HR 3012 general discussion since April 2012

[dipdowndust]

Put comment on the article - Gridlocked out and done AI for today. I had all along suspected that this Irish bill is negatively affecting HR 3012 and now its proved by Grassley's comments.

[immigrant2007]

I think in this case only IV can help us.

[bpratap]

Guys,

Most of us are aware of the importance of commenting on this Report Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314) Please post positive comments on Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314) than discussing about in the forum today / for next few days.

[dts]

I don't think commenting on this article will change anything. The stakholders who can make any change about HR 3012 are the corporations that employ us. It all depends on how hard they want to push this. I wish they do as much as they did to stop SOPA.

Every effort will have effect no matter how small it is.
Placing comment will make this article more visible, ranks higher in google search.
If all will do this, probably it will become more visible than OH law firm based on number of hitting of website.
We all are technology people. Let us take full advantage of technology tricks including facebook , twitter etc:
Any face book page which has more than few thousands 'like' become news in media.
Let us use technology as weapon to reach our voice to all Senators.

[thomachan72]

Guys,

Most of us are aware of the importance of commenting on this Report Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314) Please post positive comments on Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314) than discussing about in the forum today / for next few days.

Yes everybody on this forum pls post a couple of lines supporting our bill in the comment section of this forum. Dont be carried away by the number of negative posts up there. We are not fighting them, all we are doing is letting the readers know the benefits of this bill. pls do your part. Antis pls dont think by posting negative up there you are going to destroy our chance at this bill. It will never happen ultimately we (justice) will prevail. The bill is moving, slowly but surely and we will win. so pls post comments for that news article all IV members

[s416504]

Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests....

Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests - Capital - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/capital/2012/03/15/immigration-bill-gets-caught-up-in-special-interests)

[dts]

Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests....

Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests - Capital - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/capital/2012/03/15/immigration-bill-gets-caught-up-in-special-interests)

Another good post. Keep on comments, facebook and twitter this around.
Let us spread this like wildfire.....

[looivy]

Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

Just posted my comments on on National Journal.

[tyogi]

Here is another $100 contribution to support HR3012.

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 4755-3615-5021-9443

[Gravitation]

Every effort will have effect no matter how small it is.
Placing comment will make this article more visible, ranks higher in google search.
If all will do this, probably it will become more visible than OH law firm based on number of hitting of website.
We all are technology people. Let us take full advantage of technology tricks including facebook , twitter etc:
Any face book page which has more than few thousands 'like' become news in media.
Let us use technology as weapon to reach our voice to all Senators.

Shared it on Facebook. I urge all the readers to do the same. This article needs every bit of visibility it can get.

[amulchandra]

Politics at it's best. Looks like Sen Grassley is looking for a graceful exit.Hope it happens soon.

[Kugr]

Just posted my comments on the NationalJournal article and shared it on Facebook as well. Everyone please do the same. This might force Grassley to lift the hold.

[amulchandra]

I posted my comments.

[iam4u4ever]

Floating Incubator Blueseed Designed To Help Foreign Entrepreneurs - Business News - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/business-news/2012/01/10/floating-incubator-blueseed-designed-to-help-foreign-entrepreneurs/index.html)

[bpratap]

Guys,

Please realize that, important or interested parties to HR3012 is watching the action on Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314)

so please refrain from fighting in the comments section. We got project our support and Positive comments, Not a Fight.

I don't think, IV members are doing the bad stuffs, but if anyone is or know anyone is, Please refrain from it. We are not here to fight, we are here to make our legitimate Voices heard to the right people. We are High SKILLED Immigrants. we should stand up to the word !

[liberty1999]

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/46749576

[looivy]

National Journal to highlight economic struggles - Video on msnbc.com (http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/46749576)

Guys - we should not de-value our experience or ourselves.

EB3-I and C guys in IT are second to none. Believe me we guys are very highly skilled. Most of us are working in software technologies and have experience that this country desperately needs in all of these areas: business, people, process and technology. I urge you to put constructive statements highlighting your experience showcasing all the technologies you know and push your case on National Journal. Talk about impactful things that you have done for your employers that increased their topline and/or bottomline or streamlined their operations. You are a tax, social security, medicare paying individuals and are law abiding.

There should be no discrimination based on your country of birth in business world. Such kind of discrimination is the most ridiculous idea in the business world one can fathom and Grassley is supporting that idea by putting a hold on it. HR3012 does not add a single visa. It has nothing to do with H1.

Use this logic and your experience to push your case forward.

Cheers.

[skrish]

The news story itself is an awesome piece of work I would say ...Good job IV

[skrish]

I see a lot of negative comments piling up aain at Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/young-innovative-and-gridlocked-out-20120315)

Please post your positivve views and flag those that you find distatasteful as inappropriate

[vsrinir]

Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests - Capital - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/capital/2012/03/15/immigration-bill-gets-caught-up-in-special-interests)

[googly26]

Very good article.....Thanks for sharing !!!

[spven]

Buckle down, Sen. Brown - BostonHerald.com (http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/editorials/view.bg?articleid=1061117732)

[lost_in_migration]

Another E3 Article-St. Patrick Day effect!

Senators push visa program for Irish immigrants, but critics call measure ‘political opportunism’ - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/senators-push-visa-program-irish-immigrants-critics-call-measure-political-opportunism-article-1.1040788)

Buckle down, Sen. Brown - BostonHerald.com (http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/editorials/view.bg?articleid=1061117732)

[skrish]

pleas make positive comments wherever you can... this bill too has a lot of negative comments piling up ...

[bibliophile2020]

Guys,

Most of us are aware of the importance of commenting on this Report Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314) Please post positive comments on Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/gridlocked-out-20120314) than discussing about in the forum today / for next few days.

Posted my comments, its like a war zone, lot of back and forth with antis

[Greentown]

Please post only positive comments on the bill. Don't get dragged into the fight with antis. It only defeats our purpose.

[bibliophile2020]

Massachusetts senator pushes bill for Irish work visas - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/election/2012/brown-irish-immigrant-visas/)

[spven]

All these articles point out Grassley was ready to remove his hold, dont know how far it it true.With Irish PM next week in DC, they will lobby hard for it. Lets see....

[senram]

Cnn Article shows that both Iris and hr3012 are in the last stage of negotiation. Though there is no mention of HR 3012 when Grassley lifts hold he will lift both the bills. They will accept the sunset portion and all. This is a good move with negotiating for Irish because negotiation will go on Irish bill without any change for HR3012

Massachusetts senator pushes bill for Irish work visas - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/election/2012/brown-irish-immigrant-visas/)

[waiting3012]

Cnn Article shows that both Iris and hr3012 are in the last stage of negotiation. Though there is no mention of HR 3012 when Grassley lifts hold he will lift both the bills. They will accept the sunset portion and all. This is a good move with negotiating for Irish because negotiation will go on Irish bill without any change for HR3012


I am waiting and praying every day that 3012 will pass but it is hard for me to see anywhere in the cnn article that Grasley will aproove Schumers bill .
I think he is talking about Browns bill S2005 which does not help us at all.
Why should Grasley support Schumers bill and give him the credit if he can push Browns bill knowing that the democrats cannot oppose it .
I also afraid that even if they will aproove Schumers Bill it will get strong opposition when it will get back to the house . Fair and Numbers USA have strong influence in the house and many republicans will be afraid to aproove it knowing it brings more immigrants to the US which was the key point when HR 3012 that no extra visa will be given.
Damm , We all learning a lesson in ugly politics here . How a simple nice bill can be damged and destroyed ( i hope not).
Any way Grasley is using the stand alone HR 3012 to promote his agenda which can be distructive to future skilled immigration and thus being opposed by the Sponsors of the HR 3012 (tech Companies).
I hope that i am wrong .

[amulchandra]

For some reason I have a positive feeling about all this. At least the bill is not dead. There is something going on. Hope the outcome will be good .

[lost_in_migration]

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/R42048.pdf

[immigrant2007]

What is funny here, that the IRISH bill is partial to one country clearly and to some extend can be termed as racial favroing members of a particular country only. Whereas 301, which doesn;t name any country in the bill is a simple bill not vaforing any particular race or country in general. Any country can be number 1 or number 2 in future.

[senram]

You have note that when Grassley removes Hold it does not mean that he will vote for it. he and many of republicans will vote against it. but it needs only simple majority if he removes the hold. If schumers statement is true then 53 democrats votes it is easy to pass in senate

I am waiting and praying every day that 3012 will pass but it is hard for me to see anywhere in the cnn article that Grasley will aproove Schumers bill .
I think he is talking about Browns bill S2005 which does not help us at all.
Why should Grasley support Schumers bill and give him the credit if he can push Browns bill knowing that the democrats cannot oppose it .
I also afraid that even if they will aproove Schumers Bill it will get strong opposition when it will get back to the house . Fair and Numbers USA have strong influence in the house and many republicans will be afraid to aproove it knowing it brings more immigrants to the US which was the key point when HR 3012 that no extra visa will be given.
Damm , We all learning a lesson in ugly politics here . How a simple nice bill can be damged and destroyed ( i hope not).
Any way Grasley is using the stand alone HR 3012 to promote his agenda which can be distructive to future skilled immigration and thus being opposed by the Sponsors of the HR 3012 (tech Companies).
I hope that i am wrong .

[nemehazo]

What is funny here, that the IRISH bill is partial to one country clearly and to some extend can be termed as racial favroing members of a particular country only. Whereas 301, which doesn;t name any country in the bill is a simple bill not vaforing any particular race or country in general. Any country can be number 1 or number 2 in future.

You are right. 3012 is trying to right a little piece that is wrong, and Irish E3 visa is trying to wrong the right.

Don't know why left is left out of this!

[lost_in_migration]

Senator Grassley moves forward with a proposal on E3 visa bill | Irish News | IrishCentral (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Senator-Grassley-moves-forward-with-a-proposal-on-E3-visa-bill-143077985.html)

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[DallasBlue]

will create more jobs when folks buy homes

HR 3012
Part of 'Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth' , remove the hold , because ,

HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors and programmers to get job mobility and go on to research new products and services
will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the economy
will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve economy, (will also bolster the housing loans market )
will help them spend more with the greater sense of security than they will have now
will make the best and brightest to be remain here and rather than compete or start companies elsewhere
will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally
will create more jobs when folks buy homes

pls add anything that is missing here

[nshalady]

Oh law firm's website has an interesting report about HR3606. It is nice to know that this bill has the same country-cap elimination clause as HR3012. Hope that passes in Senate too. Then we wouldn't have to deal with Grassley and E3 stuff! HR3606 has a very good chance of passing, as it is about creating jobs and it is proposed by white house.

[srikant9]

Here is the update on H.R. 3606 from OH law firm http://immigration-law.com/:

03/19/2012: Senate Floor to Continue Debates for JOBS Act, H.R.3606

This is the so-called Jumpstart Our Business Starups Act, which the House has already passed. When it comes to the details, there are disagreements between the Republican caucus and the Democratic caucus, but the basic theme of job creation legislation receives attention not only from the Houses in the Congress, but also from the White House, considering its impact on the November national election. We have reported earlier the skeleton of the White House proposal that contained "Per Country Limitation Elimination" in the employment-based immigration statute, which is very much in line with the H.R. 3012. As the H.R. 3012 is trapped with the Irish E-3 visa bill, the immigrant community is closely watching the chances of EB per country limitation removal proposal attached to the JOBS Act legislation through the process of H.R. 3606 amendment in the Senate. ...

could not find the amendenment that is attached to H.R. 3606 specifically relating to the per country limitations removal...found other amendments but could not find this amendment...

So, if anyone could find it, please post it hear... thanks....

[vsrinir]

H.R.3606 does not have a proposal like " removing per country limits." I think the web site wishing that this proposal would add to H.R.3006


Please correct me If I am wrong...



Here is the update on H.R. 3606 from OH law firm http://immigration-law.com/:

03/19/2012: Senate Floor to Continue Debates for JOBS Act, H.R.3606

This is the so-called Jumpstart Our Business Starups Act, which the House has already passed. When it comes to the details, there are disagreements between the Republican caucus and the Democratic caucus, but the basic theme of job creation legislation receives attention not only from the Houses in the Congress, but also from the White House, considering its impact on the November national election. We have reported earlier the skeleton of the White House proposal that contained "Per Country Limitation Elimination" in the employment-based immigration statute, which is very much in line with the H.R. 3012. As the H.R. 3012 is trapped with the Irish E-3 visa bill, the immigrant community is closely watching the chances of EB per country limitation removal proposal attached to the JOBS Act legislation through the process of H.R. 3606 amendment in the Senate. ...

could not find the amendenment that is attached to H.R. 3606 specifically relating to the per country limitations removal...found other amendments but could not find this amendment...

So, if anyone could find it, please post it hear... thanks....

