Canada freezing immigration?

[waitingnwaiting]

Toronto News: Immigration applicants upset at Ottawa’s plan to wipe out backlog - thestar.com (http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1166154--immigration-applicants-upset-at-ottawa-s-plan-to-wipe-out-backlog?bn=1)


Many of us have also applied for Canada and will affect us.

[Rb_newsletter]

Most people (aliens in US) apply for Canada as a backup for their US GC plan. By freezing the immigration people are not loosing anything, unless they hit with any hurdles in the US GC process. It is Canadian govt loosing their revenue through immigration process and tax from immigrants after issuing PR.

[psaxena]

This may happen in US tooo... what will we do then????

[pappu]

This may happen in US tooo... what will we do then????

Few months ago there was a proposal to remove EB3 catagory completely. It was felt that EB3 people are doing jobs that only require undergraduate degrees. They are not doing advanced research , innovation or senior management work. With so much unemployment and bad economy do we really need EB3? are they the best and the brightest that this country needs are some of the questions being asked by the opponents.

So this idea is not new anymore in USA. Fortunately It just does not have support to go through. However increase in unemployment, more fraud stories like the ones we are hearing every other month from consulting firms etc could very well tighten the visa laws for present and future applicants and also eliminate EB3.

[amulchandra]

Pray that HR 3012 will pass soon and get us all out of this mess.

Amul

[pappu]

Pray that HR 3012 will pass soon and get us all out of this mess.

Amul


Yes. True.

Also, sometimes we have to make efforts only to protect and stay at least in status quo. Couple of years ago we worked hard to oppose Durbin Grassley provisions that had good chance of getting through. There have been so many times we have to work on opposing amendments that hurt the interest of this community. If such provisions had passed many people in EB2 , EB3 all countries would have had to go back. So success is not just getting a bill passed but also to be able to advocate against a bill that harms interests.

[swamy]

Yes I recall that critical effort. EB3 annual quota itself is only 40k - &that includes toddlers and at-home wives so its ridiculous to think this makes any difference in a trillion dollar economy not to mention the fact that despite the occasional abuses which are well prosecuted now, american firms want the best talent for any job!A lot of firms now bluntly say they dont sponsor visas so if one does manage to get an offer, it ipso facto means he/she is a great find & desperate need for the company. Romney is sensibly talking about increasing the legal quotas but it could merely be election season talk - & ofcourse gop base is fiercely anti-immigrant

[gk_2000]

This fear mongering coming from IV leadership doesn't motivate anyone !

I would have given you a green, except for this line.. I think that is not what pappu was trying to do

[GCHope2011]

Industries are not built around EB1 and EB2 alone. All industries need talent from the top order to lower end. That is the reason US immigration has categories ranging from EB1 through agricultural seasonal workers. Each category has their place in US immigration.

Can companies be run by CEO and senior management alone ? After all management is just "managing" the worker bees. Management is not adding any value on their own.

Talking of innovation, it can happen anywhere in this modern world. It need not be in US. Providing a welcoming environment for skilled workers makes more competitive. Thinking otherwise is just the way union supporters and anti-immigrants think.

This fear mongering coming from IV leadership doesn't motivate anyone !
Dont mistake the realities of the world as "fear mongering by IV leadership". Try getting on the inside to see what goes on in the political circles - just because something against EB has not happened and come out widely in the open, it does not mean that there is no one against EB.

[imh1b]

Some people need all information as a sugar coated candy. Anything negative cannot be digested.

Dude you have not yet seen the realty or know antis yet. It's worse in there. Spend some time on google going through the advocacy work antis are doing against us with their millions.

[go_guy123]

Toronto News: Immigration applicants upset at Ottawa’s plan to wipe out backlog - thestar.com (http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1166154--immigration-applicants-upset-at-ottawa-s-plan-to-wipe-out-backlog?bn=1)


Many of us have also applied for Canada and will affect us.

Backlog will always be there when more people apply for smaller quota.
In the USA we have a birth country based back and India/China gets stuck in the skilled
based category.

In the case with Canada, it is a processing post quota. So there massive applicants in countries like India, China and therefore there are backlogs in New Delhi , Singapore etc.

But since it is not birth country or citizenship based, Indians and Chinese inside Canada and in the US get to apply in US/Canada quota and get done faster and not have to worry about the New Delhi , Beijing etc processing quota.

[laddu0]

Because of this nobody is going to lose only canada is going to lose. When I watched olympic opening ceremony they said canada population is only 35 million. If they dont allow immigrants, in 1 or 2 decades most of the land will be vacant. Already I heard that there are so many places still untouched by human in canada.

