Good Consulting Companies??

[frustratingGC]

Looking for a good consulting employer, worried about pros and cons of consulting firms.

Desi third party consulting firms are flexible but expensive. American companies put restriction on visa and GC process. Consulting firm with mix of both would be great.

For the sake of myself and other guys looking out for employers, this thread could give a good idea and save lot of effect.

Consulting firm could do the following,
1) Hire H1b visa holder
2) Work on senior java/j2ee positions.
3) Prime vendor
4) Start GC process within 6 months after joining
5) Keep in payroll & h1b visa status even if out of assignment for 45 days.
6) Decent pay & benefits.

Share your thoughts, Appreciate your response.
:)

[gk_2000]

Does anyone know anything about IQ Tech pros (formerly Saga CS) ? They claim lot of big things and even have organized email campaign..

[reddyram]

some of the points you mention are in conflict and will never be found. Its like finding a woman ( esp desi ) from this generation who is :-
-- Intelligent
-- Good Looking
-- Has good character , Values and is committed to her partner...not a social or family parasite etc
If the 1st is there ...3rd is lacking ...or 2 is lacking......
So now coming to H1B companies -- there is NO such co. Long answer short. Depends on what you consider are your strengths.
If you are a person who is Smart talking - knows your stuff well - has a Masters from US - some kind of class - then you do not need these
2) Work on senior java/j2ee positions.
3) Prime vendor
and you can go for a small consulting company owned by your friend / relative / trustworthy person....but you have the fend for yourself ..and be aware of all H1B shortfalls and answer them yourself. In other words you control the show - good side and bad side.

if you are a person , who knows stuff but CANNOT communicate much or you do not want to have hassle of finding work yourself and always needed recruiter to fluff you up , then you need a bigger consulting firm .

The H1B laws today are just horrible thanks to the bad credit that companies left in the past . So NO company will go out of the way and sweep the floor for you - answering all RFEs unless they get a huge profit. A prime vendor is not focused on having H1B's up its sleeve because all it wants is Clients .. candidates will come to it automatically via sub contracting cos etc.

reg GC ....the chances of starting are more with the former than the latter type of company
regards these ..
5) Keep in payroll & h1b visa status even if out of assignment for 45 days.
6) Decent pay & benefits
if you are ok with ft sal in 50-60K range for a senior position , then it can afford else not poss.
its the grim reality. keep you expectations low.

[smuggymba]

Looking for a good consulting employer, worried about pros and cons of consulting firms.

Desi third party consulting firms are flexible but expensive. American companies put restriction on visa and GC process. Consulting firm with mix of both would be great.

For the sake of myself and other guys looking out for employers, this thread could give a good idea and save lot of effect.

Consulting firm could do the following,
1) Hire H1b visa holder
2) Work on senior java/j2ee positions.
3) Prime vendor
4) Start GC process within 6 months after joining
5) Keep in payroll & h1b visa status even if out of assignment for 45 days.
6) Decent pay & benefits.

Share your thoughts, Appreciate your response.
:)

Tekstorm
Hitachi
Judge Group
Robert Half (not good with H1 I guess but worth trying)

not desi, not deloitte, IBM...kuch khatta kuch meetha.:D

[ramreddy]

kuck khatta kuch mita ..kuch kadwaa ....yeah ..betcha
Judge Group
Deliotte
Robert 1/2
Will not sponsor H1B and if they do and you are out of project ..then be prepared to pack ur bags .... also they will almost never process GC and that too in 6 months...

[smuggymba]

kuck khatta kuch mita ..kuch kadwaa ....yeah ..betcha
Judge Group
Deliotte
Robert 1/2
Will not sponsor H1B and if they do and you are out of project ..then be prepared to pack ur bags .... also they will almost never process GC and that too in 6 months...



robert half...not good as already mentioned

deloitte - if they need you, they will

Judge - my friend has his processed, negotiate while joining

[javadeveloper]

How about tek systems,sogeti,modis,strategic staffing solutions,collabera?

