogress towards the summer of 2012. He noted that there is usually a 4-6 month gap between filing of an I-485 adjustment application and when a visa number is actually requested and allocated — this means that EB-2 India and China I-485 applications filed in the fall will be need visa numbers in spring/summer of 2012 and this is when retrogression may happen.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hello,

If anyone can answer below my question would be great help.

I am the primary applicant NOT my wife.

On form I-485 of my wife page 2 ==> part 3 ==> section B
We provided my information like last name, first name,DOB,country of birth & relationship as a HUSBAND.
Now question is what is the correct answer to the question "Applying with you ?" Yes or No on my wife's I-485 form ?

On my I-485 form answer to this question "Applying with you ?" is Yes. So got confused. So what is the correct answer of this question on my
wife's I-485 form ? Yes or No ? As I mentioned above I am the primary applicant.

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

I got to read my I485 application yesterday night, just sent them back to the attorney today morning. belmontboy's response is perfect and your forms are fine. Primary and secondary is noted on page # 1 of I485. Your forms are perfectly fine.

[TeddyKoochu]

WOW...this is very encouraging...hoping for the BEST...Hope this Diwali brings a lot of light in our life, luck and growth...!!!

Thanks for posting. Since this commentary comes from the man himself it lends it good credibility. This is very much in line with our prediction as well that the next VB will cross 2007 atleast. Q1 2008 folks are borderline and best of luck to everyone. May force be with us and hope maximum number of people get to file for 485. Friends I urge all of you to not get carried away because the projections of the agencies keep changing very quickly often to extremes, good luck to everyone. The volume of intake is entirely discretionary however I believe they will not try to overshoot the consumption this year by a very big number because then it will prevent them from justifying the same for next year.
"EB-2 China and EB-2 India. These two categories are where the most action is going to be over the next few months. Mr. Oppenheim indicated that he expects to be able to advance EB-2 China and India significantly over the next few visa bulletins. It is possible that the December 2011 Visa Bulletin would advance EB-2 India and China to at least March 1, 2008 or even further. Similar forward movement may be expected in the January 2012 and February 2012 Visa Bulletins. Mr. Oppenheim cautioned, however, that if there is high demand (number of filings) in the EB-2 category, he may hold or even retrogress towards the summer of 2012. He noted that there is usually a 4-6 month gap between filing of an I-485 adjustment application and when a visa number is actually requested and allocated — this means that EB-2 India and China I-485 applications filed in the fall will be need visa numbers in spring/summer of 2012 and this is when retrogression may happen."

[snathan]

EB-2 China and EB-2 India. These two categories are where the most action is going to be over the next few months. Mr. Oppenheim indicated that he expects to be able to advance EB-2 China and India significantly over the next few visa bulletins. It is possible that the December 2011 Visa Bulletin would advance EB-2 India and China to at least March 1, 2008 or even further. Similar forward movement may be expected in the January 2012 and February 2012 Visa Bulletins. Mr. Oppenheim cautioned, however, that if there is high demand (number of filings) in the EB-2 category, he may hold or even retrogress towards the summer of 2012. He noted that there is usually a 4-6 month gap between filing of an I-485 adjustment application and when a visa number is actually requested and allocated — this means that EB-2 India and China I-485 applications filed in the fall will be need visa numbers in spring/summer of 2012 and this is when retrogression may happen.

[hbk]

I got to read my I485 application yesterday night, just sent them back to the attorney today morning. belmontboy's response is perfect and your forms are fine. Primary and secondary is noted on page # 1 of I485. Your forms are perfectly fine.

Thanks Teddy.

What's the answer in your wife's 485 application
For "Applying with you ?" Yes or No ? My attorney
Selected No in my wife's application & Yes in my
Application.

Will appreciate your response.

Regards.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks Teddy.

What's the answer in your wife's 485 application
For "Applying with you ?" Yes or No ? My attorney
Selected No in my wife's application & Yes in my
Application.

Will appreciate your response.

Regards.

In my wife’s application, mine is selected as Yes. However I think the primary /secondary designation on page # 1 is more important. Do speak to your attorney it may be a mistake. Belmontboy’s form is the same as mine.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks for posting. Since this commentary comes from the man himself it lends it good credibility. This is very much in line with our prediction as well that the next VB will cross 2007 atleast. Q1 2008 folks are borderline and best of luck to everyone. May force be with us and hope maximum number of people get to file for 485. Friends I urge all of you to not get carried away because the projections of the agencies keep changing very quickly often to extremes, good luck to everyone. The volume of intake is entirely discretionary however I believe they will not try to overshoot the consumption this year by a very big number because then it will prevent them from justifying the same for next year.
"EB-2 China and EB-2 India. These two categories are where the most action is going to be over the next few months. Mr. Oppenheim indicated that he expects to be able to advance EB-2 China and India significantly over the next few visa bulletins. It is possible that the December 2011 Visa Bulletin would advance EB-2 India and China to at least March 1, 2008 or even further. Similar forward movement may be expected in the January 2012 and February 2012 Visa Bulletins. Mr. Oppenheim cautioned, however, that if there is high demand (number of filings) in the EB-2 category, he may hold or even retrogress towards the summer of 2012. He noted that there is usually a 4-6 month gap between filing of an I-485 adjustment application and when a visa number is actually requested and allocated — this means that EB-2 India and China I-485 applications filed in the fall will be need visa numbers in spring/summer of 2012 and this is when retrogression may happen."

I do believe that the movement should happen in the next bulletin itself, if delayed the result will be lesser. Here is a rough chart purely out of gut feel for the Dec VB.

01-JAN-2008 - 100%
15-JAN-2008 - 75%
01-FEB-2008 - 50%
15-FEB-2008 - 30%
01-MAR-2008 - 20%
01-APR-2008 - 10%

All the best to everyone.

[mzc123]

In my wife’s application, mine is selected as Yes. However I think the primary /secondary designation on page # 1 is more important. Do speak to your attorney it may be a mistake. Belmontboy’s form is the same as mine.

I submitted earlier this month and my forms says Yes on my wifey 485, just like belmontboy and teddy have indicated. Hope this helps.

[mzc123]

I do believe that the movement should happen in the next bulletin itself, if delayed the result will be lesser. Here is a rough chart purely out of gut feel for the Dec VB.

01-JAN-2008 - 100%
15-JAN-2008 - 75%
01-FEB-2008 - 50%
15-FEB-2008 - 30%
01-MAR-2008 - 20%
01-APR-2008 - 10%

All the best to everyone.

Teddy.... although I believe your predictions more than anyone else but I hope for once Mr. Oppenheim is right with his indication and beats your prediction for Dec VB :). If his comes true, it will be a huge relief to lot of our friends who have been waiting a long time to file 485.

Mr. Oppenheim indicated that he expects to be able to advance EB-2 China and India significantly over the next few visa bulletins. It is possible that the December 2011 Visa Bulletin would advance EB-2 India and China to at least March 1, 2008 or even further. Similar forward movement may be expected in the January 2012 and February 2012 Visa Bulletins.

[bpratap]

Do we have any numbers for EB3 movement if HR 3012 is enacted ?

[letstalklc]

I submitted earlier this month and my forms says Yes on my wifey 485, just like belmontboy and teddy have indicated. Hope this helps.
It supposed to be YES in both the applications, my attorney checked yes in both the forms.

[winsomelad]

Hey Guys,

H.R. 3012 bill is passed in Judiciary Committee. Full Committee passed the bill. Now it's on House Table. I wish they pass it soon.

[TeddyKoochu]

Do we have any numbers for EB3 movement if HR 3012 is enacted ?

EB3 will move to early 2004 everyone in 2002 and 2003 will get GC. Similarly for EB2 everyone in 2008 will get GC this year itself.

[winsomelad]

The cutoff date for the employment-based, second preference (EB2) category for India and China is expected to advance to at least March 1, 2008 in the December 2011 Visa Bulletin. This prediction is reliable, as we received it directly from Mr. Charles Oppenheim, Chief, Immigrant Visa and Control Division, U.S. Department of State.

[jindhal]

Annual Limits for Immigrant Visas

Employment-based annual limit: minimum 140,000. The actual limit is calculated as 140,000 plus unused family-sponsored preferences in the previous fiscal year. For example, in 2005 there were 3,949 unused family sponsored visa numbers, so the 2006 employment preference limit was set to 143,949 (140,000 + 3,949). If nothing was left, the limit would be 140,000.

Per-country cap: 7% of the total annual family-sponsored and employment-based preference limits. If the limits are 226,000 and 140,000, respectively, the per-country limit will be 25,620, which is 7% of (226,000 + 140,000). Furthermore, the per-country cap of 25,620 is divided into family-based limit (15,820) and employment-based limit (9800).

With the passing of HR 3012, the country cap will be raised to 85% from the current limit of 7%. Considering the EB2 Category which has a cap of 28.6% of the total employment based immigration visas (40040), the maximum number of employment based visa's cannot exceed 34034 in a fiscal year for an UNRESERVED COUNTRY (ignoring any spillover visa numbers).

The advantage to backlogged countries will be:
a) A higher number of visa's available at the start of fiscal year which will lead to many more people being adjudicated at the beginning of the year.
b) The current trend of spillover adjudications will remain in place, although the impact will be subdued as compared to the recent trend of a large number of adjudications at the end of the fiscal year.
c) Prior to the law being passed the retrogressed countries, India and China, depend on the visa usage by EB1 and EB2 row for spillovers with no guarantees on the amount of spillover visas that would be received. With the new distribution, both these countries will be allocated at least 34034 visas at the beginning of the year in EB2 as well as in EB3 category.
d) The most significant impact will be to the EB3(I) category where a normalizing effect will bring EB3(C) and EB3(ROW) priority dates on par with EB3(I) priority dates pending adjudication.
e) The second most significant impact will be to the EB2(C), EB2(I) and EB2(ROW) category where a normalizing effect will bring the priority dates for all the EB2 categories within a few months of each other.
f) The EB3 category will not get any spillover visa number for at least the next 3 fiscal years (deduced from the current outstanding EB2 inventory). However if the current trend continues for EB2 applications from India, China and ROW, there will be an eventual spill over from EB2 to EB3 category.

[hbk]

In my wife’s application, mine is selected as Yes. However I think the primary /secondary designation on page # 1 is more important. Do speak to your attorney it may be a mistake. Belmontboy’s form is the same as mine.

Thanks teddy,belmontboy & mzc123.

I m going to speak with my lawyer.
My wife is on H1B may be because of that
they selected "NO" ? Any thoughts ?
As I mentioned earlier I m primary applicant.

Will greatly appreciate your reply.

Regards.

[mzc123]

Thanks teddy,belmontboy & mzc123.

I m going to speak with my lawyer.
My wife is on H1B may be because of that
they selected "NO" ? Any thoughts ?
As I mentioned earlier I m primary applicant.

Will greatly appreciate your reply.

Regards.

I don't think that should matter... my wife is on H1-B as well and has her own approved labor and 140 but with a later PD but her 485 form (with me as primary applicant) was marked Yes by my attorney.
I think the Page 1 matters most where it is indicated as primary or spouse checkbox, as teddy mentioned earlier. But, do check with your attorney to ensure there wasn't any typo on their end.
I had a bunch myself that needed corrections when they sent me for review.

[hbk]

I don't think that should matter... my wife is on H1-B as well and has her own approved labor and 140 but with a later PD but her 485 form (with me as primary applicant) was marked Yes by my attorney.
I think the Page 1 matters most where it is indicated as primary or spouse checkbox, as teddy mentioned earlier. But, do check with your attorney to ensure there wasn't any typo on their end.
I had a bunch myself that needed corrections when they sent me for review.

Thanks MZC123 for the reply.

Spoke to my lawyer & it was an error on their end. They already changed it.
Now its YES on my wife's 485 too.

Once again thanks to Teddy, MZC123 & belmontboy.

Regards.

[TeddyKoochu]

If you want to censor this thread so heavily it'd be better to simply shut it down. Otherwise please explain the motivation behind deleting perfectly naive posts.


I completely agree, unnecessary deletion of a perfectly reasonable discussion must stop, this is very demotivating to people.

PS - I do not have moderator access anymore for the thread.

[TeddyKoochu]

The EB3 inventory reduced by 4.8K assuming India’s cap as 2.8K and that ~ 2K of local office demand was added the porting can be approximated to 4K. Since porting is not very significant it will help to surge forward movement.

[coopheal]

If you want to discuss about predictions go ......

