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eagerr2i
04-27-2009, 02:00 PM
This is an interesting topic at the Milken Institute conference being held in Los Angeles this week.
http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/gcprogram.taf?function=detail&EvID=1719&eventid=GC09
Synopsys:
Immigration – not imitation – might be the sincerest form of flattery. The United States was built on a tradition of attracting and assimilating the best and brightest from around the world. But the economic crisis is stirring cries of protectionism, in effect closing our borders to highly skilled immigrants who wish to study, contribute and invest in the U.S. More than a half-million non-U.S. citizens are enrolled here in higher-education programs, but when they graduate, we tell them to pack their bags and escort them to the border. Should we instead, as venture capitalist John Doerr famously said, "staple a green card to their diplomas"? Could a visa policy shift – not only for students, but also for entrepreneurs and high-tech workers – be a force for economic stimulus, reducing excess housing inventory and increasing America's human capital?
kumarc123
04-27-2009, 02:05 PM
This is an interesting topic at the Milken Institute conference being held in Los Angeles this week.
http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/gcprogram.taf?function=detail&EvID=1719&eventid=GC09
Synopsys:
Immigration – not imitation – might be the sincerest form of flattery. The United States was built on a tradition of attracting and assimilating the best and brightest from around the world. But the economic crisis is stirring cries of protectionism, in effect closing our borders to highly skilled immigrants who wish to study, contribute and invest in the U.S. More than a half-million non-U.S. citizens are enrolled here in higher-education programs, but when they graduate, we tell them to pack their bags and escort them to the border. Should we instead, as venture capitalist John Doerr famously said, "staple a green card to their diplomas"? Could a visa policy shift – not only for students, but also for entrepreneurs and high-tech workers – be a force for economic stimulus, reducing excess housing inventory and increasing America's human capital?
Thanks for contributing this article, but my question to you and Papu is, howcome the government has not initiated something solid.
And do you guys believe? That we will have a point system this year and how will it impact the ones who are already in the que?
Thanks
santb1975
04-27-2009, 02:29 PM
really eager for an update on how this went.
This is an interesting topic at the Milken Institute conference being held in Los Angeles this week.
http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/gcprogram.taf?function=detail&EvID=1719&eventid=GC09
Synopsys:
Immigration – not imitation – might be the sincerest form of flattery. The United States was built on a tradition of attracting and assimilating the best and brightest from around the world. But the economic crisis is stirring cries of protectionism, in effect closing our borders to highly skilled immigrants who wish to study, contribute and invest in the U.S. More than a half-million non-U.S. citizens are enrolled here in higher-education programs, but when they graduate, we tell them to pack their bags and escort them to the border. Should we instead, as venture capitalist John Doerr famously said, "staple a green card to their diplomas"? Could a visa policy shift – not only for students, but also for entrepreneurs and high-tech workers – be a force for economic stimulus, reducing excess housing inventory and increasing America's human capital?
gc_on_demand
04-27-2009, 02:33 PM
Thanks for contributing this article, but my question to you and Papu is, howcome the government has not initiated something solid.
And do you guys believe? That we will have a point system this year and how will it impact the ones who are already in the que?
Thanks
May be govt thinks that we are so small in no that illegal can solve housing crisis easily. We are 500k waiting for GC and illegals are 12millions. They can finish easily all housing inventory.
We claim that we want to start business etcc... Govt think how many will actully start a business ? may be few .. compare to us illegals can start so many small business that may help local community.
Major + point to illegals are VOTE BANK. What ever we can do illegals can do...
effect of INNOVATION can be seen only after decade. ( which we can do and illegals cannot ) .. But who cares for 10 years...
Govt has short sight that is it.
eagerr2i
04-27-2009, 04:44 PM
The idea that something tangible would come out this conference or like is misplaced.