[snathan]

some of the points you mention are in conflict and will never be found. Its like finding a woman ( esp desi ) from this generation who is :-
-- Intelligent
-- Good Looking
-- Has good character , Values and is committed to her partner...not a social or family parasite etcIf the 1st is there ...3rd is lacking ...or 2 is lacking......
So now coming to H1B companies -- there is NO such co. Long answer short. Depends on what you consider are your strengths.
If you are a person who is Smart talking - knows your stuff well - has a Masters from US - some kind of class - then you do not need these
2) Work on senior java/j2ee positions.
3) Prime vendor
and you can go for a small consulting company owned by your friend / relative / trustworthy person....but you have the fend for yourself ..and be aware of all H1B shortfalls and answer them yourself. In other words you control the show - good side and bad side.

if you are a person , who knows stuff but CANNOT communicate much or you do not want to have hassle of finding work yourself and always needed recruiter to fluff you up , then you need a bigger consulting firm .

The H1B laws today are just horrible thanks to the bad credit that companies left in the past . So NO company will go out of the way and sweep the floor for you - answering all RFEs unless they get a huge profit. A prime vendor is not focused on having H1B's up its sleeve because all it wants is Clients .. candidates will come to it automatically via sub contracting cos etc.

reg GC ....the chances of starting are more with the former than the latter type of company
regards these ..
5) Keep in payroll & h1b visa status even if out of assignment for 45 days.
6) Decent pay & benefits
if you are ok with ft sal in 50-60K range for a senior position , then it can afford else not poss.
its the grim reality. keep you expectations low.


If all three are there, she wont bother to consider/look at you....:D

[ramreddy]

the analogy wasn't meant for personal appeal..it was just an analogy for consulting companies.so lets just stick to the point ok.....but I take it like this ..." if she wont bother to come to me .. I take it 1 of the three is lacking ....def for sure and I know I AM NOT alone in this exp.....so the precedent here is already mentioned ....no need to double guess if the chicken or the egg came first...haha :rolleyes:

[sameer2730]

If all three are there, she wont bother to consider/look at you....:D

LOL Good one! At least we know his wife does not have one or more of those three qualities. Plz Plz tell us which ones?

[sameer2730]

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[sameer2730]

Tekstorm
Hitachi
Judge Group
Robert Half (not good with H1 I guess but worth trying)

not desi, not deloitte, IBM...kuch khatta kuch meetha.:D

Why not Deloitte boss? They tolerate you being on bench for a long time.

[reddyram]

the analogy wasn't meant for personal appeal..it was just an analogy for consulting companies.so lets just stick to the point ok.....but I take it like this ..." if she wont bother to come to me .. I take it 1 of the three is lacking ....def for sure and I know I AM NOT alone in this exp.....so the precedent here is already mentioned ....no need to double guess if the chicken or the egg came first...haha

LOL Good one! At least we know his wife does not have one or more of those three qualities. Plz Plz tell us which ones?






1 is a problem not with my wife but with so many here ....NO WONDER they cant find a job....your ( sameer and the like ) programming skills are demented...
"she wont bother to come to me .. I take it 1 of the three is lacking".==>es if she came to me , she has to have these in some good proportion .so .....how would that reason to this conclusion ...."LOL Good one! At least we know his wife does not have one or more of those three qualities. Plz Plz tell us which ones"........? what work you did before you came to America....peon / clerk / bench warming officer in govt ..? where did you get your degree ......UP.....bihar or some sheikh mohammed fakir university ...sorry dude..there are no reservations here in United States ... so people like Sameer will always be asking Questions here in forums like this .....
..again that proves .....the '1' problem is not a wife problem....it is so many people's problem... .and for sure not mine ...I have a job since 5+ years...and no I dont work like so many Sameers in gas station or motel or full time Sameer like janitor in desi restaurant ....I actually do some programming than bench warming, which is why I find that logic above' buggy' if a <> b then a == c ? . does'nt make sense to me..... :D
I had hoped this would be discussion for best char# of H1B companies to work for ...so It would be good if we keep that in focus and not digress....again that analogy wasn't meant to be taken personally. ...but if you felt bad....its your own internal guilt.....time to see some priest and confess......:D

[reddyram]

Why not Deloitte boss? They tolerate you being on bench for a long time.

I had the impression that cos like Deloitte have HR depts that have to report stuff , so they are policy oriented when it comes to GC or allowing you on bench. Maybe a month at the most, then on you have a job or return ticket to India .
BUT ....:D....if I am saying this not from personal exp and if Sameer said that above , it is likely more authentic because it really is a bench warmers exp. So take Sameer before me.

[madhu345]

Be aware with Big Companies....HR won't bend on policies, they don't understand/consider individuals pain. I been working in one of the big company, with well paid job and perks but still on H1b for past 12 years:), where as all my friends came her along with me are now US Citizens and returning home.

