HR 3012 general discussion since April 2012

[sanhari]

You would have noticed by now that many of the moderators/leaders themselves are EB3. We all realize the mess EB3 is in. Cannot blame the system for all of it. For many EB3 folks its either unluck with being unable to file in the EB3 catagory since the job requirement is defined that way or simply because their sponsors dont want to go through the additional scrutiny. Now given the current economic situation there is "no way" that any bill with recapture provisions will pass. You also would have realized the senator who has currently blocked our bill (3012) is suggesting that EB3 catagory immigration be eliminated completely. If there was a way IV could have tackled EB3 seperately it would have already been the topmost on the agenda, have no doubts about that. Infact IV has suggested that spillover allocations be made to most retrogressed as soon as EB2 becomes current. To be honest there is only two ways out for EB3. #1 is porting to EB2 and #2 is passage of HR3012.


I agree with GC2012, why EB3 always need to be in if loop?

To thomachan72, If IV does not support now to get the spillover to most retrogressed EB3,I don't understand how it will be fair for IV to suggest/propose for it right after EB2 becomes current :confused:.

I hope HR3012 will make it fair for all and let's work together to get it soon to The President's desk, I support IV for their efforts in getting this bill passed.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[hello]

I 'm quite new here and it can be easily guessed by the number of posts , but at the same time it does not mean that I may be not talking sense

I do see that few people are respected here for there valuable advise and also the efforts put behind IV , and i do appreciate that , and I 'm getting into doing action items and contributing by setting Paypal after learning about IV

Well I'll stop by rambling and come straight to the point
Why is EB3 always in if Loop , what i mean to say is if EB2 becomes current then it will be worked on to get Spillovers from eb2 to benefit folks in eb3 on first in first out basis (which is clearly EB3 -I as it most retrogressed)
but why question is what if it does not ,with EB2 moving fast with so many applications being filed ,there can be probability of otherwise too , do we have any back up plan to address most backlogged category on its own ?

I 'm not trying to bring down the hopes or its a question optimistic and pessimistic , but trying to pen down my thoughts , as i do not see EB3 being much discussed or addressed , and situation and plight is dependent on some many factors like transformer with wires gauged

Why can't we have a simple solution like capture the unused quote or what ever its called , or percentage of spillover to be flown to most backlogged category , that could have speculated less opposition i guess , and atleast no one could have tried to piggy bank on it :rolleyes:

I agree there is no solution for EB3 even if HR 3012 passes it won't be a big change.But ask this to EB3 people what have they done for their problem?The answer is nothing,I know lot of EB3 folks they are not involved in action items,even repeatedly told,they are just waiting for something to happen so that they will be current.IV started an initiative in 2010,file I485 if PD is not current.We wanted 5000 folks but after running this campaign for almot a year we ended up with less than 2000 folks.Do you thing only 2000 folks are affected?That is an admin fix and in my view that is the only fix which can really help EB3 category,so that they can have EAD's.If you guys are realy interested I am with you and we can talk to the core team regarding that but I don't know if we should start that now as HR 3012 is in progress.I hope Pappu can comment on it.
Thanks All

[Suva]

AI done today.

Where is the action item thread? What's going on?

[gcindia123]

Completed AI for today !

[pappu]

Completed AI for today !

I agree there is no solution for EB3 even if HR 3012 passes it won't be a big change.But ask this to EB3 people what have they done for their problem?The answer is nothing,I know lot of EB3 folks they are not involved in action items,even repeatedly told,they are just waiting for something to happen so that they will be current.IV started an initiative in 2010,file I485 if PD is not current.We wanted 5000 folks but after running this campaign for almot a year we ended up with less than 2000 folks.Do you thing only 2000 folks are affected?That is an admin fix and in my view that is the only fix which can really help EB3 category,so that they can have EAD's.If you guys are realy interested I am with you and we can talk to the core team regarding that but I don't know if we should start that now as HR 3012 is in progress.I hope Pappu can comment on it.
Thanks All

2 years ago there was a golden window of opportunity to work on ' applying 485 ' fix. It would have helped everyone in eb2 and eb3 and all countries. Eb3 folks have long wait times and those after 2007 priority dates would have benefitted the most. And this number is certainly more than 1,500 that voted on that thread. These windows of opportunities do not last forever. And people need to seize that moment and support it.

We have a golden opportunity with hr3012 right now. Each one of us that benefits from it needs to whole heatedly support it. We should not have couple hundred folks doing contribution and simple action items like clicking button and sending emails when asked via many newsletters and forum posts. The success of any effort is in our hands. We can either choose to sit back , give ideas and expert feedback on forums, criticise what is being done, fight with others, ... Or simply roll up the sleeves and get things done. IV is each one of us and not just the core team. We should Take it upon ourselves to get things done by supporting this effort. This is our work and no outsider should be expected to do our work for us.

At this time the best bet for eb3 is hr3012. There is lot of continuous lobbying going on. This effort is not in media and other so called websites that claim to have inside information. Because such discussions are not posted folks actually involved. When we have something to make public we will do so. At this time the bill is in a good place and needs tons of support from each member reading this post. More support is directly proportional to more resources we can put to advocate aggressively each day. Bills take time and we are lucky to have things moving smoothly till now. Please take a moment of your time to do action items everyday and contribute to this effort if you have not till now. We ideally want each one of our members to sign up for monthly contributions. $25 is a very small amount per month compared to the kind of result we want to achieve.

Have faith and persistence and we will succeed.

[dts]

2 years ago there was a golden window of opportunity to work on ' applying 485 ' fix. It would have helped everyone in eb2 and eb3 and all countries. Eb3 folks have long wait times and those after 2007 priority dates would have benefitted the most. And this number is certainly more than 1,500 that voted on that thread. These windows of opportunities do not last forever. And people need to seize that moment and support it.

We have a golden opportunity with hr3012 right now. Each one of us that benefits from it needs to whole heatedly support it. We should not have couple hundred folks doing contribution and simple action items like clicking button and sending emails when asked via many newsletters and forum posts. The success of any effort is in our hands. We can either choose to sit back , give ideas and expert feedback on forums, criticise what is being done, fight with others, ... Or simply roll up the sleeves and get things done. IV is each one of us and not just the core team. We should Take it upon ourselves to get things done by supporting this effort. This is our work and no outsider should be expected to do our work for us.

At this time the best bet for eb3 is hr3012. There is lot of continuous lobbying going on. This effort is not in media and other so called websites that claim to have inside information. Because such discussions are not posted folks actually involved. When we have something to make public we will do so. At this time the bill is in a good place and needs tons of support from each member reading this post. More support is directly proportional to more resources we can put to advocate aggressively each day. Bills take time and we are lucky to have things moving smoothly till now. Please take a moment of your time to do action items everyday and contribute to this effort if you have not till now. We ideally want each one of our members to sign up for monthly contributions. $25 is a very small amount per month compared to the kind of result we want to achieve.

Have faith and persistence and we will succeed.

Thanks Pappu for encouraging update.
Let us choose Option 2 from his quote:
" We can either choose to sit back , give ideas and expert feedback on forums, criticise what is being done, fight with others, ... Or simply roll up the sleeves and get things done."

Let us contact at least one new person everyday to bring them on IV action Item.
This bill will definitely pass if everyone works wholeheartedly.

[jazzyjatt]

Did the AI for today. Already signed up for the 6 months contribution. Go IV !!!

[srij]

Signed up for 6 month $25 recurring contribution. This is in addition to $400 contributed already. Will reach out to more folks. Come on guys, let's get this done. 3012 in 2012.

[dts]

Done AI today..

[gcindia123]

Hello Everyone,

I joined this forum last week. I started doing the AI from today. I signed up for the 6 months recurring contribution today. Go IV !!!

Hello Admin

Can you please give me the confirmation for my recurring amount.

Thanks,
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[vazhippokkan]

Donated $200 today for HR3012...

[vdlrao]

Schumer presses ahead in E-3 visa negotiations (http://irishecho.com/?p=69944)






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[sanju_dba]

2 years ago there was a golden window of opportunity to work on ' applying 485 ' fix. It would have helped everyone in eb2 and eb3 and all countries. Eb3 folks have long wait times and those after 2007 priority dates would have benefitted the most. And this number is certainly more than 1,500 that voted on that thread. These windows of opportunities do not last forever. And people need to seize that moment and support it.

We have a golden opportunity with hr3012 right now. Each one of us that benefits from it needs to whole heatedly support it. We should not have couple hundred folks doing contribution and simple action items like clicking button and sending emails when asked via many newsletters and forum posts. The success of any effort is in our hands. We can either choose to sit back , give ideas and expert feedback on forums, criticise what is being done, fight with others, ... Or simply roll up the sleeves and get things done. IV is each one of us and not just the core team. We should Take it upon ourselves to get things done by supporting this effort. This is our work and no outsider should be expected to do our work for us.

At this time the best bet for eb3 is hr3012. There is lot of continuous lobbying going on. This effort is not in media and other so called websites that claim to have inside information. Because such discussions are not posted folks actually involved. When we have something to make public we will do so. At this time the bill is in a good place and needs tons of support from each member reading this post. More support is directly proportional to more resources we can put to advocate aggressively each day. Bills take time and we are lucky to have things moving smoothly till now. Please take a moment of your time to do action items everyday and contribute to this effort if you have not till now. We ideally want each one of our members to sign up for monthly contributions. $25 is a very small amount per month compared to the kind of result we want to achieve.

Have faith and persistence and we will succeed.

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[makunur]

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[gcindia123]

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Signed up for 6 month $25 recurring contribution.

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[donquit]

Please do share about your donations on our facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/Support.HR3012 and encourage others to do the same.

Thank you for your support.

[abe1]

Senator Grassley says this a time of historically high unemployment in U.S. and hence this is not good time to enact any reforms to fix the flawed immigration laws. What the Senator does not realize is that most of the people whom are the most disadvantaged by the decade long wait for green card came to U.S. when the country was going through historically high economic prosperity. We worked through the boom and bust and are now helping the economy to recover. We were discriminated then and are discriminated now. This is just a different excuse.

[vsrinir]

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[madhu345]

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[MIK18]

Completed ActionItems for today.

[gcharry]

I see a lot of posts say "Compelted AI for today", "done AI for today." We cannot send e-mails, donate everyday. What are these everyday AI which I am missing?

[Suva]

Done AI today.

[gcindia123]

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[dhirajs98]

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[gcharry]

Siva, I am just trying to clarify my doubts. We should send emails to the same senator everyday by a same person?

[Suva]

Immigration chief seeks to reassure Silicon Valley...

Immigration chief seeks to reassure Silicon Valley – USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/story/2012-02-22/silicon-valley-tech-immigration/53211162/1)

[p7810456]

Yes, please do.

I thought if you already got a reply from your senator(s), you don't need to re-sent the mails. Isn't that?

[vsrinir]

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[Suva]

AI done today.

[Suva]

Irish Immigration Bill Raises Questions in Latino, Asian Communities...

Irish Immigration Bill Raises Questions in Latino, Asian Communities - WNYC (http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-free-country/2012/feb/23/sen-brown-irish-immigration-bill-raises-questions-latino-asian-communities/)

[thomachan72]

Irish Immigration Bill Raises Questions in Latino, Asian Communities...

Irish Immigration Bill Raises Questions in Latino, Asian Communities - WNYC (http://www.wnyc.org/articles/its-free-country/2012/feb/23/sen-brown-irish-immigration-bill-raises-questions-latino-asian-communities/)

This is another pick from the O law firm. We have to remember that there will be oppositions. That is the only reason we are having action items and asking everybody to join the fight by contributing/emailing etc. Yes there will be oppositions but our goals are clear and we will fight. IV leaders have assured us that the fight is going on pretty strong so dont loose heart over such news. Its ok to post such material here but dont get caught up with this. If the racer starts to think of fatigue while running what happens?? Lets just focus our full hearts to the goal and that is "seeing the message from IV that our bill has been put on the schedule and then the "pass" results". Its not a request to blind yourself from realities but rather a practical approach and introduction of clarity into your thought process. Its ok to read these negative news but take that with not a pich but a handful of salt!! What is the gurantee that the posts are true and if they are indeed true do we really know that the oposition is that strong "remember the huge victory in the house". All our mental energy should be focused on victory and only then we will win. Remember taking gruelling exams during college? Focus on victory and not likelihood of failure which is useless. As regular members its also our duty to inspire the IV leaders to continue the fight. If we behave as winers then where will their energy come from. We are all adults ( I hope!) so let us motivate each other even after we get the 3012 passed.

[vishalgupta2]

We still have to send it daily. Senators will remember your request only for a day. There are anti-HR3012 folks contacting senators daily. If we stop after getting a reply from senator, he will think support for the bill has faded and opposition is increasing.

As our lobbying is taking time, we need to remind senators daily that there is persistent support for this bill.

I think i remember someone from core posting that if the senators have replied, don't send them more emails. I will try to look for that post.

I have stopped sending mails for many weeks because of this. I think many others are also not sending mails coz the senators replied.

Can someone from core please provide clarity on this? I am requesting clarity just coz I don't want to mess up all the effort by doing wrong things.

If you are from core please reply so that I can start sending mails again.

[spven]

We need clarification from somebody from core as I too has stopped sending emails to senators as I have received emails from them. On another note, I think we will sink or swim with the Irish E3(though we like it or not). More than Reid, Schummer runs the day to day senate activities for Democrats. He has immense interest in E3 and not much on core 3012 provisions, they will only bring 3012 on to the floor when they have 60 votes locked up. Hopefully they could lock the last few this weekend.

[vishalgupta2]

I think i remember someone from core posting that if the senators have replied, don't send them more emails. I will try to look for that post.

I have stopped sending mails for many weeks because of this. I think many others are also not sending mails coz the senators replied.

Can someone from core please provide clarity on this? I am requesting clarity just coz I don't want to mess up all the effort by doing wrong things.

If you are from core please reply so that I can start sending mails again.

I just checked the action item thread and for item#3 the post from pappu clearly says:
You do not need to email your Senators if you already got a response from them. If not, it is ok to send the letters multiple times but please use your judgement and do not spam.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/2586064-action-item-hr-3012-week-of-02-20-2012-a.html

[seahawks]

I am doing it once every 10 days or so, by using my judgement. I have gotten responses from Senators too, but I did not want to spam them every day.

The other action items are critical where you contact friends, families and posting flyers in building awareness and yes contributing and asking everyone else to contribute. I am interpreting the action items to be equally important. When more people start coming in, increasing awareness, contribution and contacting lawmakers, it makes IV's presence felt more and helps with the negotiating process. I am sure that is what IV core also is looking for us to do.