These types of forums and conference debates helps the real issues to bubble up, help socilaize the cause for the various issues that the conferences feature and help in understanding the real issues for the folks who formulate the policy, folks who influence & shape the debate on the print and 'on air' media.. all this these drops add up when the real time comes for the government to forumulate legislation or act up on the social/governing issues facing the nation.
rockrocky
04-27-2009, 05:33 PM
May be govt thinks that we are so small in no that illegal can solve housing crisis easily. We are 500k waiting for GC and illegals are 12millions. They can finish easily all housing inventory.
We claim that we want to start business etcc... Govt think how many will actully start a business ? may be few .. compare to us illegals can start so many small business that may help local community.
Major + point to illegals are VOTE BANK. What ever we can do illegals can do...
effect of INNOVATION can be seen only after decade. ( which we can do and illegals cannot ) .. But who cares for 10 years...
Govt has short sight that is it.
You are absolutely right. Illegal immigrants are much more looked upon for the vote bank purposes. 12 million illegal immigrants must have at least equal number of citizen relatives and they all stand for those illegal immigrants. And all those people's votes count when they are making up some policy. Where as the legal immigrants only have each other(God Bless us ALL). Many legal immigrants who walked the path to citizenship will forget where they came from. Not their fault as people who have got GCs and Citizenship earlier got it in no time. So they don't know that its a big deal of time now. May be we should start gathering support from all those people whose vote can be valuable to the govt and if the govt sees a good number in them, may be then they will start thinking about us to get their votes. My 2 cents.
Singh
04-27-2009, 09:01 PM
Highly skilled immigrants can recover the economy. Nevertheless, they can still be exploited in a brokers came :) It;s like a linked list.
eagerr2i
04-28-2009, 02:51 PM
The conference session has been uploaded & is online now on the Milken Institute web site..
http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/gcprogram.taf?function=detail&eventid=GC09&EvID=1719
One of the participants mentioned Immigration Voice in the detabe session.
rockrocky
04-29-2009, 04:21 PM
I watched the session and was very appreciate of the panel and Shivkanth who represented IV and gave an answer to the 'Gentleman in the back'.
Go IV.
But, why are we trying to focus on solving economy if given green cards? We should focus on fixing the broken immigration system. PERIOD. What if the Congress comes back and says we don't want H1B people to help the economy and we have other ways of fixing it? I don't think we should project ourselves as messiahs who can save the economy just like that as we have lots of savings. Many of us might buy houses once we get our Green Cards, but that should not be used as propaganda item.
I respect Vivek Wadhva, but I disagree with him in this regard.
eagerr2i
04-29-2009, 04:32 PM
There is not going to be one solution to get the economy back on track; infact there needs to be a multitude of things happening simultaneously and this happens to be one of those various measures. The points made by the panel were that these are some of the items worth looking at which would not cost the US exchequer tons of money like what we have seen being spent with out the guarantee of a result that the government wants to see. These are common sense solutions that could be excecised up on
rockrocky
04-29-2009, 04:50 PM
.. that we should not be trying to make that as a selling point. We should have our point straight which is getting GCs by fixing the system and recapturing unused old Visa numbers. Instead Vivek was tying to highlight that point as a huge selling point and thus side lining the fact that we need to fix the immigration system. Govt will not come forward and give Green cards if you are willing to buy a house. USCIS would still try to consider the priority date for majority of the applications before adjudicating them in case somebody comes after them. I said majority as we know sometimes they don't seem to follow anything. But those have been exceptional or lucky cases. But otherwise they are sticking to the Priority date and they will do it all the time. What if they start giving GCs to people who are buying houses and there are so many people who are out there and don't plan to buy a house as they are not settled yet with their job and job location. They might be staying in their current location as the job/project demanded. They might not be very ready to move to the state of their choice and pick the school district of their choice yet. So, those people will never get their GC because of this facitlity or offer is giving GCs to home buyers and there are plenty of H1B people who are ready to make a down payment.