[srikant9]

Here is the update on H.R. 3606 from OH law firm http://immigration-law.com/:

03/19/2012: Senate Floor to Continue Debates for JOBS Act, H.R.3606

This is the so-called Jumpstart Our Business Starups Act, which the House has already passed. When it comes to the details, there are disagreements between the Republican caucus and the Democratic caucus, but the basic theme of job creation legislation receives attention not only from the Houses in the Congress, but also from the White House, considering its impact on the November national election. We have reported earlier the skeleton of the White House proposal that contained "Per Country Limitation Elimination" in the employment-based immigration statute, which is very much in line with the H.R. 3012. As the H.R. 3012 is trapped with the Irish E-3 visa bill, the immigrant community is closely watching the chances of EB per country limitation removal proposal attached to the JOBS Act legislation through the process of H.R. 3606 amendment in the Senate. ...

could not find the amendenment that is attached to H.R. 3606 specifically relating to the per country limitations removal...found other amendments but could not find this amendment...

So, if anyone could find it, please post it hear... thanks....

[dts]

Oh law firm's website has an interesting report about HR3606. It is nice to know that this bill has the same country-cap elimination clause as HR3012. Hope that passes in Senate too. Then we wouldn't have to deal with Grassley and E3 stuff! HR3606 has a very good chance of passing, as it is about creating jobs and it is proposed by white house.

Seems like positive things going on.
1) Grassley may remove hold on HR3012. ( Hope he is not negotiang with Irish lobby to remove hold on only Brown Bill and keep hold on HR3012 ).
2) H.R.3606.. Not heard much on that but if that passes and resolve our issues ,nothing better like that. However yet not clear what HR3606 means.
3) In the worst case,there is possiblilityof cloture motion if Grassley adamant on his hold.

Let us hope something will come out in our favor. Keep faith and keep on our efforts up without getting frustreted or disappointed.

IV team is obviously doing great job.

[howzatt]

Good to see some momentum on our side, things could interesting in the next few weeks. Judging by the media coverage in the past few days, it's safe to say that the bill is in good shape. Let's get this done!!

[spven]

I don't think 3606 "jobs bill" that passed house has 3012 provisions. OH story was hoping some senator will offer an amendment to that. Havent seen any such amendment yet. Even if it is done, Once changes are made; it has to go back to the house or they have to go for conference. Our path is the same be it 3606 or with E3. Still way to go.......

[Gravitation]

...
could not find the amendenment that is attached to H.R. 3606 specifically relating to the per country limitations removal...found other amendments but could not find this amendment...

So, if anyone could find it, please post it hear... thanks....

Per country limitations removal is not attached to H.R. 3606. It's speculation on Oh's part that it might be attached as an amendment. The reason behind this speculation is that it's part of President's agenda for Job creation (purpose of H.R. 3606). That said, no activity in the senate has given any indication to this effect.

Not to put any optimistic or pessimistic spin on it... everything is very very fluid right now.

[Gravitation]

The real purpose of H.R. 3606... in plain language:

JOBS Act to rewrite rules of Silicon Valley investing | Rafe's Radar - CNET News (http://news.cnet.com/8301-19882_3-57399618-250/jobs-act-to-rewrite-rules-of-silicon-valley-investing/)

[nshalady]

You guys are right. I misunderstood what I read on immigration-law.com. He is just hoping that the proposal of country cap elimination would get added. That has to be initiated by someone. Hope some senator takes that initiative!

[bibliophile2020]

Sen. Brown on Pierse Morgan tonight!

[gk_2000]

You guys are right. I misunderstood what I read on immigration-law.com. He is just hoping that the proposal of country cap elimination would get added. That has to be initiated by someone. Hope some senator takes that initiative!

I don't understand how/why your guys have that hope. 3606, when I googled it, only came up with some obscure (from our point of view) technicalities about sec reporting requirements. how is our issue related in any way?

[gk_2000]

You guys are right. I misunderstood what I read on immigration-law.com. He is just hoping that the proposal of country cap elimination would get added. That has to be initiated by someone. Hope some senator takes that initiative!

I don't understand how/why your guys have that hope. 3606, when I googled it, only came up with some obscure (from our point of view) technicalities about sec reporting requirements. how is our issue related in any way?

[bibliophile2020]

Sen. Brown on Piers Morgan tonight. Let's see if we are going to here anything related to immigration reform!

[gujju]

Sen. Brown on Piers Morgan tonight. Let's see if we are going to here anything related to immigration reform!


I heard the completely interview Immigration was not discussed at all.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[gk_2000]

Posted my comments, its like a war zone, lot of back and forth with antis

I wish our guys would stop responding to the trolls there and simply focus on informative comments... they are the ones that end up looking foolish for arguing with those trolls!

[shyamuk1235]

Guys,

HR 3992 passed in the house. if someone could attach HR 3012 to this bill it would pass in Senate like a breeze

[ds37]

Guys,

HR 3992 passed in the house. if someone could attach HR 3012 to this bill it would pass in Senate like a breeze

From now on HR3012 is attached to HR3992

HR3012######HR3992


done.

DS:)

[gc_check]

Israeli E-Visa Bill (HR3992) had nothing do with H.R. 3012 - At least based on the
THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php) website.

[praskar]

Exciting times! Congrats to all our Israeli friends! HR3012 up next!!

[dts]

Exciting times! Congrats to all our Israeli friends! HR3012 up next!!

Phirse Sannata !!!;)

[ds37]

Guys,

HR 3992 passed in the house. if someone could attach HR 3012 to this bill it would pass in Senate like a breeze

here is the status of this bill in senate.



On 3/19/12, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 3992 by a vote of 371-0. There is a companion bill in the Senate, S 921, introduced by Senator Schumer on 5/9/11, however the Senate Judiciary committee has not yet considered this bill. We will update as soon as more information becomes available.

[lost_in_migration]

Irish E3 visa bill may come to a vote in the Senate any day.... apprehends NumbersUSA

A patriotic St. Pat's Day wish -- No more pandering to illegal Irish taking Americans' jobs | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/march-18-2012/patriotic-st-pats-day-wish-no-more-pandering-illegal-irish-taking-ameri)

Not sure which E3... S.2005 or S.1983 :confused:

[psychedelicNerd]

Irish E3 visa bill may come to a vote in the Senate any day.... apprehends NumbersUSA

A patriotic St. Pat's Day wish -- No more pandering to illegal Irish taking Americans' jobs | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/march-18-2012/patriotic-st-pats-day-wish-no-more-pandering-illegal-irish-taking-ameri)

Not sure which E3... S.2005 or S.1983 :confused:

I don't think thats what the article says. I think this article hurts E3 and possibly 3012 a lot

[lost_in_migration]

There are 2 elements to the article a) News element & b) Editorial element. The 'Editorial' intent is obviously to hurt E3 and that is expected from NumbersUSA, thats why I used the word apprehends.

The 'News' element is very small (as highlighted in quote below) and that is what I was referring to. NumbersUSA and FAIR probably have deep reach in Washington and hence the timing of this article along with the other related articles that came up last week tend to suggest E3 may come up in Senate pretty soon.

The arguments for special work visas for Irish workers that may come to a vote in the Senate any day are among the most offensive and baseless that I've ever seen. As engorged and harmful as is our current level of foreign workers, can you imagine what would happen if every nationality asked for the same favors that the Irish lobby is asking in this bill?

I don't think thats what the article says. I think this article hurts E3 and possibly 3012 a lot

[spven]

Schumer should club 3992 with 3012 and e3. That should breeze through both houses. I don't think anybody including uncle G will block 3992 though they can argue the same for blocking. Dealing with mighty AIPAC and it's allies isn't the same as IV or ILIR

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[abhayjo]

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Keep up the good work IV. Hope for H.R 3012 there is light at the end of the tunnel.

[PennId]

we had enough with Reps on hr 3012. now, it is Dems turn now on JOBS bill

What's Holding Up the JOBS Act? | Inc.com (http://www.inc.com/eric-markowitz/why-the-jobs-act-is-stalled-in-congress.html)

[vsrinir]

Republican Senator Scott Brown remains committed to Irish E3 | Irish News | IrishCentral (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Republican-Senator-Scott-Brown-remains-committed-to-Irish-E3--143626386.html)

[gk_2000]

"Remains committed" HAHAHA a good laugh. I think this term is used whenever they are unable to do something....?

[njverifier]

"Remains committed" HAHAHA a good laugh. I think this term is used whenever they are unable to do something....?

Correction it should be "Remains committed" HAHAHA a good laugh. I think this term is used whenever they are unable to do ANYTHING....?

[njverifier]

we had enough with Reps on hr 3012. now, it is Dems turn now on JOBS bill

What's Holding Up the JOBS Act? | Inc.com (http://www.inc.com/eric-markowitz/why-the-jobs-act-is-stalled-in-congress.html)

So much for the much hyped JOBS Act... LMAO!!!

[vsrinir]

It seems not much activity in this thread H.R3012.

Looks like many people came to know the fate of this bill H.R.3012.

[spven]

Honor the Special Relationship between America and Ireland by Passing the Irish E3 Visa Bill - Statements & Commentary - Press Office - U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (http://durbin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/statementscommentary?ID=09dd1e27-cdb6-491d-9fc1-948b70d01bf5)

[senram]

I doubt Hr3012 and E3 for Irish will get same treatment as 3992. US always gave priority treatment to their Allies. See TN Visa,Australian Visa etc etc. Countries like India and China are treated as need basis.

There are negotiations going on for Irish E3 but no one is sure that includes Hr3012. But still lot of time is there to get the result Unless the bill is defeated or Dec 31 comes bill is under consideration

Schumer should club 3992 with 3012 and e3. That should breeze through both houses. I don't think anybody including uncle G will block 3992 though they can argue the same for blocking. Dealing with mighty AIPAC and it's allies isn't the same as IV or ILIR

[bibliophile2020]

Done AI

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[giri26]

Doing my AI and in full support of the IV movement but it is still frustrating. I am dreading the fact that I need to go for H1B stamping once again this year. I have been in the US for 10 years and I am still in the limbo status. I know you guys would say quit the job and port to EB2 but it is not as easy as it looks. I just hope that something happens soon and there is some relief for EB3 people. I am still kicking myself as I missed the 2007 July rush by couple of months. If only my company had filed the labor on time I would atleast have my EAD by now.

[bibliophile2020]

You are late for AI today!

[giri26]

I said I am doing AI regularly, did not say that I was doing my AI now :)

[dts]

All talks about JOBS bill ( without H.R.3012 provisions), Irish E3 Visa bill and Israel E2 Visa bills.
Concern is that Senate may pass standalone E3 visa bill by dumping H.R.3012 in dustbin.
Is it time to start flower compaign for H.R.3012 which is most FAIR and TRUTH?
Flower comapign should be to:

1) Grassley to respectfully request him to remove hold.
2) Senate majority leader Herry Reis and Minority leader macconnel to invoke cloture for H.R.3012.

This may highlight bill in media like it did in July 2007 fiasco.
If bill is going nowhere , we have nothing to loose. No harm to try that.

Friends, what do you think?
Obviously IV core team need to approve this.

[kickapp]

In Washington, Senate bill pushes to aid Irish migrants - News from The Arizona Republic (http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/03/21/in-washington-senate-bill-pushes-to-aid-irish-migrants/)

[giri26]

Update in the OH law firm:

As this reporter speculated earlier this morning, it appears that the negotiation among the three key Senators, Schumer, Grassley, and Brown has been making some in-road to comprise to "probably" to Schumer bill that combines H.R. 3012 and Irish E-3 visa bill. Senator Schumer earlier announced that he was willing to give up illegal Irish relief porttion of his bill and keep just legal Irish E-3 visa provision in his bill. That narrow down to a small difference between Sen. Brown bill and Sen. Schumer bill involving H.R. 3012. Brown bill did not include H.R. 3012. However, Sen. Brown afterwards conceded that he was willing to accept H.R. 3012 as part of the compromise. There was also one report earlier that Sen. Grassley was focusing on the tightening of the eligibility of Irish E-3 visa applicants to advanced level of professionals. Inasmuch as Sen. Grassley would drop his earlier position to add H-1B and L-1 restriction provisions to the bill, there is indeed some chance that the final product of the bi-partisan tri-party compromise can lead to the passage of the bill in the Senate. Please pay attention to the "dynamics" of the on-going compromise in the negotiation. We are trying to connect from dot to dot to assess the development. Please stay tuned to this website for the development of this news.

[Suva]

Great News.

Update in the OH law firm:

As this reporter speculated earlier this morning, it appears that the negotiation among the three key Senators, Schumer, Grassley, and Brown has been making some in-road to comprise to "probably" to Schumer bill that combines H.R. 3012 and Irish E-3 visa bill. Senator Schumer earlier announced that he was willing to give up illegal Irish relief porttion of his bill and keep just legal Irish E-3 visa provision in his bill. That narrow down to a small difference between Sen. Brown bill and Sen. Schumer bill involving H.R. 3012. Brown bill did not include H.R. 3012. However, Sen. Brown afterwards conceded that he was willing to accept H.R. 3012 as part of the compromise. There was also one report earlier that Sen. Grassley was focusing on the tightening of the eligibility of Irish E-3 visa applicants to advanced level of professionals. Inasmuch as Sen. Grassley would drop his earlier position to add H-1B and L-1 restriction provisions to the bill, there is indeed some chance that the final product of the bi-partisan tri-party compromise can lead to the passage of the bill in the Senate. Please pay attention to the "dynamics" of the on-going compromise in the negotiation. We are trying to connect from dot to dot to assess the development. Please stay tuned to this website for the development of this news.

