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rb_248
01-15-2009, 08:19 AM
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090080116&ch=1/15/2009%202:59:00%20PM

gapala
01-15-2009, 09:54 AM
This country is becoming more and more dangerous for legal immigrants. We pray to almighty for peace and speedy recovery of the ailing family of deseased, living in India.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3982065.cms

sledge_hammer
01-15-2009, 10:11 AM
What does that have to do with the price of rice in China????????????

An Indian national was robbed and in the process was shot and killed. What has that got to do with him being a legal immigrant? Would the thugs have spared him had he been "illegal" or a "citizen"?

Think before you start typing...

This country is becoming more and more dangerous for legal immigrants. We pray to almighty for peace and speedy recovery of the ailing family of deseased, living in India.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3982065.cms

javadeveloper
01-15-2009, 10:42 AM
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090080116&ch=1/15/2009%202:59:00%20PM

I heard from some of my friends that places like Detroit downtown,Arkansas,St.Louis,Tennessee, Louisiana are deadly dangerous.How far this is true?

javadeveloper
01-15-2009, 10:52 AM
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0347.htm

gapala
01-15-2009, 11:00 AM
What does that have to do with the price of rice in China????????????
...

:D :D :D Dude, There has been several incidents in past 1 year enough so you can draw a pattern. Do not act in ignorance. We have to pay attention to happenings around us and be cautious of the surroundings.

chanduv23
01-15-2009, 11:05 AM
:D :D :D Dude, There has been several incidents in past 1 year enough so you can draw a pattern. Do not act in ignorance. We have to pay attention to happenings around us and be cautious of the surroundings.

I agree - these are things that have to be taken very seriously.

I am also hearing that desi houses are being targeted in New Jersey as ZDesis have jewelery in houses.

h1techSlave
01-15-2009, 11:11 AM
so the thugs are after gold, not after desis per say. If whites or blacks had gold in their homes, the thugs would have attacked them also.

I agree - these are things that have to be taken very seriously.

I am also hearing that desi houses are being targeted in New Jersey as ZDesis have jewelery in houses.

LostInGCProcess
01-15-2009, 11:11 AM
My prayers are with the family members.

let me quote from the news article:

"He was profusely bleeding and was rushed to a hospital but he succumbed to the injuries," said Murthy.

The motive behind the killing is not known but Murthy, an official of the state-owned Bharast Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL), quoted Vishal's friends as saying that some African Americans shot him after an altercation.

It appears that it might have been a robbery. And I feel the hospital did not do much to save his life. Since he was shot in the leg (the bullet might have hit the main artery) its still possible to stop the bleeding. I personally feel he could have been saved, unless we know the full story.

I feel so sorry for the poor guy and their family. After all the hard work in life, he didn't deserve to die like this.

Folks, please be extra cautious when you get into in your car.

1) Always check the rear seat before getting in your car. A crook might be hiding there.

2) When you get inside a car that is parked in a building ( with insufficient lighting or no people around), immediately lock the door. Thats the first thing you have to do, and then arrange the shopping bag or item that are in your hand.

3) If some stranger is approaching you, be cautious, no matter how 'friendly' he looks. Think fast and look for exit signs and plan an exit run, should the need arise.

4) I read long time ago, if in the worst case, say a carjacker who gained access inside your car and hiding in the back seat. And if you have not noticed anything and you just started the vehicle and are about to go, he puts a knife of gun and asks directs you to drive his way, then, JUST SPEED UP STRAIGHT AND HIT THE WALL OR PILAR AS FAST AS YOU CAN. The air bag would protect you after the collision, but the passenger(carjacker) would be thrown out or would have sever body injuries. You would have enough time to escape with minor injuries.

5) Take precautions and don't loiter in areas that you not familiar with.

Be safe, folks!!!

LostInGCProcess
01-15-2009, 11:20 AM
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0347.htm



Could you please edit your post so that it does not take up 10 pages space of may be 10 -15 lines of information?

javadeveloper
01-15-2009, 11:29 AM
Could you please edit your post so that it does not take up 10 pages space of may be 10 -15 lines of information?

Thanks for rating.Realized & Edited at 12.20(while you are writing your post)

sanju
01-15-2009, 11:36 AM
I agree - these are things that have to be taken very seriously.

I am also hearing that desi houses are being targeted in New Jersey as ZDesis have jewelery in houses.

Akshay was one of us and I feel saddened to read this news.

