What will CIR look like?

[Jaime]

I remain an optimist. From what I have researched, it seems that CIR might be taken up in October (if the economy improves, and as we have seen recently, it is starting to cooperate). This is coming for sure, so we have to start getting ready from now!

My question to our forum is, what do you think CIR will look like? From your research and what you might know, from the legal standpoint, are we looking at:

#1 - A points system?
#2 - A change in country caps?
#3 - A combination of #1 and #2?

What do you guys think?

[Ushakiran]

CIR will just crack down legal immigrants and relieve illegal immigrants. That is it. We are all doomed. No kidding.

[kumarc123]

I strongly believe, they my use a point system approach like other countries. They talked about point system in the past, I am pretty sure thy might implement that system



What do you all think?

[gc_on_demand]

CIR will just cracks down legal immigrants and relieves illegal immigrants. That is it. No kidding.

I think Anti immigraiton people will work hard to block any increament in immigraiton. While Latino group will work very hard for amnesty. Common ground will be decrease legal immigration for certain year and allow illegal to be legal first. then resume back to as it is. Also implement enforcement policy and stop illegal immigrants entering into USA.

in the end it will be a win-win situation for them. Who will suffer is : LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. believe me and be ready for tougher laws for H1bs and EAD card holder.. They may eliminate even AC21.

[Jaime]

I strongly believe, they my use a point system approach like other countries. They talked about point system in the past, I am pretty sure thy might implement that system



What do you all think?

I agree that they will use a points system. When Obama was senator, he introduced an amendment to CIR 2007 where the points system would end after 5 years (that was back then, to please some anti-immigrants constituents), but that was because the points system back then was geared towards both illegals and legals. I think this time, they will for sure try to legalize the illegals, and they will introduce measures like a points systems for legals, and perhaps some relief for U.S.-educated legals, or those with masters degrees.

Right now all that matters to make this happen is that the economy improves. The Dow broke 8000 today, and the buzz everywhere is that we're nearing a bottom. Also, the world has taken the G-20 meeting outcomes very positively (even if the U.S. wanted more stimulus), confidence is improving. I am sure that come the summer and Fall things will be even better. The summer will be dominated by healthcare reform, and then comes our turn. Let's prepare, and let's donate to IV!!!

Any other opinions regarding what CIR might look like for us legals?

[pappu]

I remain an optimist. From what I have researched, it seems that CIR might be taken up in October (if the economy improves, and as we have seen recently, it is starting to cooperate). This is coming for sure, so we have to start getting ready from now!

My question to our forum is, what do you think CIR will look like? From your research and what you might know, from the legal standpoint, are we looking at:

#1 - A points system?
#2 - A change in country caps?
#3 - A combination of #1 and #2?

What do you guys think?

It can also be none of the above if restrictionists have their way.
There is a possibility of tightening the EB greencard process and H1bs. Do not be surprised if that happens because there is an effort in that direction. The bad economy is helping such attempts. It would be tough to go in this direction because the industry will oppose that.

What you can see is border enforcement, path to citizenship for undocumented and dream act included in it. This is because we are hearing that CHC is putting lot of pressure for an immigration reform.

[sriramkalyan]

CIR will have this beautiful provision , EB3 Indians can use.

Z visa for Illegals who are in US for past 5 years.

Right now Grassly & Durbin getting ready on H1B extensions .. That's god give .. H1B extension fails , I become Illegal ...

I have to just pay 100 Dollars , i will get my EAD ...

Rest of you ....cry " My H1B got denied" , my B1 got denied ...

[Jaime]

I think Anti immigraiton people will work hard to block any increament in immigraiton. While Latino group will work very hard for amnesty. Common ground will be decrease legal immigration for certain year and allow illegal to be legal first. then resume back to as it is. Also implement enforcement policy and stop illegal immigrants entering into USA.

in the end it will be a win-win situation for them. Who will suffer is : LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. believe me and be ready for tougher laws for H1bs and EAD card holder.. They may eliminate even AC21.

You make good points but, I don't think we will be left out. The general consensus among the American public is that (given the economy is OK) legal immigration is good, illegal is bad. Americans are smart and reasonable, if it is a win-win for all, with the U.S. needing to be the key winner above all. Emotions and politics aside, we have truth on our side, and that truth is that our contributions help the U.S. be a winner. I think we will be fine!