[amulchandra]

Hypothetically if HR 3012 passes along with Irish provision then it has to go back to house again right? What is the guarantee that it will be picked up again and passed in the house?

[psychedelicNerd]

Hypothetically if HR 3012 passes along with Irish provision then it has to go back to house again right? What is the guarantee that it will be picked up again and passed in the house?

I think it will but maybe someone can confirm that for sure. Looking at the way Israeli provisions got voted, maybe this one will fly in the House with the same enthusiasm. Not too sure but we'll see.

[spulugur]

This can be resolved through a conference between house and senate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_conference_committee).

[lost_in_migration]

There is no guarantee about anything when it come to US congress but it has better chance that standalone HR 3012 even getting introduced in the Senate.

Grassley is trying to put some restrictions on the E3-Irish part of the bill and those restrictions will make E3+HR3012 more "passable" in the republican controlled house.

Inadvertently Grassley's amendments to E3(Qualifications+ Sun-setting provision) would make the whole package sail through to President's desk.

Hypothetically if HR 3012 passes along with Irish provision then it has to go back to house again right? What is the guarantee that it will be picked up again and passed in the house?

[gc_check]

There is no guarantee about anything when it come to US congress but it has better chance that standalone HR 3012 even getting introduced in the Senate.

Grassley is trying to put some restrictions on the E3-Irish part of the bill and those restrictions will make E3+HR3012 more "passable" in the republican controlled house.

Inadvertently Grassley's amendments to E3(Qualifications+ Sun-setting provision) would make the whole package sail through to President's desk.

Well, you post sound too optimistic !!!! Good to see postive comments though :)
Hope this reaches the President's desk for signature much sooner...

[lost_in_migration]

My optimism is not totally unfounded though. After a lull of more than 3.5 months since HR3012 passed there has been sudden upsurge, since last week, of articles related to E3+HR3012 in the Non-Irish media.

I think a bill that has HR3012+E2+Restricted-E3 has a very good chance to get quicker on the Senate/House floor (rather than rotting on Calendar 293). And once a chance to vote is allowed without Hold/Filibuster then actual passage of the bill is not an issue.

Links of recent articles related to E3+HR3012
1) http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/young-innovative-and-gridlocked-out-20120315
2) http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/capital/2012/03/15/immigration-bill-gets-caught-up-in-special-interests
3) http://www.emigrate.co.uk/news/20120316-2040_us-senator-grassley-blocks-irish-bill
4) http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/election/2012/brown-irish-immigrant-visas/index.html?iref=allsearch
5) http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/1829319645?page=NewsArticle&id=24909&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1012
6) http://durbin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/statementscommentary?ID=09dd1e27-cdb6-491d-9fc1-948b70d01bf5
7) http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/03/21/in-washington-senate-bill-pushes-to-aid-irish-migrants/
8) http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/march-18-2012/patriotic-st-pats-day-wish-no-more-pandering-illegal-irish-taking-ameri
9)
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20120316us_sen_scott_brown_continues_push_for_iris h_work_visas/srvc=home&position=recent

Well, you post sound too optimistic !!!! Good to see postive comments though :)
Hope this reaches the President's desk for signature much sooner...

[sukhwinderd]

Sen Grassley will let others what they want without asking for what he wants.
in other words if E-3 goes through, H1/L1 issue has to go through.



Update in the OH law firm:

As this reporter speculated earlier this morning, it appears that the negotiation among the three key Senators, Schumer, Grassley, and Brown has been making some in-road to comprise to "probably" to Schumer bill that combines H.R. 3012 and Irish E-3 visa bill. Senator Schumer earlier announced that he was willing to give up illegal Irish relief porttion of his bill and keep just legal Irish E-3 visa provision in his bill. That narrow down to a small difference between Sen. Brown bill and Sen. Schumer bill involving H.R. 3012. Brown bill did not include H.R. 3012. However, Sen. Brown afterwards conceded that he was willing to accept H.R. 3012 as part of the compromise. There was also one report earlier that Sen. Grassley was focusing on the tightening of the eligibility of Irish E-3 visa applicants to advanced level of professionals. Inasmuch as Sen. Grassley would drop his earlier position to add H-1B and L-1 restriction provisions to the bill, there is indeed some chance that the final product of the bi-partisan tri-party compromise can lead to the passage of the bill in the Senate. Please pay attention to the "dynamics" of the on-going compromise in the negotiation. We are trying to connect from dot to dot to assess the development. Please stay tuned to this website for the development of this news.

[gc_check]

My optimism is not totally unfounded though. After a lull of more than 3.5 months since HR3012 passed there has been sudden upsurge, since last week, of articles related to E3+HR3012 in the Non-Irish media.

I think a bill that has HR3012+E2+Restricted-E3 has a very good chance to get quicker on the Senate/House floor (rather than rotting on Calendar 293). And once a chance to vote is allowed without Hold/Filibuster then actual passage of the bill is not an issue.

Links of recent articles related to E3+HR3012
1) Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/young-innovative-and-gridlocked-out-20120315)
2) Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests - Capital - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/capital/2012/03/15/immigration-bill-gets-caught-up-in-special-interests)
3) US Senator Grassley blocks Irish and IT immigration bill | Emigrate News | Emigrate UK (http://www.emigrate.co.uk/news/20120316-2040_us-senator-grassley-blocks-irish-bill)
4) Massachusetts senator pushes bill for Irish work visas - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/election/2012/brown-irish-immigrant-visas/index.html?iref=allsearch)
5) FAIR: FAIR Legislative Update March 12, 2012 (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/1829319645?page=NewsArticle&id=24909&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1012)
6) Honor the Special Relationship between America and Ireland by Passing the Irish E3 Visa Bill - Statements & Commentary - Press Office - U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (http://durbin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/statementscommentary?ID=09dd1e27-cdb6-491d-9fc1-948b70d01bf5)
7) In Washington, Senate bill pushes to aid Irish migrants - News from The Arizona Republic (http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/03/21/in-washington-senate-bill-pushes-to-aid-irish-migrants/)
8) A patriotic St. Pat's Day wish -- No more pandering to illegal Irish taking Americans' jobs | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/march-18-2012/patriotic-st-pats-day-wish-no-more-pandering-illegal-irish-taking-ameri)
9)
US Sen. Scott Brown continues push for Irish work visas - BostonHerald.com (http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20120316us_sen_scott_brown_continues_push_for_iris h_work_visas/srvc=home&position=recent)

That is true. Seeing something in Media is better than no news at all. Though happy for EB2 and other who are current, It is not so nice and painful to see EB3 stuck so badly. Also porting is not always an option, though you are qualified for it. It is easy said and done. Only hope for any EB3 (worldwide,I/C, etc) is H.R.3012. Hope this reaches a good end sooner before the already started Presidentail election & partision politics gets momentum and spreads even further in late spring and summer. Immigration is always a sensitive issue even in good times.

[dts]

My optimism is not totally unfounded though. After a lull of more than 3.5 months since HR3012 passed there has been sudden upsurge, since last week, of articles related to E3+HR3012 in the Non-Irish media.

I think a bill that has HR3012+E2+Restricted-E3 has a very good chance to get quicker on the Senate/House floor (rather than rotting on Calendar 293). And once a chance to vote is allowed without Hold/Filibuster then actual passage of the bill is not an issue.

Links of recent articles related to E3+HR3012
1) Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/young-innovative-and-gridlocked-out-20120315)
2) Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests - Capital - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/capital/2012/03/15/immigration-bill-gets-caught-up-in-special-interests)
3) US Senator Grassley blocks Irish and IT immigration bill | Emigrate News | Emigrate UK (http://www.emigrate.co.uk/news/20120316-2040_us-senator-grassley-blocks-irish-bill)
4) Massachusetts senator pushes bill for Irish work visas - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/election/2012/brown-irish-immigrant-visas/index.html?iref=allsearch)
5) FAIR: FAIR Legislative Update March 12, 2012 (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/1829319645?page=NewsArticle&id=24909&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1012)
6) Honor the Special Relationship between America and Ireland by Passing the Irish E3 Visa Bill - Statements & Commentary - Press Office - U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (http://durbin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/statementscommentary?ID=09dd1e27-cdb6-491d-9fc1-948b70d01bf5)
7) In Washington, Senate bill pushes to aid Irish migrants - News from The Arizona Republic (http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/03/21/in-washington-senate-bill-pushes-to-aid-irish-migrants/)
8) A patriotic St. Pat's Day wish -- No more pandering to illegal Irish taking Americans' jobs | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/march-18-2012/patriotic-st-pats-day-wish-no-more-pandering-illegal-irish-taking-ameri)
9)
US Sen. Scott Brown continues push for Irish work visas - BostonHerald.com (http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20120316us_sen_scott_brown_continues_push_for_iris h_work_visas/srvc=home&position=recent)

Yes. There is sudden movement on E3 + HR3012. Hope Senate/ Grassley will not go alone with E3 bill but would take up HR3012 alongwith. Something positive will come out in next few days.
IV admin, Shoudl we start flower compaign as AI?

[Greentown]

In the mean time, lets post some positive comments on the above article

Link is here

In Washington, Senate bill pushes to aid Irish migrants - News from The Arizona Republic (http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/03/21/in-washington-senate-bill-pushes-to-aid-irish-migrants/)

[Greentown]

Lets post some positive comments on that article

Here is the link

In Washington, Senate bill pushes to aid Irish migrants - News from The Arizona Republic (http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/03/21/in-washington-senate-bill-pushes-to-aid-irish-migrants/)

[Greentown]

Please don't forget to mention HR3012 in your comments. NO FIGHTING COMMENTS WITH ANTIS.

[gk_2000]

Yes. There is sudden movement on E3 + HR3012. Hope Senate/ Grassley will not go alone with E3 bill but would take up HR3012 alongwith. Something positive will come out in next few days.
IV admin, Shoudl we start flower compaign as AI?

Whenever they're short of customers, they ramp up on their writing..

[PennId]

It may be good idea to start a Flower Campaign for Pres and all three key senators.

Yes. There is sudden movement on E3 + HR3012. Hope Senate/ Grassley will not go alone with E3 bill but would take up HR3012 alongwith. Something positive will come out in next few days.
IV admin, Shoudl we start flower compaign as AI?

[Ajoshi]

the flower campaign might offend the senators who are already for HR3012.
We surely don't want stir the water there.

But in case of senator Grassly, I think we should try flower campaign on him. He has given all of us quite a bit of grief. Atleast, we should make him realize that there are 10s of thousands who are eagerly waiting with fingers crossed. He decision is causing much frustration to all of us.


It may be good idea to start a Flower Campaign for Pres and all three key senators.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[dts]

the flower campaign might offend the senators who are already for HR3012.
We surely don't want stir the water there.

But in case of senator Grassly, I think we should try flower campaign on him. He has given all of us quite a bit of grief. Atleast, we should make him realize that there are 10s of thousands who are eagerly waiting with fingers crossed. He decision is causing much frustration to all of us.

Yes. Flower compaign should be atleast to President, Grassley, Brown, Schummer and Herry Reid. ( Not to all Senators )
But IV Admin should approve this compaign.
Where is IV admin?

[spven]

Lets not jump the gun yet on flower campaign. Let us wait for IV core instructions. There is one good news looking at Sen Durbins statement. He along with Grassley is considered anti-H1B. His statement seems that Dems aren't looking for any tightening of H1/L1 that are unacceptable to Tech industry. That leaves with accomadating Sen Grassley on sunset provisions for E3 & what ever else he has on H1/L1. Hopefully these matters will be resolved soon. Except Postal reform & federal judges, I dont think senate has no pressing matters to do in near future, rest of the stuff will be mostly for political posturing getting ready for elections. Patience.............

[amulchandra]

Please have patience. Trust me I don't sleep at nights some days because of this GC limbo. I know it is tough. But I feel that we are almost there. Do not do anything without IV's instructions.

[giri26]

As we reported yesterday, Senator Dick Durbin, the second highest person in the Senate Majority Democratic Caucus next to Sen. Harry Reid actively came forward calling Republican Senators to support the Senator Schumer bill which is co-sponsored by himself and the Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Patrick Leahy. Read also his statement on the Senate floor. Currently pressure is mounting on the Republican Senators to pass this bill. Read on.

[giri26]

Update on the OH Law firm, failed to include that part.

[bigboy007]

Flower campaign for what ? Dont do anything with out IV's directions... just follow directions we will all succeed.

Yes. Flower compaign should be atleast to President, Grassley, Brown, Schummer and Herry Reid. ( Not to all Senators )
But IV Admin should approve this compaign.
Where is IV admin?

[srij]

Flower campaign for what ? Dont do anything with out IV's directions... just follow directions we will all succeed.

Precisely my point. For what ever reason when I see the guys posting about Flower campaign, I keep thinking "Nice try guys..." :D Any way giving the benefit of doubt let me summarize my thoughts : BE PATIENT!!