However, this violent act could possibly be a sign of tough economy. Although, the problem is, any attack on an "India" immigrant is covered by stupid of all NDTV and times of Iindia et al. How many people died in India because of violence yesterday in India? Anybody knows that number? Anybody? NDTV? TOI? None. Noe one cares. The United Stupid of the Media don't care and don't cover that news. NDTV is just trying to get more people to click on their webiste and read their news. And people people will fall in that trap if the headline reads like 'Indian Technie was killed in a violent attack'. People from the subcontinent will then click on the news.

The reality is, if you do math, and find out the % of population of "Legal Immigrants" if that is your concern, the crime on "Legal Immigrants" is lesser as compared to the crime involving attacks on natives. If your concern is that crime on "Indian Techie", then you can do the math and find out the % of population of "Indian Technie" to the other demography of the population, the crime on "Indian Techie" is less as compared to the crime involving attacks on any other demography. So this "news" style is flawed and "educated" people could use caution when subscribing to the conclusion of the news artiles we read, just as we should use caution reading any religious book. This cautionary practice of not subscribing to a viewpoint, just because it showed up in the newspaper or because it is written in a "book" by someone in the past, in my opinion differentiates between "an educated who went to school" and "an uneducated who went to school".

The reason for my writing this is, very soon you will see an article on NDTV with the deadlines something like - "200% increase in the crime against Indian techie" because last year 2 Indian techies died and this year that number jumped to 4. And everyone will read that news formulating an opinion that India techies are slaughtered on the streets of AR, and some will say AR and detriot is a very dangerous place to visit. And such opinion is as wrong as the opinion which suggests other for not going to Mumbai because there was a terrorist attack in Mumbai last November.

We should use caution with falling in the trap of the reporter/news media and not perceive the news what the news media wants us to understand, and maybe treat the news just the way the news is. That's all.


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NKR
01-15-2009, 11:41 AM
Sanju, I agree. One of the news papers went a step further and their headline read "Satyam's employee shot dead in US". Shameless people, they are trying to cash in on this incident by linking with another sensational incident...

Saralayar
01-15-2009, 11:43 AM
I heard from some of my friends that places like Detroit downtown,Arkansas,St.Louis,Tennessee, Louisiana are deadly dangerous.How far this is true?
Recently I met one friend. He was visiting his friend for vacation in New Orelans. When he was washing his hands in the rest room (in a shopping complex or Mall), suddenly he saw 3 or 4 guys surrounding him, hit him and took away his vallet and cell phone. Within a short time his credit card was used for a huge money around $2000. He was hit so bad that his nose bones broke into pieces and he has metal installed now for him to breath properly. I am not sure if this is due to bad economy or enemity over immigrants.

hpandey
01-15-2009, 11:52 AM
Recently I met one friend. He was visiting his friend for vacation in New Orelans. When he was washing his hands in the rest room (in a shopping complex or Mall), suddenly he saw 3 or 4 guys surrounding him, hit him and took away his vallet and cell phone. Within a short time his credit card was used for a huge money around $2000. He was hit so bad that his nose bones broke into pieces and he has metal installed now for him to breath properly. I am not sure if this is due to bad economy or enemity over immigrants.

New Orleans was already in a bad shape due to Hurricane Katrina. Crime there is very high after what it went through. Anyway all these attacks have more to do with robbery ( or altercations ) rather than legal immigration attacks. The attackers don't care while attacking you whether you are here legally or illegally.

Sanju said the exact right thing. No need to be paranoid.

americandesi
01-15-2009, 12:10 PM
My prayers are with the family members.

let me quote from the news article:



It appears that it might have been a robbery. And I feel the hospital did not do much to save his life. Since he was shot in the leg (the bullet might have hit the main artery) its still possible to stop the bleeding. I personally feel he could have been saved, unless we know the full story.

I feel so sorry for the poor guy and their family. After all the hard work in life, he didn't deserve to die like this.

Folks, please be extra cautious when you get into in your car.

1) Always check the rear seat before getting in your car. A crook might be hiding there.

2) When you get inside a car that is parked in a building ( with insufficient lighting or no people around), immediately lock the door. Thats the first thing you have to do, and then arrange the shopping bag or item that are in your hand.

3) If some stranger is approaching you, be cautious, no matter how 'friendly' he looks. Think fast and look for exit signs and plan an exit run, should the need arise.