Unlike USA where we enjoy employment without any discrimination, in canada majority of immigrant people don't get employment in their skill. It includes doctors, phd's etc., In fact my brother who was migrated to canada with 20 years of chemical technology experience from India, does some job just to spend life though he got his citizenship.

As said by one of the member, I am one of them who applied for canadian PR as back up and I am travelling to canada on 9/4 to get my PR only with the feeling of all money spent on this is waste.

[go_guy123]

Because of this nobody is going to lose only canada is going to lose. When I watched olympic opening ceremony they said canada population is only 35 million. If they dont allow immigrants, in 1 or 2 decades most of the land will be vacant. Already I heard that there are so many places still untouched by human in canada.

Unlike USA where we enjoy employment without any discrimination, in canada majority of immigrant people don't get employment in their skill. It includes doctors, phd's etc., In fact my brother who was migrated to canada with 20 years of chemical technology experience from India, does some job just to spend life though he got his citizenship.

As said by one of the member, I am one of them who applied for canadian PR as back up and I am travelling to canada on 9/4 to get my PR only with the feeling of all money spent on this is waste.


If you have no intension to stay then why did you apply? Unnecessarily you used a quota and denied someone else.

Chemical side one can get job in more in Oil sands area. Doctors I know there is major residency quota issue just like US (AMA lobby) makes it harder for IMG (even with GC).
20 years of chemical technology experience, if can say if that experience is in Petrochemicals side from say Reliance and he should get some job in Oil sands projects.

Having said I do agree immigration is mainly something that makes sense at early age. After 20 years experience it becomes hard. I do agree US job is more dynamic but Oil and Gas side Canada is not bad. Ofcourse one cant be searching for Oil and Gas jobs in Toronto.

[Rb_newsletter]

If you have no intension to stay then why did you apply?

As I already stated, people who were already in US applied for Canadian PR only as a backup. A few guys returned their Canadian PR after getting US GC.


Unnecessarily you used a quota and denied someone else.

Most people who applied didn't get their Canadian GC. But whoever got would have paid taxes in Canada too.
You can call them selfish for taking others opportunity, but it is like blocking seats for air travel.

[laddu0]

I applied under Alberta H1B program. In 2007 Alberta sponsored H1B people specifically from USA. As said by other member, most of the people applied only as a back up.

[ndbhatt]

I applied under Alberta H1B program. In 2007 Alberta sponsored H1B people specifically from USA. As said by other member, most of the people applied only as a back up.

I too applied for PR via AINP as a backup hoping that US immigration will change. However, I moved to Canada this summer since GC seems nowhere insight and I would have risked losing my CDN PR (already spent 2.5 years living outside Canada).

Along the same lines, if nothing happens this year, then the folks sitting on fence :rolleyes: will have to evaluate whether to wait for GC mirage or move on to Canada with PR in hand. As I understand most of them who applied in 2007/8 run a risk of losing CDN PR if they don't act soon due to PR residency requirement of 730 days in 5 years. I had no choice but to cave-in due to my children education.

[go_guy123]

As I already stated, people who were already in US applied for Canadian PR only as a backup. A few guys returned their Canadian PR after getting US GC.


Most people who applied didn't get their Canadian GC. But whoever got would have paid taxes in Canada too.
You can call them selfish for taking others opportunity, but it is like blocking seats for air travel.

This is the very reason in 2002 they added the requirement of physical presence test for maintaining PR in Canda. Earlier it used to be ties to Canada like it was in US. But people it like "blocking a ticket". Now no more...the day you land the clock ticks for 2 years stay in the 5 year window.

[go_guy123]

I too applied for PR via AINP as a backup hoping that US immigration will change. However, I moved to Canada this summer since GC seems nowhere insight and I would have risked losing my CDN PR (already spent 2.5 years living outside Canada).

Along the same lines, if nothing happens this year, then the folks sitting on fence :rolleyes: will have to evaluate whether to wait for GC mirage or move on to Canada with PR in hand. As I understand most of them who applied in 2007/8 run a risk of losing CDN PR if they don't act soon due to PR residency requirement of 730 days in 5 years. I had no choice but to cave-in due to my children education.

ndbhatt...you did the right thing. EB3-I is pretty much finished. And I doubt they will remove the per country quota any time soon. The opposition was caught off guard back in Dec / Nov 2011. Now they are ready to oppose.
You can always explore options later.