[dts]

This is another pick from the O law firm. We have to remember that there will be oppositions. That is the only reason we are having action items and asking everybody to join the fight by contributing/emailing etc. Yes there will be oppositions but our goals are clear and we will fight. IV leaders have assured us that the fight is going on pretty strong so dont loose heart over such news. Its ok to post such material here but dont get caught up with this. If the racer starts to think of fatigue while running what happens?? Lets just focus our full hearts to the goal and that is "seeing the message from IV that our bill has been put on the schedule and then the "pass" results". Its not a request to blind yourself from realities but rather a practical approach and introduction of clarity into your thought process. Its ok to read these negative news but take that with not a pich but a handful of salt!! What is the gurantee that the posts are true and if they are indeed true do we really know that the oposition is that strong "remember the huge victory in the house". All our mental energy should be focused on victory and only then we will win. Remember taking gruelling exams during college? Focus on victory and not likelihood of failure which is useless. As regular members its also our duty to inspire the IV leaders to continue the fight. If we behave as winers then where will their energy come from. We are all adults ( I hope!) so let us motivate each other even after we get the 3012 passed.


Yes. Let us focus on AI and get more friends on Action Items.. Call personally and explain to involve in contributions and AI. In the link about Irish E-3 , there is nothing negative for HR3012 core issues. Everyone including opponents have no strong arguments against HR3012 because that is truth.
TRUTH ALWAYS WINS. There is no doubt that this bill will become law of this land. Only thing we have to focus is to bring more people in it.

[gopalaj]

Done AI for today :)

[gk_2000]

.....IV started an initiative in 2010,file I485 if PD is not current.We wanted 5000 folks but after running this campaign for almot a year we ended up with less than 2000 folks......

Simple question: whether such a survey was done before starting the 3012 initiative, or ANY OTHER? Sorry IV, I personally feel touched at a raw nerve whenever someone brings this up..

[pappu]

I am doing it once every 10 days or so, by using my judgement. I have gotten responses from Senators too, but I did not want to spam them every day.

The other action items are critical where you contact friends, families and posting flyers in building awareness and yes contributing and asking everyone else to contribute. I am interpreting the action items to be equally important. When more people start coming in, increasing awareness, contribution and contacting lawmakers, it makes IV's presence felt more and helps with the negotiating process. I am sure that is what IV core also is looking for us to do.

That is correct. Please use your judgement. Do not spam. You can send after few days if you got a response. It also depends on what kind of response you are getting. If it a response saying the senator supports the bill and will vote for it, no need to write again. If you are getting automated response on general immigration or not giving enough information on the position, you could follow up by writing again and clarifying why this bill is important to us. Each case is unique so one has to use judgement. The important thing is to be persistent.

[vsrinir]

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[vsrinir]

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[Suva]

Done AI today.

[praskar]

Completed Action items for today - did the necessary emails and "liked" the pages. I say at this point guys, venting out our frustration isn't going to help. Let's continue to do the AI that Pappy specified and pray for the best.

Remember, we are not being held captive in the US so for those who feel that the frustration and tension is getting to them, you are always free to move back to your own country and live without tension.

[psychedelicNerd]

Completed Action items for today - did the necessary emails and "liked" the pages. I say at this point guys, venting out our frustration isn't going to help. Let's continue to do the AI that Pappy specified and pray for the best.

Remember, we are not being held captive in the US so for those who feel that the frustration and tension is getting to them, you are always free to move back to your own country and live without tension.

Wish it was that easy. The tension and frustration is justified for all of us. And we are not demanding GC in hand. We are just demanding the wait to be fair. As for the poster who asked whether asking Grassley to remove the hold is practical, well, I am sure the method being pursued is being pursued with persistence and with the efficiency as IV and the lobbyists supporting the bill see fit. There is no stated "practical" way of doing it. It's a political situation and should be (probably is) being handled diligence and persistence.

Let's hope for the best. I hope H.R. 3012 becomes a law soon. God willing it will.

[neel_gump]

HR3012 is to end inequality , restore equality and stop discrimination based on the nationality of origin for skill based employment visas.


Super LIKE!!! I gave you a green for this BOLD statement :D

[praskar]

Wish it was that easy. The tension and frustration is justified for all of us. And we are not demanding GC in hand. We are just demanding the wait to be fair. As for the poster who asked whether asking Grassley to remove the hold is practical, well, I am sure the method being pursued is being pursued with persistence and with the efficiency as IV and the lobbyists supporting the bill see fit. There is no stated "practical" way of doing it. It's a political situation and should be (probably is) being handled diligence and persistence.

Let's hope for the best. I hope H.R. 3012 becomes a law soon. God willing it will.

Oh I agree with everything you say. Just that, I don't think we should let this 3012 totally consume our thoughts and we put all our eggs in this one basket. I'm confident it will pass, but as we can see, it's taking a lot of time.

[psychedelicNerd]

I do not know if this should be confidential or public information. I keep reading on various sites that such and such senators showed support for such and such bill. Is there a list of senators anywhere that currently have shown support for H.R. 3012? Ignore my message if this is something that should not be discussed openly or brought out loud in the open forums. I was just curious.

[vdlrao]

Iowa senator's 'hold' endangering Startup Visa Act - Omaha.com (http://www.omaha.com/article/20120227/MONEY07/302279897/0)


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[dts]

Busy with ALL Action Items and reaching others ...
Tweet @USAbravo ...


Together IV (I+We) All Will Succeed
VOTE YES HR3012 (@USAbravo) on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/USAbravo)

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@USAbravo HR3012 is like changing 3+2=5 to 2+3=5. Does fair technical fix without changing total visa numbers. Support it.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[Suva]

Done AI today.

[neel_gump]

I do not know if this should be confidential or public information. I keep reading on various sites that such and such senators showed support for such and such bill. Is there a list of senators anywhere that currently have shown support for H.R. 3012? Ignore my message if this is something that should not be discussed openly or brought out loud in the open forums. I was just curious.

Any news update today?

[gk_2000]

White House, Republicans talk compromise - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/29/politics/obama-congress-detente/index.html)

[gujju]

White House, Republicans talk compromise - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/29/politics/obama-congress-detente/index.html)

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .

[sdeshpan]

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .
Yep, looks like the JOBS ACT only has some other 5-6 bills in the package, nothing about HR 3012. May be IV should look at getting our bill into that package.

http://majorityleader.gov/uploadedfiles/JOBSActOnePager.pdf

[gk_2000]

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .

I kind-of hoped it is included among the start-up, small-business etc legislation..

[dts]

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .

This is something encouraging although it does nto specify HR3012 specifically.
However it tells that there is something going on bills passed by house with bipartisan support. H3012 falls in this category.
Let us not frustred or disappoint by delay. Let us keep momentum up.
I have faith on IV leadership that they might be on top of all this happenings.

[amulchandra]

I do not see any updates or bumps to HR 3012 related threads. I am wondering are we playing dead or really dead? Couldn't stop myself from posting this. Sorry.

[dkshitij]

I am very proud of the hard work and persistence of IV. All my frustration and anger is directed towards the politicians who have not shown enough political will or leadership. But given the right framing and opportunity they will act. So we have to continue to push and work hard and make it possible for them to vote on it.

We should not care if there is media hype about our bill. If it is talked about in all the news outlet etc. We should only care if the politicians are hearing us out and moving towards passing the bill. All the info that IV has given us indicates that we are moving in the right direction. So let us keeping on marching!

[Suva]

Done AI today.

HR3012 might be on the Senate floor soon as jobs bills are next on the agenda as per the article below.

Boehner describes Obama meeting with congressional leaders as constructive - TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/213385-boehner-describes-obama-meeting-with-leaders-as-constructive)

[DallasBlue]

Done AI today.

HR3012 might be on the Senate floor soon as jobs bills are next on the agenda as per the article below.

Boehner describes Obama meeting with congressional leaders as constructive - TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/213385-boehner-describes-obama-meeting-with-leaders-as-constructive)

Part of 'Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth' , the gentlemen from Iowa should remove the hold , because ,


HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors and programmers to get job mobility and go on to research new products and services

will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the economy

will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve economy, (will also bloster the housing loans market )

will help them spend more with the greater sense of security then they will have now

will make the best and brightest to be remain here and rather than compete or start companies elsewhere

will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally




cant think more at this time,some of the above points may be bad , can you all guys add or improve upon these points

[DallasBlue]

did i add that , i will start my start my company in Iowa if HR3012 passes or not.
May be yo'll should start biotech, hedge fund, finance solutions , etc companies in Iowa too :-)

[dts]

Speculating:

Ways to pass HR 3012:

1. Grassley uncle removes the hold, it passes Senate with a fillibuster proof majority.
2. Invoke cloture.
3. Add HR 3012 to jobs bill or other popular bills once they have cleared house.

What about Irish issue? Isn't that also a hurdle? or is it useful weapon?
Irish lobby and their supporter senators have taken H.R.3012 as hostage to pass their own provisions since three months.

Several websites which are pro Irish , claim that Irish lobby is very powerful . But since three months they are not able to get support from Senators for
their provisions.

Should IV start action Item to pressurize and convince Senators ( Chuck Schummer, Scott Brown ???) who are holding H.R.3012 to include Irish provision.

IV should work out plan to convince Senators to drop controversial amendments in non controversial bill and get bill for voting or cloture as early as possible.
Except few Senators, no one is in oppose of 3012. It can easily pass cloture.

I am just giving suggestions and my opinion for which people may not agree and it is up to Ultimately IV team to decide on AI.

[floridasun]

Com'on guys, Congress does NOT want to pass anything that will help, even a tiny bit, high-skilled INDIANS. Period. End of Story.

[gk_2000]

Let's sit and pray for the Grass to get eaten by a holy cow ... and let the cow get constipated because of hold

[shining]

"It's always darkest before it turns absolutely pitch black."-
Things were already dark on 3012 and are getting darker--Paul Newman

Hope there is light at the end of the tunnel-however as Metallica song goes--

Then it comes to be that the soothing light
At the end of your tunnel
It's just a freight train comin your way . . .

Cheers Shining-

[gk_2000]

"It's always darkest before it turns absolutely pitch black."-
Things were already dark on 3012 and are getting darker--Paul Newman

Hope there is light at the end of the tunnel-however as Metallica song goes--

Then it comes to be that the soothing light
At the end of your tunnel
It's just a freight train comin your way . . .

Cheers Shining-

let the train contain a load of gober to dump on the grass

[happyfeet]

Dear Friends

In the total Employment based visa categories, EB3 is the only group that is deprived and having huge backlog. I could see that the issue was brought to notice of White house as mentioned in the below link.

" Legal Employment-based Immigration Petitioners Help U.S. Companies and Should NOT be Heavily Backlogged for Years"

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/legal-employment-based-immigration-petitioners-help-us-companies-and-should-not-be-heavily/1NLS8G5c

We all should vote for this petition to have a resolution.

[gcindia123]

Hello Friends,

I am really surprised why senator schumer is not bringing up HR 3012 on the floor.

If we see in house of representatives Democrates(191) are minority party and Republicans(242) are majority and both the parties took a great/fair decision and supported and approved the bill.

But if we see in the senate Democrates(53) are majority and Republicans(47) are minority party and even democrates are majority they are still afraid to bring the hr3012 bill on the floor. I am not able to understand why democrates are scared to bring that bill on the floor.

I feel senator schumer is not a great politician when compared to Rep Chaffetz, Jason(sponsor of hr3012) from house of rep. Rep Chaffetz, Jason has done a great job in House of Rep.

Even though Senator schumer is Immigration committee chairman, he is still struggling to convince his Republicans friends in the senate. He just need to convince 7 senators from Republicans to support this bill and vote for it.

Lets hope IV will expedite the bill next week and bring good news for EB3I(who are the unlucky human beings in the GC process).

Go IV Go.
Looking forward IV for another success.

[senram]

The incidents in the article given below always will give trouble to any immigration legislation.

Engineer's wife 'ferocious' in Obama Q&A on H-1Bs - Computerworld (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9223975/Engineer_s_wife_ferocious_in_Obama_Q_A_on_H_1Bs?ta xonomyId=72&pageNumber=2)


Companies also responsible for these situations. Actually 2008 collapse created major problem for immigration reform.

Hello Friends,

I am really surprised why senator schumer is not bringing up HR 3012 on the floor.

If we see in house of representatives Democrates(191) are minority party and Republicans(242) are majority and both the parties took a great/fair decision and supported and approved the bill.

But if we see in the senate Democrates(53) are majority and Republicans(47) are minority party and even democrates are majority they are still afraid to bring the hr3012 bill on the floor. I am not able to understand why democrates are scared to bring that bill on the floor.

I feel senator schumer is not a great politician when compared to Rep Chaffetz, Jason(sponsor of hr3012) from house of rep. Rep Chaffetz, Jason has done a great job in House of Rep.

Even though Senator schumer is Immigration committee chairman, he is still struggling to convince his Republicans friends in the senate. He just need to convince 7 senators from Republicans to support this bill and vote for it.

Lets hope IV will expedite the bill next week and bring good news for EB3I(who are the unlucky human beings in the GC process).

Go IV Go.
Looking forward IV for another success.

[gcindia123]

Hello Friends,

I guess everyone of us need to sign the below petition. I signed it yesterday.



Dear Friends

In the total Employment based visa categories, EB3 is the only group that is deprived and having huge backlog. I could see that the issue was brought to notice of White house as mentioned in the below link.

" Legal Employment-based Immigration Petitioners Help U.S. Companies and Should NOT be Heavily Backlogged for Years"

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/legal-employment-based-immigration-petitioners-help-us-companies-and-should-not-be-heavily/1NLS8G5c

We all should vote for this petition to have a resolution.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

I dont see any updates this week from IV.

I found that my action items posting also got deleted which I posted yesterday. Looks like IV wants to be away from its volunteer members...but i dont think they do that...I have confidence in IV

[PennId]

Hello Friends,

I guess everyone of us need to sign the below petition. I signed it yesterday.
This is the easiest petition that I ever have signed. Thanks for sharing the link. The good thing about this petition is you are sending directly to Obama administration and depending upon number of petitioners; it might be possible to fix this discrimination issue by the administration. Also, I shared this petition link in my facebook and twitter account as well.

[dts]

Com'on guys, Congress does NOT want to pass anything that will help, even a tiny bit, high-skilled INDIANS. Period. End of Story.

From Norman Vincent Perl :

Assume success and tend to success.
Assume failure and tend to failure.

Work hard and intelligently, do your part . Practice believing and hold picture of success firmly in your thoughts and success will pass by.

Faith and positive thinking are chief quality we need. It is enough. In fact, it is more than enough.

Simply attack each difficulties with an optimistic attitude and a sure confidence that it will work out right.

[ebizash]

This is the easiest petition that I ever have signed. Thanks for sharing the link. The good thing about this petition is you are sending directly to Obama administration and depending upon number of petitioners; it might be possible to fix this discrimination issue by the administration. Also, I shared this petition link in my facebook and twitter account as well.

Did you even read the petition? It was created on Sept 22,2011 and needed certain number of signatures by Oct 23, 2011. So your signing today probably will not help much...

I am not discouraging from signing this or any other petition but just pointing out that this is an old petition which is probably already sitting in archives somewhere.

[dts]

Did you even read the petition? It was created on Sept 22,2011 and needed certain number of signatures by Oct 23, 2011. So your signing today probably will not help much...