[ilikekilo]

It can also be none of the above if restrictionists have their way.
There is a possibility of tightening the EB greencard process and H1bs. Do not be surprised if that happens because there is an effort in that direction. The bad economy is helping such attempts. It would be tough to go in this direction because the industry will oppose that.

What you can see is border enforcement, path to citizenship for undocumented and dream act included in it. This is because we are hearing that CHC is putting lot of pressure for an immigration reform.


If this is what its gonna be then it would be fair to say legals has nothing good coming up..unless we put up some fight...Gee!!!!!!!!!

[Jaime]

It can also be none of the above if restrictionists have their way.
There is a possibility of tightening the EB greencard process and H1bs. Do not be surprised if that happens because there is an effort in that direction. The bad economy is helping such attempts. It would be tough to go in this direction because the industry will oppose that.

What you can see is border enforcement, path to citizenship for undocumented and dream act included in it. This is because we are hearing that CHC is putting lot of pressure for an immigration reform.

That's true but even lawmakers know that the restrictionists are a small (though loud) minority. When the economy improves you will see pent-up demand by companies for foreign high-skilled talent, and some sort of provision will beneift us. In every past draft version of CIR there have been fair provisions for people who hold degrees, etc. I feel good about what's to come!!

[sriramkalyan]

Legals have to reapply Green card through Point system. And they have to go back to their countries for applying.

Now Illegals ..Its all WIN-WIN ... 12 million Voters. This is much better plan than Karl Rove had for permanent Republican majority.


You make good points but, I don't think we will be left out. The general consensus among the American public is that (given the economy is OK) legal immigration is good, illegal is bad. Americans are smart and reasonable, if it is a win-win for all, with the U.S. needing to be the key winner above all. Emotions and politics aside, we have truth on our side, and that truth is that our contributions help the U.S. be a winner. I think we will be fine!

[mhkumar]

In the CIR(H.R.264) , check the section
"ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS ON THE BASIS OF EARNED ACCESS TO LEGALIZATION"
Is this not going to help us?

[kumarc123]

It can also be none of the above if restrictionists have their way.
There is a possibility of tightening the EB greencard process and H1bs. Do not be surprised if that happens because there is an effort in that direction. The bad economy is helping such attempts. It would be tough to go in this direction because the industry will oppose that.

What you can see is border enforcement, path to citizenship for undocumented and dream act included in it. This is because we are hearing that CHC is putting lot of pressure for an immigration reform.

Papu,
I respect your opinion, But things have already changed, people have less faith on companies, specially after the downfall of the financial sector. A point system will come out as a fair system, where companies will have less control on filling a green card for the potential employees. Look at Australia or Canada their immigration system is more favorable why? Because of the point system.


Isn't that the notion Obama has been beating all this while? And if he had used a point system in the past, their is a strong chance he will use it again.

So what happened to US system? A lot of companies, DESI companies exploited the system, senator Dubin and all are not against immigration, but they want to stop a bad practice of H1b system. Isnt' that going to help all of us?


I saw the point system last time, they put heavy emphasis on education and the family members living here.

[thomachan72]

CIR will take time my friend. Meanwhile we have "Dream bill" in the house which is attempting to legalize the ilegal kids. Now let us talk about including a provision for EB applicants kids into that bill, which will serve multiple purpose:
1) will highlight that there is a tremendous backlog due to EB visa wastage, country limits etc
2) Increase our quota for EB visa due to seperation of kids who exceeded the 5 year US stay into a seperate catagory and process.

So talk to the senators to (not support Dream act As Is) but to include a seperate provision for the dynamic kids of the EB community.
Do a favor for the EB community particularly our friends in the EB3 catagory who have tremendously long waiting times.

[santb1975]

I am hoping it would be employer independent :-)

I remain an optimist. From what I have researched, it seems that CIR might be taken up in October (if the economy improves, and as we have seen recently, it is starting to cooperate). This is coming for sure, so we have to start getting ready from now!

My question to our forum is, what do you think CIR will look like? From your research and what you might know, from the legal standpoint, are we looking at:

#1 - A points system?
#2 - A change in country caps?
#3 - A combination of #1 and #2?

What do you guys think?