4) I read long time ago, if in the worst case, say a carjacker who gained access inside your car and hiding in the back seat. And if you have not noticed anything and you just started the vehicle and are about to go, he puts a knife of gun and asks directs you to drive his way, then, JUST SPEED UP STRAIGHT AND HIT THE WALL OR PILAR AS FAST AS YOU CAN. The air bag would protect you after the collision, but the passenger(carjacker) would be thrown out or would have sever body injuries. You would have enough time to escape with minor injuries.

5) Take precautions and don't loiter in areas that you not familiar with.

Be safe, folks!!!

Dude, are you serious about some of your suggestions? Do you watch too many action/scary movies? Most car’s driven by desi’s (Toyota’s/Honda’s) don’t even have enough leg room; leave alone a man hiding in the rear seat of the car.

When there are so many luxury cars out there, why would anyone even to try to carjack our rundown cars? Even if a thief gains access to your car, why would he hide in the rear seat and wait for you, unless you’re a hot looking babe.

Why don’t you go further and suggest that we need to check our bathrooms before entering cuz a psycho might be lying-in wait to pounce upon us while taking a shower.

Your suggestion of hitting the car on a wall or pillar to avoid a carjacker is the last straw to put everyone’s lives in danger.

Most of these incidents are straight forward. The bad guy asks for money, the good guy refuses or tries to put up a fight and gets shot. When you’re faced with a mugger/carjacker, always comply with their demands and leave quickly. That’s it.

I agree, we need to be cautious of the surroundings. But not to the paranoid level of checking out every hiding place or hitting the car on a wall/pillar.

h1techSlave
01-15-2009, 12:14 PM
I have to respectfully disagree with the point 4 you have mentioned.

If a thug is attacking you, it is best to just obey what ever he is demanding. Under no circumstances, try to outsmart him. Us trying to outsmart a thug during a robbery will be like the thug trying to outsmart us in computer programming.

If a thug wants the car, just give him the keys and walk away. Insurance will pay us the price of the car - deductible. The same amount we will get, if we take our chance and destroy the car trying to outsmart the guy. And who knows, may be the 'thug' is a cousin of yours trying a prank on you. And in the dark, you could not really see his face.

Robbers charging your credit card is no big deal either. There are federal laws protecting us on incorrect credit card charges. Would you want to risk your life for just $50?

My prayers are with the family members.

let me quote from the news article:



It appears that it might have been a robbery. And I feel the hospital did not do much to save his life. Since he was shot in the leg (the bullet might have hit the main artery) its still possible to stop the bleeding. I personally feel he could have been saved, unless we know the full story.

I feel so sorry for the poor guy and their family. After all the hard work in life, he didn't deserve to die like this.

Folks, please be extra cautious when you get into in your car.

1) Always check the rear seat before getting in your car. A crook might be hiding there.

2) When you get inside a car that is parked in a building ( with insufficient lighting or no people around), immediately lock the door. Thats the first thing you have to do, and then arrange the shopping bag or item that are in your hand.

3) If some stranger is approaching you, be cautious, no matter how 'friendly' he looks. Think fast and look for exit signs and plan an exit run, should the need arise.

4) I read long time ago, if in the worst case, say a carjacker who gained access inside your car and hiding in the back seat. And if you have not noticed anything and you just started the vehicle and are about to go, he puts a knife of gun and asks directs you to drive his way, then, JUST SPEED UP STRAIGHT AND HIT THE WALL OR PILAR AS FAST AS YOU CAN. The air bag would protect you after the collision, but the passenger(carjacker) would be thrown out or would have sever body injuries. You would have enough time to escape with minor injuries.

5) Take precautions and don't loiter in areas that you not familiar with.

Be safe, folks!!!

belmontboy
01-15-2009, 12:15 PM
I heard from some of my friends that places like Detroit downtown,Arkansas,St.Louis,Tennessee, Louisiana are deadly dangerous.How far this is true?

my friend, pretty much every place in US in unsafe.

from the news: "The motive behind the killing is not known but Murthy, an official of the state-owned Bharast Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL), quoted Vishal's friends as saying that some African Americans shot him after an altercation. "

Not to disrespect the read, but people should realize what they are getting into before they get into arguments or brawl. This is not India.

h1techSlave
01-15-2009, 12:20 PM
In India, the govt. collaborates with the criminals to kill the citizens.
my friend, pretty much every place in US in unsafe.

from the news: "The motive behind the killing is not known but Murthy, an official of the state-owned Bharast Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL), quoted Vishal's friends as saying that some African Americans shot him after an altercation. "

Not to disrespect the read, but people should realize what they are getting into before they get into arguments or brawl. This is not India.

sanju
01-15-2009, 12:27 PM
In India, the govt. collaborates with the criminals to kill the citizens.