[lost_in_migration]

A few more articles in Non-Irish media... some new some republished on different site

Links of recent articles related to E3+HR3012
1) Ali Noorani: Bipartisan Visa Reform? Hold on (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-noorani/bipartisan-visa-reform-ho_b_1368370.html)
2) Irish immigration bill draws ire from advocates – USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-03-22/irish-immigration-congress/53706766/1)
3) Terence Clarke: No Irish Need Apply (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terence-clarke/immigration_b_1363640.html)
4) Sen. Brown Sponsors Bill to Let 10,500 Irish a Year Enter US to Work (http://www.newsmax.com/US/Brown-Irish-immigrant-work/2012/03/22/id/433608)
5) Immigration Reform Is Key to Job Creation - Economic Intelligence (usnews.com) (http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/03/23/immigration-reform-is-key-to-job-creation)


Links of recent articles related to E3+HR3012
1) Gridlocked Out - Fawn Johnson, Beth Reinhard and Chris Frates - NationalJournal.com (http://www.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/young-innovative-and-gridlocked-out-20120315)
2) Immigration Bill Gets Caught Up In Special Interests - Capital - Portfolio.com (http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/capital/2012/03/15/immigration-bill-gets-caught-up-in-special-interests)
3) US Senator Grassley blocks Irish and IT immigration bill | Emigrate News | Emigrate UK (http://www.emigrate.co.uk/news/20120316-2040_us-senator-grassley-blocks-irish-bill)
4) Massachusetts senator pushes bill for Irish work visas - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/election/2012/brown-irish-immigrant-visas/index.html?iref=allsearch)
5) FAIR: FAIR Legislative Update March 12, 2012 (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2/1829319645?page=NewsArticle&id=24909&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1012)
6) Honor the Special Relationship between America and Ireland by Passing the Irish E3 Visa Bill - Statements & Commentary - Press Office - U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (http://durbin.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/statementscommentary?ID=09dd1e27-cdb6-491d-9fc1-948b70d01bf5)
7) In Washington, Senate bill pushes to aid Irish migrants - News from The Arizona Republic (http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/03/21/in-washington-senate-bill-pushes-to-aid-irish-migrants/)
8) A patriotic St. Pat's Day wish -- No more pandering to illegal Irish taking Americans' jobs | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/march-18-2012/patriotic-st-pats-day-wish-no-more-pandering-illegal-irish-taking-ameri)
9) US Sen. Scott Brown continues push for Irish work visas - BostonHerald.com (http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20120316us_sen_scott_brown_continues_push_for_iris h_work_visas/srvc=home&position=recent)

[NUS]

I think they will pass the Irish bill while dumping HR 3012. After all the Irish have historical links to the US while Indians do not.

[donquit]

EB-2 for India/China to Retrogress to August 15, 2007 in May 2012. So are we going to wait till May & then support HR3012? Wake up EB-2's.

[lost_in_migration]

Roy on CNN to Discuss Irish Work Visa bill - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k5oTaCjCUZk)

[go_guy123]

Exciting times! Congrats to all our Israeli friends! HR3012 up next!!

Buddy you need a major class on Israel lobby in US of A. It was passsed with 0 (ZERO)
Nays.

Congressmen who want to oppose this bill would rather miss voting than face the wrath.

It woudl interesting if Grassley or others would dare to hold it up in Senate.

[looivy]

I think they will pass the Irish bill while dumping HR 3012. After all the Irish have historical links to the US while Indians do not.

If they do pass E3, it will be purely based on the color of the skin. This will prove how racist Grassley is.

[NUS]

It is not the color of the skin..as I said Irish are historical immigrants and there are a no of Irish senators and congressman. How many Indians origin senators or congressmen are there? none.

So we cannot compare ourself with the Irish or as some one said before with the Israelis. We are outsiders with very less influence so must lobby differently.

[immigrant2007]

I think they will pass the Irish bill while dumping HR 3012. After all the Irish have historical links to the US while Indians do not.

Irish and Israel Biils don't represent fairness. We also agreed to 3012 as it favored us though it is called as fairness. It would have been fair if instead of top 2 countries it would have said that VISA will go to those based on first come first serve basis. We thought time and tide are on our side only to realize...... there is nothing fair in Politics (as politics is above all).
BTW lets wait and be positive before drawing any final conclusion.

[spven]

E2 will flyby irrespective of 3012. E3 wil not unless there is a standalone E3 bill comes from house. Standalone E3 in senate was now added to 3012. We will swim or sink with E3. Schumer & Brown very well know that E3 has to be clubbed with 3012 since they dont know how much support it has in the house. Give it a few more weeks, things will be clear.

[bibliophile2020]

Done AI, Go HR 3012!

[dpuranik]

US senator working on bill to allow more visas to Indians (http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-senator-working-on-bill-to-allow-more-visas-to-indians-189781?pfrom=home-otherstories)

[lost_in_migration]

Indian IT industry would have asked Sant Singh Chatwal to talk to Sentors for more H1/L1 visas. They don't care much about HR3012. But Schumer is indeed referring to HR 3012 in the following quote from the article. Sant Singh Chatwal who is oblivious about HR 3012 may have thought that they were referring to H1/L1 ;)

In context of what is happening right now, the whole article seems so out-of-place :confused: Earlier Sen. Reid's said that he won't allow any other immigration bills w/o DREAM Act, and now Schumer is saying that Reid will get it passed very fast.
Thanks for posting the article.

"I am working to try and change the immigration laws so more Indians can come (to the US). One of the things that Harry and I care a lot about is changing the visas. So more Indians can come here to travel," Schumer told PTI after the meeting.

"the visa laws are a little bit too restrictive so we are working on a bipartisan bill. Harry Reid is going to try to help us get it passed very fast."


US senator working on bill to allow more visas to Indians (http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-senator-working-on-bill-to-allow-more-visas-to-indians-189781?pfrom=home-otherstories)

[reflash78]

Indian IT industry would have asked Sant Singh Chatwal to talk to Sentors for more H1/L1 visas. They don't care much about HR3012. But Schumer is indeed referring to HR 3012 in the following quote from the article. Sant Singh Chatwal who is oblivious about HR 3012 may have thought that they were referring to H1/L1 ;)

In context of what is happening right now, the whole article seems so out-of-place :confused: Earlier Sen. Reid's said that he won't allow any other immigration bills w/o DREAM Act, and now Schumer is saying that Reid will get it passed very fast.
Thanks for posting the article.

they might be working for a new bill regarding L1/H1, not 3012, from the context itself.

[greyhair]

Reality is, nobody knows what is happening with this bill except IV core. If it is a bill that needs to pass, it will pass. We have done our little part. I am sure IV won't drop the bill so easily after spending enormous effort ( money, lobbying and time) on the bill.

Let us pray and hope for the best.

they might be working for a new bill regarding L1/H1, not 3012, from the context itself.


This is a self serving meaningless article, could possibly be paid for by Chatwal. Its only goal is to show that Chatwal is "so powerful" that he can get more visas for Indians, which is not going to happen. The real world is far from this myth. Most likely Senator Reid and Schumer went to a fund raiser where other IT shop owners were present. Senators - The wizard of the words - said things in a politically correct language. But Chatwal and others IT shop owners (most not very highly qualified) only heard what they wanted to hear. And ever unreliable PTI, as always filed a false/factually incorrect report with the headlines - "more H1/L1" visas. Fundraisers like Chatwal raise money from IT shop owners on a promise to get something in return. So these people have a need for this misinformation.

Senator Reid and Schumer said more visas for travel. But for these guys there is only 1 kind of visa - H1/L1. Green cards are also visas but how would these guys and reporters at PTI know? IT shop guys don't make money from green cards and Chatwal can't collect money/raise funds for green cards. So they just wanted to hear "more visas" = more H1s/L1s.

Often out of context and pandering Indian print media is unreliable. Senator Reid and Schumer were trying to say that "more Indians can come here to travel" and "wants more Indians coming to America and spending in the economy" and "Mr Reid said he would also like Indians to visit Las Vegas for business". All this means more visitors visas and it makes sense, see below-

US visa norms ease for Indian tourists, students - Times Of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-22/india/31224334_1_visa-application-process-work-visas-visa-norms)

AND - "we are working on a bipartisan bill. Harry Reid is going to try to help us get it passed very fast" probably refers to HR3012.

But PTI/NDTV, possibly pushed by Chatwal, changed the subject and entire meaning of the conversation to wrongly imply "more H1/L1s for Indians", which is not going to happen, understandably for the right reasons.

H1 numbers should not be increased and L1 must to be put to check. I work for Accenture and there are just too many L1s, most of whom are not treated fairly.

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[lost_in_migration]

Very nicely summarized :)

This is a self serving meaningless article, could possibly be paid for by Chatwal. Its only goal is to show that Chatwal is "so powerful" that he can get more visas for Indians, which is not going to happen. ....

[spven]

See the link for Sen Grassley's opinion on H1B. Atleast he isnt talking about 3012...
Restore integrity of U.S. visa system in order to give graduates more jobs - The Daily Iowan (http://www.dailyiowan.com/2012/03/21/Opinions/27483.html)

[psaxena]

Old news.

[njverifier]

Ithna sannata kyon hai bhai???

[shining]

Lull before the storm --- I guess

Ithna sannata kyon hai bhai???

[spven]

Looks like nothing for next 2 days as they will be doing political posturing for next 2 days discussing a bill that has no chance of passage, third time in the last one year. This is insane, it is something to consider postal reform or another bill that deals on jobs or deficit. This is politicians at their best anywhere in the world

[skrish]

Could be Lull after the storm too :(

[gk_2000]

Could be Lull after the storm too :(

It's 12 AM here and you bump this thread to write this &*^*# ? Go to bed!

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[spicy_guy]

It's 12 AM here and you bump this thread to write this &*^*# ? Go to bed!

Lol!

[vsrinir]

THOMAS Top Ten for 3/24/2012 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/topten/topten_20120324.html)

[thomachan72]

THOMAS Top Ten for 3/24/2012 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/topten/topten_20120324.html)

Need to check H.R.3012 here more often guys!

[sagar8880]

Apart from this HR 3012, if IV works on i485 filing without waiting for PD current.
That would be really really helpful to many of the Indians. We'll have atleast EAD's in hand, Job flexibility, travel flexibility will be there. Without EAD we'll be ended up sticking to same employer for decades.

This is very very small change for USCIS, they just need to accept the i485 applications as they are accepting for i140.

[gk_2000]

Apart from this HR 3012, if IV works on i485 filing without waiting for PD current.
That would be really really helpful to many of the Indians. We'll have atleast EAD's in hand, Job flexibility, travel flexibility will be there. Without EAD we'll be ended up sticking to same employer for decades.

This is very very small change for USCIS, they just need to accept the i485 applications as they are accepting for i140.

If this could be done, IV would have done it long back. There is something holding them back. I personally don't expect anything from IV regarding this, just by the way it was put to an unfair impossible vote test and then discarded

[gk_2000]

THOMAS Top Ten for 3/24/2012 - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (http://thomas.loc.gov/home/topten/topten_20120324.html)

November is coming near, not going far....

[bpratap]

Apart from this HR 3012, if IV works on i485 filing without waiting for PD current.
That would be really really helpful to many of the Indians. We'll have atleast EAD's in hand, Job flexibility, travel flexibility will be there. Without EAD we'll be ended up sticking to same employer for decades.

This is very very small change for USCIS, they just need to accept the i485 applications as they are accepting for i140.


As far I know this is not a minor tweak in USCIS process, its a rule created by congress. IV was already working on this, But at this Point, lets all work towards HR. 3012.

Ask yourself, do you want to get Green Card and enJoy FULL FREEDOM , or juz file 485 n njoy partial freedom ?

[greencard.wait]

It's been more than 2 months HR3012 is been read but still not placed on Calendar. Any idea in future when it will be placed ?


H.R.3012
Latest Title: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011
Sponsor: Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] (introduced 9/22/2011) Cosponsors (11)
Related Bills: H.R.3476, S.1857, S.1866, S.1983
Latest Major Action: 1/23/2012 Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 293.
House Reports: 112-292

[shining]

It was supposed to be the best new years gift
then some one said it will be best valentine's day gift
and then it will be signed by St. Patrick's Day . . .
What next
April Fool's Day . . . .
or more realistic
the July 4th to get liberated . . . .

It's been more than 2 months HR3012 is been read but still not placed on Calendar. Any idea in future when it will be placed ?


H.R.3012
Latest Title: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011
Sponsor: Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] (introduced 9/22/2011) Cosponsors (11)
Related Bills: H.R.3476, S.1857, S.1866, S.1983
Latest Major Action: 1/23/2012 Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 293.
House Reports: 112-292

[go_guy123]

It's been more than 2 months HR3012 is been read but still not placed on Calendar. Any idea in future when it will be placed ?


H.R.3012
Latest Title: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011
Sponsor: Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] (introduced 9/22/2011) Cosponsors (11)
Related Bills: H.R.3476, S.1857, S.1866, S.1983
Latest Major Action: 1/23/2012 Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 293.
House Reports: 112-292

HR 3012 is almost dead now. Now the focus of the democratic party is Dream act and other amnesty schemes.

[ds37]

I can see ppl are donating, still received amount is constant 0 USD :D:confused:
Try donating yourself and you wiil see it increases. Only those who wate the tree can feel the joy of watching it grow. of course all who come under it will be benefited. it's the generosity of IV and it's Donors.

