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renjuzone
06-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Hello,

I need some advice on how to file for my EAD and AP renewals. Every year till now, I've filed the EAD and AP separately but am hoping to file them together to receive the combo card. Here's my question/problem.

Through some quirk that I am not sure I understand, It seems that my I-485 was receipted through the Texas Service Center rather than the Nebraska Service Center. Rules for proper filing location appear to differ for (APs) rather than for EADs.

EAD applicants seem to have to file the I-765 at the USCIS lockbox having jurisdiction over the FN's place of residence, which means my EAD application should go to the Arizona lockbox. [I am from the mid-west] For advance paroles, the rule appears to be that I have to file the I-131 based on the receipt number on the I-485 on which AP eligibility is based. (i.e, If the I-485 receipt starts with LIN or WAC, we have to file the I-131 with the Arizona lockbox. If the I-485 receipt starts with SRC or EAC, we have to file the I-131 with the Texas lockbox.)

Therefore, in my case, it appears that my AP application has to be filed at the Texas lockbox and the EAD has to be filed at the Arizona lockbox. It appears to be that USCIS only issues combined EAD & AP cards if the two forms are filed together but for my case, the instructions on where to file appear to prevent the two forms from being filed together.

What do I do to get the combo card? Does anyone have any similar experience to share?

Desertfox
06-13-2012, 09:28 AM
If you apply I-765 online, it will give you an option to add I-131, and the receipt notice generated at the end of the application process will give you the mailing address for the supporting documents. The online system will ask you for the service center where your I-485 is pending at, and it automatically determines the filing location.

Hello,

I need some advice on how to file for my EAD and AP renewals. Every year till now, I've filed the EAD and AP separately but am hoping to file them together to receive the combo card. Here's my question/problem.

Through some quirk that I am not sure I understand, It seems that my I-485 was receipted through the Texas Service Center rather than the Nebraska Service Center. Rules for proper filing location appear to differ for (APs) rather than for EADs.

EAD applicants seem to have to file the I-765 at the USCIS lockbox having jurisdiction over the FN's place of residence, which means my EAD application should go to the Arizona lockbox. [I am from the mid-west] For advance paroles, the rule appears to be that I have to file the I-131 based on the receipt number on the I-485 on which AP eligibility is based. (i.e, If the I-485 receipt starts with LIN or WAC, we have to file the I-131 with the Arizona lockbox. If the I-485 receipt starts with SRC or EAC, we have to file the I-131 with the Texas lockbox.)

Therefore, in my case, it appears that my AP application has to be filed at the Texas lockbox and the EAD has to be filed at the Arizona lockbox. It appears to be that USCIS only issues combined EAD & AP cards if the two forms are filed together but for my case, the instructions on where to file appear to prevent the two forms from being filed together.

What do I do to get the combo card? Does anyone have any similar experience to share?

spicy_guy
06-13-2012, 10:22 AM
I have couple more questions on this.

My EAD expires in Sep. So I have to file it in July. My AP Expires in Dec.
Can I still file for combo card, though I have sometime left on my AP? Does USCIS accept this?

If I get a combo card, by chance, will my AP get 2 year validity along with my EAD?

pappu
06-13-2012, 10:47 AM
We are meeting USCIS officials in the coming days. If there is a process related issue our members are facing (example massive delays experienced in a service center for a certain application) let us know. We will relay the problems that a lot of our members are experiencing. Last year we helped members with EAD delays. We can take up individual applications and make a request. However for that, the member must be a long term continuous contributor to IV.

njverifier
06-13-2012, 10:49 AM
I have couple more questions on this.

My EAD expires in Sep. So I have to file it in July. My AP Expires in Dec.
Can I still file for combo card, though I have sometime left on my AP? Does USCIS accept this?

If I get a combo card, by chance, will my AP get 2 year validity along with my EAD?

I thought Parole validity is only 1 year, I am curious to know if anyone received a combo card for 2 yrs?

njverifier
06-13-2012, 10:54 AM
I have couple more questions on this.

My EAD expires in Sep. So I have to file it in July. My AP Expires in Dec.
Can I still file for combo card, though I have sometime left on my AP? Does USCIS accept this?

If I get a combo card, by chance, will my AP get 2 year validity along with my EAD?

I was in a similar situation and my attorneys told me that combo card will be issued on USCIS discretion. I wanted to wait till I fall in 120 days period and then apply combo card as I am still on H1. My attorneys advised me not have any gap in EAD renewals(not sure why...). I honestly think that USCIS will abide by the 120 day rule for applying AP. so your application for AP may be rejected. Let's see if there are any such cases here on this forum.

greencard.wait
06-13-2012, 11:00 AM
Pappu - your comment on my post pls

This time I am sure thousands of people will be available for H.R. 3012 rally in washington DC if IV team initiate. This will sure give more media attention to this bill.

Your comments / Thoughts

We are meeting USCIS officials in the coming days. If there is a process related issue our members are facing (example massive delays experienced in a service center for a certain application) let us know. We will relay the problems that a lot of our members are experiencing. Last year we helped members with EAD delays. We can take up individual applications and make a request. However for that, the member must be a long term continuous contributor to IV.

ebizash
06-13-2012, 11:01 AM
I thought Parole validity is only 1 year, I am curious to know if anyone received a combo card for 2 yrs?

I applied EAD and AP together in March and DID receive a two-year combo card couple of weeks back.

veereddy
06-13-2012, 11:24 AM
I applied EAD and AP together in March and DID receive a two-year combo card couple of weeks back.

Whichever (EAD/AP) is expiring first you got 2 years from that date?

ebizash
06-13-2012, 11:41 AM
Whichever (EAD/AP) is expiring first you got 2 years from that date?

My AP had expired late last year and EAD was expiring in mid July.

I had applied for both in late March and got approval in late May. The card is effective from the day of approval so essentially I got 1 year and 10 months for EAD and 2 years for AP.

HTH!

spicy_guy
06-13-2012, 11:47 AM
My AP had expired late last year and EAD was expiring in mid July.

I had applied for both in late March and got approval in late May. The card is effective from the day of approval so essentially I got 1 year and 10 months for EAD and 2 years for AP.

HTH!

So you joined them together. Your AP was already eligible for renewal, so you combined them together. But question is, what if some delta left on EAD/AP? Can we still go ahead and apply together?