And the next thing you will say is - and those citizens killed are from a specific minority and Hindus are killing Muslims and India is evil and blah blah blah blah..... Is that all?

What would it take for you to talk sense here? Just say it.



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sledge_hammer
01-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Yes, exactly! One has to be cautious about his/her surroundings.

I would be as cautious in NYC as I would be in Mumbai, since my adopted town now, and my hometown in India are both not NYC or Mumbai! If I venture out into DC, I would be more cautious than I would be if I went out to buy milk in the 'burbs of NOVA where I live!

>>>>>>>Do not act in ignorance
What part of my post makes you think I am acting in ignorance?


What is your point??????????? What does the killing have anything to do with being a "legal immigrant" in this country?

:D :D :D Dude, There has been several incidents in past 1 year enough so you can draw a pattern. Do not act in ignorance. We have to pay attention to happenings around us and be cautious of the surroundings.

meridiani.planum
01-15-2009, 12:57 PM
my friend, pretty much every place in US in unsafe.

from the news: "The motive behind the killing is not known but Murthy, an official of the state-owned Bharast Sanchar Nigam Limited (BSNL), quoted Vishal's friends as saying that some African Americans shot him after an altercation. "

Not to disrespect the read, but people should realize what they are getting into before they get into arguments or brawl. This is not India.

yeah.. I was also thinking about this recently. In India if you get into a scrape its a punch (or two, or three) and people part ways. Here its likely (depending on where you are) the other person will draw a gun.

I tried to apply for a firearm license, but atleast in CA apparently they allow only citizens and permanent residents to apply for one. That sucks. For tax purposes I am a 'permanent resident', but not if I want a firearm to protect my family. The 2nd amendment applies only to citizens!!

So another reason to keep looking at the visa bulletins now. Once i get a GC I buy a house and get a gun. The american dream. ;-)

sledge_hammer
01-15-2009, 12:57 PM
Any link between being a "legal immigrant" and getting jumped by a bunch of thugs and being killed while trying to resist?

I agree - these are things that have to be taken very seriously.

I am also hearing that desi houses are being targeted in New Jersey as ZDesis have jewelery in houses.

sanju
01-15-2009, 01:21 PM
yeah.. So another reason to keep looking at the visa bulletins now. Once i get a GC I buy a house and get a gun. The american dream. ;-)

Thats my kind of dream. Just one addition to my list of things to do upon receiving my GC.

I will buy a house, get a gun and JOIN A LOCAL RELIGIOUS PLACE and choose my lord and savior. Hey, I want a passport to the heaven from here, I don't want to stand in green card line of heaven or go to hell.

BTW, move over here to WA state and you can buy a gun.


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arian2002
01-15-2009, 01:22 PM
Please never ever try to argue or act smart in front of a thug/carjacker/burglar. Most of the time these guys are high on weeds and stuff like that and they will not hesistate to shoot at the slightest resistance. It is better to part with whatever cash, jewellery you have then get shot and die or suffer disability for life.

rb_248
01-15-2009, 01:33 PM
The pattern of these killings is so strange that most of the people that got killed are from AP.

My friends from AP, Be careful. They are coming after you :)

sledge_hammer
01-15-2009, 01:43 PM
Could it just be because there are a lot of immigrants from that state in India?

The pattern of these killings is so strange that most of the people that got killed are from AP.

My friends from AP, Be careful. They are coming after you :)

dionysus
01-15-2009, 01:58 PM
Good! one extra GC slot open. :cool:

As you drown me in a flood of red, remember, dark humor is what keeps me going through this GC long march of death. :)

ashkam
01-15-2009, 02:09 PM
Sledge_hammer, sanju and hpandey appear to be the only voices of reason here. Anything bad happens to anyone in this country who happens to be an immigrant and here come the conspiracy theorists. Don't be so paranoid, people. The burglars in this country believe in equal opportunity victimization. They rob everybody equally regardless of race or color.

angelfire76
01-15-2009, 02:26 PM
Is it to learn something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jnqD8wvyE&feature=related
Once a finger breaks the fight's all out of even the most coked up thug. Of course if there are more than 1...give your wallet and start praying that you don't catch a slug.