Alabaman
04-29-2009, 05:38 PM
Let them go eat their green cards... I am outta this country...and I am going to walk away from my two mortgages. I cant take it any more.
GC_Applicant
04-29-2009, 07:23 PM
Looks like illegal are going to get green cards and we will be left out. Now that our SSN., credit history, finger prints, eye prints, kidney prints are all with the government and probably with other scruplous elements., how can we become ILLEGALS??
maximus777
04-29-2009, 08:09 PM
Is it possible to get around EB retrogression by becoming a naturalized citizen of Nepal? :confused:
nousername
04-29-2009, 08:24 PM
Is it possible to get around EB retrogression by becoming a naturalized citizen of Nepal? :confused:
At least this immigration mess is helping by sharpening our imagination :D:D:D
hiralal
04-29-2009, 09:50 PM
May be govt thinks that we are so small in no that illegal can solve housing crisis easily. We are 500k waiting for GC and illegals are 12millions. They can finish easily all housing inventory.
We claim that we want to start business etcc... Govt think how many will actully start a business ? may be few .. compare to us illegals can start so many small business that may help local community.
Major + point to illegals are VOTE BANK. What ever we can do illegals can do...
effect of INNOVATION can be seen only after decade. ( which we can do and illegals cannot ) .. But who cares for 10 years...
Govt has short sight that is it.
I agree with many points above but my feeling is bit different. as of now, Obama govt thinks (or feels that this is the only choice they have) that they can solve the housing issue by throwing tax payer money but they definitely know that all they are doing is delaying the inevitable ..on the other hand ..their focus is to give jobs to Americans first and hence the tightening of rules at point of entry, more RFE's etc.
as for illegals or CIR ..they will try and make a effort but most likely ..like the last time ..it will fail again (and then they can claim that they tried etc etc) /...in other words it is status quo
santb1975
04-30-2009, 01:46 AM
I know I am going to spend my weekend watching all these videos
realist
12-17-2010, 09:03 AM
This is an interesting topic at the Milken Institute conference being held in Los Angeles this week.
Milken Institute Global Conference 2009 - High-Skills Immigration Can Help U.S. Economic Recovery (http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/gcprogram.taf?function=detail&EvID=1719&eventid=GC09)
Synopsys:
Immigration – not imitation – might be the sincerest form of flattery. The United States was built on a tradition of attracting and assimilating the best and brightest from around the world. But the economic crisis is stirring cries of protectionism, in effect closing our borders to highly skilled immigrants who wish to study, contribute and invest in the U.S. More than a half-million non-U.S. citizens are enrolled here in higher-education programs, but when they graduate, we tell them to pack their bags and escort them to the border. Should we instead, as venture capitalist John Doerr famously said, "staple a green card to their diplomas"? Could a visa policy shift – not only for students, but also for entrepreneurs and high-tech workers – be a force for economic stimulus, reducing excess housing inventory and increasing America's human capital?
Did they come out with any recommendations?
semiGator
01-20-2011, 09:02 AM
the housing crisis continues.......
the immigration problem persists...........
combining the two - is it dead or alive and achievable?
sioux
01-20-2011, 10:12 AM
Key Senator Urges Obama To Push Foreclosure Relief In State Of The Union (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/20/key-senator-urges-obama-t_n_811475.html)
It does not address immigration relief as a way to bring the housing crisis under control, however, it is a measure that needs to be voiced..
ca_immigrant
03-10-2011, 12:29 PM
saw this on linkedin .
Why Silicon Valley Immigrant Entrepreneurs Are Returning Home
Why Silicon Valley Immigrant Entrepreneurs Are Returning Home | LinkedIn (http://www.linkedin.com/news?actionBar=&articleID=406237695&ids=0Ndz8NcP8Nc3gIcPARcj4Ncz4Qb3oOc30Td30Nd2MQcjAN cPsNc3gIdjASdPcOdz0Q&aag=true&freq=weekly&trk=yiaag-96)
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