DallasBlue
06-13-2012, 12:37 PM
We are meeting USCIS officials in the coming days. If there is a process related issue our members are facing (example massive delays experienced in a service center for a certain application) let us know. We will relay the problems that a lot of our members are experiencing. Last year we helped members with EAD delays. We can take up individual applications and make a request. However for that, the member must be a long term continuous contributor to IV.

Can you check why they have to charge $740 for EAD/AP renewal for those who filed before 2k7 Aug each and everytime and only once for those who filed after Aug2k7 ? what different process or procedures do they do to charge everytime for renewal and why not just one time that increased charge ?

pappu
06-13-2012, 12:55 PM
Can you check why they have to charge $740 for EAD/AP renewal for those who filed before 2k7 Aug each and everytime and only once for those who filed after Aug2k7 ? what different process or procedures do they do to charge everytime for renewal and why not just one time that increased charge ?

It has to do with rule change in 2007. To avoid pre 2007 being charged, there will have to be lengthy internal rule making process. But such rule will deprive the agency of additional revenue (and make advocacy difficult). It is surprising why the post 2007 rule that causes loss of fees revenue every couple of years was made in the first place. The whole EAD/AP process is still not perfect in our opinion. We had given several suggestions to improve it and some were implemented. The 2 year EAD is the biggest relief. We had suggested it to be 3 year instead of 1 year at that time. If you check the old threads you will see suggestions like delivery of EAD/AP documents so that they are not lost in the mail and returned, expedite processing after a certain time etc. Many are now implemented. All it takes is someone taking up the responsibility and preparing a document with a list, rationale, how it is possible in the current law without any law change or admin fix and how many people it will help. Officials are very receptive to suggestions and willing to implement good suggestions. But it needs someone to explain in meetings and take the extra effort to follow up periodically.This will seem contrary to popular opinion on the forums where people rant and admin may play to the crowd by talking negatively about the agency. But talking negatively only helps build site traffic and business. To bring positive changes, one has to constantly advocate the agency by building trust as a representative of the immigrant community.

Chandini
06-13-2012, 01:09 PM
We are meeting USCIS officials in the coming days. If there is a process related issue our members are facing (example massive delays experienced in a service center for a certain application) let us know. We will relay the problems that a lot of our members are experiencing. Last year we helped members with EAD delays. We can take up individual applications and make a request. However for that, the member must be a long term continuous contributor to IV..

What about unused visas for EB-3. Lot of people are waiting for more than a decade to get green card approval. Every one is suffering because of the long wait. Family is also suffering.

checkmet64
06-13-2012, 01:17 PM
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What about unused visas for EB-3. Lot of people are waiting for more than a decade to get green card approval. Every one is suffering because of the long wait. Family is also suffering.

I think this will open up the whole EB2 Vs EB3 discussion. Instead, the approach should be "every one is atleast able to file 1485 if I140 is approved", as was suggested by the previous poster.

pappu
06-13-2012, 01:17 PM
Yes, for common good you can propose is, allow to file I-485 to all who have apporved I-140s immaterial of category and Priority Dates

There is massive delays in EB-3 India priority dates, Why can't USCIS make some spillover to EB3 India This category is really starving for PDs? Instead of spilling visas only to EB2 India. USCIS can divert the spillover to EB-3 India also, if they wish. Why can't IV suggest that? EB3 India is not untouchables any way. A person whose priority date is March 2010 had the opportunity fo have his EAD, why can't EB-3 India applicants who missed filing on 2007 due to various reasons can't file I-485???

If one is asking an agency to do any change, it has to be within the current law. It needs to be clear what one wants. Is it an internal small change via memo or a big admin fix. If it is not within the current law it will have to be a legislative fix. So when suggesting an admin fix, one has to also explain how it is within the current law. The EB3 backlog problem is very widely known and we all want relief any way possible.Even USCIS knows about the backlog of EB3 and how it is hurting the applicants. But there are limitations in the law how much relief is possible. This is why legislative fix is the only hope for most backlogged and why IV has always pushed for it. There is no other silver bullet for us in EB3.

pappu
06-13-2012, 01:21 PM
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What about unused visas for EB-3. Lot of people are waiting for more than a decade to get green card approval. Every one is suffering because of the long wait. Family is also suffering.

Were any EB3 visas wasted in the last 1/2 years? Please send me details with official proof. If you are referring to unused visas over the last many years and recapturing it then it is a legislative fix. It means bringing a bill and getting it passed.

madhavi
06-13-2012, 01:29 PM
USCIS issues Advance Parole for 2 years only if it is applied along with EAD renewal. Is it possible for them to issue Advance Parole for 2 years irrespective of EAD renewal.

Thanks

pappu
06-13-2012, 01:35 PM
USCIS issues Advance Parole for 2 years only if it is applied along with EAD renewal. Is it possible for them to issue Advance Parole for 2 years irrespective of EAD renewal.

Thanks

A combo card is for 2 years. Not sure why would one want EAD for 1 year and AP for 2 years?

dts
06-13-2012, 01:37 PM
USCIS issues Advance Parole for 2 years only if it is applied along with EAD renewal. Is it possible for them to issue Advance Parole for 2 years irrespective of EAD renewal.

Thanks

This is good suggestion.
Lots of folks are currently out of sync about expiry date of EAD and AP. So Can not take advantage of dual filing.
Logically it does not make sense to issue 2 years AP if applied with EAD and only 1 year if applied separately.
I think this is minor administrative fix and can be accepted by USCIS easily.

deepakd
06-13-2012, 01:38 PM
Any update on original topic: HR 3012 ?
Thanks in Advance

dts
06-13-2012, 01:53 PM
We are meeting USCIS officials in the coming days. If there is a process related issue our members are facing (example massive delays experienced in a service center for a certain application) let us know. We will relay the problems that a lot of our members are experiencing. Last year we helped members with EAD delays. We can take up individual applications and make a request. However for that, the member must be a long term continuous contributor to IV.

Pappu,
When I-485 already filed, it is very risky to stay even few days without AP. In case of emergency, travelling without AP will just ruin life.
Looking to delay in AP process one has to start renewal 3-4 months in advance of AP expiry , effectively reducing AP validity time to 9 or 10 months.