It's inevitable with so much unemployment there will be a rise in crime. Best thing to do is to install car security alarms, be wary of strangers and stay away from shady places. Of course can't help if you live in the deep south or the crime ridden NJ area. You are unfortunately a victim of your richer brethren of the same color who like to display wealth in their Mercs/Bimmers/Lexuses and who's women look like jewelry store mannequins (minus the stats of course :p) Sad story, can happen to anybody, anywhere

LostInGCProcess
01-15-2009, 02:34 PM
Dude, with all due respect, I am serious about all the precautionary measures I told. In fact it was one of my American colleague who sent out a similar list some time ago( I believe a year ago, when a similar incident happened to one lady at a parking lot), to all the team members.

It was claimed based on some statistics, if a person who hijacks a car, more often (about 90%) the perpetrator kills the driver. Its a fact.

Its not paranoia, its something if you keep in mind, then there is very good chance to come out alive form that dreadful predicament. God forbid, it could happen to anybody.

[QUOTE]Most of these incidents are straight forward. The bag guy asks for money, the good guy refuses or tries to put up a fight and gets shot. When you’re faced with a mugger/carjacker, always comply with their demands and leave quickly. That’s it.
Really??!!! I totally disagree with you on this. I have seen in Detroit, where poor Indians got killed "execution" style, in a dunkin donut store, they didn't put up a fight or refused. They could barely speak proper english. They were all bound, face down, and shot in the head. Now don't tell me its an isolated incident and it would not happen again...time and time again these things happen. So, if you think if we dont resist and head to all the demands of the robbers, they would let you go, then you are wrong, my friend. You got 50-50 chance they would let you go.

I agree, we need to be cautious of the surroundings. But no to the paranoid level of checking out every hiding place or hitting a wall/pillar
There is no paranoia here...just a mild glance in the back window is a good practice before getting in once car.

And your assertion that only psycho's kill, is wrong. Common robbers too kill people after robbing.

Humhongekamyab
01-15-2009, 02:35 PM
Here is the news from the Little Rock newpaper. Apparently the criminal shot dead another guy right after this incident http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=175391

belmontboy
01-15-2009, 02:46 PM
Here is the news from the Little Rock newpaper. Apparently the criminal shot dead another guy right after this incident http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=175391

From the above link: "Police say the suspect fits the description of a gunman who robbed another man earlier this morning on Michael Road, and shot him in the leg. The victim in that incident is expected to recover".

Indian news sites are saying the guy is dead! donno what to believe

Humhongekamyab
01-15-2009, 02:48 PM
From the above link: "Police say the suspect fits the description of a gunman who robbed another man earlier this morning on Michael Road, and shot him in the leg. The victim in that incident is expected to recover".

Indian news sites are saying the guy is dead! donno what to believe

The news item was posted on January 13th and it appears at that time the guy was only wounded in the leg. I think he was declared dead in the hospital.

belmontboy
01-15-2009, 02:51 PM
I wonder whether proper first aid was given to the person.

People do normally survive gunshots to leg!!

Humhongekamyab
01-15-2009, 02:53 PM
I wonder whether proper first aid was given to the person.

People do normally survive gunshots to leg!!

"He was near his home when somebody perhaps demanded some money. He was fired at and bullets hit him in the leg. Due to this, his arteries bled profusely which led to kidney failure," Murthy said.

LostInGCProcess
01-15-2009, 02:59 PM
Here is the news from the Little Rock newpaper. Apparently the criminal shot dead another guy right after this incident http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=175391

Thanks for the link. The robber was indeed targeting a particular group/race...Hispanics. And us Indians look like Hispanics in the eye of African-Americans ( and some whites think we are Arabs, that's a whole different story).

Police also say the suspect in these latest crimes matches the description of a man wanted for a string of robberies apparently targeting Hispanic men in the parking lots of apartment complexes in other parts of west Little Rock.

angelfire76
01-15-2009, 03:03 PM
I wonder whether proper first aid was given to the person.

People do normally survive gunshots to leg!!

You bleed to death especially if an artery is severed. Remember Sean Taylor of the Washington Redskins? :rolleyes:

diptam
01-15-2009, 03:12 PM
The earlier who mentioned about hard hitting a car on Tree/building to shake the robber and run away is absolutely misleading peoples. There is no reward for bravery or mental sharpness in US for folks who wins a fight with robber or outsmarts them.