Arun, IV has always allowed discussion on the EB issues including predictions. This thread has provided lot of useful information to many people.

[pappu]

Pls stay focused on the purpose and title of the thread. Posts that create distraction, against IV , or even promoting anti immigrant websites or businesses will be deleted.

Many people have tried to deface this thread for their own interests and thus our moderators have been strict.

[mhkumar]

Fragomen global corporate immigration law | News and Resources United States (http://www.fragomen.com/newsresources/xprNewsDetailFrag.aspx?xpST=USAlerts&news=1376)

[pappu]

The EB3 inventory reduced by 4.8K assuming India’s cap as 2.8K and that ~ 2K of local office demand was added the porting can be approximated to 4K. Since porting is not very significant it will help to surge forward movement.

There is an unseen demand from local offices that cannot be captured. This makes predictions very difficult and not very accurate. Eb3 India faced this a lot in the last few years due to 245I and other factors like fraud suspicion, crime history etc that lead to interviews. To some extent eb3 row also face this.
In iv opinion porting is not a significant number as people think. But still it is a number. The other unknown is multiple applications of i485 by people.

[pappu]

It is not something we do not know and have not been talking about it on forums for past many months. Dates for eb2 are definitely going to advance. How much depends on number of people who apply 485 in Eb 2 every month and people who get approved every mo th. the aim is to advance dates and build a pipeline. As posted earlier immigration voice had been talking to officials about it.

[gaz]

Pls stay focused on the purpose and title of the thread. Posts that create distraction, against IV , or even promoting anti immigrant websites or businesses will be deleted.

Many people have tried to deface this thread for their own interests and thus our moderators have been strict.

Pappu - I didn't see any posts from anyone here posting or promoting anti immigrant sites or businesses here intentionally. The intention was to share information relevant to the subject. Maybe moderators should post an explanation deleting posts that appear relevant- otherwise it makes them seem too trigger happy at best (or at worst pursuing a personal agenda/vendetta)

[neelu8]

Let me ask you one simple question - where did you post the information as concrete as Fragomen or Murthy? Everyone knows that they will be building pipeline..

IV has repeatedly met with the officials with precise data and is the reason why they are building pipeline now as opposed to later in the spillover season. And it was mentioned on this forum multiple times. Please understand Fragomen and Murthy are law firms and are quoting a statement from Oppenheimer. It is in their best interest to put this information out and claim knowledge. IV is the one actually meeting with these officials but it is not in IV's interest to put this out. That is the nature of advocacy. The goals here are bigger and in the interest of the bigger goals you have to strategically choose your plan of action.

Those of us involved in advocacy realize what it takes to even move a needle in Washington. Our opposition has budget in the millions of dollars. IV barely has enough, but has a important seat at the table because of the years of dedication of the leaders and active members. So if you are benefitting from this movement or from the bill, please realize you are enjoying the ride based on a lot of people's efforts and donations here. And that is totally fine, it is intended for everyone's benefit. But it will be great to have everyone's support to get us across the finish line and is much needed.

[pappu]

Pappu - I didn't see any posts from anyone here posting or promoting anti immigrant sites or businesses here intentionally. The intention was to share information relevant to the subject. Maybe moderators should post an explanation deleting posts that appear relevant- otherwise it makes them seem too trigger happy at best (or at worst pursuing a personal agenda/vendetta)

Point is taken. Moderators will try to be considerate before deleting posts.

[krupa]

HR 3012 , mainly focuses on " TRANSITION RULES FOR EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS" and the new amendment is effective for only three fiscal years 2012, 2013 and 2014.

The intention to bring this amendmend is to clear the backlog pending I 485 applications and to benefit most restrogressed countires . If any application not processed or completed during these three fiscal years then the old process takes place for those pending applications.

Annual Limits for Immigrant Visas

Employment-based annual limit: minimum 140,000. The actual limit is calculated as 140,000 plus unused family-sponsored preferences in the previous fiscal year. For example, in 2005 there were 3,949 unused family sponsored visa numbers, so the 2006 employment preference limit was set to 143,949 (140,000 + 3,949). If nothing was left, the limit would be 140,000.

Per-country cap: 7% of the total annual family-sponsored and employment-based preference limits. If the limits are 226,000 and 140,000, respectively, the per-country limit will be 25,620, which is 7% of (226,000 + 140,000). Furthermore, the per-country cap of 25,620 is divided into family-based limit (15,820) and employment-based limit (9800).

With the passing of HR 3012, the country cap will be raised to 85% from the current limit of 7%. Considering the EB2 Category which has a cap of 28.6% of the total employment based immigration visas (40040), the maximum number of employment based visa's cannot exceed 34034 in a fiscal year for an UNRESERVED COUNTRY (ignoring any spillover visa numbers).

The advantage to backlogged countries will be:
a) A higher number of visa's available at the start of fiscal year which will lead to many more people being adjudicated at the beginning of the year.
b) The current trend of spillover adjudications will remain in place, although the impact will be subdued as compared to the recent trend of a large number of adjudications at the end of the fiscal year.
c) Prior to the law being passed the retrogressed countries, India and China, depend on the visa usage by EB1 and EB2 row for spillovers with no guarantees on the amount of spillover visas that would be received. With the new distribution, both these countries will be allocated at least 34034 visas at the beginning of the year in EB2 as well as in EB3 category.
d) The most significant impact will be to the EB3(I) category where a normalizing effect will bring EB3(C) and EB3(ROW) priority dates on par with EB3(I) priority dates pending adjudication.
e) The second most significant impact will be to the EB2(C), EB2(I) and EB2(ROW) category where a normalizing effect will bring the priority dates for all the EB2 categories within a few months of each other.
f) The EB3 category will not get any spillover visa number for at least the next 3 fiscal years (deduced from the current outstanding EB2 inventory). However if the current trend continues for EB2 applications from India, China and ROW, there will be an eventual spill over from EB2 to EB3 category.

[neelu8]

HR 3012 , mainly focuses on " TRANSITION RULES FOR EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS" and the new amendment is effective for only three fiscal years 2012, 2013 and 2014.

The intention to bring this amendmend is to clear the backlog pending I 485 applications and to benefit most restrogressed countires . If any application not processed or completed during these three fiscal years then the old process takes place for those pending applications.

No, HR3012 completely eliminates country limits and makes it a FIFO system. The transition rules are in place so that it is not a sudden jolt to the system when the backlog is clearing and so that all backlogged countries get relief. In the transition period 85% is FIFO in 2012 (with 70% limit for a single country) and 90% is FIFO in 2013 and 2014. After the 3 years it is 100% FIFO for all EB categories.
Needless to stay in the first few years India, China, Mexico and Philippines are the primary beneficiaries of the FIFO system as these countries are backlogged. After that, it is whoever applied first, regardless of which country. No one in a certain EB category will get a green card before anyone else with a older priority date in that EB category.
Lofgren amendment which was approved by the Judiciary Committee removes transition rules for EB1, i.e EB1 will have no country limits right from the beginning (it does not really impact EB1 as they are always undersubscribed)

[jindhal]

No, HR3012 completely eliminates country limits and makes it a FIFO system. The transition rules are in place so that it is not a sudden jolt to the system when the backlog is clearing and so that all backlogged countries get relief. In the transition period 85% is FIFO in 2012 (with 70% limit for a single country) and 90% is FIFO in 2013 and 2014. After the 3 years it is 100% FIFO for all EB categories.
Needless to stay in the first few years India, China, Mexico and Philippines are the primary beneficiaries of the FIFO system as these countries are backlogged. After that, it is whoever applied first, regardless of which country. No one in a certain EB category will get a green card before anyone else with a older priority date in that EB category.
Lofgren amendment which was approved by the Judiciary Committee removes transition rules for EB1, i.e EB1 will have no country limits right from the beginning (it does not really impact EB1 as they are always undersubscribed)

I second your opinion.

[hello]

Hi Guys
If HR 3012 becomes law.What would be the PD for EB3 and EB2?

[krupa]

It will depend on how many labor already cleared and pending for filing 485.
With the current pending I 485 status in OCT -2012 , India EB3 may get cleared till Dec -2004 and India EB2 may become current .


Hi Guys
If HR 3012 becomes law.What would be the PD for EB3 and EB2?

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi Guys
If HR 3012 becomes law.What would be the PD for EB3 and EB2?

EB2 will be 01-JAN-2009; EB3 will be 01-JAN-2004. Some of the allocation for this year has been consumed already that must be taken into account for any projections.

[AshokApex]

This month EB2 Cut off may be March 2008, i think.

[manchala]

IV has repeatedly met with the officials with precise data and is the reason why they are building pipeline now as opposed to later in the spillover season. And it was mentioned on this forum multiple times. Please understand Fragomen and Murthy are law firms and are quoting a statement from Oppenheimer. It is in their best interest to put this information out and claim knowledge. IV is the one actually meeting with these officials but it is not in IV's interest to put this out. That is the nature of advocacy. The goals here are bigger and in the interest of the bigger goals you have to strategically choose your plan of action.

Those of us involved in advocacy realize what it takes to even move a needle in Washington. Our opposition has budget in the millions of dollars. IV barely has enough, but has a important seat at the table because of this years of dedication of the leaders and active members. So if you are benefitting from this movement or from the bill, please realize you are enjoying the ride based on a lot of people's efforts and donations here. And that is totally fine, it is intended for everyone's benefit. But it will be great to have everyone's support to get us across the finish line and is much needed.
I agree.

anyone who feels bad about posts being deleted please think abt the damage it might cause to the families waiting for years and struggling. unknowingly there might be something negative in your post that might help antis. Please be with IV in this effort. Please do not take anything personal if your post gets deleted. Hope you understand.

[TeddyKoochu]

EB-2 China and EB-2 India. These two categories are where the most action is going to be over the next few months. Mr. Oppenheim indicated that he expects to be able to advance EB-2 China and India significantly over the next few visa bulletins. It is possible that the December 2011 Visa Bulletin would advance EB-2 India and China to at least March 1, 2008 or even further. Similar forward movement may be expected in the January 2012 and February 2012 Visa Bulletins. Mr. Oppenheim cautioned, however, that if there is high demand (number of filings) in the EB-2 category, he may hold or even retrogress towards the summer of 2012. He noted that there is usually a 4-6 month gap between filing of an I-485 adjustment application and when a visa number is actually requested and allocated — this means that EB-2 India and China I-485 applications filed in the fall will be need visa numbers in spring/summer of 2012 and this is when retrogression may happen.

Friends I would urge all to take all postings at different places and predictions everywhere including here based on your judgment and not literally at face value. It is very kind of CO to have shared with AILA about the Dec and future VB's however there is always a time lapse between that time and when the bulletin is declared. Since the situation can change in that time it can cause swings and changes to the final outcome. I hope that the dates move in the next bulletin itself because the I140 approvals are surging and EB2 ROW and EB1 inventory is rising these do not augur well for SOFAD. However since the 01-MAR-2008 comes from the man himself I hope it materializes.

[TeddyKoochu]

Friends following are the Other Site comparisons for 2011.
EB2 ROW 2010 - 25
EB2 ROW 2011 - 63
EB1 (A+B+C) - 2010: 8 + 6 + 5 = 19
EB1 (A+B+C) - 2011: 3 + 2 + 20 = 25
Last year’s SOFAD was 30K lets split it as EB1 - 12K, EB5 - 6K, Regular Cap - 5.5K, EB2 ROW 6.5
- EB2 ROW usage is drastically down by 60%. This could really be good for SOFAD. If this trend continues
Then EB2 could well be providing very significant SOFAD.
Let’s assume decline to be 30% instead of 60%. As smaller figures do not mean smaller scale down literally they should be factored.
EB2 ROW SOFAD will be - (40-5.5) - 70/100 (40-5.5-6.5) = 34.5 - 19.6 = 15K.
- EB1 is overall in the same range down by 25%, however looking at the figures looks like the Kazarian memo is playing havoc with EB1 A & B diminishing and EB1C growing 4 fold.
Looks like EB1 should maintain the 12K SOFAD. It’s a must that the Kazarian trend is maintained or ROW decline should compensate it.
Despite high 485 inventory and high 140 figures the Other Site trend for October is highly encouraging. This is very early days however last year this early lead was very correct. With this early trend I believe that last year’s SOFAD level may well be maintained but let’s make note that it’s an early trend and Other Site represents only a small sample of data but the great advantage is that its well organized. For October yet another explanation could be that CO is giving away EB1, EB2 ROW and EB5 excess to EB2 I/C on a monthly basis if it is literally true.
If last year’s SOFAD level is maintained then everyone in 2007 will have GC in hand by Sep 2012, however the other indicators suggest lesser movement than this. To take the Other Site trend concrete another 2 months of observation is required. The agencies IMHO must maintain 2 months as a buffer. Let’s all hope the Other Site trend holds.