Many folks currently are out of sync on expiry dates for EAD and AP . So they can not take advantage of simultaneous filing and 2 years validity of AP.
It does not make any logic or sense to give one year validity if applied independently and two years if applied separately for same case.
I think USCIS can easily understand this situation and can be easily convince to extend 2 years validity of AP irrespective of filing type.Also, seems like this is minor admin fix and should not need any lengthy process.

Please take up this issue with USCIS while we all are eagerly waiting for final solution H.R.3012.

pappu
06-13-2012, 01:55 PM
Pappu,
When I-485 already filed, it is very risky to stay even few days without AP. In case of emergency, travelling without AP will just ruin life.
Looking to delay in AP process one has to start renewal 3-4 months in advance of AP expiry , effectively reducing AP validity time to 9 or 10 months.

Many folks currently are out of sync on expiry dates for EAD and AP . So they can not take advantage of simultaneous filing and 2 years validity of AP.
It does not make any logic or sense to give one year validity if applied independently and two years if applied separately for same case.
I think USCIS can easily understand this situation and can be easily convince to extend 2 years validity of AP irrespective of filing type.Also, seems like this is minor admin fix and should not need any lengthy process.

Please take up this issue with USCIS while we all are eagerly waiting for final solution H.R.3012.

Makes sense

gk_2000
06-13-2012, 01:57 PM
If one is asking an agency to do any change, it has to be within the current law. It needs to be clear what one wants. Is it an internal small change via memo or a big admin fix. If it is not within the current law it will have to be a legislative fix. So when suggesting an admin fix, one has to also explain how it is within the current law. The EB3 backlog problem is very widely known and we all want relief any way possible.Even USCIS knows about the backlog of EB3 and how it is hurting the applicants. But there are limitations in the law how much relief is possible. This is why legislative fix is the only hope for most backlogged and why IV has always pushed for it. There is no other silver bullet for us in EB3.
Pappu,
I know we have been through this before, but here it is -- how it is under the current laws. The current law is quoted below:

Sec. 245. [8 U.S.C. 1255]

(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification as a VAWA self-petitioner 1aa/ may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if
(1) the alien makes an application for such adjustment,
(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and
(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed


Nowhere does it say, that the application can't be kept pending

What USCIS will probably have to deal with after that, is the list of dust-collecting application forms, yellowing paper and all with bugs chewing on them over the years. They will more than make up for all that with the fees etc

Also, I am curious, what if the AOS is rejected..? Will we be placed on removal proceedings? And if judge cancels the removal proceedings, then we can again file AOS? Can a route be created here?

hello
06-13-2012, 02:17 PM
Yes, for common good you can propose is, allow to file I-485 to all who have apporved I-140s immaterial of category and Priority Dates

There is massive delays in EB-3 India priority dates, Why can't USCIS make some spillover to EB3 India This category is really starving for PDs? Instead of spilling visas only to EB2 India. USCIS can divert the spillover to EB-3 India also, if they wish. Why can't IV suggest that? EB3 India is not untouchables any way. A person whose priority date is March 2010 had the opportunity fo have his EAD, why can't EB-3 India applicants who missed filing on 2007 due to various reasons can't file I-485???
Pls read this article.May be we can get some help on PD.
Cyrus D. Mehta & Associates, PLLC - Immigration Updates (http://www.cyrusmehta.com/News.aspx?SubIdx=ocyrus20103925436)

dts
06-13-2012, 02:21 PM
Makes sense

Thanks Pappu,
Appreciate if this point or fix is taken in to agenda during your meeting with USCIS.
If that is done without fee hike, it will save significant money for families in queue.This is easy to fix which can give some relief to already tired GC waiters.

gk_2000
06-13-2012, 02:29 PM
Pls read this article.May be we can get some help on PD.
Cyrus D. Mehta & Associates, PLLC - Immigration Updates (http://www.cyrusmehta.com/News.aspx?SubIdx=ocyrus20103925436)

Three winners with this --
Bugs Feed for ages
USCIS gets Fees
We get Free

vhd999
06-13-2012, 02:37 PM
Pappu,

Few months ago, some of the members were complaining about DOS not allocating the maximum allowable visas (2700 or so) to EB3 India. Not sure if this is still the case.

I think it is worth raising this issue.

dts
06-13-2012, 02:38 PM
Pls read this article.May be we can get some help on PD.
Cyrus D. Mehta & Associates, PLLC - Immigration Updates (http://www.cyrusmehta.com/News.aspx?SubIdx=ocyrus20103925436)


I do not have knowledge on spillover rules in prior years. But heard that in prior years ( may be 2005/2006 , there was equal spillover.)
If that was case, how they changed spill over rule without legislative process?
Can it be rollback in the same way?
Not trying to make rift between EB2 and EB3 unity but can't be changed spillover for EB2/EB3 to 70/30 or 75/25 basis ?

Is there any way to change spillover rule with admin fix and without legislative process?

imh1b
06-13-2012, 02:40 PM
Pls read this article.[/url]

No I will not read it.
If you think the idea is so good, why is no update on this idea after more than 2 year? why don't you find out and tell us the update instead of just posting links to ideas someone else needs to work on for the lawyer?

Has the lawyer asked AILA to help? Have they met USCIS with their ideas? If not what is the point of posting on a website? It will only make people copy paste link over and over again.

dts
06-13-2012, 02:41 PM
Three winners with this --
Bugs Feed for ages
USCIS gets Fees
We get Free

Yes, If this is something doable or possible , Pappu, IV core team should focus on this.

imh1b
06-13-2012, 02:44 PM
I do not have knowledge on spillover rules in prior years. But heard that in prior years ( may be 2005/2006 , there was equal spillover.)
If that was case, how they changed spill over rule without legislative process?
Can it be rollback in the same way?
Not trying to make rift between EB2 and EB3 unity but can't be changed spillover for EB2/EB3 to 70/30 or 75/25 basis ?

Is there any way to change spillover rule with admin fix and without legislative process?

Even if they rollback. Eb3 India will get zero help. Only EB3 ROW will benefit. And we all know how racist and anti-Indians they post views on forums. These ROWs have not even contributed or participated in any bill so far. So why should we help them for free?

imh1b
06-13-2012, 02:47 PM
Yes, If this is something doable or possible , Pappu, IV core team should focus on this.