I am not discouraging from signing this or any other petition but just pointing out that this is an old petition which is probably already sitting in archives somewhere.

Yes, This is old petition.
IV Leaders, can you create new petition with latest contents so people can sign in and our voice can be heard up to White House?

[pappu]

Yes, This is old petition.
IV Leaders, can you create new petition with latest contents so people can sign in and our voice can be heard up to White House?

Laws are passed by congress. President only signs. President already wants to help. Check his published opinion on our issues.
So such random petitions will not help at all at this time . Please do the IV action items so that emails reach our senators.

[Suva]

Pappu, why the action item thread is not on the front page?

Laws are passed by congress. President only signs. President already wants to help. Check his published opinion on our issues.
So such random petitions will not help at all at this time . Please do the IV action items so that emails reach our senators.

[DallasBlue]

how about calling senators campaign ?


ILW.COM - immigration news: Adjustment Of Status Interview After Decades (http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0702-mehta.shtm)

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0702-mehta.shtm

This writer has not yet been able to comprehend the math, but if it is likely to take decades for permanent residency to materialize, it means anywhere from 10 year to 90 years. Jeff Gorsky of the State Department Visa Office told the India interest group luncheon at the AILA Annual Conference in Las Vegas on June 5, 2009 that the EB-2 wait could be at least 40 years and the EB-3 wait a few decades longer. Let’s hope that our State Department mandarins are wrong on the math. Regardless, even a 10 year plus wait for an EB-2 or EB-3 applicant would be very problematic. How can an employer possibly keep a job offer open for so long? It would be cruel to deprive the potential immigrant of job mobility, such as promotions or even job flexibility with new employers. Moreover, the technology described in the job description may well get obsolete over the years and decades.

But assuming in the extreme case that it takes a few decades, say 40 years, let’s contemplate a scenario where one of our firm’s clients requires representation at the Adjustment of Status interview in 2049. Here is how the conversation might flow between yours truly and a client 40 years later: [/QUOTE]

[dts]

how about calling senators campaign ?


ILW.COM - immigration news: Adjustment Of Status Interview After Decades (http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0702-mehta.shtm)

ILW.COM - immigration news: Adjustment Of Status Interview After Decades (http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0702-mehta.shtm)

This writer has not yet been able to comprehend the math, but if it is likely to take decades for permanent residency to materialize, it means anywhere from 10 year to 90 years. Jeff Gorsky of the State Department Visa Office told the India interest group luncheon at the AILA Annual Conference in Las Vegas on June 5, 2009 that the EB-2 wait could be at least 40 years and the EB-3 wait a few decades longer. Let’s hope that our State Department mandarins are wrong on the math. Regardless, even a 10 year plus wait for an EB-2 or EB-3 applicant would be very problematic. How can an employer possibly keep a job offer open for so long? It would be cruel to deprive the potential immigrant of job mobility, such as promotions or even job flexibility with new employers. Moreover, the technology described in the job description may well get obsolete over the years and decades.

But assuming in the extreme case that it takes a few decades, say 40 years, let’s contemplate a scenario where one of our firm’s clients requires representation at the Adjustment of Status interview in 2049. Here is how the conversation might flow between yours truly and a client 40 years later: [/QUOTE]


IV leaders can decide on adding AI to :
1) call Senators
2) To send messages to Senate majority and minority leaders ( also Chuck schummer )to proceed for voting/cloture motion.
We do not know what is going on background.
Only IV core team can advise and we should follow them.

[dts]

how about calling senators campaign ?


ILW.COM - immigration news: Adjustment Of Status Interview After Decades (http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0702-mehta.shtm)

ILW.COM - immigration news: Adjustment Of Status Interview After Decades (http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0702-mehta.shtm)

This writer has not yet been able to comprehend the math, but if it is likely to take decades for permanent residency to materialize, it means anywhere from 10 year to 90 years. Jeff Gorsky of the State Department Visa Office told the India interest group luncheon at the AILA Annual Conference in Las Vegas on June 5, 2009 that the EB-2 wait could be at least 40 years and the EB-3 wait a few decades longer. Let’s hope that our State Department mandarins are wrong on the math. Regardless, even a 10 year plus wait for an EB-2 or EB-3 applicant would be very problematic. How can an employer possibly keep a job offer open for so long? It would be cruel to deprive the potential immigrant of job mobility, such as promotions or even job flexibility with new employers. Moreover, the technology described in the job description may well get obsolete over the years and decades.

But assuming in the extreme case that it takes a few decades, say 40 years, let’s contemplate a scenario where one of our firm’s clients requires representation at the Adjustment of Status interview in 2049. Here is how the conversation might flow between yours truly and a client 40 years later: [/QUOTE]


IV leaders can decide on adding AI to :
1) call Senators
2) To send messages to Senate majority and minority leaders ( also Chuck schummer )to proceed for voting/cloture motion.
We do not know what is going on background.
Only IV core team can advise and we should follow them.

[tracka]

IV leaders can decide on adding AI to :
1) call Senators
2) To send messages to Senate majority and minority leaders ( also Chuck schummer )to proceed for voting/cloture motion.
We do not know what is going on background.
Only IV core team can advise and we should follow them.[/QUOTE]

hi IV Admins, As there is Significant delay in getting HR 3012 passed, if we can also parallel to get some relief done for our EB2 and EB3 folks. It doesn't hurt us doing anything in parallel.

1. To enable candidates to file 485 and able to get EAD and AP. Treat the PD as the dates of issuing GC.
2. To reduce the 221g cases as lot of people are getting stuck with 221g and IV never had any action item to solve this.
3. To stop diversity visa and allocate those 55K Visas to the EB category, that will help reducing EB2 and EB3 backlog.

There are some petitions created

eg:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/legal-employment-based-immigration-petitioners-help-us-companies-and-should-not-be-heavily/1NLS8G5c


https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/why-qualified-working-professionals-are-being-stopped-name-221g-when-they-visit-their-family-abroad/0msdNHvv#thank-you=p

I request all of us to support these petitions.

[tracka]

IV leaders can decide on adding AI to :
1) call Senators
2) To send messages to Senate majority and minority leaders ( also Chuck schummer )to proceed for voting/cloture motion.
We do not know what is going on background.
Only IV core team can advise and we should follow them.[/QUOTE]




IV leaders can decide on adding AI to :
1) call Senators
2) To send messages to Senate majority and minority leaders ( also Chuck schummer )to proceed for voting/cloture motion.
We do not know what is going on background.
Only IV core team can advise and we should follow them.[/QUOTE]

hi IV Admins, As there is Significant delay in getting HR 3012 passed, if we can also parallel to get some relief done for our EB2 and EB3 folks. It doesn't hurt us doing anything in parallel.

1. To enable candidates to file 485 and able to get EAD and AP. Treat the PD as the dates of issuing GC.
2. To reduce the 221g cases as lot of people are getting stuck with 221g and IV never had any action item to solve this.
3. To stop diversity visa and allocate those 55K Visas to the EB category, that will help reducing EB2 and EB3 backlog.

There are some petitions created

eg:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/legal-employment-based-immigration-petitioners-help-us-companies-and-should-not-be-heavily/1NLS8G5c


https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/why-qualified-working-professionals-are-being-stopped-name-221g-when-they-visit-their-family-abroad/0msdNHvv#thank-you=p

I request all of us to support these petitions.

[PennId]

Legislative branch: The United States Congress is the legislative branch of the federal government. It is bicameral, comprising the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Executive branch:The executive power in the federal government is vested in the President of the United States, although power is often delegated to the Cabinet members and other officials.

Judicial branch: The Judiciary explains and applies the laws. This branch does this by hearing and eventually making decisions on various legal cases.

Any of the above branches can pass the bill(s) or law(s) depends upon constitutional basis. The Supreme Court, in its turn, has the power to invalidate as "unconstitutional" any law passed by the Congress. The executive branch, Mr. President, has the power to veto any law passed by the Congress. The Judicial and Executive branch can pass a law without a Legislative branch assistance or interference. There are handful of laws which you can find when you google it.

[PennId]

Laws are passed by congress. President only signs. President already wants to help. Check his published opinion on our issues.
So such random petitions will not help at all at this time . Please do the IV action items so that emails reach our senators.
Legislative branch: The United States Congress is the legislative branch of the federal government. It is bicameral, comprising the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Executive branch:The executive power in the federal government is vested in the President of the United States, although power is often delegated to the Cabinet members and other officials.

Judicial branch: The Judiciary explains and applies the laws. This branch does this by hearing and eventually making decisions on various legal cases.

Any of the above branches can pass the bill(s) or law(s) depends upon constitutional basis. The Supreme Court, in its turn, has the power to invalidate as "unconstitutional" any law passed by the Congress. The executive branch, Mr. President, has the power to veto any law passed by the Congress. The Judicial and Executive branch can pass a law without a Legislative branch assistance or interference. There are handful of laws which you can find when you google it.

[vsrinir]

No one is talking about any thing about HR 3012 including IV

[bibliophile2020]

Dude, I think you are the only one keeping this thread alive. Congrats!

[amulchandra]

No one is talking about any thing about HR 3012 including IV

Yes I feel the same too. This bill gave hope to a lot of people but looks like there is not much progress after the hold.

[gc_check]

Yes, See nothing on the news or forums on this bill, but do you folks really think, the people who fought so much in the house, etc will just slow down ? No, they are going to fight even harder. But no one said it is going to be easy in the senate.. We need to keep fighting ... Just do the AI's that you can and help the guys leading the effort. We might see some light at the end....

[sac-r-ten]

Pardon my ignorance, but is there a deadline for this to get on floor or when does the house session ends?

thank you,

[madhu345]

But in order to motivate people we need core team to post some periodic updates, atleast to keep hopes alive :p

[shouldIwait]

From how everything appears, there are good chances that HR3012 is already dead. If it is or if it is NOT, IV core should provide an update, even if it is just to say that they are continuing the effort.

[senram]

I am sure there must be efforts going on Lobbying and other ways. It will be dead if nothing happens for the bill before the end of the year. IV update will be cut and Paste of the update in the starting of the thread.

From how everything appears, there are good chances that HR3012 is already dead. If it is or if it is NOT, IV core should provide an update, even if it is just to say that they are continuing the effort.

[bibliophile2020]

We hear about what Scott Brown says about E2 Irish bill on this forum, but nothing about what Jason Chaffetz ( he is the sponsor of the bill) thinks about the bill stalled in the senate and held hostage by the Irish lobby. I hope they didn't bailed on us. Only thing that gives me some hope is a bill to prevent internet child pornography sitting in the house for the last couple of months. When something like this could be delayed, there is no wonder HR 3012 is making a snail proud. I think only people who could push this bill are corporate america "if" they think we matter to their bottom line. Otherwise why would some one care about the plight of few thousand people.

[praskar]

But in order to motivate people we need core team to post some periodic updates, atleast to keep hopes alive :p

Are you for real?!

The IV Core team's job is helping pushing the 3012 bill, and they're doing an amazing job. I don't believe they are accountable for keeping our hopes alive - what do you want Pappi and others to say... "ooh, the bill is in a good place", "ooh there is light at the end of the tunnel".....

At this point, we only know what we know. We should diligently do AIs and keep the faith. But expecting IV to update us is really pushing it. They'll give us updates if there's anything to give.

[dts]

Are you for real?!

The IV Core team's job is helping pushing the 3012 bill, and they're doing an amazing job. I don't believe they are accountable for keeping our hopes alive - what do you want Pappi and others to say... "ooh, the bill is in a good place", "ooh there is light at the end of the tunnel".....

At this point, we only know what we know. We should diligently do AIs and keep the faith. But expecting IV to update us is really pushing it. They'll give us updates if there's anything to give.

I agree with
"But in order to motivate people we need core team to post some periodic updates, atleast to keep hopes alive"

It is undestood that IV can not update daily. But few encouraging words will prevent people from going away from these efforts.
IV should update or say few words to keep people and efforts in.

[vishalgupta2]

I agree with
"But in order to motivate people we need core team to post some periodic updates, atleast to keep hopes alive"

It is undestood that IV can not update daily. But few encouraging words will prevent people from going away from these efforts.
IV should update or say few words to keep people and efforts in.

I second this. I also understand the IV can not update daily, but to be honest, I have already assumed HR 3012 to be dead and you can say otherwise but I can tell you many more people have also assumed it to be dead.

IV core will have to find a midway to keep people enthusiastic and share some info instead of just saying we are working every few days.

We all need to understand that we are dealing with people like me who don't really have much trust that anything will change with the immigration system and with nothing happening for so many months it only makes it easier to give up.

I am pretty sure that I will have 20 posts replying mine saying I am a supported or Irish Visa or I am ROW or what not.

[skrish]

Dont mean to divert the already sparse attention but cwhat happened to the H4 EAD proposed rule change.

View Rule (http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201104&RIN=1615-AB92)

should be due now and should provide at least some releif to some of the folks ..

[dkshitij]

I think it is childish to expect legislation related updates on an open website where visitor's identity hasn't been verified. Given the election year cycle, the time remaining to pass our bill is very short - maybe a couple of months at most? So yes, realistically, it may not be passed this year or until the elections are over with. Not all is lost. IV and all of us have learned so much from this experience and it will be put to good use in future.

[praskar]

Dont mean to divert the already sparse attention but cwhat happened to the H4 EAD proposed rule change.

View Rule (http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201104&RIN=1615-AB92)

should be due now and should provide at least some releif to some of the folks ..

has this been approved?

[shining]

I second this. I also understand the IV can not update daily, but to be honest, I have already assumed HR 3012 to be dead and you can say otherwise but I can tell you many more people have also assumed it to be dead.

IV core will have to find a midway to keep people enthusiastic and share some info instead of just saying we are working every few days.

We all need to understand that we are dealing with people like me who don't really have much trust that anything will change with the immigration system and with nothing happening for so many months it only makes it easier to give up.

I am pretty sure that I will have 20 posts replying mine saying I am a supported or Irish Visa or I am ROW or what not.


Agree with you --3012 is a dead horse now, this dog ain't gonna hunt . . .

Cheers Shining

[vishalgupta2]

has this been approved?

If you click the link, it shows:
Agenda Stage of Rulemaking: Proposed Rule Stage

From this, I think it's still proposed, not approved.

[gcnov2002]

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[vishalgupta2]

I think it is childish to expect legislation related updates on an open website where visitor's identity hasn't been verified. Given the election year cycle, the time remaining to pass our bill is very short - maybe a couple of months at most? So yes, realistically, it may not be passed this year or until the elections are over with. Not all is lost. IV and all of us have learned so much from this experience and it will be put to good use in future.

If it's not passed this calendar year. All is lost. Congress lasts for 2 calendar years and all the bills which are not approved at the end of 2 years are dropped on the floor.

[praskar]

If you click the link, it shows:
Agenda Stage of Rulemaking: Proposed Rule Stage

From this, I think it's still proposed, not approved.

It's been proposed forever though hasn't it? I doubt anything's going to come out of it.