[TeddyKoochu]

This month EB2 Cut off may be March 2008, i think.

These are just my personal beliefs. The movement will happen only in the Dec bulletin because definitely a wave is coming by I140 and I485.
The date range could be 01-JAN-2008 to 01-MAR-2008 (Date From CO).
Actual approvals i.e. GC in hand will range from 01-NOV-2007 to 31st Dec 2007. The Other site trend indicates the higher end for now otherwise with the wave of I140 and I485 it may well be the lower end.

[madhekar]

These are just my personal beliefs. The movement will happen only in the Dec bulletin because definitely a wave is coming by I140 and I485.
The date range could be 01-JAN-2008 to 01-MAR-2008 (Date From CO).
Actual approvals i.e. GC in hand will range from 01-NOV-2011 to 31st Dec 2011. The Other site trend indicates the higher end for now otherwise with the wave of I140 and I485 it may well be the lower end.
Teddy,

Can you explain this "a wave is coming by I140 and I485." .
i think we know how many i-140 are ready for 2008 & 2009 as they are all approved & waiting for I485

[manchala]

People can expect some good movement in Jan bulletin that comes in Dec. Probably March 2008.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,

Can you explain this "a wave is coming by I140 and I485." .
i think we know how many i-140 are ready for 2008 & 2009 as they are all approved & waiting for I485

You can have a look at the latest I485 Inventory and USCIS I140 dashboard.

[Circle]

These are just my personal beliefs. The movement will happen only in the Dec bulletin because definitely a wave is coming by I140 and I485.
The date range could be 01-JAN-2008 to 01-MAR-2008 (Date From CO).
Actual approvals i.e. GC in hand will range from 01-NOV-2011 to 31st Dec 2011. The Other site trend indicates the higher end for now otherwise with the wave of I140 and I485 it may well be the lower end.

Teddy: I am sorry but I didn't understand the range (01 Nov 2011 to 31st Dec 2011) you provided for GC in hand. What priority dates you are referring to here?

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy: I am sorry but I didn't understand the range (01 Nov 2011 to 31st Dec 2011) you provided for GC in hand. What priority dates you are referring to here?

My apologies there was a typo I intended to refer to 2007, original post corrected.

Actual approvals i.e. GC in hand will range from 01-NOV-2007 to 31st Dec 2007. The Other site trend indicates the higher end for now otherwise with the wave of I140 and I485 it may well be the lower end.

[RaOne2011]

Teddy - My PD is Feb 2003 (EB3-I)....Any predictions on when it may be current with or without HR 3012. My lawyer is also working on submitting a pre-certification labor with EB2 and he said the entire process can take 12-18 months. Just wanted to make ur predictions.

Also, another query...i applied for 485 in July 2007 and got married later. Lawyer said that my wife's 485 has to be applied within 2 weeks or so of my date becoming current, else it may be an issue. Any advise? Thanks!

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy - My PD is Feb 2003 (EB3-I)....Any predictions on when it may be current with or without HR 3012. My lawyer is also working on submitting a pre-certification labor with EB2 and he said the entire process can take 12-18 months. Just wanted to make ur predictions.

Also, another query...i applied for 485 in July 2007 and got married later. Lawyer said that my wife's 485 has to be applied within 2 weeks or so of my date becoming current, else it may be an issue. Any advise? Thanks!

Even if your PD is 01-FEB-2003 there are 5700 cases ahead of you which would mean 2 full years, so porting is the way to go, normally everything should get done in 1 year’s time. For your wife you can file for her 485 as soon as your 140 gets approved, just in case your 485 gets approved I believe that you can still file for your wife after a couple of months but best to do it sooner.

[little_willy]

Even if your PD is 01-FEB-2003 there are 5700 cases ahead of you which would mean 2 full years, so porting is the way to go, normally everything should get done in 1 year’s time. For your wife you can file for her 485 as soon as your 140 gets approved, just in case your 485 gets approved I believe that you can still file for your wife after a couple of months but best to do it sooner.

I agree with Teddy. If you have the option, please port your priority date. For that matter, any EB3-I/C applicants should definitely consider porting to EB2.

[bpratap]

All EB3 guys should consider porting to Eb2. Please talk to ur Employers/ Lawyers about porting to EB2.

[smuggymba]

Even if your PD is 01-FEB-2003 there are 5700 cases ahead of you which would mean 2 full years, so porting is the way to go, normally everything should get done in 1 year’s time. For your wife you can file for her 485 as soon as your 140 gets approved, just in case your 485 gets approved I believe that you can still file for your wife after a couple of months but best to do it sooner.

hi TK,

I thought EB3 will be at 1 Jan 2004 and he should be current after HR3012. Would it take 2 yrs to reach 2003 for EB3 even after 3012?

[TeddyKoochu]

hi TK,

I thought EB3 will be at 1 Jan 2004 and he should be current after HR3012. Would it take 2 yrs to reach 2003 for EB3 even after 3012?

This one is without 3012, the progression rate is @2800 per annum. HR 3012 can drastically change things.

[mk26]

Teddy based on current numbers/calculations when do you think october filers should have the GC in hand ? and what about yours (nov filers)? when do you think you will get your GC in hand?

[yawali58]

[Hi Teddy,

I admire you for your valuable inputs, knowledge and your will to help others

I have one question?

My priority date is Feb-2008, Hopefully it will be current by next 1~2 month. I-140 was filed with CP processing option. I have just received the email from NVC for fee payment

My question is should I continue CP processing route or change to OAS and apply for 485 as soon as priority date becomes current.

My understanding is with 485 filing, I can work permit for my wife also which will not happen with CP processing.

Since there is a good chance the PD will retrogress, I may not get actual green card fro another one year.

CP or OAS route both are probably going to take same time if the new law is passed in that case there will no be any retrogression.

Looking for your guidance

[reddy77]

Hello Gurus, So far I thought mine was filed in Eb2 and I recently came to know that it was filed under eb3 and I do not work for same company any more. The date is Oct 2006 eb3, Right now I am working on EAD and current company doesn't do GC's, so cant do porting. what are my others options? Should I continue working on EAD for next (do not know how many) years until its current? Please advice, Thanks ...

[rknadupalle]

Hi all

I am just curious to know how long will it take for me to get the GC if HR 3012 passes

Priority date - April EB3 ( I think around 50,000 people are before me)


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[rajeever]

Hello Gurus, So far I thought mine was filed in Eb2 and I recently came to know that it was filed under eb3 and I do not work for same company any more. The date is Oct 2006 eb3, Right now I am working on EAD and current company doesn't do GC's, so cant do porting. what are my others options? Should I continue working on EAD for next (do not know how many) years until its current? Please advice, Thanks ...

Reddy77, you are great!

[rknadupalle]

Hi all

I am just curious to know how long will it take for me to get the GC if HR 3012 passes

PD - April 2007 - EB3 ( I think around 50,000 people are before me)


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[kopra]

all EB3's, with PD post 2005 will have minor effect even if the bill passes. Eb3 Row has been around 2005 for a very long time even with the country quota. Try your level best to convince your company to sponser in EB2 and port the date.There is a good chance that EB2 may become current in 1 year if this bill passes.Ultimately, this is a good bill for everyone and everyone can benefit from porting to EB2







Hi all

I am just curious to know how long will it take for me to get the GC if HR 3012 passes

PD - April 2007 - EB3 ( I think around 50,000 people are before me)


Contributed $100 and calls to representatives

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[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy based on current numbers/calculations when do you think october filers should have the GC in hand ? and what about yours (nov filers)? when do you think you will get your GC in hand?

It is entirely CO's discretion how he would like to allocate numbers. Best case is 3 months and worst case is Jul - Sep 2012. In the October approvals the entire cap for I/C has been consumed, so now unless CO allocates more numbers early by quarterly spillover or other ways it will take time till May 2012 to set the ball rolling. All the best, mine has also been filed today finally. Next month is the key, if CO keeps allocating numbers then approvals will keep coming sooner. I believe all PWMB's who filed last month have had FP done so nothing left to do now its really for them to adjudicate the case.

[TeddyKoochu]

[Hi Teddy,

I admire you for your valuable inputs, knowledge and your will to help others

I have one question?

My priority date is Feb-2008, Hopefully it will be current by next 1~2 month. I-140 was filed with CP processing option. I have just received the email from NVC for fee payment

My question is should I continue CP processing route or change to OAS and apply for 485 as soon as priority date becomes current.

My understanding is with 485 filing, I can work permit for my wife also which will not happen with CP processing.

Since there is a good chance the PD will retrogress, I may not get actual green card fro another one year.

CP or OAS route both are probably going to take same time if the new law is passed in that case there will no be any retrogression.

Looking for your guidance

GO for AOS without any second thoughts. This way you and family will get EAD and AP and that way you are completely safe.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hello Gurus, So far I thought mine was filed in Eb2 and I recently came to know that it was filed under eb3 and I do not work for same company any more. The date is Oct 2006 eb3, Right now I am working on EAD and current company doesn't do GC's, so cant do porting. what are my others options? Should I continue working on EAD for next (do not know how many) years until its current? Please advice, Thanks ...

Try porting without any second thoughts. The wait in EB3 is not worth it unless PD is in 2002.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi all

I am just curious to know how long will it take for me to get the GC if HR 3012 passes

Priority date - April EB3 ( I think around 50,000 people are before me)


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Thanks,

It will still take 4 years. After 2005 the smooth movement will stop even after the bill passes because EB3 ROW is stuck in Dec 2005. Porting is the way to go.

[TeddyKoochu]

I agree.

anyone who feels bad about posts being deleted please think abt the damage it might cause to the families waiting for years and struggling. unknowingly there might be something negative in your post that might help antis. Please be with IV in this effort. Please do not take anything personal if your post gets deleted. Hope you understand.

AFAIK nobody is feeding the anti's here. People are just asking simple questions and everyone is trying to help others. I saw some of the people whose posts have been deleted have been banned; I believe that is taking things too far when people were just expressing their opinion. Anyway lets all continue the good dialogue on this board.

[staln]

Hello Gurus, So far I thought mine was filed in Eb2 and I recently came to know that it was filed under eb3 and I do not work for same company any more. The date is Oct 2006 eb3, Right now I am working on EAD and current company doesn't do GC's, so cant do porting. what are my others options? Should I continue working on EAD for next (do not know how many) years until its current? Please advice, Thanks ...

Bro I saw your post yesterday and wanted to confirm my EB category though I was told it to be EB2 by my employer for the last 4 years. And found that it is EB3. Feel sorry for people like us who are cheated by employers and kept in the dark. People should ask for copy of the approved I-140 to confirm the EB category and not believe whatever the employer says.

[fatboysam]

Bro I saw your post yesterday and wanted to confirm my EB category though I was told it to be EB2 by my employer for the last 4 years. And found that it is EB3. Feel sorry for people like us who are cheated by employers and kept in the dark. People should ask for copy of the approved I-140 to confirm the EB category and not believe whatever the employer says.

Don't tell me the Job description was also hidden from you, it's straight forward to make out from that description..

[TeddyKoochu]

Bro I saw your post yesterday and wanted to confirm my EB category though I was told it to be EB2 by my employer for the last 4 years. And found that it is EB3. Feel sorry for people like us who are cheated by employers and kept in the dark. People should ask for copy of the approved I-140 to confirm the EB category and not believe whatever the employer says.

Friends I would urge all to check their I140 approval notices. Most of us will have the following (if you are not NIW) if you are EB2. I can imagine the heartbreak.

"Mem of Profession w/Adv Deg, or of Exceptn'l Ability Sec.203(b)(2)"

[mayurcreation]

Bro I saw your post yesterday and wanted to confirm my EB category though I was told it to be EB2 by my employer for the last 4 years. And found that it is EB3. Feel sorry for people like us who are cheated by employers and kept in the dark. People should ask for copy of the approved I-140 to confirm the EB category and not believe whatever the employer says.
You can ask your employer to start GC process allover again in EB2 category. I think labor are getting clear in 4 to 5 months time. And after labor gets clear, you can file your I140,I485, etc with interfiling potion.