We should oppose the rollback. It does not help India in any way. At least the current system helps India and China a big way. And India and China needs help.

Madhuri
06-13-2012, 02:47 PM
A combo card is for 2 years. Not sure why would one want EAD for 1 year and AP for 2 years?
When we apply for EAD we are not sure what will be the start date of the new card. For example if EAD expires on July 22 and applicant applied within the 120 days time frame, there is not guarantee that USCIS will issue new EAD with start date of July 22. For some people the new EAD starts before expiration of the old one and in the process we loose days/months. Why it is so difficult to approve EAD with appropriate start date? Can we take up this issue with them?

dts
06-13-2012, 02:49 PM
Even if they rollback. Eb3 India will get zero help. Only EB3 ROW will benefit. And we all know how racist and anti-Indians they post views on forums. These ROWs have not even contributed or participated in any bill so far. So why should we help them for free?

why you think EB3 India will get zero help? Can you give your calculations?
There is no ROW pending in 2002, 2003, 2004.........
Spillover will go to EB3 India. ( like EB2 India benifited )

imh1b
06-13-2012, 02:56 PM
why you think EB3 India will get zero help? Can you give your calculations?
There is no ROW pending in 2002, 2003, 2004.........
Spillover will go to EB3 India. ( like EB2 India benifited )

Teddy has a long post on his thread. Check that . He has calculated and explain. But even then some not-sharp folks like Shakti never understand it and keep arguing it. You guys have teddy explain you again .

imh1b
06-13-2012, 03:00 PM
now EB2 can wait. they all have EADs.

Tell that to any EB2 who is just some months away from getting current. Dont start a EB2 vs EB3 war on the thread now.

rkp
06-13-2012, 03:13 PM
A combo card is for 2 years. Not sure why would one want EAD for 1 year and AP for 2 years?

Pappu, I recently applies for EAD/AP, and the combo card I received is valid for 1 year only. There seem to be other threads here which seem to suggest that combo cards are eing given for 1 year only.

pappu
06-13-2012, 03:16 PM
Pappu, I recently applies for EAD/AP, and the combo card I received is valid for 1 year only. There seem to be other threads here which seem to suggest that combo cards are eing given for 1 year only.

What was the reason given to you?

Rb_newsletter
06-13-2012, 03:20 PM
When we apply for EAD we are not sure what will be the start date of the new card. For example if EAD expires on July 22 and applicant applied within the 120 days time frame, there is not guarantee that USCIS will issue new EAD with start date of July 22. For some people the new EAD starts before expiration of the old one and in the process we loose days/months. Why it is so difficult to approve EAD with appropriate start date? Can we take up this issue with them?

Madhuri, this is a great reminder. Kudos to you.

Pappu, please take this in your list. It should work similar to H1 renewals. It should satrt frm the date when the current EAD/AP expires.

dts
06-13-2012, 03:23 PM
I support this. This should be the way USCIS should be approving EAD/AP documents to begin with. New documents' validity should start only after the old one's expiry date. We have to pay such heavy fees for EAD/AP approvals, and then they don't approve with the appropriate time duration. This does not make sense and USCIS should not have any problem fixing this.

For EAD, USCIS won't process the application quickly enough ( 90 day processing duration), we have to apply in advance. When we apply in advance, USCIS approves the document with validity date starting on the day of adjudication which can vary wildly depending on when AO picks up a document for processing. We cannot delay the filing to take advantage of a later validity date as USCIS sticks to 90 day processing timeline and we risk losing our jobs.

completely support this. Alongwith 2 years validity of AP independently, Pappu and IV should take this also. And why only EAD start date ? AP start date also should be that way.
That will clear lots of complexities and beuracracy from which we all fed up.

sanju_dba
06-13-2012, 03:30 PM
I just got my EAD+AP renewed, sent them together, but got
2 year EAD and 1 year AP seperately.
If they can give an explanation why they didnot granted a combo card, that will help prepare for next time.

dts
06-13-2012, 03:31 PM
completely support this. Alongwith 2 years validity of AP independently, Pappu and IV should take this also. And why only EAD start date ? AP start date also should be that way.
That will clear lots of complexities and beuracracy from which we all fed up.

1) In fact, adding to this, one should be allowed to work as soon as he/she gets receipt notice for EAD like H1-B.
This will help lot to people not to risk their jobs or unauthorized employment.

2)may be same thing for AP? One can leave country as soon as gets receipt for AP.
People can get rid of lots of risks , hassle and anxiety .

EAD/AP rarely gets rejected in EB category compare to h1-B.
If H1-B are allowed to work based on receipt notice, why not EAD/AP?

Both of above are administartive fix and does not seems too difficult.

ajay
06-13-2012, 03:32 PM
When we apply for EAD we are not sure what will be the start date of the new card. For example if EAD expires on July 22 and applicant applied within the 120 days time frame, there is not guarantee that USCIS will issue new EAD with start date of July 22. For some people the new EAD starts before expiration of the old one and in the process we loose days/months. Why it is so difficult to approve EAD with appropriate start date? Can we take up this issue with them?

This is the same issue with AP too. I have been using AP since 2007. At any point of time I do not want myself or my wife to not be able to travel out of the country. I always apply a couple of months in advance and the approval date is always much much earlier than the AP expiry date. In the past 4 yrs ( 4 AP's ) I have lost at least lost 8 months due to this fact. Same for my wife and son too.

rkp
06-13-2012, 03:33 PM
What was the reason given to you?

I don't see anything in the notice as to why it was for one year.

Do I need to open an SR to get a reason?

hello
06-13-2012, 03:48 PM
No I will not read it.
If you think the idea is so good, why is no update on this idea after more than 2 year? why don't you find out and tell us the update instead of just posting links to ideas someone else needs to work on for the lawyer?