[dts]

If it's not passed this calendar year. All is lost. Congress lasts for 2 calendar years and all the bills which are not approved at the end of 2 years are dropped on the floor.

If you are frustred, tired and defeated, pls do not spread it to others. When IV admin told two days back that lobbying efforts are on... keep faith and do AI.
Bill which has wide support ,can not simply die due to one person objection. It can be delayed but can not be simply thrown to dust bin.

[vishalgupta2]

If you are frustred, tired and defeated, pls do not spread it to others. When IV admin told two days back that lobbying efforts are on... keep faith and do AI.
Bill which has wide support ,can not simply die due to one person objection. It can be delayed but can not be simply thrown to dust bin.

I am not the first one who has said this. This is getting obvious around here that many of us are getting tired and defeated. I know that pappu said that lobbying efforts are ON a few days back.

This said, why would you think no one will be desperate when nothing has changed since Nov 2011?

[bpratap]

I am not the first one who has said this. This is getting obvious around here that many of us are getting tired and defeated. I know that pappu said that lobbying efforts are ON a few days back.

This said, why would you think no one will be desperate when nothing has changed since Nov 2011?

Guys,

Most of us know of the bill HR 3012 around September/October of 2011. How many of us know that IV Core was working on the background for over a YEAR to get a bill drafted with least controversial provisions and brought to the floor of congress ?

When IV Core is saying work in ON, Trust them. Lets do our part of the effort by doing the action Items IV Core have recommended. It may sound silly to do the daily action Items, but it does have a greater impact than we think.

Cheer up guys for our last LAP !

[lost_in_migration]

INCREASING IMMIGRATION COULD HELP U.S. ECONOMY | UTSanDiego.com (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/04/tp-increasing-immigration-could-help-us-economy/)

[sorcerer666]

Guys,

Most of us know of the bill HR 3012 around September/October of 2011. How many of us know that IV Core was working on the background for over a YEAR to get a bill drafted with least controversial provisions and brought to the floor of congress ?

When IV Core is saying work in ON, Trust them. Lets do our part of the effort by doing the action Items IV Core have recommended. It may sound silly to do the daily action Items, but it does have a greater impact than we think.

Cheer up guys for our last LAP !

Isn't this what is called blind faith??

[greyhair]

Isn't this what is called blind faith??

Because every faith is blind, one days "Faith" is "blind" only if you talk in 3rd person i.e. about someone else. When you write (and think) in first person, its always just plain "faith".

You don't have to believe anything. If for you think that this bill won't go anywhere, then just do what is right for you. Maybe you should start working on another bill which you believe you can get done.

For me, I will just do what is being asked because I agree with Bpratape that it took long time, an year, for the bill to pass in the House, even though we were aware of it for only 2 months prior to bill passing the House.

I can understand that everything going on cannot be posted in open forum as most of these discussions are private. If IV start posting daily updates, it will lose friends and decision-makers will stop trusting and will stop all good faith discussions.

These guys have brought a bill all the way to the last step, and I have no doubt that they are working behind the scenes. Take it or leave it, its our individual choice.

[thomachan72]

These are tough times. IV has not and cannot produce any meaningful updates and few of our members are anxious or confused or have given up hope. Those of us who know the difficulty of this process should make sure we are not distracted by the "crying kid syndrome". Lot of folks who want to see the bill dead and also destroy the passion you and me have for supporting this bill immediately join with these "crying babies" and spill their hurt in negative, pesimistic posts. We have to learn to ignore such posts. Ofcourse there is a chance that the bill migh not go anywhere but the question is "is that what we want"??? If so then yes lets put our hopes for that to happen. On the other hand if passing 3012 is what you REALLY WANT then there is no point in crying and wining about the delay, is there?? Think carefully about it. You and me are adults, right?? we are not kids anymore. My only request is that we should "MAN up" and reduce the childishness in us during such times. Most of the negative/pesimistic posts are from those who have only a few total posts indicating that they are either new to IV or have not really understood the process. This is not like going into a wendys an getting a burger. It takes time and risk of failure is always there so our support is all the more important. Keep supporting and reduce whining. If the bill is dead then IV will inform you about it so dont loose hope. keep up the good work. ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO HOLD ON TO HOPE DURING TIMES OF DESPAIR. WE WILL GET THERE, DONT WORRY.

[ananth]

If you have something to help, pls say it (evenif it is as simple as "Done AI for today"),
If You have nothing to help, pls stay quiet (still you are helping...!!!). I do this most of the time

[sorcerer666]

If you have something to help, pls say it (evenif it is as simple as "Done AI for today"),
If You have nothing to help, pls stay quiet (still you are helping...!!!). I do this most of the time

except this time :p

[dts]

These are tough times. IV has not and cannot produce any meaningful updates and few of our members are anxious or confused or have given up hope. Those of us who know the difficulty of this process should make sure we are not distracted by the "crying kid syndrome". Lot of folks who want to see the bill dead and also destroy the passion you and me have for supporting this bill immediately join with these "crying babies" and spill their hurt in negative, pesimistic posts. We have to learn to ignore such posts. Ofcourse there is a chance that the bill migh not go anywhere but the question is "is that what we want"??? If so then yes lets put our hopes for that to happen. On the other hand if passing 3012 is what you REALLY WANT then there is no point in crying and wining about the delay, is there?? Think carefully about it. You and me are adults, right?? we are not kids anymore. My only request is that we should "MAN up" and reduce the childishness in us during such times. Most of the negative/pesimistic posts are from those who have only a few total posts indicating that they are either new to IV or have not really understood the process. This is not like going into a wendys an getting a burger. It takes time and risk of failure is always there so our support is all the more important. Keep supporting and reduce whining. If the bill is dead then IV will inform you about it so dont loose hope. keep up the good work. ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO HOLD ON TO HOPE DURING TIMES OF DESPAIR. WE WILL GET THERE, DONT WORRY.

very well said thomachan72.

Assume success and tend to success.
Assume failure and tend to failure.
Faith is chief quality we need. It is enough. In fact, it is more than enough.

After hold , bill got placed under rule 14 by dec 15, which was best way to avoid hold.
If Senate leaders did not have any interest, why would they do so?
After that only 6 weeks passed ( excluding holiday calander for Senate). It is not long time. In fact, some people anxiety make them feel 6 weeks like 6 years.
Have faith, do AI, call people to be active and we will get success.

[arung]

As Mr. President responded on Congress to decide on allowing i140 approved waiters to file i485 is depends on congress to pass law.
Based on the process all peoples who filled i485 back in July’2007 are having A# , EAD and are already reached to point where they could have eligible for Citizenship now. All these peoples are already gone through all kind for formalities, approved and proven eligibilities to become permanent resident of USA, stuck in numbers and just waiting for mark to have Green Card but, why this would be necessary if they are already on path to get citizenship.
This is not about just one or two country; this is about the peoples from all over the world in USA for so many years.
Based on Inventory list published back in Jan’ 2012 approx. 105,000 VISA waiters from all over the world should be eligible to apply citizenship and which is depending on their choice to opt for it.
The benefit to having this, all these people also become part and will be able to participate in current precedential elections which they have been watching for so many years.
This will also not require adding additional EB quota and recapturing unused VISA numbers.
This will help to clear backlog to at least year 2007.
This also should not heart any US Citizen as these people are legal resident and working for so many years travelled from each corner of the world and helping US economy and future growth.
By having this option they will be more open and be part of system and true Americans nationals

[sanju_dba]

As Mr. President responded on Congress to decide on allowing i140 approved waiters to file i485 is depends on congress to pass law.
Based on the process all peoples who filled i485 back in July’2007 are having A# , EAD and are already reached to point where they could have eligible for Citizenship now. All these peoples are already gone through all kind for formalities, approved and proven eligibilities to become permanent resident of USA, stuck in numbers and just waiting for mark to have Green Card but, why this would be necessary if they are already on path to get citizenship.
This is not about just one or two country; this is about the peoples from all over the world in USA for so many years.
Based on Inventory list published back in Jan’ 2012 approx. 105,000 VISA waiters from all over the world should be eligible to apply citizenship and which is depending on their choice to opt for it.
The benefit to having this, all these people also become part and will be able to participate in current precedential elections which they have been watching for so many years.
This will also not require adding additional EB quota and recapturing unused VISA numbers.
This will help to clear backlog to at least year 2007.
This also should not heart any US Citizen as these people are legal resident and working for so many years travelled from each corner of the world and helping US economy and future growth.
By having this option they will be more open and be part of system and true Americans nationals

I agree!

In past we have seen , reasonable thoughts were struggled to turn them favorable.
to name them ....July 2007 filing , concurrent filing , now HR3012 , work authorization for H4 etc.
I can understand the wait for consular processing cases, but for 5 year and over AOS pending cases it can be waived off subjected to other checks in place ( like no criminal records etc ).

Its not a outrageous quest, its a reasonable one!

to take this further a polling will encourage ?

[arung]

I truly appreciate all effort of IV team to get HR3012 pass and thank them but, still it is pending as other then INDIA and China peoples, ROW think that this will impact them but having option to get Citizenship for July 2007 filler help all over the world and they should support it. And eventually help to clear backlog..

[Chandini]

What about People who have filed 485 in 2004 and still waiting. Did not GC get approved in 2007 rush ?

They will be given a medal of honor f[/U][/B]or waiting that long:D

and Citizenship too because our friends who filed EB3 have already getting there Citizenship. We are still waiting. There are a lot of people like that.

[GC_wait_weary]

Guys,

Lets keep HR 3012 on the congress website at top 5. That should remind senators

I guess it just takes to search for the the bill.
Here is the web site
THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php)

HR3012 is the best shot we have ever had so far. It is close we need to push our over the edge.

[spicy_guy]

As Mr. President responded on Congress to decide on allowing i140 approved waiters to file i485 is depends on congress to pass law.
Based on the process all peoples who filled i485 back in July’2007 are having A# , EAD and are already reached to point where they could have eligible for Citizenship now. All these peoples are already gone through all kind for formalities, approved and proven eligibilities to become permanent resident of USA, stuck in numbers and just waiting for mark to have Green Card but, why this would be necessary if they are already on path to get citizenship.
This is not about just one or two country; this is about the peoples from all over the world in USA for so many years.
Based on Inventory list published back in Jan’ 2012 approx. 105,000 VISA waiters from all over the world should be eligible to apply citizenship and which is depending on their choice to opt for it.
The benefit to having this, all these people also become part and will be able to participate in current precedential elections which they have been watching for so many years.
This will also not require adding additional EB quota and recapturing unused VISA numbers.
This will help to clear backlog to at least year 2007.
This also should not heart any US Citizen as these people are legal resident and working for so many years travelled from each corner of the world and helping US economy and future growth.
By having this option they will be more open and be part of system and true Americans nationals

I agree this and infact love to see this happening.
After all, its within the stipulated process...

[vshar]

aankhon mein aansu aur dil mein fariyaad
mere pyare senators ab to de do green card

[velagale]

My 2 cents. Well, getting a legislation like HR3012 or for that matter, any legislation passed is not a simple job. Apparently, folks like IV are/will be working towards it, and one should always recognize that there are no guarantees. There is only one thing that any one can do.. ie; Keep trying... and "that" one should never give up.. ever.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today..

[DallasBlue]

My 2 cents. Well, getting a legislation like HR3012 or for that matter, any legislation passed is not a simple job. Apparently, folks like IV are/will be working towards it, and one should always recognize that there are no guarantees. There is only one thing that any one can do.. ie; Keep trying... and "that" one should never give up.. ever.

If you can call your senators office and ask them to pass bill, H.R. 3012, as a part of Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth, Or even better call senator from Iowa, http://www.grassley.senate.gov/iowa/Washington-DC-office.cfm , to remove the hold on their own party sponsored and pushing for bill in senate


http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth:

America has historically been on the cutting edge of innovation and technological development, but we are increasingly falling behind our global competitors. We must make it easier for existing businesses to grow and allow more start-up companies to flourish.


The America Invents Act
H.R. 1249 - Signed into law by the President on September 16, 2011


Veterans Opportunity to Work Act
H.R. 2433 - Signed into law by the President on November 21, 2011


Small Company Capital Formation Act
H.R. 1070 - Senate has taken no action to date


Small Banks' Access to Capital Act
H.R. 1965 - Senate has taken no action to date


Entrepreneur Access to Capital Act
H.R. 2930 - Senate has taken no action to date


Access to Capital for Job Creators Act
H.R. 2940 - Senate has taken no action to date


Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act
H.R. 3012 - Senate has taken no action to date

[Suva]

Done AI today.

[skrish]

Done Tweeting AI Today.

Remeber friends ...

We Will Overcome, We will overcome
We will overcome one day ...

Hum Honge Kamiyaab, Hum Honge Kamiyaab,
Hum Honge Kamiyaab ek din ...

[dts]

If you can call your senators office and ask them to pass bill, H.R. 3012, as a part of Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth, Or even better call senator from Iowa, Washington, DC office (http://www.grassley.senate.gov/iowa/Washington-DC-office.cfm) , to remove the hold on their own party sponsored and pushing for bill in senate


Eric Cantor || Majority Leader || Jobs Legislation Tracker (http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/)

Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth:

America has historically been on the cutting edge of innovation and technological development, but we are increasingly falling behind our global competitors. We must make it easier for existing businesses to grow and allow more start-up companies to flourish.


The America Invents Act
H.R. 1249 - Signed into law by the President on September 16, 2011


Veterans Opportunity to Work Act
H.R. 2433 - Signed into law by the President on November 21, 2011


Small Company Capital Formation Act
H.R. 1070 - Senate has taken no action to date


Small Banks' Access to Capital Act
H.R. 1965 - Senate has taken no action to date


Entrepreneur Access to Capital Act
H.R. 2930 - Senate has taken no action to date


Access to Capital for Job Creators Act
H.R. 2940 - Senate has taken no action to date


Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act
H.R. 3012 - Senate has taken no action to date

Sounds like plan. will do if IV add this as AI.

[gcharry]

I'm looking for action item link and it's difficult to find, and certainly it will be difficult for a new visitor to find the link. I know it involves some work, however Is it possible for IV guys to have a link on top of the page all the time for Action Items which would say Actions Items for today or whatever they think is meaningful rather than a thread?

[donquit]

I'm looking for action item link and it's difficult to find, and certainly it will be difficult for a new visitor to find the link. I know it involves some work, however Is it possible for IV guys to have a link on top of the page all the time for Action Items which would say Actions Items for today or whatever they think is meaningful rather than a thread?

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/2586064-action-item-hr-3012-march-2012-a.html

The action item link is also available on our Support.HR3012 facebook page - see below.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[GC_wait_weary]

HR 3012 was brought to cloture vote in my dream. :o

I never imagined I would see senators In my dream. :) but here I am.

Lets go make it happen. Go IV.

[swarnapuri]

HR 3012 was brought to cloture vote in my dream. :o

I never imagined I would see senators In my dream. :) but here I am.

Lets go make it happen. Go IV.

May your dream come true... soon!