:)

DS

[bibliophile2020]

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[gchopes2012]

When HR 3012 Bill was introduced , it faced opposition with the misconception that it could increase the Visa numbers and take away the job of Americans , which was made clear lil later
But now Isareli Bill not sure on the Bill number and Irish E3 Bills are making its way though that could add up the numbers anti's who opposed HR 3012 bill on this basis are actualy good with these bills, even though in Reality this could increase the numbers not HR 3012
so i can concluded that politics are at its best here
Obma's statement or promosise on the Jobs Bills that could address the country limit all vanished in thin air , it was not even brought up leave about the adding it as amedment
looks like showing the moon to a kid to make baby eat , but reality is altogether different .......


It was supposed to be the best new years gift
then some one said it will be best valentine's day gift
and then it will be signed by St. Patrick's Day . . .
What next
April Fool's Day . . . .
or more realistic
the July 4th to get liberated . . . .

[go_guy123]

When HR 3012 Bill was introduced , it faced opposition with the misconception that it could increase the Visa numbers and take away the job of Americans , which was made clear lil later
But now Isareli Bill not sure on the Bill number and Irish E3 Bills are making its way though that could add up the numbers anti's who opposed HR 3012 bill on this basis are actualy good with these bills, even though in Reality this could increase the numbers not HR 3012
so i can concluded that politics are at its best here
Obma's statement or promosise on the Jobs Bills that could address the country limit all vanished in thin air , it was not even brought up leave about the adding it as amedment
looks like showing the moon to a kid to make baby eat , but reality is altogether different .......

Israel Bill is a stand alone bill...already passed in Congress. I doubt it will face opposition in Senate....That lobby is very well connected in both the parties. Neither GOP or DNC will hold that up.

[spven]

Surprised to see E2 being refered to committe instead of puting it on calendar. People like FAIR & Numbersusa arent opposing it, atleast openly. As far as 3012, we have 2 days for something to happen. If not,we have to wait out for another 2 weeks for them to come back

[greyhair]

Israel Bill is a stand alone bill...already passed in Congress. I doubt it will face opposition in Senate....That lobby is very well connected in both the parties. Neither GOP or DNC will hold that up.

There is more to the world than just what you may know. I disagree with your earlier post that HR3012 is dead - that is bogus assertion.

For the Israel bill, the Jewish agenda is to get more Jews to Israel, not take Jews out of Israel. Although that bill will pass, but why did it not already pass if it enjoys support from every quarter? Because things take time to happen. The same is applicable to HR3012.

[bibliophile2020]

I agree with you. HR 312 had much better climate when it was introduced in the senate. It was placed on the senate calendar where as E2 Israeli bill was referred to senate subcommitee. Let's wait and see, if Sen. Grassley would put a hold on this bill too!

[Gandhi_II]

As far I know this is not a minor tweak in USCIS process, its a rule created by congress. IV was already working on this, But at this Point, lets all work towards HR. 3012.

Ask yourself, do you want to get Green Card and enJoy FULL FREEDOM , or juz file 485 n njoy partial freedom ?

Given that I won't have the Green Card for a few years due to the retrogression, I'd rather have partial freedom until I have full freedom. Right now, I have NO FREEDOM. IV - please let us know what we can do to petition the USCIS to amend the rule so that I-485s can be filed before the priority date becomes current.

[dts]

This is a self serving meaningless article, could possibly be paid for by Chatwal. Its only goal is to show that Chatwal is "so powerful" that he can get more visas for Indians, which is not going to happen. The real world is far from this myth. Most likely Senator Reid and Schumer went to a fund raiser where other IT shop owners were present. Senators - The wizard of the words - said things in a politically correct language. But Chatwal and others IT shop owners (most not very highly qualified) only heard what they wanted to hear. And ever unreliable PTI, as always filed a false/factually incorrect report with the headlines - "more H1/L1" visas. Fundraisers like Chatwal raise money from IT shop owners on a promise to get something in return. So these people have a need for this misinformation.

Senator Reid and Schumer said more visas for travel. But for these guys there is only 1 kind of visa - H1/L1. Green cards are also visas but how would these guys and reporters at PTI know? IT shop guys don't make money from green cards and Chatwal can't collect money/raise funds for green cards. So they just wanted to hear "more visas" = more H1s/L1s.

Often out of context and pandering Indian print media is unreliable. Senator Reid and Schumer were trying to say that "more Indians can come here to travel" and "wants more Indians coming to America and spending in the economy" and "Mr Reid said he would also like Indians to visit Las Vegas for business". All this means more visitors visas and it makes sense, see below-

US visa norms ease for Indian tourists, students - Times Of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-22/india/31224334_1_visa-application-process-work-visas-visa-norms)

AND - "we are working on a bipartisan bill. Harry Reid is going to try to help us get it passed very fast" probably refers to HR3012.

But PTI/NDTV, possibly pushed by Chatwal, changed the subject and entire meaning of the conversation to wrongly imply "more H1/L1s for Indians", which is not going to happen, understandably for the right reasons.

H1 numbers should not be increased and L1 must to be put to check. I work for Accenture and there are just too many L1s, most of whom are not treated fairly.


"we are working on a bipartisan bill. Harry Reid is going to try to help us get it passed very fast" . It indeed refers HR3012. People in India, press, IT managers includign Senators do not understand each complex immigration terms.
So they always speak in general term 'Visa'.
There is only one bill in Senate which will help India/China and that is H.R.3012.

[bpratap]

Given that I won't have the Green Card for a few years due to the retrogression, I'd rather have partial freedom until I have full freedom. Right now, I have NO FREEDOM. IV - please let us know what we can do to petition the USCIS to amend the rule so that I-485s can be filed before the priority date becomes current.

Please realize the situation in full.

The retrogression may happen only because, there is a country quota in the EB system. and exists only until HR3012 is passed.

As I said earlier, Laws are not made by USCIS, its done by the congress. If it was so easy to get laws changed by signing a petition, it would ve been done long back. Please understand the ground reality.

It took over a year to get a bill written by a law maker and to get presented in the Congress. And this is the ONLY bill related to Immigration of any form , which have a chance to get thru in the current political climate.

When we are at the brink of getting the HR3012 passed, why do we need to divert the energy and effort. Let all put our energy and effort to get HR3012 passed in the Senate ASAP and feel liberated.

[hello]

I don't know when HR 3012 will pass,but I am 100% sure that this bill will pass this year.Its just different combination being tried in Senate so that the bill can pass.So please have faith and just wait,one day we"ll have EB system without any country cap.Be positive and talk positive,it won't cost anything.Good Luck!

[deepakd]

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[psychedelicNerd]

I don't know when HR 3012 will pass,but I am 100% sure that this bill will pass this year.Its just different combination being tried in Senate so that the bill can pass.So please have faith and just wait,one day we"ll have EB system without any country cap.Be positive and talk positive,it won't cost anything.Good Luck!

I agree with you. I think everybody saw a bill sail through with majority and tried to cash on it. We'll just have to wait and see what concoction eventually materializes out of this whole hoopla. Good luck to everybody and hopefully 3012 will pass soon!!!!!

[swarnapuri]

For today!

[thomachan72]

If I donate I will able to see how IV fights for us or where donated money goes?

Even I don't see any update on HR3012/EAD for H4 here. Where as "The OH Law Firm" gives regular update and if I get response to my query from Attorney Oh Mattew.

My husband already donated to IV. If the system is more transparent we can donate more.

Mrs Parna7812, there is no issue with transparancy here. Which state do you belong to. There is always a local IV chapter that you could join and volunteer or gather info from fellow IVeans. It is always a better practice on the part of members who request more clarity from others to also provide more info about themselves and to connect with others. Please contact your nearest local IV chapter and join our fight. IV is not limited to this website which mostly is composed of communications between people using "user IDs" and not real names. Ofcourse the communications in 98% cases are genuine but occasionally some miscreants also enter posing as those interested in our cause just for the purpose of gathering info which unfortunately IV is not willing to allow at the moment.

[gumpena]

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[hello]

If I donate I will able to see how IV fights for us or where donated money goes?

Even I don't see any update on HR3012/EAD for H4 here. Where as "The OH Law Firm" gives regular update and if I get response to my query from Attorney Oh Mattew.

My husband already donated to IV. If the system is more transparent we can donate more.This is not a law firm and IV doesn't want unwanted traffic,they are just helping us for our cause.If you don't have faith then you should just stay home and wait.What would you do with updates?Does that make any difference to you?

[GC_wait_weary]

If I donate I will able to see how IV fights for us or where donated money goes?

Even I don't see any update on HR3012/EAD for H4 here. Where as "The OH Law Firm" gives regular update and if I get response to my query from Attorney Oh Mattew.

My husband already donated to IV. If the system is more transparent we can donate more.

I don't get it... what makes you think "The OH Law Firm" has the right update.

[amulchandra]

I have right to justified where my donation money goes. I am not a blind follower of any body. HR3012 or EAD for H4 would make much more difference to me than you if you would be on H4 visa. I am working since 2001 after my graduation from Jadavpur University.

Parna. Calm down. I have been in your shoes 5 years back and I understand how frustrating it will be to sit at home just because of lack of work status. But let me tell you that how IV works is little different from other organizations. Please note that I also donated money. I believe that they are doing their best and cannot reveal anything now on an open website.
Just think like this. No one ever knew there existed a bill called HR 3012 until IV announced it and it passed in the house. But there was months of efforts to reach that stage. They did not give updates then and I do not believe they will give any updates now unless something really concrete is going to materialize in the senate. Patience please and we have time till the end of the year. Put yourself in the shoes of the people from IV working behind the scenes and have to put up with all this lack of trust. They need encouragement and support too.

[gk_2000]

If I donate I will able to see how IV fights for us or where donated money goes?

Even I don't see any update on HR3012/EAD for H4 here. Where as "The OH Law Firm" gives regular update and if I get response to my query from Attorney Oh Mattew.

My husband already donated to IV. If the system is more transparent we can donate more.

I used to have similar questions as a newbie. However, after following the posts for a number of months and learning about advocacy, etc I decided to become a donor. It was worth it.

Secrecy is important sometimes, especially at critical points. Did you know IV was instrumental in getting 3012 this far? And did you know they were behind the "flower campaign" during the July fiasco? and did you know they had a role in multiple-year EAD rule?

USCIS/DOS are also recognizing IV and IV is becoming like the contact point between us and the govt..

Does this help you to decide?

[skrish]

parna,

I am trying to find out the status of the H4 EAD proposal too. Per the below link, the NPR period should have ended in the beginning of march but nothing has been heard of it since then:

View Rule (http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201104&RIN=1615-AB92)

If you or anyone in this forum knows something about it, please post it here or PM me.


Thanks

[Greentown]

How about this , when you feel like getting some/any kind of updates read oh law. When you feel like you have to do some thing to get results, do some action items / donate on IV. Just deal with 2 sites, one for fun and one for action. :-)

[gk_2000]

How about this , when you feel like getting some/any kind of updates read oh law. When you feel like you have to do some thing to get results, do some action items / donate on IV. Just deal with 2 sites, one for fun and one for action. :-)

Ya, every game needs players on the fields and Ravi Shastris in the yakky box

[Rb_newsletter]

If I donate I will able to see how IV fights for us or where donated money goes?

Even I don't see any update on HR3012/EAD for H4 here. Where as "The OH Law Firm" gives regular update and if I get response to my query from Attorney Oh Mattew.

My husband already donated to IV. If the system is more transparent we can donate more.

parna7812,

How about this. You can join IV core, start volunteering and then you give updates to others.
This way entire system will be completely transparent to you.

[bibliophile2020]

Common give her a break! Why are you guys chastising her for asking some updates? Comments like this will demoralise the members and turn them away from the mission. If you are so concerned you can send her a private message.

[gk_2000]

Common give her a break! Why are you guys chastising her for asking some updates? Comments like this will demoralise the members and turn them away from the mission. If you are so concerned you can send her a private message.

Just thot it is better than giving red-green

[bibliophile2020]

Done AI!
Dear bibliophile2020,

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Contribution date: 03-28-12, 09:23
Contribution amount: USD 100

We are very grateful for your support in building a stronger community.

Thanks again!

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[niklshah]

Late-Breaking News: DOS Confirms Lack of Enough EB2 India / China Visa Numbers
Posted 29.Mar.2012

The Department of State (DOS) provided the Murthy Law Firm with confirmation today that, effective March 23, 2012, the EB2 cutoff date has been retrogressed internally to August 15, 2007. This means that the USCIS will not be able to approve further EB2 I-485 cases with priority dates that fall on or after August 15, 2007 at this time. Theses cases can be processed, but not approved, without visa numbers available.

Filing in April Expected to Continue

The April Visa Bulletin reflects an EB2 cutoff date of May 1, 2010. This cutoff date applies to I-485 application filings. Based upon the events of the summer of 2007, when the DOS unsuccessfully attempted to modify the Visa Bulletin after issuance, it is our current understanding that cases will be accepted for filing under the April Visa Bulletin. What has changed is that there are simply not enough visa numbers left to allow for the approval of EB2 India / China cases with priority dates that are on or after August 15, 2007. Thus, EB2 I-485 cases, which have been filed or which will be filed in April 2012, will have to wait for approval until additional visa numbers become available. We will continue to provide information on this key issue for MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers.

[GC_wait_weary]

Common give her a break! Why are you guys chastising her for asking some updates? Comments like this will demoralise the members and turn them away from the mission. If you are so concerned you can send her a private message.