How much the Robber can steal from you - Couple of hundred cash, 5 credit cards ( which you can immediately cancel if you are not injured) and some important contacts. Be Nice with him and give him what he wants, tell them that you understand their situation and be sympathetic and polite with them.

I once did that and the robber just took 20 bucks from my wallet, 3 Marlboro Lights cigarettes and returned me the rest of money,credit cards,my SSN card and important contact papers and my rest cigarette pack and told me "you look like a nice guy".

Don't panic seeing robber or don't make the robber panic by shouting or banging your car on the building :) Robbers are just human beings like us with pathetic economic conditions ....

I have to respectfully disagree with the point 4 you have mentioned.

If a thug is attacking you, it is best to just obey what ever he is demanding. Under no circumstances, try to outsmart him. Us trying to outsmart a thug during a robbery will be like the thug trying to outsmart us in computer programming.

If a thug wants the car, just give him the keys and walk away. Insurance will pay us the price of the car - deductible. The same amount we will get, if we take our chance and destroy the car trying to outsmart the guy. And who knows, may be the 'thug' is a cousin of yours trying a prank on you. And in the dark, you could not really see his face.

Robbers charging your credit card is no big deal either. There are federal laws protecting us on incorrect credit card charges. Would you want to risk your life for just $50?

belmontboy
01-15-2009, 03:23 PM
The earlier who mentioned about hard hitting a car on Tree/building to shake the robber and run away is absolutely misleading peoples. There is no reward for bravery or mental sharpness in US for folks who wins a fight with robber or outsmarts them.

How much the Robber can steal from you - Couple of hundred cash, 5 credit cards ( which you can immediately cancel if you are not injured) and some important contacts. Be Nice with him and give him what he wants, tell them that you understand their situation and be sympathetic and polite with them.

I once did that and the robber just took 20 bucks from my wallet, 3 Marlboro Lights cigarettes and returned me the rest of money,credit cards,my SSN card and important contact papers and my rest cigarette pack and told me "you look like a nice guy".

Don't panic seeing robber or don't make the robber panic by shouting or banging your car on the building :) Robbers are just human beings like us with pathetic economic conditions ....

Yes, the most important of all, you don't die for 20$.

The smart way is: be nice to him, he'll be nice to you.

sledge_hammer
01-15-2009, 03:27 PM
I hope you won't offer to buy your potential mugger some beer! He's just going to drink the beer and still shoot you :)

The smart way is: be nice to him, he'll be nice to you.

belmontboy
01-15-2009, 03:29 PM
I hope you won't try to buy your potential mugger some beer! He's just going to drink the beer and still shoot you :)

i'll take this as joke.

Trust me, if he wants to kill you, he won't ask for your money.
If he asks for your money/car, he doesn't intend to kill you.

n_2006
01-15-2009, 03:31 PM
Do not worry. I will tell your name when I see them next time.

The pattern of these killings is so strange that most of the people that got killed are from AP.

My friends from AP, Be careful. They are coming after you :)

waitforgc1
01-15-2009, 03:32 PM
Akshay was one of us and I feel saddened to read this news.

However, this violent act could possibly be a sign of tough economy. Although, the problem is, any attack on an "India" immigrant is covered by stupid of all NDTV and times of Iindia et al. How many people died in India because of violence yesterday in India? Anybody knows that number? Anybody? NDTV? TOI? None. Noe one cares. The United Stupid of the Media don't care and don't cover that news. NDTV is just trying to get more people to click on their webiste and read their news. And people people will fall in that trap if the headline reads like 'Indian Technie was killed in a violent attack'. People from the subcontinent will then click on the news.

The reality is, if you do math, and find out the % of population of "Legal Immigrants" if that is your concern, the crime on "Legal Immigrants" is lesser as compared to the crime involving attacks on natives. If your concern is that crime on "Indian Techie", then you can do the math and find out the % of population of "Indian Technie" to the other demography of the population, the crime on "Indian Techie" is less as compared to the crime involving attacks on any other demography. So this "news" style is flawed and "educated" people could use caution when subscribing to the conclusion of the news artiles we read, just as we should use caution reading any religious book. This cautionary practice of not subscribing to a viewpoint, just because it showed up in the newspaper or because it is written in a "book" by someone in the past, in my opinion differentiates between "an educated who went to school" and "an uneducated who went to school".