[sameer2730]

if a <> b then a == c


Mr Reddy,

The correct syntax in most mature languages (for real people) is != . <> is classic VBA style. Is that what you do? Nothing wrong with it you know. Just curious.:D

Yours Truly and With Warmest Regards,
Sameer

[reddyram]

Mr Reddy,

The correct syntax in most mature languages (for real people) is != . <> is classic VBA style. Is that what you do? Nothing wrong with it you know. Just curious.:D

Yours Truly and With Warmest Regards,
Sameer

Yeah != or <> ...who cares for syntax ...I look at the logic not the syntax :) and no <> is != in many other milieus other than VB and No I dont do VB all times ...he he ....and if I did ..whats wrong....? its the end product application delivery and efficiency that matters not what code made the product work ......

[ramreddy]

Be aware with Big Companies....HR won't bend on policies, they don't understand/consider individuals pain. I been working in one of the big company, with well paid job and perks but still on H1b for past 12 years:), where as all my friends came her along with me are now US Citizens and returning home.

I tend to agree to Madhu . They are least bothered in bending themselves to you and they tend to to keep you based on the initial project that was found and if that project needs you more than 5 years , they will move forward for GC work at the great pace . If that assignment gets over , and you tell them you can get another one..they will say we dont work that way and ask you to go back
CSC one is classic e..g.

[sameer2730]

Yeah != or <> ...who cares for syntax ...I look at the logic not the syntax :) and no <> is != in many other milieus other than VB and No I dont do VB all times ...he he ....and if I did ..whats wrong....? its the end product application delivery and efficiency that matters not what code made the product work ......



Yes ofcourse "Architecture Astronaut (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html)"!!

[smuggymba]

Looking for a good consulting employer, worried about pros and cons of consulting firms.

Desi third party consulting firms are flexible but expensive. American companies put restriction on visa and GC process. Consulting firm with mix of both would be great.

For the sake of myself and other guys looking out for employers, this thread could give a good idea and save lot of effect.

Consulting firm could do the following,
1) Hire H1b visa holder
2) Work on senior java/j2ee positions.
3) Prime vendor
4) Start GC process within 6 months after joining
5) Keep in payroll & h1b visa status even if out of assignment for 45 days.
6) Decent pay & benefits.

Share your thoughts, Appreciate your response.
:)

Why don't you join Infosys as apply in EB1 as a sr software engg. I don't know what's with Infy but they get these EB1 petitions approved. Earlier it was for PM's, now a sr consultant can get through with no problems.

[ronhira]

there r no "good" consulting companies.... period

[snathan]

Why don't you join Infosys as apply in EB1 as a sr software engg. I don't know what's with Infy but they get these EB1 petitions approved. Earlier it was for PM's, now a sr consultant can get through with no problems.

Are you kidding me...how come they are getting through EB1 for software engg...?

[reddyram]

Why don't you join Infosys as apply in EB1 as a sr software engg. I don't know what's with Infy but they get these EB1 petitions approved. Earlier it was for PM's, now a sr consultant can get through with no problems.

Everything comes with a cost tag and a risk.
Earlier those EB1's got approved . Now there are too many EB1 apps coming from these MNC's that they are getting > 70% rejection rate as of Feb 2011. Infosys / CSC / Accenture are famous examples of EB1 Rejects. Now the procedural aspect has just gotten worse. There is 99% RFE rate for any EB1 Petition and the company has to be steadfast enough to support the RFE. So if they think the' Manager' or consultant will get them that much business in future , they will answer those with the diligence or else it just sits aside as a cold file. Once there is RFE then companies are shy in getting more names to apply.
Before these companies ever think of doing yur EB1 - they have to make sure you work with the offshore in PM Capacity for 5+ years and get them the revenue and business needed. After 5 years + time they should be convinced you can go there and get them Projects ..
That is on the no so good side of things and their quotas are getting exhausted from many people already creeping out here on EB1. Needless to say most of them are benchwarmers who use some sort of "back hand" on the local HR dept and get them to do all the paper work . I have seen 1 fellow who came here like that and right now he is working in gas station of this brother in law. The HR was his cousin.

[smuggymba]

Are you kidding me...how come they are getting through EB1 for software engg...?

This is exactly what I'll be doing this weekend. When I heard this yesterday I was shocked but I can't trust hearsay so I talked to the persons manager and he confirmed that the "said person" received his GC last month.