I agree.. should try to educate.

Some one pointed out that there local state chapter. think is good way to get updates and also be productive volunteer...

[pappu]

.....



One cannot get any updates by spreading conspiracy theories, smear posts or false information here or elsewhere. One that is not from the most retrogressed countries will not understand the suffering due to the discriminatory law that needs to be changed. Those that are in eb3 specifically and waiting for almost a decade now go through this pain every day in their professional and personal lives. We question why this unfair treatment based on country of birth when country of birth has nothing to do with job we do. We got the job and retain the job for our skills. Good try though trying to get updates :D

Those who have been Long term contributors to IV and volunteering every day sincerely know the updates and how IV works. We salute such committed IV members and such people have helped IV get so many successes since last 6 years.

[bibliophile2020]

Done AI!
Even Mathew Oh is not giving any updates any more.

[starscream]

Yea - as the new H1 season is starting Mathew "Breaking News" Oh website has shifted focus to H1b for now - one of the latest post has to do with some procedure about receipt acknowledgements , lottery process in case H1B cap is reached within a week i.e attempt to get traffic and more customers for H1b by focussing on cap beng reached within a week.
(last year cap was reached in Nov , it surely won't be filled within a week this year)-

Done AI!
Even Mathew Oh is not giving any updates any more.

[vsrinir]

AI Done Today

[greyhair]

Done AI!
Even Mathew Oh is not giving any updates any more.

Those updates don't mean a squat. Its all cooked up "opinion" of someone's imagination, a lot lot different from reality. I used to follow his updates for a few years and then realized that his "updates" are just his interpretation/opinion based on available news reports.

People who like it the easy way, who don't want to engage, they are not in the know. So they have to look at these bogus, cooked up so called "updates".

It won't hurt a fly if he doesn't give any more "updates".

[Gandhi_II]

I did a Google search on immigration and slavery and it returned this site:

Fight Slavery Now! (http://fightslaverynow.org/)

They even talk to the abuses against H-1B workers.

[dts]

Parna. Calm down. I have been in your shoes 5 years back and I understand how frustrating it will be to sit at home just because of lack of work status. But let me tell you that how IV works is little different from other organizations. Please note that I also donated money. I believe that they are doing their best and cannot reveal anything now on an open website.
Just think like this. No one ever knew there existed a bill called HR 3012 until IV announced it and it passed in the house. But there was months of efforts to reach that stage. They did not give updates then and I do not believe they will give any updates now unless something really concrete is going to materialize in the senate. Patience please and we have time till the end of the year. Put yourself in the shoes of the people from IV working behind the scenes and have to put up with all this lack of trust. They need encouragement and support too.

Yes, Agree. friends. Be patient. Also if someone asked status or commented out of frustration, please do not let them down here or too much criticize.
Its ok. We can not affrod fight at this moment. Keep momentum and enthusiasm up.
I am sure H.R.3012 is up and definitely come out with positive result.

[greyhair]

I did a Google search on immigration and slavery and it returned this site:

Fight Slavery Now! (http://fightslaverynow.org/)

They even talk to the abuses against H-1B workers.

I'm on H1B but I'm not a slave. There are protections built into the law. Its your fault if you don't want to find out the law and ways to protect yourself.

H1B is not slavery. If you are on H1 and you feel like being mistreated, you have the option to leave. Slaves can't leave or go anywhere.

Anti-immigrants use this rhetoric to paint everyone with the same color. Like any other system, there are laws on the books to protect everyone, including those on H1. There is no perfect system. Its possible that a small percentage of people on H1 are exploited/taken advantage of. Two things:
(1.) Exploited/taken advantage doesn't amounts to slavery.
(2.) You and I probably don't have any idea what is slavery like.

Anti-immigrants use this argument that just because there are a few bad apples (employers) in the system and a few people do get exploited, so the system is all screwed up and the only way to clean-up is to deport all immigrants, legal and illegal, to wipe out and have a clean slate. Using these extreme examples, anti-immigrants argue for abolishing H1,L1,Eb1,Eb2 & Eb3.

Personally, I find it funny when someone creates a petition to attack a category or a practice saying Eb1c, or, Eb3 to Eb2 porting, or, abolish Eb3 category etc. Anti-immigrants have a field day with such petitions/ideas because they use these one-off petitions to argue abolishing every/all types of immigrants.

So when you compare H1 to slavery, you are feeding into the agenda of anti-immigrants, and not your agenda, unless you are an anti-immigrant, which is possible. If you are anti-immigrant then let me tell you that there are already laws on the books to protect all types of immigrants including H1, L1, legal and illegal immigrants against slavery. If you are implying that I'm a slave because I'm on H1, then it is totally untrue.

[greyhair]

Yes, Agree. friends. Be patient. Also if someone asked status or commented out of frustration, please do not let them down here or too much criticize.
Its ok. We can not affrod fight at this moment. Keep momentum and enthusiasm up.
I am sure H.R.3012 is up and definitely come out with positive result.

Exactly. We cannot afford to fight. So the real question is, what is the intention of the person asking questions. We can all read between the lines. If the intention of asking questions is to cause disruption or to make a group look bad or throw water over the effort, I would suggest ignoring and not answering.

Its not difficult to make out if someone is making a genuine effort to ask questions or if someone is pouring cold water.

Because we cannot afford to fight, just ignore or ban user wanting to cause disruption. I am ok with that.

[chandubaba]

One USA voice to all

Immigration - Residential POV - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVVHotSNR8g&feature=player_embedded#)!

Fix it.

[Gandhi_II]

I'm on H1B but I'm not a slave. There are protections built into the law. Its your fault if you don't want to find out the law and ways to protect yourself.



Perhaps you can help me understand how I can get out of my predicament, friend. I feel that I have grown professionally with my current employer and want to move on because there are no more growth opportunities here. But I am not current and with this retrogression, will not be for a long time. I am stuck with this employer. Because I am in the "process", I am also less likely to receive a pay raise anytime soon. Pretty close to slavery don't you think? Yes, we can leave, but if we leave the employer, we have to leave the country. Easier said than done for someone who has been in this country since 1997 and built a network of friends and professional connections here. I, like many of you, consider this country home, but do not have the freedom of working where I want to work, living where I want to live, and earning what I am capable of earning.

[bibliophile2020]

I can feel the pain. Even though we are at liberty to leave the employer and do whatever we want with our lives, in practice it is easier said than done.

[GC_wait_weary]

The law is designed that way; it reducing employees job mobility.
A simple fix of separating the H1B and employer but still requiring employer to prove that they couldn't find a suitable citizen/permanent resident would go a long way in improving the situation. Also if an individual is here in country working for six years with consistently above the minimum salary should mean something and should be part of GC process. In other words GC process should tied to employee and not to employer.

my 2 cents.

[ronhira]

The law is designed that way; it reducing employees job mobility.
A simple fix of separating the H1B and employer but still requiring employer to prove that they couldn't find a suitable citizen/permanent resident would go a long way in improving the situation. Also if an individual is here in country working for six years with consistently above the minimum salary should mean something and should be part of GC process. In other words GC process should tied to employee and not to employer.

my 2 cents.

simple fix?????? really..... then y did u not change it already if it is so simple?

like the rest of us..... u just want the law to change so that it will benefit your individual situation..... let me make a guess..... u've been on visa for over 6 years......

y do we all keep suggesting a specific change that will exactly fit into a specific situation..... more than half of all immigration forms are full of such narrow minded ideas, which fits into individual situation....

who will agree with your new bar of "minimum salary for 6 years"? and who will agree with your idea of "gc process should tied to employee and not to employer"? will any member of congress agree with you? did you already speak with anyone?

if others cannot or will not agree with it then its not an idea..... its just waste of space...... it is not as simple as it sounds.....

[GC_wait_weary]

simple fix?????? really..... then y did u not change it already if it is so simple?

like the rest of us..... u just want the law to change so that it will benefit your individual situation..... let me make a guess..... u've been on visa for over 6 years......

y do we all keep suggesting a specific change that will exactly fit into a specific situation..... more than half of all immigration forms are full of such narrow minded ideas, which fits into individual situation....

who will agree with your new bar of "minimum salary for 6 years"? and who will agree with your idea of "gc process should tied to employee and not to employer"? will any member of congress agree with you? did you already speak with anyone?

if others cannot or will not agree with it then its not an idea..... its just waste of space...... it is not as simple as it sounds.....

You are mixing up two different things.... "Fix" and "legislative process" I was describing the Fix and not legislative process. There is nothing simple when majority of one group of 435 people and 100 % of another 100 group of people have to agree and not to mention signature of another super powerful man.
The "fix" I described is just not for a specific situation. Almost 100% of the beneficiaries of H1B visa (including those who don't aspire to apply for GC and those who aspire to apply for GC) would agree with such a fix. Many of employee abuse can be traced back to the fact the employee is tied to an employer. And the govt is partly responsible for delay and in my opinion an accomplice to certain degree. Now H.R 3012 would be in the direction of reducing the delay and hence the abuse and not to mention fairness in the unfair employment immigration system. Now if you look at HR 3012 it actually simplifies the law and its implementation; however the legislative process has not been simple by any stretch of imagination.

Anyways lets not get side tracked by discussion that is not going to get us anywhere. Lets bring the focus back to HR3012.

[bibliophile2020]

Done AI!
Let's keep buggin the senators even in recess!

[gchopes2012]

totally agree, moment some one asks for update , they are being pondered , why are we concluding that every member who asks for updates is anti or from row group
Its just sometimes curiosity and as few months as passed and may be more people who were not aware of IV are visiting and trying to get updates
why can not people who are in for HR 3012 ask for updates
while anti group are growing numbers, we are driving away people by jumping at them and concluding that they anti's ,moment any questions or updates are posed
we never now even the newbie may be of great help , just like though we have fight for Independence from Britishers was going before Gandhi arrived , it was Gandhi was brought us independence though joined in between , its the fact whether we agree or support it or not
Its really news to me that even senior forum members do reply back negatively .....
no wonder why its being quite lately
Simple approach could be not answer or ignore rather than driving away , what if its happens to be pro HR 3012 ,we not only lose a member , but also circle it can bring in





Common give her a break! Why are you guys chastising her for asking some updates? Comments like this will demoralise the members and turn them away from the mission. If you are so concerned you can send her a private message.

[dhakaldoo]

Coulldnt agree more!
Every body has a right to ask questions. Its upon IV core whether they want to answer it or not.
The people who reply negatively should mind their own business and let Admin / core handle it!
We dont need another forum!!!


totally agree, moment some one asks for update , they are being pondered , why are we concluding that every member who asks for updates is anti or from row group
Its just sometimes curiosity and as few months as passed and may be more people who were not aware of IV are visiting and trying to get updates
why can not people who are in for HR 3012 ask for updates
while anti group are growing numbers, we are driving away people by jumping at them and concluding that they anti's ,moment any questions or updates are posed
we never now even the newbie may be of great help , just like though we have fight for Independence from Britishers was going before Gandhi arrived , it was Gandhi was brought us independence though joined in between , its the fact whether we agree or support it or not
Its really news to me that even senior forum members do reply back negatively .....
no wonder why its being quite lately
Simple approach could be not answer or ignore rather than driving away , what if its happens to be pro HR 3012 ,we not only lose a member , but also circle it can bring in

[bibliophile2020]

THIS IS THE UPDATE FROM IV WHEN HR 3012 CAME FOR VOTE IN THE HOUSE
I've received call from Aman this evening and I would like to share an update on H.R. 3012. He has received this update in DC just this evening.We are very pleased to share that as a result of years of your work and active participation for creating awareness on the Capitol Hill our bill H.R. 3012 is scheduled for a vote in the House at around 6:30pm on Tuesday 29th November. As a testimony of your sincere work over the years, we are expecting over 90% or more votes in favor of H.R. 3012. After that it will be taken up in the Senate in December.
This will bring us one more step closer to making H.R. 3012 the law of the land, the law that ends the per-country discrimination in high-skills immigration.

UNTILL THEN, LET'S KEEP THE HOPE. HOPE IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S STRONGER THAN FEAR. IV IS THE ONLY ORGANIZATION/ ENTITY THAT REPRESENTS HIGHLY SKILLED LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THIS IS OUR BEST BET. LET'S HAVE NO DOUBTS ABOUT IT.

[lp2007]

YouTube - I'm Just a Bill (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H-eYBZFEzf8)

Hope our bill will be law soon.

[pappu]

Update:
There has been lot of false information and theories being circulated on the internet and we are posting to quell all those because none are correct and have any idea what is really going on. Please stop paying attention to such false information. A lot of antis are also spreading false information and discouraging people from getting actively involved. It is in our interest to stay on course in these important times. The bill is in a good place. Negotiations take time and it is a tiring process. Just because you do not see anything does not mean nothing is going on. It took 1 year of hectic work in the house to bring the bill late last year in the House. Majority of the people only have seen bill news starting to show up a few weeks before it was passed and do not know what went before it was introduced. Just getting a bill written is a big effort and achievement for all of us. Then getting is introduced and taken up is a big challenge. Advocating to getting it passed with a big majority vote was a next to impossible task. And all of us in Immigration voice got it done through our continued support. We were not posting updates on the bill for the entire year while working on the bill. Likewise we will not be posting updates to satisfy curiosity of few people who do not fully understand the political advocacy process or to satisfy the curiosity of antis who will use the information to work against the bill.