If your employer is not ready to start your GC process in EB2 than I will strongly suggest you to change employer NOW.

[fatboysam]

You can ask your employer to start GC process allover again in EB2 category. I think labor are getting clear in 4 to 5 months time. And after labor gets clear, you can file your I140,I485, etc with interfiling potion.

If your employer is not ready to start your GC process in EB2 than I will strongly suggest you to change employer NOW.
4-5 months for PERM, i thought it's taking 2-3 months , is it rite ?

[CaliHoneB]

I saw a couple of posts making fun of the people whose world was shaken after finding out that they are "not in Eb2 category". People question how can this happen or if they didn't read the job description..
It didn't happen to me but it happened to a close friend of mine but he was lucky that instead of Eb3 his application was done in Eb2 which is like a lucky lottery but the fact is he actually didn't know his category. Job description was never given to him because he just needed a job , any resumes was passed through people he knew(us).

I am mentioning this because when this paperwork is being done people don't realize the importance of the paperwork or may be just happy with to get a new job but it later dawns on them that GC is the key to be in the US. Sometimes it may not be even their fault. I am sure we all acted stupid at some point so when people are asking advise.. if you have something which helps them write back otherwise don't respond.

[yawali58]

Thanks a Lot

[sareesh]

Fatboysam:
my job description was masters + 2 years and it got approved without any issues. But My I-140 was applied under EB3 because my attorney thought that was safe. Did not even bother asking me. I work for a really good company and they me a copy of I-140 without me asking them. I was also under the assumption that it was filed under EB2 untill I looked my I-140. So, don't assume by looking at your Job desciptiion.

Don't tell me the Job description was also hidden from you, it's straight forward to make out from that description..

[gcstart]

It is entirely CO's discretion how he would like to allocate numbers. Best case is 3 months and worst case is Jul - Sep 2012. In the October approvals the entire cap for I/C has been consumed, so now unless CO allocates more numbers early by quarterly spillover or other ways it will take time till May 2012 to set the ball rolling. All the best, mine has also been filed today finally. Next month is the key, if CO keeps allocating numbers then approvals will keep coming sooner. I believe all PWMB's who filed last month have had FP done so nothing left to do now its really for them to adjudicate the case.

Hi Teddy,
First off thanks a bunch for all your posts, they are very valuable to the community.

I am EB2-I with a priority date of July 2007 and current as of Nov 1. My 485 was filed during the July 2007 fiasco concurrently with I-140, which was approved in 2008. I thought my wait for GC was finally over, but from your post, it sounds like the wait could continue on. Do you know how we'll be able to tell if the CO is using quarterly spillover? Not that I am complaining, particularly in light of the plight of our EB-3 brothers and sisters, whats a few more months of wait...

Would it be possible to guess when I can expect GC if quarterly spillover is used and if it isn't?

Good luck to everyone! At least one positive way to look at things is that this whole EB immigration fiasco has hit rock bottom and the only way left is upward...Hopefully through the efforts of IV and the community things will start to look up as they already are.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi Teddy,
First off thanks a bunch for all your posts, they are very valuable to the community.

I am EB2-I with a priority date of July 2007 and current as of Nov 1. My 485 was filed during the July 2007 fiasco concurrently with I-140, which was approved in 2008. I thought my wait for GC was finally over, but from your post, it sounds like the wait could continue on. Do you know how we'll be able to tell if the CO is using quarterly spillover? Not that I am complaining, particularly in light of the plight of our EB-3 brothers and sisters, whats a few more months of wait...

Would it be possible to guess when I can expect GC if quarterly spillover is used and if it isn't?

Good luck to everyone! At least one positive way to look at things is that this whole EB immigration fiasco has hit rock bottom and the only way left is upward...Hopefully through the efforts of IV and the community things will start to look up as they already are.
Your case is slightly different from PWMB cases who filed last month. On an average all cases will take 3 months to adjudicate. Now even PWMB cases filed last month may take another 2 months. Your case is adjudicated now itself.

We are at the mercy of spillover to make things move, looks like the entire cap of EB2 I/C appears to have been used up based on 6K approvals last month. You maybe lucky to get approved this month itself if numbers are available or allocated or may have to wait till start of Q4 in the worst case scenario in absence of quarterly spillover.

[ananyaganguly]

People who are filing I485 now ,I have a humble request if you can refresh the documents requirement list ,it will help us who are getting ours ready ,
Also I have a question ,is bank statement and bank good standing letter needed to file Eb2 I485.
Thanks
Ananya

[rkg000]

People who are filing I485 now ,I have a humble request if you can refresh the documents requirement list ,it will help us who are getting ours ready ,
Also I have a question ,is bank statement and bank good standing letter needed to file Eb2 I485.
Thanks
Ananya

USCIS - I485 (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3faf2c1a6855d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD)
This link has required info.

[ananyaganguly]

Thanks rkg.

[TeddyKoochu]

People who are filing I485 now ,I have a humble request if you can refresh the documents requirement list ,it will help us who are getting ours ready ,
Also I have a question ,is bank statement and bank good standing letter needed to file Eb2 I485.
Thanks
Ananya

If the attorney asks to file a I134 (Affidavit of Support) from the primary to all derivative applicants then the bank statement is required as an attachment.

[manchala]

AFAIK nobody is feeding the anti's here. People are just asking simple questions and everyone is trying to help others. I saw some of the people whose posts have been deleted have been banned; I believe that is taking things too far when people were just expressing their opinion. Anyway lets all continue the good dialogue on this board.

Teddy,

My messsage was general not aiming at any particular post or particular deletion. It is wrong if there is nothing and post gets deleted. I did not even see those posts and I can not say if it was good or bad. My message was just a request to everyone.

I believe in IV leadership and I am pretty sure that they have given the moderator rights to the person who can make a good judgement about this.

[ananyaganguly]

Thanks Teddy,
Some websites say it is required and some say not needed ,our attorney won't even discuss anything before the date is current so no help from there,
you must have already filed your papers ,all the best there.
Thanks
ananya

[ramu.attelli]

Teddy, what are the chances for getting I140 APPROVAL for Future employment GC. Is it required to join the employer before I140 or after I140.

[gc_on_demand]

If the attorney asks to file a I134 (Affidavit of Support) from the primary to all derivative applicants then the bank statement is required as an attachment.

Teddy ,

one will need bank statement if your income is below poverty line , then you need 3 times balance of what is short of poverty line.

Lets say if you are family of 3 and if poverty line says 15k and ur income is 12k then you need 15-12 = 3k * 3 = 9k in bank balance.

If you make more than what is suggested , you don't need any balance.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,

My messsage was general not aiming at any particular post or particular deletion. It is wrong if there is nothing and post gets deleted. I did not even see those posts and I can not say if it was good or bad. My message was just a request to everyone.

I believe in IV leadership and I am pretty sure that they have given the moderator rights to the person who can make a good judgement about this.

That is exactly the point Iam making; some posts that have been deleted were just questioning the deletion policy. When I was the moderator and deleted posts I have always explained back to the group or private messaged. Maybe similar explanation needs to be given in all fairness. Since you may not have read those posts I give you the benefit of doubt.
Additionally there needs to be higher tolerance on deleting posts and banning people. I read some of the postings not all that were deleted and it is disappointing to note that this happened. Some of the posts were mere requests for information about date movements I do not believe that disclosing the information if any will cause any harm to anybody here or help anti's. My point is that if information is posted on IV before other places it increases the reputation of IV itself. I hope my point is well taken it is general not anything specifically for you.
Regardless lets continue the good dialogue on this board.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy ,

one will need bank statement if your income is below poverty line , then you need 3 times balance of what is short of poverty line.

Lets say if you are family of 3 and if poverty line says 15k and ur income is 12k then you need 15-12 = 3k * 3 = 9k in bank balance.

If you make more than what is suggested , you don't need any balance.

Iam not sure about this my attorney asked me to submit the I134 with details of all bank accounts and investments. The idea seems to be to send these details to all organizations that support public charges. There is a Para there that you are affirming that your dependents will not become a public charge and if any application is submitted then the information in I134 can be used for the evaluation. I just submitted this because my attorney asked for it.

[ananyaganguly]

I just checked the list that our legal had sent quite some time ago and it does mention a bank letter along with w2 and federal income tax .nothing about I134 but I will double check with them .so I guess its better to be prepared to submit if needed.I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE BANK LETTER IS THERE A FORMAT I CAN USE ,AND TO WHOM SHOULD THE BANK ADDRESS THE LETTER.PLS ADVICE.
Teddy you are always prompt and extremely helpful ,you are beyond asset to this forum.
ananya

[TeddyKoochu]

I just checked the list that our legal had sent quite some time ago and it does mention a bank letter along with w2 and federal income tax .nothing about I134 but I will double check with them .so I guess its better to be prepared to submit if needed.I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE BANK LETTER IS THERE A FORMAT I CAN USE ,AND TO WHOM SHOULD THE BANK ADDRESS THE LETTER.PLS ADVICE.
Teddy you are always prompt and extremely helpful ,you are beyond asset to this forum.
ananya

My attorney did not ask for the bank letter just the I134 with all statements. Even my attorney is very restrictive about any communication or questions, so I just sent him the details exactly as he asked. The I134 attachments have far greater information than just bank statements, you are liable to declare any investments property in USA and even in the home country. Best thing would be to ask your attorney for the list of documents and aim to send everything by say the 15th so that they have ample time to work on your case.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy, what are the chances for getting I140 APPROVAL for Future employment GC. Is it required to join the employer before I140 or after I140.

In the current environment it will be extremely tough to get the EB2 I140 approved especially for future employment, the company should have a good balance sheet. AFAIK you are legally obligated to join them only after GC approval but most of them will like you to join them sooner.

[letstalklc]

My attorney did not ask for the bank letter just the I134 with all statements. Even my attorney is very restrictive about any communication or questions, so I just sent him the details exactly as he asked. The I134 attachments have far greater information than just bank statements, you are liable to declare any investments property in USA and even in the home country. Best thing would be to ask your attorney for the list of documents and aim to send everything by say the 15th so that they have ample time to work on your case.

Teddy,

My attorney didnt asked for it, what is the purpose?

Hope it's not mandatory.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,

My attorney didnt asked for it, what is the purpose?

Hope it's not mandatory.

It definitely is not mandatory, may vary from attorney to attorney. Majority view here is that it is not required.

[letstalklc]

It definitely is not mandatory, may vary from attorney to attorney. Majority view here is that it is not required.

Thanks for the reply. As long as it's not mandatory I am fine.

[hbk]

I got to read my I485 application yesterday night, just sent them back to the attorney today morning. belmontboy's response is perfect and your forms are fine. Primary and secondary is noted on page # 1 of I485. Your forms are perfectly fine.

Hi Teddy,

Did you get tracking number from your attorney
When he/she send out your petition to USCIS ?

I got USPS tracking # but not working !!! I got answer
From attorney office that u will see details once it
Gets delivered. They mailed via express mail yesterday.

Any thoughts...

Regards.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi Teddy,

Did you get tracking number from your attorney
When he/she send out your petition to USCIS ?

I got USPS tracking # but not working !!! I got answer
From attorney office that u will see details once it
Gets delivered. They mailed via express mail yesterday.

Any thoughts...

Regards.

I did not get anything from my attorney except for the confirmation. However since I have sent personal cheques I can see when they will get encashed, someone mentioned it takes a week. Since 10K applications just I + C will be reaching them it will be slow.

[gclabor07]

TK,

My attorney did not ask for this form nor any bank statements. I specifically asked him if I should provide this, but his explicit answer was NO. My research on the web also revealed that this varies from attorney to attorney. My view is that it is probably a document when a US citizen sponsors somebody to come to the US on (family based) greencard, so they need to make sure the person can be supported. Since, we're already in the US, the need may not be there. That's just my guess.

Hope this helps others.



It definitely is not mandatory, may vary from attorney to attorney. Majority view here is that it is not required.

[madhekar]

When do we think the next Bulletin will come is it going to be tomorrow or next Firday

W

[belmontboy]

should the AOS documents be sent to phoenix service center (i live in california)?

[pkrg21]

Next Friday is Federal holiday. It will be released between sometime today to next thursday. Nobody knows the exact date. I am going to get reds just for posting this useless response because of your useless question!!!