Has the lawyer asked AILA to help? Have they met USCIS with their ideas? If not what is the point of posting on a website? It will only make people copy paste link over and over again.It doesn't matter if you read it or not but if you haven't read how do you know whats inside?.I don't ask update to any lawyer.I found this on internet and why I posted it because I wanted to share about EAD when PD is not current.If folks can get EAD that will be good for all.EB2/EB3 India/China/ROW.How many questions you have thrown on me like I have done something wrong.I think you have EAD and you are fine but what about folks who can not file I485 because PD is not current and their spouse can not work.I was just throwing an idea regarding EAD and we had that campaign two years ago.So when people talk to USCIS they can bring this also in discussion.I know Pappu and other folks in IV know this and if they think its a good idea they will discuss.

mgmanoj
06-13-2012, 03:55 PM
We are meeting USCIS officials in the coming days. If there is a process related issue our members are facing (example massive delays experienced in a service center for a certain application) let us know. We will relay the problems that a lot of our members are experiencing. Last year we helped members with EAD delays. We can take up individual applications and make a request. However for that, the member must be a long term continuous contributor to IV.

Can you bring up the issue of allowing to file I485 for people who missed 2007 fiasco ? with some criteria - even we have to pay renewal fees like 2007 prior people pays every time so h1b renewal and stamping issue can be avoided and tense free travel .

dkar
06-13-2012, 04:01 PM
I was just issued a 1 Year EAD(+ AP Combo card) with a start date 3 months before the current one expires. (i.e. 9 months effective; next time it will be 6 months and so on...)
At this rate I will have to apply thrice in the next 2 years.

My PD is Dec 2004. EB3 of course.
(I am posting it here in this thread as it is being discussed)

thank you and regards

amulchandra
06-13-2012, 04:10 PM
I got my EAD couple of days back and it was for 2 years. my PD is july 2006 eb3 India.

While efiling the application in the note field I specifically mentioned that I am eligible for a 2 year EAD. May be /may not be a factor but thought of mentioning it.

stillhopegc
06-13-2012, 04:14 PM
Pappu,
Here is my case : both EAD and AP were applied in June of last yr, 2011 by our company lawyers (sorry I don't get to apply myself). EAD came through, AP never came (have never seen the combined card though both were applied at the same time through Texas Service center). On contacting USCIS through our company lawfirm FDBL was told that the AP was approved and probaly lost in mail. Was told only option is to refile wich was done in Nov of 2011 and till date have no AP. A request was raised in May of this year for the delay and the response was they are doing additional review ... and if no response in the next 60 days then contact us.

Why cant they re-issue the AP if it has been approved and lost, why should one re-apply and wait for ages (adding insult to the already long EB3 wait - came here in 1997 for Master's. Working from 2000 and employer applied for GC only in 2004 and the wait continues. Folks pl dont reply port, move off etc. Am looking at all options, not easy when you have a family with kids)

Amman
06-13-2012, 04:20 PM
hi,
I live in VA. Paper filling the EAD and AP. My 485 receipt starts with LIN. Are these correct mailing address and fees ?
EAD
USCIS
PO Box 660867
Dallas, TX 75266
$380

AP
USCIS
PO Box 21281
Phoenix, AZ 85036
$360

dkar
06-13-2012, 04:26 PM
I got my EAD couple of days back and it was for 2 years. my PD is july 2006 eb3 India.

While efiling the application in the note field I specifically mentioned that I am eligible for a 2 year EAD. May be /may not be a factor but thought of mentioning it.

I applied it through my attorney. Not sure if they sent any cover letter etc.

But others who received a 1 year EAD with a start date about 3 months before the current one expires did mention (in the other thread) that they have requested a 2 year EAD. And none of them are anywhere near getting current.

regards.

Madhuri
06-13-2012, 05:08 PM
Pappu, I recently applies for EAD/AP, and the combo card I received is valid for 1 year only. There seem to be other threads here which seem to suggest that combo cards are eing given for 1 year only.
Lat year same thing happened for my son's case. His combo card was valid for only 1 year. We went for info pass and the lady said, it's not a rule that you will get 2 year validity and it can vary. If you want you can send it back to USCIS for correction but no guarantee that you will get 2 yr validity. So of course we chose not to send it back.

seahawks
06-13-2012, 06:16 PM
Pappu To Summarize based on what I am reading and facing some of it personally. Let me know if I missed something.

1. Provision to request duplicate if AP or EAD lost in mail. Currently only way is to re apply and pay the full cost
2. Streamline so that EAD and AP combo card have the same validity of 2 years if applied together
3. Current applications for AP is taking more than an average of 3 months and some in a month. We would like a streamlined mechanism where the ideal processing time should be around 6 to 8 weeks.
4. Renewed AP or EAD should be valid effective the day of the previous AP or EAD expiring date
5. If applied separately, AP or EAD validity still should be two years when approved.

happyfeet
06-13-2012, 06:37 PM
EAD/AP

It is good to see lot of discussions on EAD/AP. I have applied for EAD renewal and I do not know if I will get 2 years or 1 year. Friend of mine renewed EAD and got 1 year extension.
IV should take this up and get renewal of AP/EAD for two years which will be big relief for families. More important thing is kids (struck in EB3 without GC) who are going in to college should have a valid AP to be considered as domestic student. Also every year they should show stamped AP/I94.
With one year validity, every year the kid needs to go out of country to get new I-94 and to get parole stamped. This is lot of expense and pain.


GC

USCIS did a great job in clearing all the back logged labor applications filed before April 2005. We need to request a similar process to clear all the EB3/EB2 backlogs filed before July 2007. This will open up new filing for EB3, EB2.

Otherwise we should ask for automatic porting to EB2 if the EB3 applicant has five years of US experience and getting pay (equivalent to EB2) without labor process. I know many EB3 applicants have master’s degree as well.

Though we are also high skilled and legal, we are deprived of equal rights, just because we have filed in EB3.

We need some solution for EB3.

sukhwinderd
06-13-2012, 08:04 PM
should be just like Samsclub card. you pay for renewal you keep on using it (though renewal fee is seperate topic of discussion). EAD should have card holder since date.
sending documents dont make sense when USCIS already has them.
this time i efiled and the picture was from my first EAD (more than 5 years old).

happyfeet
06-13-2012, 08:27 PM
That suggestion is good.

As some one suggested in the earlier thread, we should consider for Washington rally or sending flowers.

We need some solution and relief for EB3.

checkmet64
06-13-2012, 08:47 PM
EAD/AP

It is good to see lot of discussions on EAD/AP. I have applied for EAD renewal and I do not know if I will get 2 years or 1 year. Friend of mine renewed EAD and got 1 year extension.
IV should take this up and get renewal of AP/EAD for two years which will be big relief for families. More important thing is kids (struck in EB3 without GC) who are going in to college should have a valid AP to be considered as domestic student. Also every year they should show stamped AP/I94.
With one year validity, every year the kid needs to go out of country to get new I-94 and to get parole stamped. This is lot of expense and pain.