So, one this is sure - that "said person" has a GC as per the HR records. How he got it - whether Infy applied or some desi company or some other magic, I need to find out. I'll report this thing If there is a slight confirmation that Infy applied. But since this "said person" has now joined a new US comp (which doesn't do H1s at all) using his GC -I'm confused. Need to get to the bottom. I already have 100% confirmation on 2 other PM's in the same project. Same job as me - I'm the US comp FTE with EB2, Infy folks all EB1:D:mad::confused: with same job profile and are slowly moving on.

[reddyram]

Yes ofcourse "Architecture Astronaut (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html)"!!


Its better to be an Architect Astronaut of whatever you want to call me ....rather than write "code full of craters" like this one a!=b then a=c .... and then you got catch me on the syntax...? ... because you have nothing else better to talk about ..hey, before you hit the keyboard with code..dont you write a logical pseudo-code ..mentally at least......duhh......brrrrr .. keep warming that bench ...... :D

[snathan]

This is exactly what I'll be doing this weekend. When I heard this yesterday I was shocked but I can't trust hearsay so I talked to the persons manager and he confirmed that the "said person" received his GC last month.

So, one this is sure - that "said person" has a GC as per the HR records. How he got it - whether Infy applied or some desi company or some other magic, I need to find out. I'll report this thing If there is a slight confirmation that Infy applied. But since this "said person" has now joined a new US comp (which doesn't do H1s at all) using his GC -I'm confused. Need to get to the bottom. I already have 100% confirmation on 2 other PM's in the same project. Same job as me - I'm the US comp FTE with EB2, Infy folks all EB1:D:mad::confused: with same job profile and are slowly moving on.

I am sure, you must know what to do in case of fraud...check my signature.

[reddyram]

This is exactly what I'll be doing this weekend. When I heard this yesterday I was shocked but I can't trust hearsay so I talked to the persons manager and he confirmed that the "said person" received his GC last month.

So, one this is sure - that "said person" has a GC as per the HR records. How he got it - whether Infy applied or some desi company or some other magic, I need to find out. I'll report this thing If there is a slight confirmation that Infy applied. But since this "said person" has now joined a new US comp (which doesn't do H1s at all) using his GC -I'm confused. Need to get to the bottom. I already have 100% confirmation on 2 other PM's in the same project. Same job as me - I'm the US comp FTE with EB2, Infy folks all EB1:D:mad::confused: with same job profile and are slowly moving on.

Its an old word in the world on desi politics , and in the desi dirty filthy political language called Hyderabadi urdu - its called - See-faar-reesh == "Influence" ....
anyways ....you are hoping against hope... even this happened as an act of omission... Infi will do everything it can to cover it up .It will never reveal the true records and that fellow is now a free bird for practical purposes , because they do not want their name tarnished. They are already very bitterly embroiled over visa abuse with an American PM blowing whistle over B1 abuse. Here ..I am querying it for you..

Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jack+palmer+infosys)

[smuggymba]

Its an old word in the world on desi politics , and in the desi dirty filthy political language called Hyderabadi urdu - its called - See-faar-reesh == "Influence" ....
anyways ....you are hoping against hope... even this happened as an act of omission... Infi will do everything it can to cover it up .It will never reveal the true records and that fellow is now a free bird for practical purposes , because they do not want their name tarnished. They are already very bitterly embroiled over visa abuse with an American PM blowing whistle over B1 abuse. Here ..I am querying it for you..

Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jack+palmer+infosys)




Infy B1 abuse has always been in limelight, it's their EB1 abuse that needs to be brought into focus.

Snathan - Can we complain/report even if we don't have credible evidence and only hearsay and a few confirmations.

[snathan]

Infy B1 abuse has always been in limelight, it's their EB1 abuse that needs to be brought into focus.

Snathan - Can we complain/report even if we don't have credible evidence and only hearsay and a few confirmations.

No...you can not file complaint based on hearsay.

[smuggymba]

No...you can not file complaint based on hearsay.

That's the whole problem. There are 4 ppl inlcluding the "said person" telling everyone about his GC and he is a sr. consultant - that's all.

I can't ask for this documents, verify what he is saying and then file a complaint.

[rbusgc]

I personally know somebody with NO team responsibility getting GC in EB1 through Wipro.. only thing is that he has been with them for 10+ years . Don't be surprised if the Infy story turns out to be true.