What can each one of us do: These are testing times of our patience and persistence. The one that is most patient and persistence always wins. One cannot continue to make such effort each single day without continued support of the community. We are in IV core working harder than it was when the bill was publicly voted. Behind the scene work is a lot of work each day and requires lot of strategy, smart thinking and maturity.In order for us to continue this effort we need each one of us to pitch in and contribute for us to continue this effort with more intensity. More resources mean more advocacy and thus can expect quicker results. Signing up for monthly contributions is most important so that we can come out as winners and lack of resources do not become an impediment to investing in advocacy work. This post is to urge each one of us not to lose hope because we have not. We only ask for your support so that this motivation gives us the much needed boost in our work ahead. Once you have finished this action item, please add in your signature or post on the thread with subscription number to show support and motivate others. This action item is very critical for our success and is urgent.

Thank you
IV Team

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[amulchandra]

Update:
There has been lot of false information and theories being circulated on the internet and we are posting to quell all those because none are correct and have any idea what is really going on. Please stop paying attention to such false information. A lot of antis are also spreading false information and discouraging people from getting actively involved. It is in our interest to stay on course in these important times. The bill is in a good place.

Thank you very much Pappu. Hope this re-energizes everyone here.

Amul

[gcnov2002]

Monthly Subscription Payment $100 Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 30T13679AC069494N) on 3rd April.

$1000 so far to HR3012..

[thomachan72]

Appreciate the post Pappu. Lets fight for this friends. Pls keep contributing and supporting.

[bibliophile2020]

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[dts]

Update:
There has been lot of false information and theories being circulated on the internet and we are posting to quell all those because none are correct and have any idea what is really going on. Please stop paying attention to such false information. A lot of antis are also spreading false information and discouraging people from getting actively involved. It is in our interest to stay on course in these important times. The bill is in a good place. Negotiations take time and it is a tiring process. Just because you do not see anything does not mean nothing is going on. It took 1 year of hectic work in the house to bring the bill late last year in the House. Majority of the people only have seen bill news starting to show up a few weeks before it was passed and do not know what went before it was introduced. Just getting a bill written is a big effort and achievement for all of us. Then getting is introduced and taken up is a big challenge. Advocating to getting it passed with a big majority vote was a next to impossible task. And all of us in Immigration voice got it done through our continued support. We were not posting updates on the bill for the entire year while working on the bill. Likewise we will not be posting updates to satisfy curiosity of few people who do not fully understand the political advocacy process or to satisfy the curiosity of antis who will use the information to work against the bill.

What can each one of us do: These are testing times of our patience and persistence. The one that is most patient and persistence always wins. One cannot continue to make such effort each single day without continued support of the community. We are in IV core working harder than it was when the bill was publicly voted. Behind the scene work is a lot of work each day and requires lot of strategy, smart thinking and maturity.In order for us to continue this effort we need each one of us to pitch in and contribute for us to continue this effort with more intensity. More resources mean more advocacy and thus can expect quicker results. Signing up for monthly contributions is most important so that we can come out as winners and lack of resources do not become an impediment to investing in advocacy work. This post is to urge each one of us not to lose hope because we have not. We only ask for your support so that this motivation gives us the much needed boost in our work ahead. Once you have finished this action item, please add in your signature or post on the thread with subscription number to show support and motivate others. This action item is very critical for our success and is urgent.

Thank you
IV Team

Friends,
Whoever got frustrated, disppointed or defeated,, Here are updates.
Bill is in good place, lots of efforts are going on..
Lift your inner power of faith and victory with help of god.
Spread words.. Get more people involved on this.

Although I am very positive and have complete faith on IV admin, want to ask polite question:
Should we start flower compaign during Senate recess? In 15 days without mocking or teasing Senators, we can make very polite request to pass this in Senate.
Rest assure,We will not do anything until IV admin approves.
Simple 'Y' or 'N' from IV Admin without any justification will be suffice for us.

[dts]

Update:
There has been lot of false information and theories being circulated on the internet and we are posting to quell all those because none are correct and have any idea what is really going on. Please stop paying attention to such false information. A lot of antis are also spreading false information and discouraging people from getting actively involved. It is in our interest to stay on course in these important times. The bill is in a good place. Negotiations take time and it is a tiring process. Just because you do not see anything does not mean nothing is going on. It took 1 year of hectic work in the house to bring the bill late last year in the House. Majority of the people only have seen bill news starting to show up a few weeks before it was passed and do not know what went before it was introduced. Just getting a bill written is a big effort and achievement for all of us. Then getting is introduced and taken up is a big challenge. Advocating to getting it passed with a big majority vote was a next to impossible task. And all of us in Immigration voice got it done through our continued support. We were not posting updates on the bill for the entire year while working on the bill. Likewise we will not be posting updates to satisfy curiosity of few people who do not fully understand the political advocacy process or to satisfy the curiosity of antis who will use the information to work against the bill.

What can each one of us do: These are testing times of our patience and persistence. The one that is most patient and persistence always wins. One cannot continue to make such effort each single day without continued support of the community. We are in IV core working harder than it was when the bill was publicly voted. Behind the scene work is a lot of work each day and requires lot of strategy, smart thinking and maturity.In order for us to continue this effort we need each one of us to pitch in and contribute for us to continue this effort with more intensity. More resources mean more advocacy and thus can expect quicker results. Signing up for monthly contributions is most important so that we can come out as winners and lack of resources do not become an impediment to investing in advocacy work. This post is to urge each one of us not to lose hope because we have not. We only ask for your support so that this motivation gives us the much needed boost in our work ahead. Once you have finished this action item, please add in your signature or post on the thread with subscription number to show support and motivate others. This action item is very critical for our success and is urgent.

Thank you
IV Team

Friends,
Whoever got frustrated, disppointed or defeated,, Here are updates.
Bill is in good place, lots of efforts are going on..
Lift your inner power of faith and victory with help of god.
Spread words.. Get more people involved on this.

Although I am very positive and have complete faith on IV admin, want to ask polite question:
Should we start flower compaign during Senate recess? In 15 days without mocking or teasing Senators, we can make very polite request to pass this in Senate.
Rest assure,We will not do anything until IV admin approves.
Simple 'Y' or 'N' from IV Admin without any justification will be suffice for us.

[dts]

Update:
There has been lot of false information and theories being circulated on the internet and we are posting to quell all those because none are correct and have any idea what is really going on. Please stop paying attention to such false information. A lot of antis are also spreading false information and discouraging people from getting actively involved. It is in our interest to stay on course in these important times. The bill is in a good place. Negotiations take time and it is a tiring process. Just because you do not see anything does not mean nothing is going on. It took 1 year of hectic work in the house to bring the bill late last year in the House. Majority of the people only have seen bill news starting to show up a few weeks before it was passed and do not know what went before it was introduced. Just getting a bill written is a big effort and achievement for all of us. Then getting is introduced and taken up is a big challenge. Advocating to getting it passed with a big majority vote was a next to impossible task. And all of us in Immigration voice got it done through our continued support. We were not posting updates on the bill for the entire year while working on the bill. Likewise we will not be posting updates to satisfy curiosity of few people who do not fully understand the political advocacy process or to satisfy the curiosity of antis who will use the information to work against the bill.

What can each one of us do: These are testing times of our patience and persistence. The one that is most patient and persistence always wins. One cannot continue to make such effort each single day without continued support of the community. We are in IV core working harder than it was when the bill was publicly voted. Behind the scene work is a lot of work each day and requires lot of strategy, smart thinking and maturity.In order for us to continue this effort we need each one of us to pitch in and contribute for us to continue this effort with more intensity. More resources mean more advocacy and thus can expect quicker results. Signing up for monthly contributions is most important so that we can come out as winners and lack of resources do not become an impediment to investing in advocacy work. This post is to urge each one of us not to lose hope because we have not. We only ask for your support so that this motivation gives us the much needed boost in our work ahead. Once you have finished this action item, please add in your signature or post on the thread with subscription number to show support and motivate others. This action item is very critical for our success and is urgent.

Thank you
IV Team

Friends,
Whoever got frustrated, disappointed or defeated,, Here are updates.
Bill is in good place, lots of efforts are going on..
Lift your inner power of faith and victory with help of god.
Spread words.. Get more people involved on this.

Although I am very positive and have complete faith on IV admin, want to ask polite question:
Should we start flower compaign during Senate recess? In 15 days without mocking or teasing Senators, we can make very polite request to pass this in Senate.
Rest assure,We will not do anything until IV admin approves.
Simple 'Y' or 'N' from IV Admin without any justification will be suffice for us.

[iamgsprabhu]

How do I make Recurring Contribution with my credit card ?

It always take me to do it via the paypal, I have suspended my paypal account as I donot trust them anymore.

Please tell me how I can make recurring contribution using my credit card.

thanks
-Prabhu

[dts]

Friends,
Whoever got frustrated, disappointed or defeated,, Here are updates.
Bill is in good place, lots of efforts are going on..
Lift your inner power of faith and victory with help of god.
Spread words.. Get more people involved on this.

Although I am very positive and have complete faith on IV admin, want to ask polite question:
Should we start flower compaign during Senate recess? In 15 days without mocking or teasing Senators, we can make very polite request to pass this in Senate.
Rest assure,We will not do anything until IV admin approves.
Simple 'Y' or 'N' from IV Admin without any justification will be suffice for us.

Sorry, folks,
My post got multiple times because I got some browser errro and hit multiple times 'Submit'.
Ignore my repeated posts

[thomachan72]

How do I make Recurring Contribution with my credit card ?

It always take me to do it via the paypal, I have suspended my paypal account as I donot trust them anymore.

Please tell me how I can make recurring contribution using my credit card.

thanks
-Prabhu

Somebody please advise on this. I use the paypal so dont know about recurring contribution directly with credit card. By the way paypal is pretty safe. Did you have any specific issues with them?

[pappu]

How do I make Recurring Contribution with my credit card ?

It always take me to do it via the paypal, I have suspended my paypal account as I donot trust them anymore.

Please tell me how I can make recurring contribution using my credit card.

thanks
-Prabhu

You do not need PayPal account to contribute. On the PayPal page just enter your credit card number and PayPal will take it.

Another method is to pay by check. You can write a check and mail it to IV address. But we prefer monthly recurring. It helps us estimate budget ahead of time .

[pappu]

Signed up for recurring contributions:
Paypal Subscription# S-9R163713CM6988400

Thank you very much.

[pappu]

Friends,
Whoever got frustrated, disappointed or defeated,, Here are updates.
Bill is in good place, lots of efforts are going on..
Lift your inner power of faith and victory with help of god.
Spread words.. Get more people involved on this.

Although I am very positive and have complete faith on IV admin, want to ask polite question:
Should we start flower compaign during Senate recess? In 15 days without mocking or teasing Senators, we can make very polite request to pass this in Senate.
Rest assure,We will not do anything until IV admin approves.
Simple 'Y' or 'N' from IV Admin without any justification will be suffice for us.

No. We have to be very careful in every step. Lobbying and more lobbying is what we need.

[iamgsprabhu]

You do not need PayPal account to contribute. On the PayPal page just enter your credit card number and PayPal will take it.

Another method is to pay by check. You can write a check and mail it to IV address. But we prefer monthly recurring. It helps us estimate budget ahead of time .

Thanks Pappu,

Done Recurring payment without paypal.

-Prabhu

[vsrinir]

Done AI Today

[gten]

for what its worth...
Microsoft Presses: More Green Cards For India IT - Windows - Microsoft news - Informationweek (http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/microsoft_news/232800248)

[thomachan72]

for what its worth...
Microsoft Presses: More Green Cards For India IT - Windows - Microsoft news - Informationweek (http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/microsoft_news/232800248)

Very good article. Thx for sharing

[np5337]

for what its worth...
Microsoft Presses: More Green Cards For India IT - Windows - Microsoft news - Informationweek (http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/microsoft_news/232800248)

Nice article...That will help lots of people here...

[Chandini]

Guys,

Do write good (positive ) comments on this blog.

Microsoft Presses: More Green Cards For India IT - Windows - Microsoft news - Information week.

[syedajmal]

After Jobs Act, Steve Case turns focus to immigration

After Jobs Act, Case turns focus to immigration | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/05/us-usa-jobs-case-idUSBRE83413U20120405)

[giri26]

After Jobs Act, Steve Case turns focus to immigration

After Jobs Act, Case turns focus to immigration | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/05/us-usa-jobs-case-idUSBRE83413U20120405)

It seems like too much talk and less work. We have been reading one or the other news about this bill almost everyday. I guess it is better to ignore these article and wait for IV's updates. It seems like EB3 people cannot get a break in this country.