GC

USCIS did a great job in clearing all the back logged labor applications filed before April 2005. We need to request a similar process to clear all the EB3/EB2 backlogs filed before July 2007. This will open up new filing for EB3, EB2.

Otherwise we should ask for automatic porting to EB2 if the EB3 applicant has five years of US experience and getting pay (equivalent to EB2) without labor process. I know many EB3 applicants have master’s degree as well.

Though we are also high skilled and legal, we are deprived of equal rights, just because we have filed in EB3.

We need some solution for EB3.

These arguments are short-sighted and immature at best. There seems to be a lot of resentment towards EB2 from EB3 folks. Can I ask why? Everyone wants to file in the best category possible; it’s like nobody wanting a lesser grade in an exam. Whether or not we can do this depends on a lot of factors, including our own choices, among other things. Tomorrow if you are able to port to EB2, does EB2 become gold then?

In my opinion, arguments like these imply-

1). that this is only EB3 battle/forum?

2). that HR3012 has already passed/failed. And IV is now SOLELY working to get more relief for people who already have some in form of EAD/AP.

3). that we are no longer are working on a collective goal of getting relief for everyone and not just one category.

Is any of this this true?

nosightofgc
06-13-2012, 09:02 PM
How come we started discussing about EAD/AP in H.R.3012 thread? A separate thread would have been better?

bibliophile2020
06-13-2012, 09:26 PM
There are so many posts in this thread today. I was not sure what all this excitement is about. For a minute I thought HR 3012 passed senate.:confused:

DallasBlue
06-14-2012, 06:06 AM
There are so many posts in this thread today. I was not sure what all this excitement is about. For a minute I thought HR 3012 passed senate.:confused:

Yes, H.R.3012 passed the senate:confused:

Amman
06-14-2012, 07:11 AM
Any one, any update please ?

AcuraTSX
06-14-2012, 07:55 AM
Can we find out why USCIS is pre-adjudicated recent filed 485 applications while application’s filed during the 2007 fiasco remains un-adjudicated? This would at least give applicants some hope of an positive outcome.

green_mile
06-14-2012, 08:07 AM
should be just like Samsclub card. you pay for renewal you keep on using it (though renewal fee is seperate topic of discussion). EAD should have card holder since date.
sending documents dont make sense when USCIS already has them.
this time i efiled and the picture was from my first EAD (more than 5 years old).

This is by far the best post I came across in this thread.

My PD is 2003 Nov (ofcource it is EB3, and Oh Please keep all your advises about porting to EB2/EB1 with in yourself).

I am looking another 10 years from today to get approval. if any ones PD is after 2004, it will be 30 years or more before they even think about the green card, in case of 2006/2007 50 or more.

so on avearge USCIS should expect 25 to 30 years worth of renewal fee from each applicant.

Let us propose the following admin fix.

1) Issue EAD for life tile for a fee of (30 years * 400 $) = 12000 $.
2) Issue AP for life = 15000 $.
3) Issue Combo for life = 25000$ ( a whoofing dicount of 2000$ if you ask for combo).

Add 25000 $ for each dependent or take a family combo card for 60000$.

This card has to be surrendered to USCIS in case the original applicant recieves GC or dead, or the green card denied.


who is with me on this? let us propose this admin fix and see.

It is good thing for both country and for the applicants ( Dollar amount sure can be negotiated with USCIS).

checkmet64
06-14-2012, 08:09 AM
Understand that if there was no spillover (mis)interpretation change during 2008, you will not be talking this talk today like EB2 is something big category and upper grade!. Now most porobably EB2 India PD may not move until Fall of 2013, Shall I recommend to you to upgrade to EB1 category? does that sounds good to you? There is lot of insider pulling infavour of EB2 India for sure. Truth will come out one day.

You are still missing the point and continuing with short sighted aurguments. Personally I don't understand any of the statistics frequently talked about in this forum. But what we have seen is that, most "interpretations" are often incorrect. Moreover, I have only recently started following employment immigration, so I have no hindsight knowledge of things that happened in the past. That also means that I don't know what "pulling" you are refering to.

And yes, you are missing the other point, no category is higher or lower, its is just one's situation and paperwork. Personally, I would really like to file in EB1, but can't at this moment, so does that mean EB1 is intrinsically "big", "upper grade."

My point is simple- this is the time to push for HR3012, we have so very few days left in this year. Do we want to use this time to work for a common solution or one that ONLY fits one size.

njverifier
06-14-2012, 08:26 AM
You are still missing the point and continuing with short sighted aurguments. Personally I don't understand any of the statistics frequently talked about in this forum. But what we have seen is that, most "interpretations" are often incorrect. Moreover, I have only recently started following employment immigration, so I have no hindsight knowledge of things that happened in the past. That also means that I don't know what "pulling" you are refering to.

And yes, you are missing the other point, no category is higher or lower, its is just one's situation and paperwork. Personally, I would really like to file in EB1, but can't at this moment, so does that mean EB1 is intrinsically "big", "upper grade."

My point is simple- this is the time to push for HR3012, we have so very few days left in this year. Do we want to use this time to work for a common solution or one that ONLY fits one size.

First of all thanks for accepting that you don't know the background and the facts related to EB3 and/or EB2. Even HR 3012 will do no good to majority of EB3I, I know most of the population on this forum will agree to my point. And the pain of going through the renewal of EAD and AP and not getting them in time cannot be explained in words. Looking at your profile you may or may not experience the pain in future. So it is better to keep quite if you don't know what you are talking about. People on this forum have proposed some very valuable suggestions for some minor admin fixes that will reduce the pain everyone who has EAD/AP irrespective EB category. And of course everyone I bet are doing their bit for pushing HR 3012.

DallasBlue
06-14-2012, 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sukhwinderd
should be just like Samsclub card. you pay for renewal you keep on using it (though renewal fee is seperate topic of discussion). EAD should have card holder since date.
sending documents dont make sense when USCIS already has them.
this time i efiled and the picture was from my first EAD (more than 5 years old).
This is by far the best post I came across in this thread.






This is by far the best post I came across in this thread.