[neel_gump]

HR 3012 was brought to cloture vote in my dream. :o

I never imagined I would see senators In my dream. :) but here I am.

Lets go make it happen. Go IV.

Awesome!! After HR 3012 passes, you can say "dream come true". Go HR 3012!!!

[DallasBlue]

stop dreaming , start acting : make the calls

If you can call your senators office and ask them to pass bill, H.R. 3012, as a part of Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth, Or even better call senator from Iowa, http://www.grassley.senate.gov/iowa/Washington-DC-office.cfm , to remove the hold on their own party sponsored and pushing for bill in senate


http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth:

America has historically been on the cutting edge of innovation and technological development, but we are increasingly falling behind our global competitors. We must make it easier for existing businesses to grow and allow more start-up companies to flourish.


The America Invents Act
H.R. 1249 - Signed into law by the President on September 16, 2011


Veterans Opportunity to Work Act
H.R. 2433 - Signed into law by the President on November 21, 2011


Small Company Capital Formation Act
H.R. 1070 - Senate has taken no action to date


Small Banks' Access to Capital Act
H.R. 1965 - Senate has taken no action to date


Entrepreneur Access to Capital Act
H.R. 2930 - Senate has taken no action to date


Access to Capital for Job Creators Act
H.R. 2940 - Senate has taken no action to date


Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act
H.R. 3012 - Senate has taken no action to date

[dts]

Pappu updated AI today. It mentions just 'Xx '.
What does it mean?

[vsrinir]

CEOs Offer Plan to Revitalize U.S. Economy


IndustryWeek : CEOs Offer Plan to Revitalize U.S. Economy (http://www.industryweek.com/articles/ceos_offer_plan_to_revitalize_u-s-_economy_26770.aspx)


Provisions of the plan include:

A balanced federal budget, excluding interest payments on the debt, within the next five years.
Streamlining the federal regulatory process and withdrawal or modification of each of eight proposed or pending regulations that BRT CEOs have identified as particularly costly and burdensome to business. These include EPA's GHG regulations, hydraulic fracturing, health care taxes and conflict minerals disclosure
Adoption of a competitive U.S. corporate tax rate comparable to the OECD average and competitive territorial tax system similar to the rest of the world. The U.S. corporate tax rate is 39.2%, while the rest of the OECD averages 25.1%.
Executing a strategy to make U.S. energy systems more diverse, more domestic and more efficient. BRT said the government should continue to support renewable energy technologies but should remain "technology neutral - the government should not be in the business of picking winners or losers."
Keeping highly educated foreign students and entrepreneurs in the United States by creating a STEM green card for foreign students who graduate from U.S. universities with advanced degrees in STEM fields, increasing the standard H-1B visa cap from 65,000 to 90,000 and creating an immigrant entrepreneur's visa.
Advancing policies to create a world-class workforce to enable Americans to compete and succeed in the world economy. BRT says it supports streamlining federal workforce training programs and establishing partnerships with community colleges to "align technical skills training with business needs and employment opportunities."

[senram]

CEOs can do opposite also. Minimise outsourcing and layoffs and create demand for Labor. Then automatically there will be demand for labor and h1b will be filled in a day or 2 and compelling reason to increase H1b. Also they have to increase campus hiring and train more people instead of looking 5 year or 10 year experienced people. From 1995 to 2001 the above things happened and congress easily accepted H1b raise and recapture of green card numbers. Walmart or Apple like policy will increase the jobs in countries like China but not in USA.

CEOs Offer Plan to Revitalize U.S. Economy


IndustryWeek : CEOs Offer Plan to Revitalize U.S. Economy (http://www.industryweek.com/articles/ceos_offer_plan_to_revitalize_u-s-_economy_26770.aspx)


Provisions of the plan include:

A balanced federal budget, excluding interest payments on the debt, within the next five years.
Streamlining the federal regulatory process and withdrawal or modification of each of eight proposed or pending regulations that BRT CEOs have identified as particularly costly and burdensome to business. These include EPA's GHG regulations, hydraulic fracturing, health care taxes and conflict minerals disclosure
Adoption of a competitive U.S. corporate tax rate comparable to the OECD average and competitive territorial tax system similar to the rest of the world. The U.S. corporate tax rate is 39.2%, while the rest of the OECD averages 25.1%.
Executing a strategy to make U.S. energy systems more diverse, more domestic and more efficient. BRT said the government should continue to support renewable energy technologies but should remain "technology neutral - the government should not be in the business of picking winners or losers."
Keeping highly educated foreign students and entrepreneurs in the United States by creating a STEM green card for foreign students who graduate from U.S. universities with advanced degrees in STEM fields, increasing the standard H-1B visa cap from 65,000 to 90,000 and creating an immigrant entrepreneur's visa.
Advancing policies to create a world-class workforce to enable Americans to compete and succeed in the world economy. BRT says it supports streamlining federal workforce training programs and establishing partnerships with community colleges to "align technical skills training with business needs and employment opportunities."

[dts]

Done AI today... Hope we hear something from IV admin....

[Gravitation]

Pappu updated AI today. It mentions just 'Xx '.
What does it mean?

Bump.

[bpratap]

CEO's are concerned about how to get new employees to the co, but not what happen to them after they are employed. (not everybody included). Adding H1b is not going to solve the issue of Green Card.

when there is NO Country QUOTA for H1B (which is one feeder to GC Back log), why there is a Country Quota for Employment based Green Card. ? CEO don't speak about that, as that's not in their purview of things to be done.

We have to Step up for ourselves to get the discrimination on the basis of Country of birth to be removed.


CEOs Offer Plan to Revitalize U.S. Economy


IndustryWeek : CEOs Offer Plan to Revitalize U.S. Economy (http://www.industryweek.com/articles/ceos_offer_plan_to_revitalize_u-s-_economy_26770.aspx)


Provisions of the plan include:

A balanced federal budget, excluding interest payments on the debt, within the next five years.
Streamlining the federal regulatory process and withdrawal or modification of each of eight proposed or pending regulations that BRT CEOs have identified as particularly costly and burdensome to business. These include EPA's GHG regulations, hydraulic fracturing, health care taxes and conflict minerals disclosure
Adoption of a competitive U.S. corporate tax rate comparable to the OECD average and competitive territorial tax system similar to the rest of the world. The U.S. corporate tax rate is 39.2%, while the rest of the OECD averages 25.1%.
Executing a strategy to make U.S. energy systems more diverse, more domestic and more efficient. BRT said the government should continue to support renewable energy technologies but should remain "technology neutral - the government should not be in the business of picking winners or losers."
Keeping highly educated foreign students and entrepreneurs in the United States by creating a STEM green card for foreign students who graduate from U.S. universities with advanced degrees in STEM fields, increasing the standard H-1B visa cap from 65,000 to 90,000 and creating an immigrant entrepreneur's visa.
Advancing policies to create a world-class workforce to enable Americans to compete and succeed in the world economy. BRT says it supports streamlining federal workforce training programs and establishing partnerships with community colleges to "align technical skills training with business needs and employment opportunities."

[memyselfandus]

Pappu updated AI today. It mentions just 'Xx '.
What does it mean?

Crossed fingers for good luck in an online conversation. Source urban dictionary.....

[RaOne2011]

I think the "XX" was just to bump the thread to the top :D Wish it was more than that!!

[pappu]

Pappu updated AI today. It mentions just 'Xx '.
What does it mean?

It means it's hot:D

[dts]

It means it's hot:D

Nice to hear after long time from Pappu. People were escaping from this forum thinking 3012 is no more.
Seems like we are alive and still in race.
Friends, get enrgized , do not give up until goal is achieved.

[pappu]

Nice to hear after long time from Pappu. People were escaping from this forum thinking 3012 is no more.
Seems like we are alive and still in race.
Friends, get enrgized , do not give up until goal is achieved.

If they are 'escaping' then hr 3012 is not important to them. We are not holding anyone for them to escape. There is no gain or loss for immigration voice. It is however much we all push we will all get results and benefit from it. For those it is important, will stay and do action items and contribute. Passing a law is not easy. It takes lot of effort and patience. It takes countless meetings to get the point across and win support. After a time it is no longer my green card my priority date and my visa date. It becomes all about getting the system fixed. Only those with such mindset ultimately get things done by working hard on advocacy effort.

[rdoib]

If they are 'escaping' then hr 3012 is not important to them. We are not holding anyone for them to escape. There is no gain or loss for immigration voice. It is however much we all push we will all get results and benefit from it. For those it is important, will stay and do action items and contribute. Passing a law is not easy. It takes lot of effort and patience. It takes countless meetings to get the point across and win support. After a time it is no longer my green card my priority date and my visa date. It becomes all about getting the system fixed. Only those with such mindset ultimately get things done by working hard on advocacy effort.

We need a change of mindset..don't need where everyone only cares about their own cause but try to make things right for all.

[gk_2000]

If they are 'escaping' then hr 3012 is not important to them. We are not holding anyone for them to escape. There is no gain or loss for immigration voice. It is however much we all push we will all get results and benefit from it. For those it is important, will stay and do action items and contribute. Passing a law is not easy. It takes lot of effort and patience. It takes countless meetings to get the point across and win support. After a time it is no longer my green card my priority date and my visa date. It becomes all about getting the system fixed. Only those with such mindset ultimately get things done by working hard on advocacy effort.

It occurred to me, that changing our mindsets is actually more difficult than trying to change the system...
At least there do exist a few among us who persist.. and others like me who stay because of such persons.. my thanks to everyone here. Let's keep up our spirits

[gk_2000]

I heard over the radio that some jobs bill was approved... and also seemed like the surface transportation bill progressed ... wonder if ours is any time soon?

[Hopeful1]

If they are 'escaping' then hr 3012 is not important to them. We are not holding anyone for them to escape. There is no gain or loss for immigration voice. It is however much we all push we will all get results and benefit from it. For those it is important, will stay and do action items and contribute. Passing a law is not easy. It takes lot of effort and patience. It takes countless meetings to get the point across and win support. After a time it is no longer my green card my priority date and my visa date. It becomes all about getting the system fixed. Only those with such mindset ultimately get things done by working hard on advocacy effort.

Here is another $100 contribution to support HR3012.

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 14188608AN6318206

Go IV Go!

[pappu]

Here is another $100 contribution to support HR3012.

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 14188608AN6318206

Go IV Go!

Thanks.
We urge everyone that has not yet started a monthly subscription to subscribe monthly. It helps us plan advocacy ahead of time. $25 is a small amount but goes a long way in fixing problems we all face due to backlogs.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[gcindia123]

Completed AI Today

[Saralayar]

I am not the first one who has said this. This is getting obvious around here that many of us are getting tired and defeated. I know that pappu said that lobbying efforts are ON a few days back.

This said, why would you think no one will be desperate when nothing has changed since Nov 2011?

First provide your filing details. Why you are hiding them?.

[swarnapuri]

If they are 'escaping' then hr 3012 is not important to them. We are not holding anyone for them to escape. There is no gain or loss for immigration voice. It is however much we all push we will all get results and benefit from it. For those it is important, will stay and do action items and contribute. Passing a law is not easy. It takes lot of effort and patience. It takes countless meetings to get the point across and win support. After a time it is no longer my green card my priority date and my visa date. It becomes all about getting the system fixed. Only those with such mindset ultimately get things done by working hard on advocacy effort.

Nice Post Pappu! Together we prevail!

[dts]

If they are 'escaping' then hr 3012 is not important to them. We are not holding anyone for them to escape. There is no gain or loss for immigration voice. It is however much we all push we will all get results and benefit from it. For those it is important, will stay and do action items and contribute. Passing a law is not easy. It takes lot of effort and patience. It takes countless meetings to get the point across and win support. After a time it is no longer my green card my priority date and my visa date. It becomes all about getting the system fixed. Only those with such mindset ultimately get things done by working hard on advocacy effort.

well said... Friends, let's not use hope. Keep on efforts.
H.R.3012 will become law soon.

[gchopes2012]

Frequently i visit the site , to do action items and also to check on the status of HR 3012 bill
well i do not demand or wish the updates be available , just the curiosity to check on and after reading few posts i could not resist on penning this down
I do really appreciate the effort being put by each and everyone ,but at the same time its quite human tendency to look for updates or get lil frustrated over the time coz of slow movement and i do understand process take time and do not expect to turn into law overtime
IV has been doing on immense work and also understand that in order to continue and extend to more immigration issues it is important that it needs more volunteers and contribution .
By saying that i want to iterate on the point , we need to reach out and bring awareness to more and more people and also each of the users visiting the site should have a positive vibe knowing the IV , no matter of the outcome of HR 3012 , IV is always extending the hand to help immigrants

I request each member to guide and mentor in a positive way when the junior member like me or any other members gets lil frustrated or loses hopes and puts in a negative posts ,rather than jumping at the post and bombarding with the question like did u reach to senators , what is u'r contribution and blah.........., we have been trying to get some petition signed but did not get enough signatures ............ i agree everything is true statement , but those are bygones , lets put a step forward and think , what can we do now not to fail and get enough support

what i mean to say is being in this country learned that saying NO to Girl when she asks out is kind of rude( out= indian standards ok ) , but at the same time when u r not interested and do not want to give wrong vibes , instead of saying bluntly NO, it could be nice if put as " I could love too, but you know i have some plans already made for this week ........" technically its no in both the instance , but we are just being more nice and sophisticated in 2nd one , and who knows when we turn again she may be of great help
so its kind a human tendency to get frustrated and lose hopes over the time , so please , take the opportunity to get the member to positive side rather turning the member off

[gchopes2012]

Frequently i visit the site , to do action items and also to check on the status of HR 3012 bill
well i do not demand or wish the updates be available , just the curiosity to check on and after reading few posts i could not resist on penning this down
I do really appreciate the effort being put by each and everyone ,but at the same time its quite human tendency to look for updates or get lil frustrated over the time coz of slow movement and i do understand process take time and do not expect to turn into law overtime
IV has been doing on immense work and also understand that in order to continue and extend to more immigration issues it is important that it needs more volunteers and contribution .
By saying that i want to iterate on the point , we need to reach out and bring awareness to more and more people and also each of the users visiting the site should have a positive vibe knowing the IV , no matter of the outcome of HR 3012 , IV is always extending the hand to help immigrants

I request each member to guide and mentor in a positive way when the junior member like me or any other members gets lil frustrated or loses hopes and puts in a negative posts ,rather than jumping at the post and bombarding with the question like did u reach to senators , what is u'r contribution and blah.........., we have been trying to get some petition signed but did not get enough signatures ............ i agree everything is true statement , but those are bygones , lets put a step forward and think , what can we do now not to fail and get enough support

what i mean to say is being in this country learned that saying NO to Girl when she asks out is kind of rude( out= indian standards ok ) , but at the same time when u r not interested and do not want to give wrong vibes , instead of saying bluntly NO, it could be nice if put as " I could love too, but you know i have some plans already made for this week ........" technically its no in both the instance , but we are just being more nice and sophisticated in 2nd one , and who knows when we turn again she may be of great help
so its kind a human tendency to get frustrated and lose hopes over the time , so please , take the opportunity to get the member to positive side rather turning the member off