The reason for my writing this is, very soon you will see an article on NDTV with the deadlines something like - "200% increase in the crime against Indian techie" because last year 2 Indian techies died and this year that number jumped to 4. And everyone will read that news formulating an opinion that India techies are slaughtered on the streets of AR, and some will say AR and detriot is a very dangerous place to visit. And such opinion is as wrong as the opinion which suggests other for not going to Mumbai because there was a terrorist attack in Mumbai last November.

We should use caution with falling in the trap of the reporter/news media and not perceive the news what the news media wants us to understand, and maybe treat the news just the way the news is. That's all.


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I absolutely accept what you are saying!!!

Humhongekamyab
01-15-2009, 03:35 PM
i'll take this as joke.

Trust me, if he wants to kill you, he won't ask for your money.
If he asks for your money/car, he doesn't intend to kill you.

You think anybody can mug 'sledge hammer'?

sledge_hammer
01-15-2009, 03:43 PM
When I posted that reply I didn't for once think it could be taken as anything other than a joke! If you are going through a debate in your mind whether its a joke or not, then I will have to revisit what I wrote to see what it is I am missing :)

i'll take this as joke.

Trust me, if he wants to kill you, he won't ask for your money.
If he asks for your money/car, he doesn't intend to kill you.

xyzgc
01-15-2009, 03:46 PM
The earlier who mentioned about hard hitting a car on Tree/building to shake the robber and run away is absolutely misleading peoples. There is no reward for bravery or mental sharpness in US for folks who wins a fight with robber or outsmarts them.

How much the Robber can steal from you - Couple of hundred cash, 5 credit cards ( which you can immediately cancel if you are not injured) and some important contacts. Be Nice with him and give him what he wants, tell them that you understand their situation and be sympathetic and polite with them.

I once did that and the robber just took 20 bucks from my wallet, 3 Marlboro Lights cigarettes and returned me the rest of money,credit cards,my SSN card and important contact papers and my rest cigarette pack and told me "you look like a nice guy".

Don't panic seeing robber or don't make the robber panic by shouting or banging your car on the building :) Robbers are just human beings like us with pathetic economic conditions ....

He shouldn't have returned your ciggies :D

belmontboy
01-15-2009, 04:03 PM
When I posted that reply I didn't for once think it could be taken as anything other than a joke! If you are going through a debate in your mind whether its a joke or not, then I will have to revisit what I wrote to see what it is I am missing :)

:D thanks for clarifying, i was planning to shoot you :D

masaternyc
01-15-2009, 08:07 PM
He shouldn't have returned your ciggies :D

You are also a takkie??? USCIS doesn't need any more software smart who whose fraudulent labor ???

I think US needs street smart to bring back the economy not software smart only.

gcisadawg
01-16-2009, 12:19 PM
Robbers charging your credit card is no big deal either. There are federal laws protecting us on incorrect credit card charges. Would you want to risk your life for just $50?

Year ago, my credit card was used by someone in Vegas and they charged about $2000.....I didn't loose my card and I was no where near Vegas during that time. My bank didn't charge me even a penny after going thru the identity theft complaint process which involved sending couple of mails with some notarized stuff and few phone calls.

Last month, my wife's handbag (had card in it) was pick-pocketed in a small town in India and they tried to use the card. We were on vacation and immediately called the bank and canceled the card.

Point is, whether it is India or US or anywhere, if a thief gets hold of your card, they would try to use it. For some, there is nothing like a free lunch!

Another example my ex-boss in US had. There was a homeless person in his area and he used to see him almost every day. One day he decided to do something, talked to him and asked him to sign-up with his church rehab group, get him a job etc....My ex-boss was serious but the homeless promptly rejected all the offers and instead he just wanted to remain as homeless only. He didn't even want to try....


Thanks,
GCisaDawg

belmontboy
01-16-2009, 12:45 PM
Another example my ex-boss in US had. There was a homeless person in his area and he used to see him almost every day. One day he decided to do something, talked to him and asked him to sign-up with his church rehab group, get him a job etc....My ex-boss was serious but the homeless promptly rejected all the offers and instead he just wanted to remain as homeless only. He didn't even want to try....


Thanks,
GCisaDawg

USA is land of opportunity.
Moral of the story, homelessness in this country is by choice not by chance!