My PD is 2003 Nov (ofcource it is EB3, and Oh Please keep all your advises about porting to EB2/EB1 with in yourself).

I am looking another 10 years from today to get approval. if any ones PD is after 2004, it will be 30 years or more before they even think about the green card, in case of 2006/2007 50 or more.

so on avearge USCIS should expect 25 to 30 years worth of renewal fee from each applicant.

Let us propose the following admin fix.

1) Issue EAD for life tile for a fee of (30 years * 400 $) = 12000 $.
2) Issue AP for life = 15000 $.
3) Issue Combo for life = 25000$ ( a whoofing dicount of 2000$ if you ask for combo).

Add 25000 $ for each dependent or take a family combo card for 60000$.

This card has to be surrendered to USCIS in case the original applicant recieves GC or dead, or the green card denied.


who is with me on this? let us propose this admin fix and see.

It is good thing for both country and for the applicants ( Dollar amount sure can be negotiated with USCIS).


remove the sarcasm, This is what needs to be asked , why pre2k7 july i-485 filers have to pay like $25000 and post 2k7 july I-485 filers only $740 for EAD/AP renewal for lifetime, as to why USCIS is punishing the pre 2k7 july filers every year and the post 2k7 july filers, just pay only once for EAD/AP.

imh1b
06-14-2012, 08:37 AM
First of all thanks for accepting that you don't know the background and the facts related to EB3 and/or EB2. Even HR 3012 will do no good to majority of EB3I, I know most of the population on this forum will agree to my point. And the pain of going through the renewal of EAD and AP and not getting them in time cannot be explained in words. Looking at your profile you may or may not experience the pain in future. So it is better to keep quite if you don't know what you are talking about. People on this forum have proposed some very valuable suggestions for some minor admin fixes that will reduce the pain everyone who has EAD/AP irrespective EB category. And of course everyone I bet are doing their bit for pushing HR 3012.

Not everyone is doing their bit. We are all contributing tons of ideas but hardly resources to execute it. First thing we can do is sign up for monthly donations so that IV can help more.

njverifier
06-14-2012, 08:40 AM
Not everyone is doing their bit. We are all contributing tons of ideas but hardly resources to execute it. First thing we can do is sign up for monthly donations so that IV can help more.

If not everyone most of them are doing their bit. I have seen so many posts that they signed for recurring contributions including me and I also made several one time contributions.

imh1b
06-14-2012, 08:45 AM
remove the sarcasm, This is what needs to be asked , why pre2k7 july i-485 filers have to pay like $25000 and post 2k7 july I-485 filers only $740 for EAD/AP renewal for lifetime, as to why USCIS is punishing the pre 2k7 july filers every year and the post 2k7 july filers, just pay only once for EAD/AP.

Pre2k7 applicants can avoid paying more by restarting and refiling their greencard application in post 2007 date. See there is a workaround to save money.:D:D:D

Why are you worried about few hundred dollars when more number of people post 2k7 have not even are fortunate yet to file I485? How is your fix going to help them? As consultants we earn a lot and this few hundred dollars is just few hour of salary in a day. So why make it a big issue when something else is more important?

checkmet64
06-14-2012, 08:50 AM
First of all thanks for accepting that you don't know the background and the facts related to EB3 and/or EB2. Even HR 3012 will do no good to majority of EB3I, I know most of the population on this forum will agree to my point. And the pain of going through the renewal of EAD and AP and not getting them in time cannot be explained in words. Looking at your profile you may or may not experience the pain in future. So it is better to keep quite if you don't know what you are talking about. People on this forum have proposed some very valuable suggestions for some minor admin fixes that will reduce the pain everyone who has EAD/AP irrespective EB category. And of course everyone I bet are doing their bit for pushing HR 3012.

You are still missing the point and...I could almost write the same post all over again. Anyway, so far I have not seen anything in HR3012 discussion that would suggest it would favor EB2.

If you claim you understand something you have to give proof. PLEASE don's start rumors which will hurt the cause of passing HR3012. Many of the people leading this effort are themselves EB3s.

Finally, I will say this one more time (differently)- suggesting small administrative fixes is fine but bashing an entire category based on some preconcenived "notions" is uncalled for.

This discussion seems pointless in this thread anyway, now that its a separate thread for EAD/AP (atleast you have one to talk about..).

njverifier
06-14-2012, 08:58 AM
Pre2k7 applicants can avoid paying more by restarting and refiling their greencard application in post 2007 date. See there is a workaround to save money.:D:D:D

Why are you worried about few hundred dollars when more number of people post 2k7 have not even are fortunate yet to file I485? How is your fix going to help them? As consultants we earn a lot and this few hundred dollars is just few hour of salary in a day. So why make it a big issue when something else is more important?


Just because you are in consulting and drawing handsome pay doesn't mean everyone in this forum is in the same boat. I am sure you must be a bachelor or married with no kids yet. Talk this when you will have kids and start going to day care. I am sure most of the EB3 guys are well settled bought houses and kids going to school. It is not very easy for everyone as you think. Money is just a secondary thing and I would say the least thing to be worried about...

green_mile
06-14-2012, 09:01 AM
remove the sarcasm, This is what needs to be asked , why pre2k7 july i-485 filers have to pay like $25000 and post 2k7 july I-485 filers only $740 for EAD/AP renewal for lifetime, as to why USCIS is punishing the pre 2k7 july filers every year and the post 2k7 july filers, just pay only once for EAD/AP.

Oh wait... is it really? 740$ for life?

I will ask to move my PD to post 2007 and give me EAD/AP for life 740$ , as far as the green card goes if a 2003 nov guy gets, sure 2012 guy will get in the same year due to visa capture or some other presidential pardon.

njverifier
06-14-2012, 09:03 AM
You are still missing the point and...I could almost write the same post all over again. Anyway, so far I have not seen anything in HR3012 discussion that would suggest it would favor EB2.

If you claim you understand something you have to give proof. PLEASE don's start rumors which will hurt the cause of passing HR3012. Many of the people leading this effort are themselves EB3s.

Finally, I will say this one more time (differently)- suggesting small administrative fixes is fine but bashing an entire category based on some preconcenived "notions" is uncalled for.

This discussion seems pointless in this thread anyway, now that its a separate thread for EAD/AP (atleast you have one to talk about..).