[senram]

It depends on how much improvement you expect.
There is a fundamental issue in EB3 mainly for Indians. The solution is tricky for Indians.If you see no of H1b applicants every year is well above 100k if you include cap exempt also. If you include L1 and others It could be 200k. Half of them could apply green card. If you include dependents the total gc applicants are more than double of the gc quota of 140k. Currently 60% of H1b and 80% of L1 are Indians and that percentage is increasing. So things could become worse in coming years. Removing country quota could improve some extent as the current wait time for Row is already more than 5 years. When they remove country quota it will be 7 years for everyone and that will increase every year. Eb2 will be in much better shape. Waiting time could be 1 year for everyone or less.
But if hr3012 is not passed then waiting time will be 12 years in 2013. So 7 years waiting time will be better than 12 years.
There is a stronger lobby to increase H1b quota when they try to increase green card numbers. So in any case chances are very less for a very big improvement in EB3 unless recapture or STEM bill.
It seems like too much talk and less work. We have been reading one or the other news about this bill almost everyday. I guess it is better to ignore these article and wait for IV's updates. It seems like EB3 people cannot get a break in this country.

[ronhira]

It depends on how much improvement you expect.
There is a fundamental issue in EB3 mainly for Indians. The solution is tricky for Indians.If you see no of H1b applicants every year is well above 100k if you include cap exempt also. If you include L1 and others It could be 200k. Half of them could apply green card. If you include dependents the total gc applicants are more than double of the gc quota of 140k. Currently 60% of H1b and 80% of L1 are Indians and that percentage is increasing. So things could become worse in coming years. Removing country quota could improve some extent as the current wait time for Row is already more than 5 years. When they remove country quota it will be 7 years for everyone and that will increase every year. Eb2 will be in much better shape. Waiting time could be 1 year for everyone or less.
But if hr3012 is not passed then waiting time will be 12 years in 2013. So 7 years waiting time will be better than 12 years.
There is a stronger lobby to increase H1b quota when they try to increase green card numbers. So in any case chances are very less for a very big improvement in EB3 unless recapture or STEM bill.

while you are at this, why not also mention the reason for so many people coming from india?

2/3rd of india's population is below the age of 35 years i.e. over 700 million people born after 1975.....

look at it this way -

* the entire continent of europe, has 700 million people of every age group.....

OR

* if u leave out china, india, europe, and usa - the rest of the world doesn't have 700 million below the retirement age of 60 years.....

so the rest of the world has smaller number of potential employees as compared to young population below the age of 35 years.......

ignorant jerks in this other group keeps calling it "fraud"..... probably someone needs to show them basic maths & how to add/count....

[manchala]

Sent letters to the white house using action items. It costed me 9$ only...

[spulugur]

contributed $100 for this effort. Confirmation number:9BS16646EC755102G .

[sanhari]

H.R.3012 Petition via Email and Printed letters to congress

If you haven't done it yet, please do, I do see already more 29000 petitions sent (via email or printed letters). I just ordered both for just $9, I hope it's a worthy investment, anything for HR3012 to pass the hurdles.

"Let's see if we can all help IV with moving HR3012 in a positive direction. Sign the petition at Please Vote 'Yes' on HR3012 | Petition2Congress "

Link is "petition2congress.com/5686/please-vote-yes-on-fairness-high-skilled-immigrants-act/"

[spulugur]

Also ordered printed petitions to be mailed to Senators, President.

[dipdowndust]

Ordered printed letters, costs only 9$. Go IV !!!

[kopguy]

I had sent petitions by emails now ordered a print version hoping for greater impact.

[jhegde]

Amount: $ 9.00
Transaction ID: 28939
Date/Time: 04/10/2012 07:09:41 PM

[gk_2000]

Amount: $ 9.00
Transaction ID: 28939
Date/Time: 04/10/2012 07:09:41 PM

Ya guys, me too ..

[Rb_newsletter]

H.R.3012 Petition via Email and Printed letters to congress

If you haven't done it yet, please do, I do see already more 29000 petitions sent (via email or printed letters). I just ordered both for just $9, I hope it's a worthy investment, anything for HR3012 to pass the hurdles.

"Let's see if we can all help IV with moving HR3012 in a positive direction. Sign the petition at Please Vote 'Yes' on HR3012 | Petition2Congress "

Link is "petition2congress.com/5686/please-vote-yes-on-fairness-high-skilled-immigrants-act/"

IV-core,
Should we do this petition2congress.com email/print mails?

[bibliophile2020]

I did it any ways. Whatever that works remotely to help "OUR BILL"
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 3F24699892005790E

[Kugr]

Ordered printed letters to be sent to Senators just now! Only costs $9.

[dipdowndust]

It seems like too much talk and less work. We have been reading one or the other news about this bill almost everyday. I guess it is better to ignore these article and wait for IV's updates. It seems like EB3 people cannot get a break in this country.

EB3 has very little hope and even with HR 3012 there will still be some wait and most probably it will only help people having priority date before 2006 since ROW is at that date. But HR 3012 should decrease wait and bring more realistic wait rather then 20-30 yrs which is totally unreasonable. I would say EB3 people having enough experience should try to go to EB2, its not straight forward easy change but not impossible.

[pappu]

The DHS had announced in Jan 2012 the rule making for the following:

"Allowing Certain H-4 Dependent Spouses to Apply for Employment Authorization"

There are a lot of people with I-140 approved but waiting in the backlog for more than 6 years. Unfortunately, as a result their spouses also suffer and cannot work. They are forced to stay at home.

This is a rule making and not a bill. This can be a small victory and provide relief for lot of EB3 category applicants!.

IV, Can anybody help to bring this to DHS/USCIS attention? HR 3012 will be a big win, but this one will also provide a lot of relief both mentally and financially. We have attempted several emails/phones but no positive response from the ]
Please do not spam the officialsl. And what was the purpose of posting the contact in the post. It will create more spam. Spamming is not appreciated. This is not how things work. It will only harm your own cause. Wish rules and bills can get passed via sending emails and phone or online petitions.
But it is not so. It all needs a lot of advocacy. And advocacy needs everyne to spend lot if their personal time and resources. Please start by supporting IV in our efforts. This issue has already been on IV agenda. But we have to work smartly and see what is best and how to work at different times. By saying h4 spouses are suffering , forced to stay at home by not being allowed to work in your communication, you have damaged your own cause with the officials. Such kind of misguided communications must be avoided. Why will us government help this issue only because h4 is not allowed to work or wants to go through the market test of h1 visa? Especially when unemployment is high and there is pressure to make rules strict? Your communication should have been on how allowing h4 will benefit the country. And not just benefit you as an individual.

Please get active in IV. You will learn a lot about advocating . Support us by subscribing to monthly contributions so that we can work together to get relief. Attend our events when asked, volunteer and help get more people involved. Strength is in numbers and if we have good support no relief is impossible.

[bibliophile2020]

I am not sure even Hr 3012 would be of geat help to EB3. Little better than what we have. Concurrent filing of I-485 with I-140 would atleast let us have EAD and AP and give us flexibility with job and travel. This will benefit every one EB2 I/C, EB3 ROW. I am not sure why we are not pushing this.

[chilushah]

Please do not spam the officialsl. And what was the purpose of posting the contact in the post. It will create more spam. Spamming is not appreciated. This is not how things work. It will only harm your own cause. Wish rules and bills can get passed via sending emails and phone or online petitions.
But it is not so. It all needs a lot of advocacy. And advocacy needs everyne to spend lot if their personal time and resources. Please start by supporting IV in our efforts. This issue has already been on IV agenda. But we have to work smartly and see what is best and how to work at different times. By saying h4 spouses are suffering , forced to stay at home by not being allowed to work in your communication, you have damaged your own cause with the officials. Such kind of misguided communications must be avoided. Why will us government help this issue only because h4 is not allowed to work or wants to go through the market test of h1 visa? Especially when unemployment is high and there is pressure to make rules strict? Your communication should have been on how allowing h4 will benefit the country. And not just benefit you as an individual.

Please get active in IV. You will learn a lot about advocating . Support us by subscribing to monthly contributions so that we can work together to get relief. Attend our events when asked, volunteer and help get more people involved. Strength is in numbers and if we have good support no relief is impossible.
Pappu, Thanks for the clarification.

1. We have contacted the DHS official only on the status of the rule making and have not mentioned anything else. We will not contact again them again as per your suggestion.

2. The US government has to attract high skilled workers and support their spouses and make it attractive. Currently, there is shortage for local talent in High skilled engineering. Google MS all wants smartest people from the world. Not everyone's spouse comes under H1B skilled list. I have friends that have moved to Singapore and other countries around the world with easier immigration options.

3. We would like to invest and open a business. Unfortunately, there is no startup visa act that allows to open a small business easily. I would like my spouse work and create jobs about 5 people.

4. I am regular contributor to IV. Also, I have done all the AI's.

Unfortunately, we all know that the political climate is not the best ever at the moment. HR 3012 will go thru waves of negotiation behind the scenes . But I agree, It should pass on its own without any strings attached.


Thanks IV! Jai Ho!

[senram]

Actually Pappu's reply is correct and shows that he understands the situation in US correctly.

We cannot ask to change the law or regulation based on individual benefit unless there is any kind of discrimination.

If you want to create a business you can get H1b visa easily if it is technology related. You can start a business and apply visa for the company. There are some difficulties but I know many who started business and started H1b. If you really have an idea to start business you can think of starting by H1b. Discuss with immigration Attorney

It is possible that DHS may come up with that rule making if they do not have legal issues in that.


Pappu, Thanks for the clarification.

1. We have contacted the DHS official only on the status of the rule making and have not mentioned anything else. We will not contact again them again as per your suggestion.

2. The US government has to attract high skilled workers and support their spouses and make it attractive. Currently, there is shortage for local talent in High skilled engineering. Google MS all wants smartest people from the world. Not everyone's spouse comes under H1B skilled list. I have friends that have moved to Singapore and other countries around the world with easier immigration options.

3. We would like to invest and open a business. Unfortunately, there is no startup visa act that allows to open a small business easily. I would like my spouse work and create jobs about 5 people.

4. I am regular contributor to IV. Also, I have done all the AI's.

Unfortunately, we all know that the political climate is not the best ever at the moment. HR 3012 will go thru waves of negotiation behind the scenes . But I agree, It should pass on its own without any strings attached.


Thanks IV! Jai Ho!

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[np5337]

That's awesome...Here is another one just updated on USCIS blog...

The Beacon (http://blog.uscis.gov/)

[np5337]

USCIS blog Update

The Beacon (http://blog.uscis.gov/)

[checkmet64]

Hi Pappu,

Quick question. I was initiating a monthly contributions and it came to me whether it would be more helpful I did a larger one time contribuion at this stage?

[checkmet64]

Done AIs for today. Sent email as well as printed letters to senators for $9.


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[bibliophile2020]

We can't let this threa die!
Done AI

[spven]

I have seen some negative comments posted yesterday. Please don't post negative comments and spread negative energy around. Until we are notified by IV core, we should presume bill isn't dead and that they are working in the background. If some one thinks laws are done overnight, they aren't living in this universe; remember high profile law like ACA took almost an year, comapritively 3012 was a small fish for politicians. More over there is a lot of time left in 112 including lame duck session. Though many people think nothing with immigration will be done during election year, I differ with it. There will be influx of immigration bills coming in the next few months. Republicans very well know that they can't win white house unless they get atleast 35% of Hispanic vote. It doesn't look like Romney is going to get those at this point. So as to mend fence, we should see any array of immigrations bills including republican version of dream act. Chill out guys, pass on positive energy.....

[praskar]

I agree, IV is doing a lot and I know there will be a positive change.

[vishalgupta2]

I got a response from my senator. I have forgot what ID to send it to. I know I should not paste response here.

Can anyone please tell me where to send the response?

[bpratap]

I got a response from my senator. I have forgot what ID to send it to. I know I should not paste response here.

Can anyone please tell me where to send the response?

sento info@immigrationvoice.org

[vishalgupta2]

Done... Thank you

[waitingnwaiting]

No news is good news. I used to be skeptical. IV seems to be very smart because I have verified that IV is behind the bill. Let us await the results. Here is my contribution of $100 today payment : S-5R164328HL0997829

[lost_in_migration]

The "News" is Hopes are dimming for Irish E3 visa and the question is does HR 3012 with its hold have any hope of taken up for vote in a democratic senate without Irish E3 ?

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Hopes-are-dimming--for-passage-of-Irish-E3-visa-bill-in-Congress-148163085.html

[bibliophile2020]

I think it's still too soon to say "Long Live HR 3012"

[waitingnwaiting]

The "News" is Hopes are dimming for Irish E3 visa and the question is does HR 3012 with its hold have any hope of taken up for vote in a democratic senate without Irish E3 ?

Hopes are dimming for passage of Irish E3 visa bill in Congress | Irish News | IrishCentral (http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Hopes-are-dimming--for-passage-of-Irish-E3-visa-bill-in-Congress-148163085.html)

This is wonderful news.!!

Those who do not understand politics will not understand the implications of this news. But the reality is as soon as Irish Bill dies , HR3012 will pass. The sooner it dies the sooner our bill will pass.

[vsrinir]

I guess our bill HR 3012 is already dead...because no one knows what is happening...

[waitingnwaiting]

I guess our bill HR 3012 is already dead...because no one knows what is happening...

That is fully incorrect because I verified from a reliable source. I also know that donor members know what's going on and they refuse to tell the updates even if they are close friends. That means something important is going on. Until IV core says so it is not dead. We need to do our AIs and those that have not contributed should contribute because IV is doing work and it needs to get the bill passed.

[sanju22577]

yes pls port to eb2 otherwise quit from us.