When do we think the next Bulletin will come is it going to be tomorrow or next Firday

W

[madhekar]

Next Friday is Federal holiday. It will be released between sometime today to next thursday. Nobody knows the exact date. I am going to get reds just for posting this useless response because of your useless question!!!
Why do you think it is useless ,my Priority Date is 3-mar-08 & with the 1-mar-08 date around i wanted to know if it will come tonight or i need to wait for one more week

[Mr. Brown]

Hi Teddy,

Did you get tracking number from your attorney
When he/she send out your petition to USCIS ?

I got USPS tracking # but not working !!! I got answer
From attorney office that u will see details once it
Gets delivered. They mailed via express mail yesterday.

Any thoughts...

Regards.

OMG! ... get a grip on yourself ... I can imagine you running around all jittery.

If your USPS tracking # isn't "working" (whatever that means) ... WAIT for a day and try again.

What thoughts? About how USPS works? You want us/Teddy to answer that for you?

Sheesh!

Why are these junk posts not deleted?

[Paisano]

I have an active I-140, approved back in 2008, from my employer. They had a change of address last year. They moved from address A to address B. Both the address are in the same metropolitan area. The distance between those two addresses is less than 15 miles. There is no change in their business, my title or job duties or description.

Is my I-140 still valid? Can I apply for my AOS without any problems?

[Mr. Brown]

I have an active I-140, approved back in 2008, from my employer. They had a change of address last year. They moved from address A to address B. Both the address are in the same metropolitan area. The distance between those two addresses is less than 15 miles. There is no change in their business, my title or job duties or description.

Is my I-140 still valid? Can I apply for my AOS without any problems?

I am in the exact same boat ... the employer moved offices within 2 miles. Attorney says that's no big deal ... companies move all the time.

[Paisano]

Thank you. Been waiting for the last 4 f***ing years to become current.

I am in the exact same boat ... the employer moved offices within 2 miles. Attorney says that's no big deal ... companies move all the time.

[belmontboy]

should the AOS documents be sent to phoenix service center (i live in california)?

any help appreciated here..

seems like two of colleagues had their apps filed at NSC.
However mine was filed at Phoenix Service Center.
Anybody else in same situation?

[ajp5]

IV friends,
I am hoping my priority date (early December 2007) is current in the next visa bulletin. Say it does, I plan to get all medical tests done right away and get my complete application ready to be sent on December 1st (will request EAD + AP). Hopefully I'll get AOS receipt in 10 days. The reason why these dates are important is I am leaving for India for a month long vacation around December 2nd week with my wife who is on H4. We plan to go for H1b/H4 stamping. I am a full time employee with a reputed company so 221g should not be a problem but you never know.

Question : If there is H1b stamping delay, will USCIS send me EAD+AP within 90 days of my receipt without fingerprinting? If yes, I can probably have someone mail me EAD+AP in india and I can use that to re-enter the country. Sooner or later, the dates are going to be pushed back to July 07 timeframe so i can get fingerprinting done later when dates become current for me later in the FY. Appriciate if someone can respond. Thanks

[PKneedsGC]

Hello IV friends,

I am posed with a very big dilemma here and was wondering if anyone her could possibly guide me. My Husbands priority date is Mearch 17, 2008 and I was reading in the forums that this may be a good few months for the EB2 as the decmber bulletin may advance to Dec, 08 and eventually the other bulletins may advance this further.
I have been eagerly awaiting my EAD so as to quit my H1 based job and have a relaxed schedule. I have also planned a trip on the Decmber 19th coming back in mid- Feb.

If my date becomes current in Decmber, then i m guessing, i can still send the documents, get the receipt, complete finger printing and then possibly leave by third week of december and safely come back in feb.

if my date becomes current in jan bulletin, then how should i play things out to prioritize my EAD but also plan an India trip around that somewhere.

Please advise as to what the best course of action would be.

Thank you.

[gcganapati]

Next Friday is Federal holiday. It will be released between sometime today to next thursday. Nobody knows the exact date. I am going to get reds just for posting this useless response because of your useless question!!!


after i saw your response i got laguh for 2 minites...nice joke thanks...:D

[hbk]

OMG! ... get a grip on yourself ... I can imagine you running around all jittery.

If your USPS tracking # isn't "working" (whatever that means) ... WAIT for a day and try again.

What thoughts? About how USPS works? You want us/Teddy to answer that for you?

Sheesh!

Why are these junk posts not deleted?

Mr. Brown,

I respect your comments at the same time if you don't know exact situation then I request you don't describe post as a junk. I am in US since last 7 years so I know very well how USPS works.....

Regards.

[rkg000]

any help appreciated here..

seems like two of colleagues had their apps filed at NSC.
However mine was filed at Phoenix Service Center.
Anybody else in same situation?

Belmontboy, even if it went to Phoenix, it'll eventually reach NSC. I was in NJ and my employer in VA when mine was filed but the application went to California from where it was transferred to TSC. The only issue with this (any applications that get transferred) is, when the time comes to issue the GC there will be slight delay. I have seen this happen to may people and almost to all that had their cases transferred. I was current since May 1st this year, but got the actual card about couple of weeks ago. I don't know the exact reason but may be they don't handle transferred cases with that much care. I have to add though that of the 3 EADs and 1 AP I had applied I always got the approvals within 30 days. So, don't worry and enjoy the semi-freedom.

[TeddyKoochu]

should the AOS documents be sent to phoenix service center (i live in california)?

any help appreciated here..

seems like two of colleagues had their apps filed at NSC.
However mine was filed at Phoenix Service Center.
Anybody else in same situation?

There is the lockbox facility is a generic filing center. Refer to the link below you should be fine.
USCIS - Direct Filing Addresses for Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=eb7b5cdc2c463110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD )

[TeddyKoochu]

IV friends,
I am hoping my priority date (early December 2007) is current in the next visa bulletin. Say it does, I plan to get all medical tests done right away and get my complete application ready to be sent on December 1st (will request EAD + AP). Hopefully I'll get AOS receipt in 10 days. The reason why these dates are important is I am leaving for India for a month long vacation around December 2nd week with my wife who is on H4. We plan to go for H1b/H4 stamping. I am a full time employee with a reputed company so 221g should not be a problem but you never know.

Question : If there is H1b stamping delay, will USCIS send me EAD+AP within 90 days of my receipt without fingerprinting? If yes, I can probably have someone mail me EAD+AP in india and I can use that to re-enter the country. Sooner or later, the dates are going to be pushed back to July 07 timeframe so i can get fingerprinting done later when dates become current for me later in the FY. Appriciate if someone can respond. Thanks

Yes your date will likely get current in this VB. AFAIK you can travel after you get the receipt notice. EAD / AP normally take 3 months to come by though so probably you should be back by then. You might miss your fingerprinting appointment as these days its normally coming within the month of filing itself. If you have an attorney he /she can coordinate that with your schedule by requesting for another appointment. Iam not sure if EAD / AP also requires biometrics in that case your EAD / AP may also get delayed.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hello IV friends,

I am posed with a very big dilemma here and was wondering if anyone her could possibly guide me. My Husbands priority date is Mearch 17, 2008 and I was reading in the forums that this may be a good few months for the EB2 as the decmber bulletin may advance to Dec, 08 and eventually the other bulletins may advance this further.
I have been eagerly awaiting my EAD so as to quit my H1 based job and have a relaxed schedule. I have also planned a trip on the Decmber 19th coming back in mid- Feb.

If my date becomes current in Decmber, then i m guessing, i can still send the documents, get the receipt, complete finger printing and then possibly leave by third week of december and safely come back in feb.

if my date becomes current in jan bulletin, then how should i play things out to prioritize my EAD but also plan an India trip around that somewhere.

Please advise as to what the best course of action would be.

Thank you.

The requirement to file for I485 is that you should be in US at that point of time. The Dec bulletin should be out soon so that will be a very good indicator, if you make it in this time it’s great otherwise if you miss by a small margin there may be a chance in the next bulletin. For your date to be current still significant movement is required it is outside the current news projection as well. The dates will retrogress also after sometime. Best to buy a flexible ticket or from an airline that charges lesser change fee. Fingerprinting may take atleast a month. This is my personal belief that all movement should happen in this bulletin itself so hopefully it will be a good indicator, subsequent bulletins may have lesser or no movement because the dates cannot be sustained at this level for long.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi,

Anyone can plz let me know, where EB-2 March 2011 PD wud be, if HR 3012 passes? I mean, how long it wud take for March 2011 EB-2 PD to become current?

Thanks,
Shefali

It will still take 2 - 2.5 Years to be current.

[canuck787]

Just filed my AOS along with AP/EAD applications. My H1 is valid until oct 2013.
I have to travel next week to europe on business.
is it ok to travel without AP? or do I have to wait for AP before I leave US?

[abybaby81]

I believe you are fine unless you are in the same county, but the lawyers should know....

[njverifier]

Just filed my AOS along with AP/EAD applications. My H1 is valid until oct 2013.
I have to travel next week to europe on business.
is it ok to travel without AP? or do I have to wait for AP before I leave US?

If you have a valid visa you can travel while your AP is pending... this will have no effect on your pending AP. I checked with my attorney and they made it clear that I can travel while my AP is pending. Let us know if you've heard otherwise.

[Sdniw]

HI Teddy,

My EB2 priority date is April 17 2008, can you please tell me if there are any chances my dates would become current this bulletin or at least next bulletin?>

[TeddyKoochu]

HI Teddy,

My EB2 priority date is April 17 2008, can you please tell me if there are any chances my dates would become current this bulletin or at least next bulletin?>

According to the news guidance the expected cutoff was 01-MAR-2008 anything beyond that atleast for the Dec bulletin looks unlikely. Lets wait and watch for the bulletin it should be coming soon.

[belmontboy]

There is the lockbox facility is a generic filing center. Refer to the link below you should be fine.
USCIS - Direct Filing Addresses for Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=fe529c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=eb7b5cdc2c463110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD )

Heard back from lawyer.
Now all I-485's (identified by regions) with either be sent to Dallas or Phoenix lockbox - as per instruction of USCIS. They process filing fee's, once they are done, the applications will be routed to appropriate service center's.

thanks for all who responded

[gaz]

According to the news guidance the expected cutoff was 01-MAR-2008 anything beyond that atleast for the Dec bulletin looks unlikely. Lets wait and watch for the bulletin it should be coming soon.

whats the outlook for 2012 if the next bulletin does bring about Mar 01? do you see post mar 01 being the new pwmb?

[Paisano]

My lawyer's response....

Your I140 is valid until revoked by the employer or if there is no longer a bona fide job. The fact that your employer moved should not affect the validity of this I140. In order to proceed with I485, your employer must provide a letter stating the job opportunity is still available and this must be submitted with the initial I485 filing. If this letter will not be provided by your employer you cannot file the I485. A support letter is an initial requirement of the I485.

I have an active I-140, approved back in 2008, from my employer. They had a change of address last year. They moved from address A to address B. Both the address are in the same metropolitan area. The distance between those two addresses is less than 15 miles. There is no change in their business, my title or job duties or description.

Is my I-140 still valid? Can I apply for my AOS without any problems?

[TeddyKoochu]

whats the outlook for 2012 if the next bulletin does bring about Mar 01? do you see post mar 01 being the new pwmb?

My own projection for the intake was just till 31st Dec 2007; however the news is very exciting and since it comes from the man himself 01-MAR-2008 is likely. The idea would really be to have 30K as the target for the intake out of this year out of this I believe that 6K in terms of cap has been used (Oct Approvals) there is another 6.5 in the system by last month (PWMB + 2.5K demand data) and around 10K will be added this month (Nov) . So realistically another 8K maximum to add this month. However if CO likes to have a larger buffer or if lesser people are actually filing then there can be more movement this year. Similar thing should also happen in 2012 for this it is important that they do not overshoot by a large number otherwise it will be hard to justify another intake. This year’s trend is still in its infancy let’s see how things move.

[Mr. Brown]

Mr. Brown,

I respect your comments at the same time if you don't know exact situation then I request you don't describe post as a junk. I am in US since last 7 years so I know very well how USPS works.....

Regards.

Of course, I don't know the "exact" situation because you didn't mention it. Since it is a public forum I suggest you either mention it thoroughly or do not expect us to magically know about it.

What is this mystery situation anyway? Care to enlighten us?

You filed for AOS ... be happy!

[adibhatla]

We got the magic SMS and email @ 9.15AM.

PD Date: 05/07/2007.
I485 Denied: 12/18/2008 (for missing Biometric Information Sheets) both spouse and I.
I-485 Reinstated date: 02/11/2009.
Date became Current: 10/01/2011.
SR opened date: 10/04/2011.
Congressman requested date: 10/07/2011.
Infopass Date: 10/21/2011
I-485 approved date: 11/04/2011.