I see where you are taking this discussion to... First of all you make baseless claims and then start the fire about EB3 and EB2. Read your posts carefully about who brought up the EB categories into this discussions. I wish you were more matured and thought about posting something about EB categories here... Having small reliefs has no effect on big ones. While we are fighting for HR 3012 against the Senators there is no harm in requesting small reliefs from USCIS. They are two different things... Please think before you act...

waitingnwaiting
06-14-2012, 09:07 AM
Slightly off topic but
Can someone tell me what are the consulting per hour rates these days for different skills? I am thinking of becoming one as I just lost my job.

njverifier
06-14-2012, 09:09 AM
I see where you are taking this discussion to... First of all you make baseless claims and then start the fire about EB3 and EB2. Read your posts carefully about who brought up the EB categories into this discussions. I wish you were more matured and thought about posting something about EB categories here... Having small reliefs has no effect on big ones. While we are fighting for HR 3012 against the Senators there is no harm in requesting small reliefs from USCIS. They are two different things... Please think before you act...

I request admin to review the posts here and delete those that are negative and starts fight between EB categories. I wish and hope everyone to stay positive all the efforts we put in. Every small relief that we get counts...

dts
06-14-2012, 10:58 AM
Pappu,
As IV is getting meeting with USCIS next week, I her summrize changes proposed by members fro EAD/AP.

1) EAD start date should be same as expiry of previous EAD.

2) One can start work on EAD based on receipt notice and does not need to wait for approval.

3) AP validity should be 2 years independently irrespective of filing with or without EAD.

4) One can travel on AP based on receipt notice without waiting for approval.

Above changes can significantly remove lots of complexities , anxiety and will save significant money for family waiting for GC.
EAD changes # 1 and 2 will remove risks associated with curretn jobs , unauthorized employment and status.
AP changes #3 and #4 will give releif in case of emergencies without jeopardize GC .

checkmet64
06-14-2012, 11:04 AM
Pappu,
As IV is getting meeting with USCIS next week, I her summrize changes proposed by members fro EAD/AP.

1) EAD start date should be same as expiry of previous EAD.

2) One can start work on EAD based on receipt notice and does not need to wait for approval.

3) AP validity should be 2 years independently irrespective of filing with or without EAD.

4) One can travel on AP based on receipt notice without waiting for approval.

Above changes can significantly remove lots of complexities , anxiety and will save significant money for family waiting for GC.
EAD changes # 1 and 2 will remove risks associated with curretn jobs , unauthorized employment and status.
AP changes #3 and #4 will give releif in case of emergencies without jeopardize GC .

What happened to- allowing to file I485 when I140 is approved, irrespective of PD.

Do we know for sure whether this is an administrative fix or needs legislative framework change?

Amman
06-14-2012, 12:38 PM
can someone respond ? the instrutions are confusing and wanted to confirm.

hi,
I live in VA. Paper filling the EAD and AP. My 485 receipt starts with LIN. Are these correct mailing address and fees ?
EAD
USCIS
PO Box 660867
Dallas, TX 75266
$380

AP
USCIS
PO Box 21281
Phoenix, AZ 85036
$360

pappu
06-14-2012, 01:44 PM
remove the sarcasm, This is what needs to be asked , why pre2k7 july i-485 filers have to pay like $25000 and post 2k7 july I-485 filers only $740 for EAD/AP renewal for lifetime, as to why USCIS is punishing the pre 2k7 july filers every year and the post 2k7 july filers, just pay only once for EAD/AP.

Thanks. Your question was raised in the meeting today.

puding
06-14-2012, 02:34 PM
Thanks. Your question was raised in the meeting today.

Thanks Pappu. Do you mind sharing with us if there was any positive outcome in your meeting.

hpandey
07-07-2012, 02:05 PM
We are meeting USCIS officials in the coming days. If there is a process related issue our members are facing (example massive delays experienced in a service center for a certain application) let us know. We will relay the problems that a lot of our members are experiencing. Last year we helped members with EAD delays. We can take up individual applications and make a request. However for that, the member must be a long term continuous contributor to IV.


I applied for EAD and AP concurrently and got a combo card but unfortunately its only valid till 1 year. On top of that my current EAD is expiring in October. So essentially my new EAD is only valid for 9 months ! This is too much injustice. I am not expecting a GC but at least the EAD should be valid for the time period the fees are paid for. Where did I go wrong and what can I do now ?

Can anyone let me know how to proceed ?

Desertfox
07-07-2012, 07:31 PM
Applied for 4th EAD concurrently AP on 5/2. Received combo card on 7/5. Card valid for 2-years, but lost 2 months because they issued the card from date of approval.

sundarpn
10-09-2012, 09:17 AM
I am 2007 485 filer. Pd of 2006 EB3I. I have had previous EAD's for 2 yr duration.

Recently my attorney applied for EAD & AP together for renewal. What I got was a 1 yr combo card despite that fact that my priority date is even close to being current.

1. Is there anything that can be done about this? (I am not using my EAD and still on
H1)

2. Since my attorney applied, are they the only ones who can contact USCIS?

Thanks

gvenkat
10-09-2012, 10:35 AM
I applied for Combo card. Got for 2 years till the end of 2014. My advice is to file it electronically and send in the supporting docs. Electronically means you are creating your case already and if you send in a note requesting two year validity they process it.

Too many people send paper filing and that seems to be messing things up.

gvenkat
10-09-2012, 10:39 AM
Applied for 4th EAD concurrently AP on 5/2. Received combo card on 7/5. Card valid for 2-years, but lost 2 months because they issued the card from date of approval.

Same here. I lost 2 months Which is ok considering, That they issued you a combo card for 2 years which is a lot more worth than 2 months.

ArkBird
10-09-2012, 12:38 PM
I had very interesting experience with it. Last month, I filed for combo EAD/AP for my wife and somehow forgot to mail the supporting documents but to our surprise, last week we got card in the mail without sending any documents! The picture on the card was the one they took when we went for fingerprinting back in 2007. It also had her fingerprint on it whereas earlier they used to mention "Not Available" in the fingerprint area.

Madhuri
10-09-2012, 01:28 PM
Is it one year or two year combo?

ArkBird
10-09-2012, 02:28 PM
2 Years

pani_6
10-09-2012, 09:02 PM
What to do now..I got one year combo:o