[gchopes2012]

Frequently i visit the site , to do action items and also to check on the status of HR 3012 bill
well i do not demand or wish the updates be available , just the curiosity to check on and after reading few posts i could not resist on penning this down
I do really appreciate the effort being put by each and everyone ,but at the same time its quite human tendency to look for updates or get lil frustrated over the time coz of slow movement and i do understand process take time and do not expect to turn into law overtime
IV has been doing on immense work and also understand that in order to continue and extend to more immigration issues it is important that it needs more volunteers and contribution .
By saying that i want to iterate on the point , we need to reach out and bring awareness to more and more people and also each of the users visiting the site should have a positive vibe knowing the IV , no matter of the outcome of HR 3012 , IV is always extending the hand to help immigrants

I request each member to guide and mentor in a positive way when the junior member like me or any other members gets lil frustrated or loses hopes and puts in a negative posts ,rather than jumping at the post and bombarding with the question like did u reach to senators , what is u'r contribution and blah.........., we have been trying to get some petition signed but did not get enough signatures ............ i agree everything is true statement , but those are bygones , lets put a step forward and think , what can we do now not to fail and get enough support

what i mean to say is being in this country learned that saying NO to Girl when she asks out is kind of rude( out= indian standards ok ) , but at the same time when u r not interested and do not want to give wrong vibes , instead of saying bluntly NO, it could be nice if put as " I could love too, but you know i have some plans already made for this week ........" technically its no in both the instance , but we are just being more nice and sophisticated in 2nd one , and who knows when we turn again she may be of great help
so its kind a human tendency to get frustrated and lose hopes over the time , so please , take the opportunity to get the member to positive side rather turning the member , at this time we want more support than ever off

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[madhu345]

Frequently i visit the site , to do action items and also to check on the status of HR 3012 bill
well i do not demand or wish the updates be available , just the curiosity to check on and after reading few posts i could not resist on penning this down
I do really appreciate the effort being put by each and everyone ,but at the same time its quite human tendency to look for updates or get lil frustrated over the time coz of slow movement and i do understand process take time and do not expect to turn into law overtime
IV has been doing on immense work and also understand that in order to continue and extend to more immigration issues it is important that it needs more volunteers and contribution .
By saying that i want to iterate on the point , we need to reach out and bring awareness to more and more people and also each of the users visiting the site should have a positive vibe knowing the IV , no matter of the outcome of HR 3012 , IV is always extending the hand to help immigrants

I request each member to guide and mentor in a positive way when the junior member like me or any other members gets lil frustrated or loses hopes and puts in a negative posts ,rather than jumping at the post and bombarding with the question like did u reach to senators , what is u'r contribution and blah.........., we have been trying to get some petition signed but did not get enough signatures ............ i agree everything is true statement , but those are bygones , lets put a step forward and think , what can we do now not to fail and get enough support

what i mean to say is being in this country learned that saying NO to Girl when she asks out is kind of rude( out= indian standards ok ) , but at the same time when u r not interested and do not want to give wrong vibes , instead of saying bluntly NO, it could be nice if put as " I could love too, but you know i have some plans already made for this week ........" technically its no in both the instance , but we are just being more nice and sophisticated in 2nd one , and who knows when we turn again she may be of great help
so its kind a human tendency to get frustrated and lose hopes over the time , so please , take the opportunity to get the member to positive side rather turning the member , at this time we want more support than ever off

Appreciate your positive spirit.

[vishalgupta2]

I am not the first one who has said this. This is getting obvious around here that many of us are getting tired and defeated. I know that pappu said that lobbying efforts are ON a few days back.

This said, why would you think no one will be desperate when nothing has changed since Nov 2011?

First provide your filing details. Why you are hiding them?.

I am not hiding anything. I can't provide my filing details because I am not even in the race for GC at this point. I am still undecided if I want to ask my employer to file GC for me.

Honestly, I want to stay in the US on GC (I have spent 2 years on H1B). I am not saying that I am getting impatient for a green card, I totally understand that there are guys waiting for 10 years or even more.

I am only saying that I am in a condition where I am feeling like burdened by immigration system of USA which is no longer just paperwork, its a major stress to every immigrant employee and his employer. What's so wrong if I feel nothing is happening?

This is why I desperately wish that HR3012 gets through, I actually do all the action items and I have talked to many friends of mine and got them to also do AIs.

I understand your and IVs concern about ROW, but why do many people here tend to get aggressive against anyone who is feeling stressed and burnt out when nothing is happening visibly?

[meragreencard]

Friends,

What is FAITH: Faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen; it gives us assurance about things we cannot see.

Following is the conversation between Drona and Arjuna emphasizing on how focussed Arjuna was:

Drona: “What do you see?”
Arjuna: “I see the eye of the bird”
Drona: “Do you see the tree?”
Arjuna: “No”
Drona: “Do you see the branch?”
Arjuna: “No”
Drona: “Do you see the bird?”
Arjuna: “No”
Drona: “Then what else do you see, Arjuna?”
Arjuna: “Nothing. I see only the round black eye of the bird”

As Arjuna released the string, the arrow shot forward with a swoosh. It pierced the center of the eye of the wooden bird. Do you have arjuna-eyed focus?

Please do not look around, do not listen to the people with negative attitude towards HR3012. Stay in Faith, Believe in IV, Stay Positive and Focus on Action Items. We Shall Overcome…

Now it is your decision to remain a Victim or emerge as Victor in this process.

[amulchandra]

I usually don't trust the OH law firm website. But today they posted that Harry Reid is not going to pickup any piecemeal bills for immigration reform. Hope that he is not talking about HR 3012

[coopheal]

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[sriramkalyan]

All this time we being self fish . We are fight for our selves. Our career and jobs. Collectively we got into this mess because our narrow goals. I personally feel I am abused in US due to immigration laws. So why not fight for abused kids of IOWA.

I recommend we raise funds for IOWA abused children - here are some organizationswhich works for Iowa abused kids.

Prevent Child Abuse Iowa (http://www.pcaiowa.org/) - Prevent Child Abuse IOWA
Iowa Chapter of Children's Advocacy Centers (http://www.iowacacs.org/about.html) - Iowa Chapter of Children's Advocacy Centers
Drugs Hurt Kids (http://www.iowadec.net/Drugs_Hurt_Kids.html) - Iowa Alliance for Drug Endangered Children

We need to give back to society before we see any Light in our lives.

[Gravitation]

I usually don't trust the OH law firm website. But today they posted that Harry Reid is not going to pickup any piecemeal bills for immigration reform. Hope that he is not talking about HR 3012

Dream is big for Reid (a lot of hispanic voters in his state)... in the same way as anti-immigration stand is big for Grassley. Here's a quote from a recent news article:

"Reid says he has no plans to consider any potential part of a broader immigration package on its own except the Dream Act -- unless making a deal helps him push the Dream Act forward."

Reid hoping renewed interest in Dream Act will give party a boost - Sunday, March 11, 2012 | 2:56 p.m. - Las Vegas Sun (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/mar/11/reid-hoping-renewed-interest-dream-act-will-give-p/)

[MM_67]

I usually don't trust the OH law firm website. But today they posted that Harry Reid is not going to pickup any piecemeal bills for immigration reform. Hope that he is not talking about HR 3012

Today, Irish media reports that all attemps to negotiate and pursuade Sen. Grassley have failed and they are losing their hope for these bills in the Senate. It indeed is a grim news.

As the H.R. 3012 prospect was slowly slipping away, the Indian and Chinese communities have been hangging on with the prospects for removal of per country limitation to EB visas as inspired by the White House report that the President supported so-called STARTUP programs including removal of per country limit for Employment-Based immigration. For the reasons, people have been closely watching the movement in the House on the JOBS bill which people hoped to pick-up and include the H.R. 3012 type of per country limit removal proposal, but as it has turned, the JOBS bill which the House passed last week failed to include per country limit proposal to a great disappointment to the Indian and Chinese communities. Worse yet, during the weekend, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid disclosed his position on immigration reform in connection with the sad story which media reported headlined on a Mexican girl child who had been brought to the U.S. illegally by the parents when she was four years old and excelled at the high school as a Valedictorian but was now facing deportation by ICE that Sen. Harry would not accept any piece-meal immigration reform legislative proporals unless they included DREAM bill. During the same period, there was another report on a Mexican student who graduated from the New York University Law School after he had been brought to the U.S. when he was five years old and facing no future for his dream of becoming a lawyer as he would not be able to obtain a lawyer licence. These two DREAMer stories tore apart and broke the hearts of the public last week.

[dts]

Please post whatever update or atleast bump.

[DallasBlue]

Part of 'Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth' , the gentlemen from Iowa should remove the hold , because ,


HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors and programmers to get job mobility and go on to research new products and services

will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the economy

will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve economy, (will also bloster the housing loans market )

will help them spend more with the greater sense of security than they will have now

will make the best and brightest to be remain here and rather than compete or start companies elsewhere

will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally




cant think more at this time,some of the above points may be bad , can you all guys add or improve upon these points


will create more jobs when folks buy homes

[go_guy123]

I'm looking for action item link and it's difficult to find, and certainly it will be difficult for a new visitor to find the link. I know it involves some work, however Is it possible for IV guys to have a link on top of the page all the time for Action Items which would say Actions Items for today or whatever they think is meaningful rather than a thread?

It is difficult to get any SKIL bill/HR 3012 equivalent passed so long the democratic party is in power in senate and congress.

[go_guy123]

Today, Irish media reports that all attemps to negotiate and pursuade Sen. Grassley have failed and they are losing their hope for these bills in the Senate. It indeed is a grim news.

As the H.R. 3012 prospect was slowly slipping away, the Indian and Chinese communities have been hangging on with the prospects for removal of per country limitation to EB visas as inspired by the White House report that the President supported so-called STARTUP programs including removal of per country limit for Employment-Based immigration. For the reasons, people have been closely watching the movement in the House on the JOBS bill which people hoped to pick-up and include the H.R. 3012 type of per country limit removal proposal, but as it has turned, the JOBS bill which the House passed last week failed to include per country limit proposal to a great disappointment to the Indian and Chinese communities. Worse yet, during the weekend, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid disclosed his position on immigration reform in connection with the sad story which media reported headlined on a Mexican girl child who had been brought to the U.S. illegally by the parents when she was four years old and excelled at the high school as a Valedictorian but was now facing deportation by ICE that Sen. Harry would not accept any piece-meal immigration reform legislative proporals unless they included DREAM bill. During the same period, there was another report on a Mexican student who graduated from the New York University Law School after he had been brought to the U.S. when he was five years old and facing no future for his dream of becoming a lawyer as he would not be able to obtain a lawyer licence. These two DREAMer stories tore apart and broke the hearts of the public last week.

Just what I always suspected, Democratic is only interested in Amnesty

[jnagendra]

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[dts]

Thank You and hope it inspires others
Together IV (I+We) All Will Succeed
VOTE YES HR3012 (@USAbravo) on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/USAbravo)

I mean 'update' means about HR3012 and if IV is planning any new AI for everyone to take out H.R.3012 from coma.

No harm if IV starts now flower compaign also. Should try final efforts and hope for any miracle.

[GC_wait_weary]

IV is only hope to bring some changes to obviously flawed policy.

Go IV.

[aj2000]

Done AI today.

Is there still hope for me to get GC?:confused:

Just what I always suspected, Democratic is only interested in Amnesty

[spven]

This is from anti-immigrant group FAIR. Doesnt talk about 3012 but about E3 to Irish.
FAIR: FAIR Legislative Update March 12, 2012 (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/690812282?page=NewsArticle&id=24909&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1012)

[lost_in_migration]

Thanks for the link. This and IrishCentral.com article are exactly opposite of each other!
Is Irish media or their Lobbying group trying to keep a low profile and get S.2005 or S.1983 passed in the Senate? FAIR obviously won't have any such intentions and would like to make this as public as possible.

This is from anti-immigrant group FAIR. Doesnt talk about 3012 but about E3 to Irish.
FAIR: FAIR Legislative Update March 12, 2012 (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/690812282?page=NewsArticle&id=24909&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1012)

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[gcindia123]

I completed action items. I got reply from Senator(republican) 2 weeks back saying she will look into this bill once it comes to floor.

I replied 1 week back to her asking her stand on this bill, if she is going to support it or not. But till now I haven't got any reply from her.

I guess republicans are not concerned about this bill. :(

I hope IV are working very hard to convince Dem & Rep senators.

Hope for the best & looking forward for good news soon.

[go_guy123]

Done AI today.

Is there still hope for me to get GC?:confused:

EB3 India is a long long wait...For India EB2 is only viable/practically feasible. EB3 India is a theoretical possibility....but max waiting can be around 21-22 years as your US born children can always sponsor you.

[dts]

People have complete faith on IV. People are doing their part according to IV instructions.
However at this point I think it is time to hear something from IV about status.
We understand everything can not be disclosed or there can not be daily update.
But atleast if 3012 is still alive or dead or efforts are still going on... something...
I don't think this is unreasonable expectaions.

We all are ready to follow next instructions.

[praskar]

I've always believed that the AI are the way IV lets us know what's going on. I have faith in the work they're doing and continuing on in the action items.

[meragreencard]

I agree with you but if IV says that HR3012 is going to pass next week, then it would be a rocket fuel for the opponents. If IV says maybe, then we loose the steam. So, for me “No news is good news”. We all have to Pray & Keep our Faith strong in the middle of the storm. We may be closer than we may think…

People have complete faith on IV. People are doing their part according to IV instructions.
However at this point I think it is time to hear something from IV about status.
We understand everything can not be disclosed or there can not be daily update.
But atleast if 3012 is still alive or dead or efforts are still going on... something...
I don't think this is unreasonable expectaions.

We all are ready to follow next instructions.

[gvenkat]

Because NOTHING is going on so NO updates for us. That is Elementary my dear Watson. They are just waiting for a magical thing to happen and keeping us guessing and keeping our hopes high that's all they can do. BILL is dead and gone. End of story. Do not waste time and energy asking. :-(. MOVE on.

While I hate to agree with you, That seems to be the reality. No point in just chest thumping by doing AI. I guess it's time to Move on and stop pinning the hopes on this legislation. The way it appears Grassley by hook or crook will stop anything legal immigration. As sad it maybe that a bill that was passed overwhelmingly in the house has to meet this fate. Sad

[Gravitation]

We gave our best shot and missed. Someday... it'll be our day. Till then... chin up and get back to work :)

[gk_2000]

Hey guys, can you cut out the foolish ranting?

[ronhira]

Hey guys, can you cut out the foolish ranting?

pls. don't stop these guys...... let them go on, i'm enjoying it :p

[nshalady]

May be we should start a flower campaign to congratulate Mr Grassley for this achievement. Hope, that would force him to introspect and see what damage he has caused.