[snathan]

I personally know a Data Analyst (Data Analyst ... with NO team lead/manager responsibility) getting GC in EB1 through Wipro.. only thing is that he is has been with them for 10+ years and moved to L1A after his 6 years in H1B. During the L1A petition itself Wipro cooked up the entire eligibility by creating a fictitious team around him.. made a reporting list of other Wipro team members from different teams in the same client site reporting to him.. he still works as a individual contributor reporting to a client manager.
Don't be surprised if this turns out to be true (I didn't complain to authorities as I know this person and his family well and didnt want them to suffer).

:(

So you are helping in the fraud...? If your acquaintance is committing the fraud its right otherwise it’s wrong. You are equally responsible in this crime.

[snathan]

That's the whole problem. There are 4 ppl inlcluding the "said person" telling everyone about his GC and he is a sr. consultant - that's all.

I can't ask for this documents, verify what he is saying and then file a complaint.

If you reasonably believe he is committing a fraud, you should complaint. You can tell the same thing to the authorities

[thomachan72]

LOL Good one! At least we know his wife does not have one or more of those three qualities. Plz Plz tell us which ones?

Gosh sure reddyram is injured by the fast pace of snathan and sameer:D:D

[reddyram]

Gosh sure reddyram is injured by the fast pace of snathan and sameer:D:D

Seriously ? if you know how to read replies ..... you will find them all there..I am not injured ...merely entertained by their thoughtful replies..... ...:D like this one...if it was meant to sound like it does now ..he he he :D..

[reddyram]

I personally know somebody with NO team responsibility getting GC in EB1 through Wipro.. only thing is that he has been with them for 10+ years . Don't be surprised if the Infy story turns out to be true.

It will be v difficult to PROVE this kind of fraud ..for B1..there was documentary evidence that the person in question was working ...coding stuff etc...that negotiating..unless there is some whistle blower who makes news... From the USCIS point of view these EB1 people are LOT smaller in # that B1 catch , so not sure if they will be just as sensitive to EB1...iEB1 bias and injustice seems to hit you more than USCIS ...and for action it should be the other way around

[pranavgandhi]

Your duty is to report not to prove. It's Desi Big fat guy's job to prove. Just give name of beneficier & company name with fraud that you are suspecting. Rest authorities will do their job.

[reddyram]

Your duty is to report not to prove. It's Desi Big fat guy's job to prove. Just give name of beneficier & company name with fraud that you are suspecting. Rest authorities will do their job.

BOMK - the companies that abuse EB1 in the descending order of their notoriety : -

WIPRO - #1 in Visa / EB1 Abuse
cognizant #2 in EB1 category at least
Infosys # 3 EB1
and the rest follow...

WIPRO 's main office in N America is not in US but Canada. They think they can do anything and just get away with it.

[sameer2730]

Seriously ? if you know how to read replies ..... you will find them all there..I am not injured ...merely entertained by their thoughtful replies..... ...:D like this one...if it was meant to sound like it does now ..he he he :D..

Are you trying to copy ronhira..... or is that your own style. Well, at-least you are coherent today. The last time I assumed that you must been inebriated ( intoxicated - in case your english is not as good as your ability to yell incoherently). How many years you said you are working in the US - 5 years. Ohhhh!! You were in your diapers when I started working in this field. Anyways I need some entertainment-hence I am instigating you. You see I think you are so dense that I can say this to you and yet have you respond in you classic drunken manner LOL.

[madhu345]

BOMK - the companies that abuse EB1 in the descending order of their notoriety : -

WIPRO - #1 in Visa / EB1 Abuse
cognizant #2 in EB1 category at least
Infosys # 3 EB1
and the rest follow...

WIPRO 's main office in N America is not in US but Canada. They think they can do anything and just get away with it.


Wipro US head quarters is in Mountain View CA. The Opened near shore location in Windsor Canada just to Cater Big3 Automotive Business in early 2000's, I don't think now that exists either.

[vishwak]

robert half...not good as already mentioned

deloitte - if they need you, they will

Judge - my friend has his processed, negotiate while joining

I agree with you.

If you are on EAD or GC you can join Deloitte. as smuggymba said, they will use you when needed.

Robert Half and Judge group are not good companies. Never joing them.

I know Ajilon also does H1B's, but you need to be carefull as they do have very specific clients where contract goes for years like Traget etc.