After 11 years here we become Green. I believe request to Congressman definetly works.

I don't say folks to stay tight. I request you all to be restless like me and do whatever you can, like calling L2 repeatedly, SR request, Congressman, Infopass DO EVERYTHING within your limit afterall it's you GC.

All the good luck with pursuing.

Cheers!

MAA

[moonrah]

My own projection for the intake was just till 31st Dec 2007; however the news is very exciting and since it comes from the man himself 01-MAR-2008 is likely. The idea would really be to have 30K as the target for the intake out of this year out of this I believe that 6K in terms of cap has been used (Oct Approvals) there is another 6.5 in the system by last month (PWMB + 2.5K demand data) and around 10K will be added this month (Nov) . So realistically another 8K maximum to add this month. However if CO likes to have a larger buffer or if lesser people are actually filing then there can be more movement this year. Similar thing should also happen in 2012 for this it is important that they do not overshoot by a large number otherwise it will be hard to justify another intake. This year’s trend is still in its infancy let’s see how things move.

To me it looks like CO didn't look at the I-140 inventory or anything like that to move dates till now. Also, from the recent announcement, it doesn't look like he is going to. All he cares about how many GCs requested based on the approved I-485 (I assumed) to move the dates around. The moment demand exceeds available numbers, dates will retrogress. Till then, if CO continues to advance the date or not is anybody's guess.

[ek_bechara]

I got the email a week ago and card today. I applied for my wife in early October and we are waiting for biometrics.

QUESTION: We are planning a trip to India in December and my wife will hopefully get biometrics done before that. What I’m interested in knowing is whether she can go the Consulate to get her H1-B stamped? If her EAD shows up before we leave then she will invoke the EAD but the issue is if no EAD and have to re-enter on H1-B how will that work?

Also can she leave the country when her AOS (Adjustment of Status) is pending?

[hbk]

Of course, I don't know the "exact" situation because you didn't mention it. Since it is a public forum I suggest you either mention it thoroughly or do not expect us to magically know about it.

What is this mystery situation anyway? Care to enlighten us?

You filed for AOS ... be happy!

Well don't want to disclose "exact" situation on the discussion forum as its related to attorney side.

We both have same PD month i.e. Sep-07 so many congratulations to you also as you also filed AOS.

Regards.

[njverifier]

I got the email a week ago and card today. I applied for my wife in early October and we are waiting for biometrics.

QUESTION: We are planning a trip to India in December and my wife will hopefully get biometrics done before that. What I’m interested in knowing is whether she can go the Consulate to get her H1-B stamped? If her EAD shows up before we leave then she will invoke the EAD but the issue is if no EAD and have to re-enter on H1-B how will that work?

Also can she leave the country when her AOS (Adjustment of Status) is pending?

Yes she can go for H1B stamping in the current situation. But H1's now a days is a big hassle. Even if she gets her EAD her H1 will still be valid until she uses her EAD.

Ofcourse she can leave the country while her AOS is pending, how do you think EB3 people who filed their AOS in 2007 are travelling to India?

What do you mean by she will invoke EAD? To enter US you will need a valid visa or an Advance Parole(AP). Make sure you apply for AP along with EAD and there is no question of AP without EAD.

[shouldIwait]

My own projection for the intake was just till 31st Dec 2007; however the news is very exciting and since it comes from the man himself 01-MAR-2008 is likely. The idea would really be to have 30K as the target for the intake out of this year out of this I believe that 6K in terms of cap has been used (Oct Approvals) there is another 6.5 in the system by last month (PWMB + 2.5K demand data) and around 10K will be added this month (Nov) . So realistically another 8K maximum to add this month. However if CO likes to have a larger buffer or if lesser people are actually filing then there can be more movement this year. Similar thing should also happen in 2012 for this it is important that they do not overshoot by a large number otherwise it will be hard to justify another intake. This year’s trend is still in its infancy let’s see how things move.

Teddy,

My calculations are turning up a little different. Below nos. include the PWMB but not the 2.5K of leftover demand data. So, the demand upto Dec comes to 24-25K and end of Feb comes to 32-33K. So the 1 March 2008 movement appears to be in-line with expected inventory build-up. But all of this does not take into account the drop-out percentage which is completely unknown to us. Only USCIS knows and we might know when next I-485 inventory report is released. With that report we'll be able to project future movement with more confidence.

Apr-07 1096
May-07 1375
Jun-07 1646
Jul-07 2720
Aug-07 2944
Sep-07 3078
Oct-07 3579
Nov-07 3198
Dec-07 3083
Jan-08 3982
Feb-08 3789
Mar-08 3116

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,

My calculations are turning up a little different. Below nos. include the PWMB but not the 2.5K of leftover demand data. So, the demand upto Dec comes to 24-25K and end of Feb comes to 32-33K. So the 1 March 2008 movement appears to be in-line with expected inventory build-up. But all of this does not take into account the drop-out percentage which is completely unknown to us. Only USCIS knows and we might know when next I-485 inventory report is released. With that report we'll be able to project future movement with more confidence.

Apr-07 1096
May-07 1375
Jun-07 1646
Jul-07 2720
Aug-07 2944
Sep-07 3078
Oct-07 3579
Nov-07 3198
Dec-07 3083
Jan-08 3982
Feb-08 3789
Mar-08 3116

Please provide the details of how you arrived at the post Jul 2007 figures. The 2.5K figure is the rough inventory betwen Jul 15th and Aug 15th and any older cases remaining. We should be cognizant to the fact that 8.5K of the cap has also been burnt out. You have probably omitted the 6K inventoried people between Apr 15th and Jul 15th. The 3K per month approximation is quite good.

[srhari]

Teddy,
Your inputs are priceless and your tireless effort to answer our questions are much appreciated.

My PD is June 2009 EB2-I. Any idea, when my PD would become current with and without HR 3012? I really tried to calculate the numbers myself with all the information that I read here in this post, but unfortunately, I couldn't get that. Appreciate the help.

Regards,
Hari.

[shouldIwait]

Normally EB2 wait time is 5 years, some people may have applied just before the Jul 2007 fiasco they may have been luckier.

Basically what will happen is that once the country cap is removed ROW will retrogress. People before this date likely all before 2009 will get greened the same year. Some of us have spent more than 4.5 years just to file for 485.

After that every one moves in unison so it will take 1 to 1.5 years from this point.

This bill will cut the EB2 and EB3 wait times for retrogressed countries to half.


Currently EB2-I is guaranteed only 2850 GC's every year. With this bill they'd be guaranteed 29,000 for the first year (28.6% of 85% of 85% of 140K). This no. will increase slightly in following three years due to phase-in rules. In addition to this, EB2-I will get EB1 spillover and EB4/5 spillover. Historically EB4/5 spillover has been around 10K and doesn't vary much but EB1 spillover has varied from nil to several thousands last year.
Comparing with last year total allocation of around 32-33K, this can still be 60% jump. Last year's SOFAD resulted in dates moving about 1 year total during a dense period. We are now slowly approaching comparatively sparse period. So, all in all if EB1 spillover doesn't disappoint and the bill passes, EB2-I can end up around Jan-Feb 2009 by Sep 2012 bulletin.

But EB3-I gets straightforward 10 times increase in allocation. So in terms of benefit it's definitely greater for EB3-I but it's significant for EB2-I too.

I'm eagerly waiting for it to be put on house calendar.

[shouldIwait]

Please provide the details of how you arrived at the post Jul 2007 figures. The 2.5K figure is the rough inventory betwen Jul 15th and Aug 15th and any older cases remaining. We should be cognizant to the fact that 8.5K of the cap has also been burnt out. You have probably omitted the 6K inventoried people between Apr 15th and Jul 15th. The 3K per month approximation is quite good.

Here's how I arrived at this data. Based upon my description you can decide whether or not I omitted anything. I started with combining PERM data from all of the previous years and filtered on India and included "Certified" and "Certified Expired" cases. I then extracted the actual priority date from the A#(which is hidden in Julian day format) and ordered the entire set by priority date. Next, I excluded all the data for which Priority Date as well as Approval Date was before Fiasco, because they were already included in the I-485 inventory. The remaining information was grouped by month based upon priority-date. Then I multiplied by 0.75 (the EB2/EB3 ratio) and then by 2.2 (the family multiplier).
So, this includes ALL of PWMB and when we are considering a total inventory target for this year burnt inventory needn't be substracted as it is these people who are getting these GC's.

[redsox2009]

I started with combining PERM data from all of the previous years and filtered on India and included "Certified" and "Certified Expired" cases.

You cannot count every "Certified Expired" cases, I know few really generic expired cases. Also there are many generic expired cases in 2008.

[smanohar]

Got text alert and email from cris at 1:41 am today with the status updated to approved.
My PD is 25 th July 2007 and the case was filed in Nebraska.

Thanks Teddy for all the good work you are doing and good luck to everyone waiting for their turn.
:)

[rakesh76]

My case got approved.It seems it got approved on 4th November but my status got changed on 6th morning 5.15

I got SMS as well as status got changed.

Thanks Teddy for good work. My best wishes to all of you.

[prem_goel]

Congrats smanohar and rakesh76 . If you don't mind, can you share if you did anything that helped USCIS pick up your application and approve? Things such as calling USCIS helpline, raising a Service Request, meeting senator etc?

Also, just to help with my own theory, had you recently applied for EAD or AP? And this may sound ridiculous, but nevertheless, does your last name start with the first few alphabets of english, such as A, B, C etc...?

:)...just trying to understand what protocol USCIS follows in selecting pre-adjudicated applications for approval.

[TeddyKoochu]

Got text alert and email from cris at 1:41 am today with the status updated to approved.
My PD is 25 th July 2007 and the case was filed in Nebraska.

Thanks Teddy for all the good work you are doing and good luck to everyone waiting for their turn.
:)

My case got approved.It seems it got approved on 4th November but my status got changed on 6th morning 5.15

I got SMS as well as status got changed.

Thanks Teddy for good work. My best wishes to all of you.

Friend’s congratulations to both of you, thanks for sharing the good news with all of us. Enjoy your green life.

Looks like quarterly spillover or monthly access allocation is in play. This will help to bring actual GC to people faster. I believe all preadjudicated cases from Jul 2007 should get approved this month.

[shamlal]

I got a text message @ 4:31AM today. Instead of approved I485 status, I see Card Ordered as my status. Is it normal?

[shamlal]

Thank you so much Teddy… Reading you predictions has become part of my life for past year. Hope everyone gets greened soon…

[smanohar]

Congrats smanohar and rakesh76 . If you don't mind, can you share if you did anything that helped USCIS pick up your application and approve? Things such as calling USCIS helpline, raising a Service Request, meeting senator etc?

Also, just to help with my own theory, had you recently applied for EAD or AP? And this may sound ridiculous, but nevertheless, does your last name start with the first few alphabets of english, such as A, B, C etc...?

:)...just trying to understand what protocol USCIS follows in selecting pre-adjudicated applications for approval.

Thanks prem_goel. I didn't do anything. Last EAD/AP was applied in last year October. In fact I decided not to apply for AP last month when dates became current for me and No my last name doesn't start with A,B,C etc . :)

I guess they are using PD as the "protocol" because if you see the other tracking site then you will see applications with PD around 25 th July getting approved in last 4 - 5 days.

All the best and hang in there.

[gcforevr]

Teddy, for Nov 1st filers, how long do you think before receipting is done (NSC)? Also, are biometrics required to get the EAD/AP card? Thanks!

[letstalklc]

As per the October filers tracker, I see majority of them got in 2nd week (mid to end) whoever filed in 1st week of October, so guessing the same trend for November filers too, my application has reached to Dallas Lock Box on Nov 1st early hours(8.50AM), hoping for the receipt no some time next week Wednesday to Saturday (receipts will come in through postal service).

I am not sure about EAD/AP approval without bio metrics, but strongly thinking that you have to get it to be done in order to get EAD and AP.

Will see some updates next week mid hopefully

Good luck with the next steps

[hbk]

I did not get anything from my attorney except for the confirmation. However since I have sent personal cheques I can see when they will get encashed, someone mentioned it takes a week. Since 10K applications just I + C will be reaching them it will be slow.

Hi Teddy,

Did your cheque's get encashed ?

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

[doknek]

Waiting for Dec VB to come out... I am 28 Nov 2007 eb2 PD. Hoping for some good news after a long wait.