[srij]

pls. don't stop these guys...... let them go on, i'm enjoying it :p

Ronhira! I agree with you, just like I do with a lot of your posts. You are right, as you were with the "therapy suggestion" to some one who wanted to feel better by getting updates. :D

[unluckydude]

pls. don't stop these guys...... let them go on, i'm enjoying it :p


Most of you think IV is the only organization involved in advocacy towards 3012 and if you think the money paid by us is the only one involved in advocacy efforts.

This bill is lobbied by big corporate companies also and IV on its part is supporting on behalf of grassroots level – i.e, us.

In my opinion, the bill is in Coma stage. It can wake up, get well and every one will be happy or something can happen otherwise.

So, forget 3012, look for other avenues.
- Port if you can, if not do the below

- Do not invest in this country
- Move your money to your home country
- Start a business in your home country and compete with this country
- Hurt them economically. ( Learn from the Chinese )


Don’t think about 3012, be healthy, happy and live longer.

Peace :)

[bpratap]

Guys,

How many of have worked with Govt ? or Legislative process ? (even I havent). Most of us are working in Fast paced technology sector. In Private sector Things would happen in no time>

Govt. process haven't changed much with the changing technology or Business logic.

I myself know many of my friends and people in this forum doesn't want this bill to be passed. because they or their people of interest are in the sweet spot with the current unfair system.

Like most of us here, I do share the frustration of not getting any updates on the bill. But, I believe and understand, HR 3012 is very much alive but the details of what and where is not published in the greater interest of getting the bill passed. we should realize , what we are trying to achieve is to amend a 50 yr old legislation in US Government. it may not come as fast as we may think.

Please be patient and do our part of actions to get the bill Passed. Persistence pays off !





Most of you think IV is the only organization involved in advocacy towards 3012 and if you think the money paid by us is the only one involved in advocacy efforts.

This bill is lobbied by big corporate companies also and IV on its part is supporting on behalf of grassroots level – i.e, us.

In my opinion, the bill is in Coma stage. It can wake up, get well and every one will be happy or something can happen otherwise.

So, forget 3012, look for other avenues.
- Port if you can, if not do the below

- Do not invest in this country
- Move your money to your home country
- Start a business in your home country and compete with this country
- Hurt them economically. ( Learn from the Chinese )


Don’t think about 3012, be healthy, happy and live longer.

Peace :)

[rajeev_74]

These negative remarks are nothing but a way to stir up the pot hoping for the IV leadership to respond with some update...It is funny though :) and reminds me of my 5 year old!

[meragreencard]

Just donated $100

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 62J4973898464103E.

Thanks...

[bpratap]

These negative remarks are nothing but a way to stir up the pot hoping for the IV leadership to respond with some update...It is funny though :) and reminds me of my 5 year old!

Juz think twice before provoking, we may be feeding info to people who may use the info to work against our GOAL. Already we are seeing many ......

[dts]

Thank You Pappu and Everyone working hard and standing for The Cause

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/2586064-action-item-hr-3012-march-2012-a.html
Together IV (I+We) All Will Succeed
VOTE YES HR3012 (@USAbravo) on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/USAbravo)

It does not make sense that if IV gives update , opponents will get insider info and will work against 3012.
What harm it can cause if IV updates something " Efforts are on.. Lobbying is on..", " We are lucky so far about bill.." ...something they were doing in past.
( In fact, we have nothing to loose at this point.. )
No need to become unnecessarily self deluding .
People are following direction from IV by keeping tremendous faith and still they have ..
Is it something wrong to ask at least non harming status?

[gk_2000]

It does not make sense that if IV gives update , opponents will get insider info and will work against 3012.
What harm it can cause if IV updates something " Efforts are on.. Lobbying is on..", " We are lucky so far about bill.." ...something they were doing in past.
( In fact, we have nothing to loose at this point.. )
No need to become unnecessarily self deluding .
People are following direction from IV by keeping tremendous faith and still they have ..
Is it something wrong to ask at least non harming status?

Think of it like a plant. Do you check on your plant everyday? Even if you do so, the significant changes will be there only over a period of time, during which you don't stop watering it

[unluckydude]

If the plant is dead do you still water it ??????? Think of other way and be creative. Do NOT waste time and effort by watering the plant.

Exactly, good point.

Don't we have the right to know if the plant is alive or dead so we can decide on watering more, getting a new plant or never grow a plant at all ?

[praskar]

It seems that I'm in the minority here but I have complete faith in IV and what they are doing/have done for us.

[gk_2000]

If the plant is dead do you still water it ??????? Think of other way and be creative. Do NOT waste time and effort by watering the plant.

If a plant doesn't grow per your expectations do you conclude that it is dead? I think in that case you shouldn't be in the business of growing plants :)

[bpratap]

I trust IV and its efforts of getting this Bill (HR 3012) Passed

I generally don't make a public posting whenever I make donation to IV (Just my personal View, No offense to anyone). this time to show all the NAY Sayers, I have faith and trust in IV, I made a donation to IV now.

You just made a payment of
$100.00 USD
Paid to
Immigration Voice
850-391-4966


Your transaction ID for this payment is: 3Y372372EY6890035.

Guys, Please lets do our part by donating, doing action Items to reach our GOAL.

[GC_wait_weary]

It seems that I'm in the minority here but I have complete faith in IV and what they are doing/have done for us.

No you are not in the minority.:)

[psychedelicNerd]

If IV feels the need to give us an update, we will get an update. Whats the point of unreasonable arguments? Can we just be patient and wait for IV's status update whenever they have one as opposed to assuming dooms day? I believe hope is better than being disheartened any day.

[rajeev_74]

people who think the plant is dead should plant another one :) we all know the earth needs a lot more..watch Lorax he he he :) jokes aside...we should keep at this even if there is little or no hope...the issues regarding legal immigration will remain fresh in the minds of the law makers!!!

[bpratap]

Guys,

If we the ones who are affected by this 50 yrs OLD legislation are not ready to Speak up and work for the hurdles to be removed, who else will work for us ?

Having said that, I am not telling everybody start doing something on their own. Digging 100 / 10000 holes doesn't get us water, rather a single hole deep enuf would get us water. IV is already working for us as a community who are affected by this unfair law.

Lets do it together, and reach the GOAL soon. Lets not waste time in arguing.

I urge, all the members to do the action Items daily or more if possible

[GC_wait_weary]

Guys,

The letter/email to senator starts with
"I am writing as one of the 500,000 legal, tax-paying, law-abiding skilled immigrants stuck..."

However I were citizen and want to support HR3012 then I would want to sent a letter that indicates I am citizen and support HR3012.

Is there such a format available for citizens to use.


I would want ask some of citizen friends to support HR3012. Also letter from citizen... senator would want to pay little more attention than immigrant who can vote.

[Greentown]

Thats Right. There are lot more people that has faith and trust in IV. They just try to ignore these emotional swings. We all know that nothing has changed much in the past month in regards to the bill (other than oh law posts ;-) ) Every one knows Grassley is against these kind of bills. That is not a new thing. Every one know Ried stand on the Dream bill. Everything else is a speculation based on web reporter. Better avoid this chatter and do what we can for the bill and wait for the result. 2 or 3 months is not a long period for this bill as it is not a mainstream bill that will effect like surface transportation bill etc...ours is a minor bill that attracts little public interest other than indians/chinese visa holders. So we can not expect everybody's attention to this bill. To me , nothing has changed for this bill. If the bill is alive a month before it is still alive.
No you are not in the minority.:)

[bpratap]

Guys,

The letter/email to senator starts with
"I am writing as one of the 500,000 legal, tax-paying, law-abiding skilled immigrants stuck..."

However I were citizen and want to support HR3012 then I would want to sent a letter that indicates I am citizen and support HR3012.

Is there such a format available for citizens to use.


I would want ask some of citizen friends to support HR3012. Also letter from citizen... senator would want to pay little more attention than immigrant who can vote.

This is one thing I learnt after meeting Amman Kapoor other day. We don't need to be a Citizen (a person who is eligible to vote) to raise concerns to our Congress person or senator. In this country which is built up of immigrants, today's Non immigrant is tomorrows Citizen, its in a way same as a Citizen kid, who is not eligible to vote until he/she is 18. that doesn't mean his/her voices aren't heard or ignored.

We are fellow constituents of the Senator / Congress person. so they do listen to our concerns. they know we would be voting some time in the future.

[happyfeet]

I appreciate the effort from Team IV. I wish the team should continue on this effort.
Many of us and our kids are facing more difficulties with out GC.

I feel we should see other alternate action to get EB3 processed in faster way.Is there any way to get the excess visa shared between EB2 and EB3.

Also I think Immigartion voice should organize a rally and all EB3 should attend.

[GC_wait_weary]

This is one thing I learnt after meeting Amman Kapoor other day. We don't need to be a Citizen (a person who is eligible to vote) to raise concerns to our Congress person or senator. In this country which is built up of immigrants, today's Non immigrant is tomorrows Citizen, its in a way same as a Citizen kid, who is not eligible to vote until he/she is 18. that doesn't mean his/her voices aren't heard or ignored.

We are fellow constituents of the Senator / Congress person. so they do listen to our concerns. they know we would be voting some time in the future.

That may be true; however it would be inaccurate for a citizen to claim as one of legal immigrant(that's exactly what current letter says); not to mention citizen would be reluctant to send such letter.

[gcindia123]

Hello Devdk,

I guess you can do it.

Here in USA, senators and congressman does't work under their leaders. They completely take own decision on each bill. They analyse a bill to support it or not depending upon there constituent demand.

For example Scott Brown of MA, is trying to retain his senator seat for the coming election(2012), so he wants to take advantage of Irish people from MA by supporting his Irish bill and also H.R.3012. Where as Senator Grassley from same party is opposing both the bills.

So Senators from Republicans party purely support the bill depending on their constituent interest.

I wish everyone can do action items from IV and also other alternatives to gain support from the local republican senators. Its no harm to do all the possibilities to gain the support.

Thanks,

Guys,

The letter/email to senator starts with
"I am writing as one of the 500,000 legal, tax-paying, law-abiding skilled immigrants stuck..."

However I were citizen and want to support HR3012 then I would want to sent a letter that indicates I am citizen and support HR3012.

Is there such a format available for citizens to use.


I would want ask some of citizen friends to support HR3012. Also letter from citizen... senator would want to pay little more attention than immigrant who can vote.

[dts]

Thats Right. There are lot more people that has faith and trust in IV. They just try to ignore these emotional swings. We all know that nothing has changed much in the past month in regards to the bill (other than oh law posts ;-) ) Every one knows Grassley is against these kind of bills. That is not a new thing. Every one know Ried stand on the Dream bill. Everything else is a speculation based on web reporter. Better avoid this chatter and do what we can for the bill and wait for the result. 2 or 3 months is not a long period for this bill as it is not a mainstream bill that will effect like surface transportation bill etc...ours is a minor bill that attracts little public interest other than indians/chinese visa holders. So we can not expect everybody's attention to this bill. To me , nothing has changed for this bill. If the bill is alive a month before it is still alive.

1)
Herry Reid is concerned about illegal immigrant kids. We all agree with that concern.
If H.R.3012 is not passed , kids of legal high skilled workers face similar fate and deportaion when they reach 18 years. Their H4 dependent visa will be denied. There was already one case surfaced recently. (Unfortunately I do not have link for that. but if someone can find, that would be strong enough to convince Reid)
H.R.3012 is in line of his sentiment of kids facing deportaion.

2) Reid himself appealed Congress to get rid of NONE OR ALL approach and instead asked to agree on common grounds and move ahead.
Isn't his recent remark for not considering immigration legislation without DREAM provision contradict of his own appeal?

Can someone prepare tweets for above two points and we all can start tweeting him?

[WA8ING4GC]

Senate has been stuck with the Surface Transportation bill for a number of days, which they want to wrap it up. They then want to take care of a number of pending motions to clotures, mostly focusing on nominations that have been stalled because of the Republican's oppositions to the Executive and Judicial appointments. We will watch what other bills will come up on the floor today.

[chandubaba]

The Ones They Leave Behind: Deportation of Lawful Permanent Residents Harm U.S. Citizen Children | Immigration Policy Center (http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/ones-they-leave-behind-deportation-lawful-permanent-residents-harm-us-citizen-children)

Here's the link.

[bpratap]

Guys,

Please ignore the news coming up on OH Law firm's website. He is juz trying to generate some traffic to his website. a marketing gimmick to gain more customers. They are juz posting information which are available on the Internet with some added excitement.

Also OH Law firm seems to be more excited on publishing "Hope for Irish E-3 Visa & H.R. 3012 Reportedly Faded Away" These lawyers seems to have special interest in not resolving the immigration issues. so don't get frustrated by the news coming on the lawyers website.

Please realizse, IV was the one and only organization who have stood up to make the Legislators understand what is the actual issue faced by Skilled Immigrants. None of the Lawyers or Companies have looked into the actual issues faced by Skilled Immigrants, due to this Un Fair Rules.

Lets all work together to get the obstacles removed for High Skilled Immigrants.

[meragreencard]

Thanks BPratap...

Friends...

You must have remembered the story from your childhood, where an old man was worried about his sons who were always quarreling among themselves. In order to teach them a lesson he ask them to break a bundle of sticks tied together. Obviously none of them could. And when the bundle was untied they were able to break each stick easily enough.

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Guys,

Please ignore the news coming up on OH Law firm's website. He is juz trying to generate some traffic to his website. a marketing gimmick to gain more customers. They are juz posting information which are available on the Internet with some added excitement.

Also OH Law firm seems to be more excited on publishing "Hope for Irish E-3 Visa & H.R. 3012 Reportedly Faded Away" These lawyers seems to have special interest in not resolving the immigration issues. so don't get frustrated by the news coming on the lawyers website.

Please realizse, IV was the one and only organization who have stood up to make the Legislators understand what is the actual issue faced by Skilled Immigrants. None of the Lawyers or Companies have looked into the actual issues faced by Skilled Immigrants, due to this Un Fair Rules.

Lets all work together to get the obstacles removed for High Skilled Immigrants.

[spven]

Finally transportation bill is out. Next comes jobs bill that passed the house last week. We may have a small window in the next few days as leaders have agreed on judges( with out agreement it would have tied the senate for weeks). I still think we swim or sink with the Irish in the senate. Who knows with st.patricks day around....

[neel_gump]

Finally transportation bill is out. Next comes jobs bill that passed the house last week. We may have a small window in the next few days as leaders have agreed on judges( with out agreement it would have tied the senate for weeks). I still think we swim or sink with the Irish in the senate. Who knows with st.patricks day around....

Did you realize that Indian and Irish flags have same colors :D (albeit they are in different directions)

[gcindia123]

I am following the senator floor updates from last 3months. I never saw Senator Schumer to raise any good bill/issue/concerns. He just praises everyone after the bill passes / fails when he gets his 10mins time on the floor. where as all the other senators raises their voices against the issues or bills etc.