Am checking these forums and state bulletin site like crazy.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi Teddy,

Did your cheque's get encashed ?

Will greatly appreciate your response.

Regards.

Not yet still awaiting the same, hopefully by this week I believe few people should have cheques encashed or receipts received.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy, for Nov 1st filers, how long do you think before receipting is done (NSC)? Also, are biometrics required to get the EAD/AP card? Thanks!

Receipting may take 2 weeks from submission because of the high number of filings ~ 10K. So far no one has reported cheques being encashed or receipting.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thank you so much Teddy… Reading you predictions has become part of my life for past year. Hope everyone gets greened soon…

Congratulations & Thanks for sharing the good news with all of us. Enjoy your green life.

[SGP]

Hi Teddy,

First of all I would like to thank you for your efforts and predictions. My PD is Nov 8, 2002 (EB3I). I missed the 2007 boat. I have yet to file for I-485. Could you please predict when could I expect to file for I485 and then how much longer would it take to to get "GREENED"

If I can say "TeddyKoochu" Baba Ki Jai :)

[TeddyKoochu]

Here's how I arrived at this data. Based upon my description you can decide whether or not I omitted anything. I started with combining PERM data from all of the previous years and filtered on India and included "Certified" and "Certified Expired" cases. I then extracted the actual priority date from the A#(which is hidden in Julian day format) and ordered the entire set by priority date. Next, I excluded all the data for which Priority Date as well as Approval Date was before Fiasco, because they were already included in the I-485 inventory. The remaining information was grouped by month based upon priority-date. Then I multiplied by 0.75 (the EB2/EB3 ratio) and then by 2.2 (the family multiplier).
So, this includes ALL of PWMB and when we are considering a total inventory target for this year burnt inventory needn't be substracted as it is these people who are getting these GC's.

The logic looks sound; I believe you are capturing everyone including China as well. The figures for the months before Jul 2007 look a little week. On another note have a look at the Oct Inventory for Jul 2007 you will find that the EB2 I + C count exceeds 3000.

[TeddyKoochu]

Hi Teddy,

First of all I would like to thank you for your efforts and predictions. My PD is Nov 8, 2002 (EB3I). I missed the 2007 boat. I have yet to file for I-485. Could you please predict when could I expect to file for I485 and then how much longer would it take to to get "GREENED"

If I can say "TeddyKoochu" Baba Ki Jai :)

I believe you are on the fringe of EB3-I this year there are 3300 people ahead of you. This kind of exceeds the Eb3-I yearly allocation but I believe that there are gaps in the EB3 Inventory. You should have your chance between Sep 2012 and Dec 2012.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,
Your inputs are priceless and your tireless effort to answer our questions are much appreciated.

My PD is June 2009 EB2-I. Any idea, when my PD would become current with and without HR 3012? I really tried to calculate the numbers myself with all the information that I read here in this post, but unfortunately, I couldn't get that. Appreciate the help.

Regards,
Hari.

EB2 outlook is currently 5 years so sometime in Jun 2014 your days should be current. However if 3012 passed it could become 1.5 years instead of 3.

[TeddyKoochu]

whats the outlook for 2012 if the next bulletin does bring about Mar 01? do you see post mar 01 being the new pwmb?

Everything depends on the following 3 factors.

1) What SOFAD is expected if its 30K then CO's prediction will be realized in this VB itself. Move backwards by 1 month for every 3K less.
2) What kind of buffer CO needs, ideally he should work with a small buffer to justify the same kind of thing in the next year as well.
3) Current I140 backlog is 30K as opposed to 15K last year if this is cleared to last years level SOFAD might drop by 8-10K.

The current approval trend is very encouraging but we should be cognizant to the fact that 8.5K SOFAD has been used already. IMHO the chances of this bulletin going to 01-MAR are 50-50, there is definitely some chance for the next one as well if this fails. Let’s see some of the comments and guidance in the VB. It will be a very close race for all Q1 2008 folks. All the very best.

[phigi]

fyi - the check sent was encashed on friday - 11/4 for my AoS.
i saw many people asking around here.

[Rb_newsletter]

Here's how I arrived at this data. Based upon my description you can decide whether or not I omitted anything. I started with combining PERM data from all of the previous years and filtered on India and included "Certified" and "Certified Expired" cases. I then extracted the actual priority date from the A#(which is hidden in Julian day format) and ordered the entire set by priority date. Next, I excluded all the data for which Priority Date as well as Approval Date was before Fiasco, because they were already included in the I-485 inventory. The remaining information was grouped by month based upon priority-date. Then I multiplied by 0.75 (the EB2/EB3 ratio) and then by 2.2 (the family multiplier).
So, this includes ALL of PWMB and when we are considering a total inventory target for this year burnt inventory needn't be substracted as it is these people who are getting these GC's.

You are smart.

[SGP]

I believe you are on the fringe of EB3-I this year there are 3300 people ahead of you. This kind of exceeds the Eb3-I yearly allocation but I believe that there are gaps in the EB3 Inventory. You should have your chance between Sep 2012 and Dec 2012.

Thanks Teddy. I presume you have predicted without HR3012. What if this is passed? Are there chances that I will be "GREENED" earlier?

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks Teddy. I presume you have predicted without HR3012. What if this is passed? Are there chances that I will be "GREENED" earlier?

If the bill passes your date should be current immediately and you should be greened within 3 months of filing.

[looneytunezez]

TK,

Do you think I have a chance of filing for AOS this year (FY 2012)?

[SGP]

If the bill passes your date should be current immediately and you should be greened within 3 months of filing.

Thanks :). Just praying that HR3012 passes ASAP.

[TeddyKoochu]

TK,

Do you think I have a chance of filing for AOS this year (FY 2012)?

For anyone beyond Q1 2008 it will be very tough this year. Nothing is impossible though but likelihood is less.

[rohan09]

Teddy,

Thank you for your great guidance in this thread. Just wanted to find out if there is an estimate on the timeline for PWMB application getting approved. I have heard that it takes 4 weeks after biometrics but was not sure how true this assumption is.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,

Thank you for your great guidance in this thread. Just wanted to find out if there is an estimate on the timeline for PWMB application getting approved. I have heard that it takes 4 weeks after biometrics but was not sure how true this assumption is.

I believe for your kind of PD it should really be 4 weeks after biometrics. I believe atleast the primary is approved and awaiting the derivative applicant if its both then also maximum 2 months after biometrics.

[evoori]

Receipting may take 2 weeks from submission because of the high number of filings ~ 10K. So far no one has reported cheques being encashed or receipting.
I recd txt / email on friday evening.. today showing 'pending' withdrawal for check..
although i submitted separate 1145 for me and my wife, I received all the emails and txt.. it is for dallas lockbox.. hope this helps..

[namjoshi]

When will this bill proceed and move to the next stage ?
Any timelines yet ?
Thank you

[herndon]

Got my receipts from Texas. They received on Nov 1 and receipt dated Nov 3rd.

[srhari]

Teddy,
Thanks so much for taking your time to answer my question. Appreciate it. :)

Regards,
Hari.
EB2 outlook is currently 5 years so sometime in Jun 2014 your days should be current. However if 3012 passed it could become 1.5 years instead of 3.

[hbk]

Not yet still awaiting the same, hopefully by this week I believe few people should have cheques encashed or receipts received.

Thanks Teddy.

Please update as soon as you get any info on cheques or receipts....

Regards.

[prmetta]

Good Morning and Thanks Teddy and other fellow brother and sisters.

Here is my information:

PD : July 23, 2007
I485 Receipt Date: 02 OCT 2007
Processed at NSC

==============================================
Yesterday at 9:00 PM (11/07/2011) got the text / email alert as follows:
==============================================

When I login to the USCIS site it was there on Decision Tab.

Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS

Your Case Status: Decision

On November 7, 2011, we mailed you a notice that we had registered this customer's new permanent resident status. Please follow any instructions on the notice. Your new permanent resident card should be mailed within 60 days following this registration or after you complete any ADIT processing referred to in the welcome notice, whichever is later. If you move before receiving your card, please call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.


During this step the formal decision (approved/denied) is written and the decision notice is mailed and/or emailed to the applicant/petitioner. You can use our current processing time to gauge when you can expect to receive a final decision.


If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results
listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current
processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.

*Current processing times can be found on the USCIS website at USCIS Home Page (http://www.uscis.gov) under Check Processing Times.

*** Please do not respond to this e-mail message.

Sincerely,

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)


==================================================
at 10:45 PM yesterday ( 11/07/2011) got text / email alert for card production.
==================================================


Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS


Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production

On November 7, 2011, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.


This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a "green card") or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, employment authorization document, travel document, or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.

If you do not receive your document, please contact our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

Thanks for the IV, Teddy and other brother / sisters and Guru's.

[lovenil]

I know this is probably not the best place to post but still i feel many people may have similar experience as my case.

My wife and myself has valid ( valid till 2013 dec) H4 and H1 stamped in our passport and our priority dates are Dec 05,2007 which would be hopefully current in December bulletin.

I asked my company HR that if file for AOS with AP/EAD in early december can we still travel to india in Middle of january eventhough AP may be most probably pending.

They replied saying I can travel with my H1-B but my wife can't . My wife has valid H4 and never used EAD/AP ( she nevere had it :)). Does this make sense? if H1 is valid than H4 should be too? isn't that the case?

Anyone has idea , weather one can travel on H4 while AP is pending?

Thanks for your inputs.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks Teddy.

Please update as soon as you get any info on cheques or receipts....

Regards.

My cheques have been encashed just saw them in clearing today morning. My attorney will be receiving the receipts; they are always very slow with things and things don’t come to me directly, I will let you and the group know as soon as I see further progress.

Good Morning and Thanks Teddy and other fellow brother and sisters.

Here is my information:

PD : July 23, 2007
I485 Receipt Date: 02 OCT 2007
Processed at NSC

==============================================
Yesterday at 9:00 PM (11/07/2011) got the text / email alert as follows:
==============================================

When I login to the USCIS site it was there on Decision Tab.

Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS

Your Case Status: Decision

On November 7, 2011, we mailed you a notice that we had registered this customer's new permanent resident status. Please follow any instructions on the notice. Your new permanent resident card should be mailed within 60 days following this registration or after you complete any ADIT processing referred to in the welcome notice, whichever is later. If you move before receiving your card, please call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.


During this step the formal decision (approved/denied) is written and the decision notice is mailed and/or emailed to the applicant/petitioner. You can use our current processing time to gauge when you can expect to receive a final decision.


If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results
listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current
processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.

*Current processing times can be found on the USCIS website at USCIS Home Page (http://www.uscis.gov) under Check Processing Times.

*** Please do not respond to this e-mail message.

Sincerely,

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)


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at 10:45 PM yesterday ( 11/07/2011) got text / email alert for card production.
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Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS


Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production

On November 7, 2011, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.


This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a "green card") or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, employment authorization document, travel document, or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.

If you do not receive your document, please contact our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

Thanks for the IV, Teddy and other brother / sisters and Guru's.

Many congratulations to you and your family. Thanks for sharing the good news with all of us. Enjoy green life.

[SGP]

I know this is probably not the best place to post but still i feel many people may have similar experience as my case.

My wife and myself has valid ( valid till 2013 dec) H4 and H1 stamped in our passport and our priority dates are Dec 05,2007 which would be hopefully current in December bulletin.

I asked my company HR that if file for AOS with AP/EAD in early december can we still travel to india in Middle of january eventhough AP may be most probably pending.

They replied saying I can travel with my H1-B but my wife can't . My wife has valid H4 and never used EAD/AP ( she nevere had it :)). Does this make sense? if H1 is valid than H4 should be too? isn't that the case?

Anyone has idea , weather one can travel on H4 while AP is pending?

Thanks for your inputs.

As long as she has a valid H4 stamping in her passport, it should not be an issue.

[hbk]

My cheques have been encashed just saw them in clearing today morning. My attorney will be receiving the receipts; they are always very slow with things and things don’t come to me directly, I will let you and the group know as soon as I see further progress.


Thanks for the update Teddy.
Do have any idea on which date USCIS received your applications ?
Looks like my applications received by USICS on Nov 4th.

Regards.

[TeddyKoochu]

Thanks for the update Teddy.
Do have any idea on which date USCIS received your applications ?
Looks like my applications received by USICS on Nov 4th.

Regards.

Nov 1st, till now only the ones filed on the 1st have seen check encashments or receipts.