:(

[lost_in_migration]

Ref: E3 in need of a St. Patrick miracle (http://irishecho.com/?p=70330)

E3 in need of a St. Patrick miracle
-BY RAY O'HANLON | MARCH 14TH, 2012

The Irish E3 Visa campaign could do with a little bit of Irish luck in the countdown to St. Patrick’s Day.
Passage of a bill, reflecting virtually identical measures in the U.S. Senate drawn up by Republican Scott Brown and Democrat Charles Schumer, were still lingering in legislative limbo at presstime Tuesday, this in large part due to a “hold” being placed on the E3 plan by Republican Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa.
While Schumer has lined up support from all 53 Democrats in the Senate, 60 votes are needed for passage and Brown has yet to either persuade Grassley to lift his hold, or gather the minimum of seven GOP senators to his standard.
“It’s all about Brown getting his conference organized,” said one source familiar with the present situation.
Dan Dennehy, national immigration chairman of the Ancient Order of Hibernians, reflected this sentiment in a statement released Tuesday.
“We are asking Senator Brown to convince his colleagues to accept Irish E3 Visas and stop blocking progress. We ask the Irish American community in those hold out U.S. Senators’ states to help us remind Senator Brown, and his colleagues, that it’s time to check the Irish American voter almanac. It could be a very cold St. Patrick’s Day without hard work on the part of Brown and his GOP Senate colleagues on the Irish E3s,” Dennehy said.
Meanwhile, Taoseach Enda Kenny is expected to raise the E3 issue during his visit to the U.S. next week. Kenny is expected to meet with E3 backers, including the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform and AOH, as well as Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill involved in the E3 debate.
An E3 bill, as envisaged by supporters, would offer Irish applicants 10,500 two-year renewable work visas on an annual basis.

[trap]

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

[senram]

OH Law firm;s website gives lots of information like processing time,CIS news etc apart from bills information. They are consolidating the news about immigration bills and some times writing analysis. The analysis could be wrong some times but many times it was correct. Also they correct themselves when they got update which was different from previous one. When there is no update from any place including IV OH law firm update may be better. it could be wrong. yes no one can predict the future accurately but anybody can guess it based on some news or facts or speculations.


Guys,

Please ignore the news coming up on OH Law firm's website. He is juz trying to generate some traffic to his website. a marketing gimmick to gain more customers. They are juz posting information which are available on the Internet with some added excitement.

Also OH Law firm seems to be more excited on publishing "Hope for Irish E-3 Visa & H.R. 3012 Reportedly Faded Away" These lawyers seems to have special interest in not resolving the immigration issues. so don't get frustrated by the news coming on the lawyers website.

Please realizse, IV was the one and only organization who have stood up to make the Legislators understand what is the actual issue faced by Skilled Immigrants. None of the Lawyers or Companies have looked into the actual issues faced by Skilled Immigrants, due to this Un Fair Rules.

Lets all work together to get the obstacles removed for High Skilled Immigrants.

[psychedelicNerd]

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

This is the most insight I've had on whats happening behind the scenes for H.R. 3012 since the bill passed the House. Thanks for sharing the article. There does seem to be a lot going on in the background. I hope the tech gurus are able to persuade Grassley to remove his hold and Schumer and Brown to remove the Irish Provisions from the bill.

Hope good will and good luck to all of us waiting for 3012 to progress.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[smuggymba]

From the article:

• Grassley says he is willing to lift his hold on H.R. 3012 if Schumer backs off his Irish-visa proposal.

So, the problem is Schumer and not Grassley?:eek:

[Suva]

I think this is one of the best articles on current crisis of HR3012. Thanks for sharing this.

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

[dpuranik]

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

To sum up HR3012:

• Grassley says he is willing to lift his hold on H.R. 3012 if Schumer backs off his Irish-visa proposal.

• Schumer says that Democrats aren’t the holdup; it’s actually a Republican, Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, who shot his mouth off to a bunch of Irish constituents back home, saying that the Irish-visa bill was “about to pop.” Massachusetts—where Brown expects a tough reelection fight—is the hub of the Ireland lobby.

• Brown says he has not placed a hold on the Chaffetz proposal and supports it in principle. But he also wants the Irish-visa bill to pass, and he won’t say whether he would block the Chaffetz bill if the Irish measure doesn’t move with it.

• Grassley, meanwhile, has offered Schumer a chance for an up-or-down vote on the Irish-visa bill, provided the required skill levels get tweaked and the special-visa program has an end date. There’s no word yet on whether Schumer will accept the offer.

And so, H.R. 3012 sits.

“It’s the only immigration bill that’s probably going to be around for two years,” Grassley said, “so if you want to get some reforms, you take every opportunity you can to take an immigration bill and [fix] other things that are wrong with immigration.”

Grassley’s tactic is exactly what makes passing small, targeted legislation so tough. Pretty soon, a simple, six-page bill is loaded down with pet projects that make it impossible to pass muster. “I’m only adding one thing,” he said. “Anybody trying to add anything to any other bill, you know what you call them? U.S. senator—because that’s what the Senate’s all about. No limit on debate. It’s the deliberating body. Anybody can bring up anything.”

[immigrant2007]

I think this is one of the best articles on current crisis of HR3012. Thanks for sharing this.

Though both HR 3012 and Irish bills are still not fair as HR 3012 keeps on favoring the country with highest numbrs (mojority rules , it should have been first come first service basis for 75% numbers and rest 25% divided equally, same for spillover) and IRSIH is totally biased. But out of two IRISH one is more partial and completely biased bill (like the reservation promise in Indian elections).

[dts]

From the article:

• Grassley says he is willing to lift his hold on H.R. 3012 if Schumer backs off his Irish-visa proposal.

So, the problem is Schumer and not Grassley?:eek:

Yes. Seems problem is Schummer and Scott Brown. Grassley is also but not as he is portrayed.
Should we ( IV) start sending messages on Twitter to Schummer and Scott Brown to pressurize them?

[gcindia123]

As per the articles published today, we can understand what is going behind the screens.

Time for IV to pressure on Senator Schumer to work separately on H.R.3012 bill and Irish bill and make the H.R3012 pass in the senate.

Hope everyone can understand now, how IV and rest of the groups supporting and working behind the scene for us.
GO IV GO.......
Hope March 2012 brings good news for us.
Best of luck to everyone.

[gcindia123]

I guess IV and everyone needs to send messages on Twitter to Schummer and Scott Brown requesting them not to attach Irish bill to 3012.

Yes. Seems problem is Schummer and Scott Brown. Grassley is also but not as he is portrayed.
Should we ( IV) start sending messages on Twitter to Schummer and Scott Brown to pressurize them?

[Hibernate]

Remember they are not only senators but "politicians". Don't simply trust what they say ... To me, this simply means....this is what the senator wants to say to the reporter/public at this point. Who put the hold first? Grassley !! It was only then he came up with VISA program changes , when E3 was attached.... and now they want to play blame game on each other? ... Clearly, noone has a clean interest in HR3012 itself.... :(

I still have hope but looks like I will have to wait for a long time.... and may be my GC will come before this wait :)

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

To sum up HR3012:

• Grassley says he is willing to lift his hold on H.R. 3012 if Schumer backs off his Irish-visa proposal.

• Schumer says that Democrats aren’t the holdup; it’s actually a Republican, Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, who shot his mouth off to a bunch of Irish constituents back home, saying that the Irish-visa bill was “about to pop.” Massachusetts—where Brown expects a tough reelection fight—is the hub of the Ireland lobby.

• Brown says he has not placed a hold on the Chaffetz proposal and supports it in principle. But he also wants the Irish-visa bill to pass, and he won’t say whether he would block the Chaffetz bill if the Irish measure doesn’t move with it.

• Grassley, meanwhile, has offered Schumer a chance for an up-or-down vote on the Irish-visa bill, provided the required skill levels get tweaked and the special-visa program has an end date. There’s no word yet on whether Schumer will accept the offer.

And so, H.R. 3012 sits.

“It’s the only immigration bill that’s probably going to be around for two years,” Grassley said, “so if you want to get some reforms, you take every opportunity you can to take an immigration bill and [fix] other things that are wrong with immigration.”

Grassley’s tactic is exactly what makes passing small, targeted legislation so tough. Pretty soon, a simple, six-page bill is loaded down with pet projects that make it impossible to pass muster. “I’m only adding one thing,” he said. “Anybody trying to add anything to any other bill, you know what you call them? U.S. senator—because that’s what the Senate’s all about. No limit on debate. It’s the deliberating body. Anybody can bring up anything.”

[dts]

The best part of entire artcle is :
The Iowan doesn’t object in principle to removing per-country green-card quotas
This gives some hopes.
Seems like Schummer and Scott Brown are bigger hurdles.

[lost_in_migration]

Guys, Please post your comments on the article. Please take it as an additional Action Item for next few days. Lot of comments have already been posted by opposition

http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314

Following is my comment=>
This article is awesome. Most of the people thought HR 3012 was dead and nobody cared about it. We were not aware that so many things were going on, in the background.

HR 3012 has become a litmus test for all the other immigration bills. Even anti-immigrant organisations like NumbersUSA and FAIR have taken a neutral stand on this bill, as it does not add a single new Green Card to the system. The current system unfairly & unintentionally favors low-populated countries to highly populated ones. It changes the current system to FIFO. If a non-controversial bill like HR 3012 can't pass nothing else can pass.

Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates, I would like to take this opportunity to thank you all for writing the most insightful article ever on HR 3012.

[Hibernate]

The best part of entire artcle is :
The Iowan doesn’t object in principle to removing per-country green-card quotas
This gives some hopes.
Seems like Schummer and Scott Brown are bigger hurdles.

You'd think this was true !

[ronhira]

You'd think this was true !

if this is not true.... then apparently u seem to know the truth.... how else can u say that this is not true...... if u know what's the truth then y don't u share it with everyone rather than just saying and leaving it there by saying that this is not true?

[Hibernate]

if this is not true.... then apparently u seem to know the truth.... how else can u say that this is not true...... if u know what's the truth then y don't u share it with everyone rather than just saying and leaving it there by saying that this is not true?

I think you missed my my previous post. I did mention the reason for what I said.... Here it is one more time for you...

Why Grassley put a hold in first place?? and than introduce VISA program changes when E3 gets introduced ...and later play blame game?? Clearly, he doesn't have any interest in HR 3012 itself ....

[gujju]

Everyone , please take this seriously and post your comments on http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314.It is very important.
As of now there are 80% negative comments.Common Guys united we can do it.
We need to make this happen.

Rock On Chak De IV.

[gcindia123]

Yes that's true. We need to post as many as asap. World is watching on it. We need to show our concerns and support for this bill.

I wrote my comments 1hr back today.

Lets do it....
Go guys Go.

Everyone , please take this seriously and post your comments on http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314.It is very important.
As of now there are 80% negative comments.Common Guys united we can do it.
We need to make this happen.

Rock On Chak De IV.

[ronhira]

I think you missed my my previous post. I did mention the reason for what I said.... Here it is one more time for you...

Why Grassley put a hold in first place?? and than introduce VISA program changes when E3 gets introduced ...and later play blame game?? Clearly, he doesn't have any interest in HR 3012 itself ....

so u don't have any information to support u'r statement that this article is not true..... u'r just saying it becoz of u'r weird logic.... which is not at all clear.....

[lost_in_migration]

I agree with you. Grassley put the Hold before Schumer go S.1983. If Grassley is serious about what he says then he will remove hold from S.1857 and keep the hold on S.1983/S.2005.

Following 2 quotes from him in the same article contradict each other. Either one of these is possible but not both..and on any given day Grassley will pick the 1st one w/o any hesitation.

“It’s the only immigration bill that’s going to be around for two years. So if you want to get some reforms, you take every opportunity you can to take an immigration bill and [fix] other things wrong with immigration.” —Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, on the Chaffetz bill

Grassley says he is willing to lift his hold on H.R. 3012 if Schumer backs off his Irish-visa proposal

I think you missed my my previous post. I did mention the reason for what I said.... Here it is one more time for you...

Why Grassley put a hold in first place?? and than introduce VISA program changes when E3 gets introduced ...and later play blame game?? Clearly, he doesn't have any interest in HR 3012 itself ....

[gcindia123]

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

[dts]

Everyone , please take this seriously and post your comments on http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314.It is very important.
As of now there are 80% negative comments.Common Guys united we can do it.
We need to make this happen.

Rock On Chak De IV.

Friends,
Post comments on nationaljournal.com
Consider this as AI. Seems like lots of going in background.
Who got disappointed for no update , here are updates.
Hope now everyone will act.

[vsrinir]

People in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bangladesh, Haithi (countries having with extreme hardship living conditions) are getting green cards easily. But people who are paying taxes, working hard, contributing to the economy have to wait several years with out getting green card in unfair system. One of the America fundamental basic thing is " First Come First Serve". Unfortunately It is not practicing in US immigration system.It is very very "SAD".







Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

To sum up HR3012:

• Grassley says he is willing to lift his hold on H.R. 3012 if Schumer backs off his Irish-visa proposal.

• Schumer says that Democrats aren’t the holdup; it’s actually a Republican, Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, who shot his mouth off to a bunch of Irish constituents back home, saying that the Irish-visa bill was “about to pop.” Massachusetts—where Brown expects a tough reelection fight—is the hub of the Ireland lobby.

• Brown says he has not placed a hold on the Chaffetz proposal and supports it in principle. But he also wants the Irish-visa bill to pass, and he won’t say whether he would block the Chaffetz bill if the Irish measure doesn’t move with it.

• Grassley, meanwhile, has offered Schumer a chance for an up-or-down vote on the Irish-visa bill, provided the required skill levels get tweaked and the special-visa program has an end date. There’s no word yet on whether Schumer will accept the offer.

And so, H.R. 3012 sits.

“It’s the only immigration bill that’s probably going to be around for two years,” Grassley said, “so if you want to get some reforms, you take every opportunity you can to take an immigration bill and [fix] other things that are wrong with immigration.”

Grassley’s tactic is exactly what makes passing small, targeted legislation so tough. Pretty soon, a simple, six-page bill is loaded down with pet projects that make it impossible to pass muster. “I’m only adding one thing,” he said. “Anybody trying to add anything to any other bill, you know what you call them? U.S. senator—because that’s what the Senate’s all about. No limit on debate. It’s the deliberating body. Anybody can bring up anything.”

[lost_in_migration]

Apart from posting comments please also spread the link by clicking Facebook-"Like" button on the article and tweeting the link. Right now there are just 15 "Likes" and 12 tweets :confused:

Friends,
Post comments on nationaljournal.com
Consider this as AI. Seems like lots of going in background.
Who got disappointed for no update , here are updates.
Hope now everyone will act.

[dts]

Everyone , please take this seriously and post your comments on http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314.It is very important.
As of now there are 80% negative comments.Common Guys united we can do it.
We need to make this happen.

Rock On Chak De IV.

Where is comment section? On this page we do not see any place to post comment.
Can you explain so everyone can post it.

[gcindia123]

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

click the above link and come down the page.. you can find it.

Where is comment section? On this page we do not see any place to post comment.
Can you explain so everyone can post it.

[Greentown]

Lets every one post their comments. I posted my comments. Thanks for the link.

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

click the above link and come down the page.. you can find it.