[TeddyKoochu]

I know this is probably not the best place to post but still i feel many people may have similar experience as my case.

My wife and myself has valid ( valid till 2013 dec) H4 and H1 stamped in our passport and our priority dates are Dec 05,2007 which would be hopefully current in December bulletin.

I asked my company HR that if file for AOS with AP/EAD in early december can we still travel to india in Middle of january eventhough AP may be most probably pending.

They replied saying I can travel with my H1-B but my wife can't . My wife has valid H4 and never used EAD/AP ( she nevere had it :)). Does this make sense? if H1 is valid than H4 should be too? isn't that the case?

Anyone has idea , weather one can travel on H4 while AP is pending?

Thanks for your inputs.

AFAIK you and your wife should be good to travel since your visas are stamped as well no hassle of stamping. All you need to ensure that when filing is done you are in USA.

[akshaya10001]

Just Restrict the replies to the topic "EB2-EB3 Predictions (Rather Calculations II)". For Other things you can always start another thread. Also Don't be over emotional and respond to every response. Responding to Question not related to this thread encourages to post more Questions not related to thread.

[spulapa]

Just Restrict the replies to the topic "EB2-EB3 Predictions (Rather Calculations II)". For Other things you can always start another thread. Also Don't be over emotional and respond to every response. Responding to Question not related to this thread encourages to post more Questions not related to thread.

I totally agree with ya.

[furiouspride]

Just Restrict the replies to the topic "EB2-EB3 Predictions (Rather Calculations II)". For Other things you can always start another thread. Also Don't be over emotional and respond to every response. Responding to Question not related to this thread encourages to post more Questions not related to thread.
This thread has pretty much turned into 1-800-ASTROLOGY :D

[Mr. Brown]

just restrict the replies to the topic "eb2-eb3 predictions (rather calculations ii)". For other things you can always start another thread. Also don't be over emotional and respond to every response. Responding to question not related to this thread encourages to post more questions not related to thread.

+1

[Mr. Brown]

This thread has pretty much turned into 1-800-ASTROLOGY :D

Hilarious!

[Mr. Brown]

I know this is probably not the best place to post but still i feel many people may have similar experience as my case.

You are correct. This isn't the correct thread. So please post in the correct one or if you cannot find one then start a new one.

My wife and myself has valid ( valid till 2013 dec) H4 and H1 stamped in our passport and our priority dates are Dec 05,2007 which would be hopefully current in December bulletin.

I asked my company HR that if file for AOS with AP/EAD in early december can we still travel to india in Middle of january eventhough AP may be most probably pending.

They replied saying I can travel with my H1-B but my wife can't . My wife has valid H4 and never used EAD/AP ( she nevere had it :)). Does this make sense? if H1 is valid than H4 should be too? isn't that the case?

Anyone has idea , weather one can travel on H4 while AP is pending?

Thanks for your inputs.

[Mr. Brown]

Congratulations! & Thanks for letting us know.

Good Morning and Thanks Teddy and other fellow brother and sisters.

Here is my information:

PD : July 23, 2007
I485 Receipt Date: 02 OCT 2007
Processed at NSC

==============================================
Yesterday at 9:00 PM (11/07/2011) got the text / email alert as follows:
==============================================

When I login to the USCIS site it was there on Decision Tab.

Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS

Your Case Status: Decision

On November 7, 2011, we mailed you a notice that we had registered this customer's new permanent resident status. Please follow any instructions on the notice. Your new permanent resident card should be mailed within 60 days following this registration or after you complete any ADIT processing referred to in the welcome notice, whichever is later. If you move before receiving your card, please call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.


During this step the formal decision (approved/denied) is written and the decision notice is mailed and/or emailed to the applicant/petitioner. You can use our current processing time to gauge when you can expect to receive a final decision.


If you have questions or concerns about your application or the case status results
listed above, or if you have not received a decision from USCIS within the current
processing time listed*, please contact USCIS Customer Service at (800) 375-5283.

*Current processing times can be found on the USCIS website at USCIS Home Page (http://www.uscis.gov) under Check Processing Times.

*** Please do not respond to this e-mail message.

Sincerely,

The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS)


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at 10:45 PM yesterday ( 11/07/2011) got text / email alert for card production.
==================================================


Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS


Your Case Status: Card/ Document Production

On November 7, 2011, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service at 1-800-375-5283.


This step applies to applications that result in an applicant receiving a card (such as a "green card") or other document (such as a naturalization certificate, employment authorization document, travel document, or advance parole). Applications will be in this step from the time the order to produce the card/document is given until the card/document is produced and mailed to the applicant. You can expect to receive your card/document within 30 days of the approval of your application.

If you do not receive your document, please contact our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283.

Thanks for the IV, Teddy and other brother / sisters and Guru's.

[lovenil]

Then why people post their approval in this thread!!! it is not about calculation or prediction,isn't it?

please ask them to find correct thread.

[Mr. Brown]

Then why people post their approval in this thread!!! it is not about calculation or prediction,isn't it?

please ask them to find correct thread.

Easy ... it gives us an idea to "predict" what priority dates are getting approved.

Also, because we like to hear good news :-)

[Mr. Brown]

Well don't want to disclose "exact" situation on the discussion forum as its related to attorney side.

We both have same PD month i.e. Sep-07 so many congratulations to you also as you also filed AOS.

Regards.

Thanks!

[TeddyKoochu]

Friends lets be kind to all, sometimes people need answers to simple things. I agree that we should not deviate from the topic too much. Let people post their approvals here because it helps to capture a trend like for example all preadjudicated people are approved.

[mk26]

Options
1. I would rather say don't reply to unrelated questions than saying people to not ask unrelated qustions in this thread.
2. I don't see any harm if people are asking questions in this popular thread and getting their answers. sometime you don't get attention in new thread than this.:) so let be everybody happy whereevr they ask questions.

I prefer 2nd one.

[PrinceVA]

I had my Finger Printing today. I am one of those PWMBs.
How long does it is expected to take. EAD & AP should be in hand before the end of Dec.
Expecting dates not to move back July 2007, how long should I expect for a GC ?
Any calculation can guess that ?

[mzc123]

I had my Finger Printing today. I am one of those PWMBs.
How long does it is expected to take. EAD & AP should be in hand before the end of Dec.
Expecting dates not to move back July 2007, how long should I expect for a GC ?
Any calculation can guess that ?

PrinceVA, when did you file your AOS, early Oct, mid Oct or late Oct/later? And when did you receive the receipt notice? Any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

[abisen]

"Ditto"

They received on Nov 1st, Receipt Date Nov 3rd, I received the notice in mail Nov 8th.

[prmetta]

Congratulations! & Thanks for letting us know.
I posted the details emails for fellow members clarifications and calculations. Thanks for your blessings.

[soorigadu2003]

Greened on nov 8th....pd jul 23 07 eb2 Thanks to IV and Teddy. You rock.....

[jindhal]

Greened on nov 8th....pd feb 27 07 eb2 Thanks to IV and Teddy. You rock.....

[anemmani]

Demand data for Dec 2011 is now available on the State department website. Cumulative demand for EB2I prior to Jan 1st 2008 is 50.

[aarora1979]

Friends,

Just an update, I had sent my documents on Nov 2nd, and recevied by Dallas Office on Nov 3rd 10:30 AM. I just checked my bank account, and found that USCIS has done an EFT in the last hour. (I had sent Personal Checks)

Waiting on the receipts now :)

[harrydr]

Can someone please share the link for the demand data.

[doknek]

Demand data
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf

when is the vb coming out guys...

[TeddyKoochu]

Demand data for Dec 2011 is now available on the State department website. Cumulative demand for EB2I prior to Jan 1st 2008 is 50.

The demand data published is certainly excellent news. What it means is that all preadjudicated cases are completely taken care of. The PWMB cases as Shaumack has remarked may in a fair number of cases may never actually make it to the demand data, they will get approved as soon as they are adjudicated. we might start to see PWMB case approvals for the batch Apr 15th - Jul 15th by the end of this month and definitely by early next month. I sincerely hope that the news of 01-MAR-2008 turns out to be true.

[harrydr]

The ironic thing on the demand data is that the Demand for India is exactly 2X times China. I don't know if we these numbers are real or just a guesstimate from DOS.

[arun_ramani]

If demand is less than supply, should they not make it current ? Looks like it is ridiculously under subscribed. I think bulls need to take over from here.

[TeddyKoochu]

Greened on nov 8th....pd jul 23 07 eb2 Thanks to IV and Teddy. You rock.....

Greened on nov 8th....pd feb 27 07 eb2 Thanks to IV and Teddy. You rock.....

Congratulations to you and your families. Enjoy the green! Thanks for sharing with all of us.

[manchala]

The demand data published is certainly excellent news. What it means is that all preadjudicated cases are completely taken care of. The PWMB cases as Shaumack has remarked may in a fair number of cases may never actually make it to the demand data, they will get approved as soon as they are adjudicated. we might start to see PWMB case approvals for the batch Apr 15th - Jul 15th by the end of this month and definitely by early next month. I sincerely hope that the news of 01-MAR-2008 turns out to be true.

Teddy,

Dont they add Apr 15 to July 15 applications into this demand data?? Did we not have any applications? Inventory shows something different and demand data shows different.

http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Green%20Card/Green%20Card%20Through%20a%20Job/I-485%20Employment-Based%20Inventory%20Statistics/EB%20I-485%20Pending%20Inventory%20as%20of%20October%2001 %202011.pdf

[TeddyKoochu]

I had my Finger Printing today. I am one of those PWMBs.
How long does it is expected to take. EAD & AP should be in hand before the end of Dec.
Expecting dates not to move back July 2007, how long should I expect for a GC ?
Any calculation can guess that ?

All PWMB's who filed last month should see green starting end of Nov to end of Dec at the current rate. Don’t worry about EAD / AP. It all depends on CO continuously releasing numbers.

[TeddyKoochu]

Teddy,

Dont they add Apr 15 to July 15 applications into this demand data?? Did we not have any applications? Inventory shows something different and demand data shows different.

http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Green%20Card/Green%20Card%20Through%20a%20Job/I-485%20Employment-Based%20Inventory%20Statistics/EB%20I-485%20Pending%20Inventory%20as%20of%20October%2001 %202011.pdf

Inventory is a snapshot from 01-OCT so these cases were not there at that time. Currently these cases are not adjudicated but they could be approved as soon as they are and a fair number will therefore never show up on any demand data.

[vidyas_m]

If demand is less than supply, should they not make it current ? Looks like it is ridiculously under subscribed. I think bulls need to take over from here.

Hi Arun,

That demand is only until July 2007. USCIS has started taking in new demand post July '07 only recently since last month. So, those demand numbers will begin showing up in the subsequent visa bulletins.

[aarzoo]

Teddy,

You will also recieve the receipt notices. And if you are in a major metro area, as compared to your attorney office, you may receive them even earlier. The 485 receipt number is generally on the back of the cheque and if u applied for parole and EAD, they may be the next two following receipt numbers

[mk26]

All PWMB's who filed last month should see green starting end of Nov to end of Dec at the current rate. Don’t worry about EAD / AP. It all depends on CO continuously releasing numbers.
Teddy,
I filed in oct and my PD is may07 I am worried when to get my EAD/AP and now you saying that they will adjucate the cases in just 2 months and issue green card? that will be a surprise for me man.

[manchala]

Inventory is a snapshot from 01-OCT so these cases were not there at that time. Currently these cases are not adjudicated but they could be approved as soon as they are and a fair number will therefore never show up on any demand data.

Did not get you. Do we get only pre-adjudicated cases into demand data and all applications into inventory? Where do we have PWMD cases are they in Demand data or Inventory?

[TeddyKoochu]

Did not get you. Do we get only pre-adjudicated cases into demand data and all applications into inventory? Where do we have PWMD cases are they in Demand data or Inventory?

Do we get only pre-adjudicated cases into demand data and all applications into inventory - YES Additionally an cases approved are excluded

Where do we have PWMD cases are they in Demand data or Inventory? They are not in the demand data because they are not preadjudicated yet, not in the inventory because inventory date is before they were filed.

[arun_ramani]

So what data would they be using to move the dates? Why always this bias towards India and China without data and why do we have to always agree and accept the bias.

Either follow the law or show us the metrics that is used to move the dates.
Hi Arun,

That demand is only until July 2007. USCIS has started taking in new demand post July '07 only recently since last month. So, those demand numbers will begin showing up in the subsequent visa bulletins.