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[gcpool]

Chat User : Namaste, Murthyji. Will the priority date in the EB2
category move this year? If yes, when will it start moving, and how many
months do you anticipate it will move?

Attorney Murthy : The general rule is that there is no certainty or
predictability with respect to movement of priority dates. Mr. Charles
Oppenheim, with whom I shared a panel on Friday, April 20, 2007 at the AILA
Conference in Washington DC, said that, based on input from an attorney at
our law firm and his own investigation and research, he would likely move
the EB2 (and even EB3 dates for China and India) during this summer so that
we would not lose out on 11,000 immigrant visa numbers again this year.

[bhootnath]

Another interesting thing is how casually they are saying "...so that
we would not lose out on 11,000 immigrant visa numbers again this year". Do they have any idea how much people suffered for their inefficiencies in past years when they didn't consume yearly quotas.

Chat User : Namaste, Murthyji. Will the priority date in the EB2
category move this year? If yes, when will it start moving, and how many
months do you anticipate it will move?

Attorney Murthy : The general rule is that there is no certainty or
predictability with respect to movement of priority dates. Mr. Charles
Oppenheim, with whom I shared a panel on Friday, April 20, 2007 at the AILA
Conference in Washington DC, said that, based on input from an attorney at
our law firm and his own investigation and research, he would likely move
the EB2 (and even EB3 dates for China and India) during this summer so that
we would not lose out on 11,000 immigrant visa numbers again this year.

[gc4everwaiting]

This is the efficient USCIS, they take 6 months to renew an EAD that lasts only 12 months. State DMVs are much better than USCIS.

[humdesi]

Long term EB-2 India will retrogress badly - to roughly same level as EB3. I.e. sometime mid or late 2001. It will take 15 - 20 years before recovering to current level.

[nixstor]

Why dont you guys call Charles Oppenheimer's office and get the answer straight if you dont believe the solid foundations you have in Math?

Page 12 Office of Field Support Liaison (CA/VO/F) (http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/82072.pdf)

[sumansk]

With so much going around in immigration...rumours are bound to take place..Nothing can be authenticated unless you hear from the source itself...

Thanks

[rb_248]

The law office of rb & rb that I am going to start predicts that the dates for EB2 will become current when I get my GC.

[manderson]

The law office of rb & rb that I am going to start predicts that the dates for EB2 will become current when I get my GC.

good one:)

[GCard_Dream]

Here we go again... Round 2 :D

[purplehazea]

Show me the money!

[josecuervo]

good one:)
very good one

[yabadaba]

if it stagnates at the month that retrogression happpened...that would be good enuff too....plees move to oct 2005!!!

[rb_248]

if it stagnates at the month that retrogression happpened...that would be good enuff too....plees move to oct 2005!!!

you wish....I think its time for all of us set a time frame to pack our bags.

[gc_seeker_ks]

here is the url of the Murthy chat transcript

http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch042307_P.html

She refers to Mr.Oppenheim twice in the chat session and predicts PD movement ( even for EB3 India and China ). She usually doesn't say that if she is not sure about that. Let's hope that she is right.

[vikki76]

Attorney Murthy : Mr. Oppenheim, the Chief of the Immigrant Visa Processing Control Unit at the U.S. Department of State Visa Office, had mentioned little or no movement in EB3 cases from India on February 28th at the AILA Washington, D.C. meeting. Now, on Friday, April 20, 2007 (this past Friday at a panel where I was speaking in Washington, D.C.), he agreed that the EB2 and EB3 numbers may move forward at least during the summer so that immigrant visa numbers would not remain unused like last year. Then the numbers may again retrogress during the fall and go back further, so this would be a window of opportunity to file cases for those whose numbers become current.

[rsayed]

Attorney Murthy : Mr. Oppenheim, the Chief of the Immigrant Visa Processing Control Unit at the U.S. Department of State Visa Office, had mentioned little or no movement in EB3 cases from India on February 28th at the AILA Washington, D.C. meeting. Now, on Friday, April 20, 2007 (this past Friday at a panel where I was speaking in Washington, D.C.), he agreed that the EB2 and EB3 numbers may move forward at least during the summer so that immigrant visa numbers would not remain unused like last year. Then the numbers may again retrogress during the fall and go back further, so this would be a window of opportunity to file cases for those whose numbers become current.

So, basically for folks whose PD is 2006/07 - they will probably get their GCs' when their kids' start going to college - until then, just keep renewing your H-1Bs'.

[rp0lol]

Not sure you can even do this (H1 renewal)with Current Bill S.761 and AMDT. 963

So, basically for folks whose PD is 2006/07 - they will probably get their GCs' when their kids' start going to college - until then, just keep renewing your H-1Bs'.

[Madhuri]

All this is so depressing. I will also loose my canadian PR if I do not go there by Aug 2007(landed in Aug 2004).

[humdesi]

Even for Indians with PD 2003, 2004.

If your kids are born in the US, they will be able to sponsor your GC through family based visa when they turn 21.

So, basically for folks whose PD is 2006/07 - they will probably get their GCs' when their kids' start going to college - until then, just keep renewing your H-1Bs'.

[rb_248]

Even for Indians with PD 2003, 2004.

If your kids are born in the US, they will be able to sponsor your GC through family based visa when they turn 21.


So, to get GC y'all should get married first, If you are married, you must have a baby. if you have a baby born in the U.S., then wait for 21 years. If you have babies not born in U.S., you must have another baby.

The date of birth of your baby born in the U.S. is your PD.

[sbabunle]

I like it rb_248.
Add to it "OR unmarried may marry US citizen. "



So, to get GC y'all should get married first, If you are married, you must have a baby. if you have a baby born in the U.S., then wait for 21 years. If you have babies not born in U.S., you must have another baby.

The date of birth of your baby born in the U.S. is your PD.

[payur]

you will be retired by then:):)

So, to get GC y'all should get married first, If you are married, you must have a baby. if you have a baby born in the U.S., then wait for 21 years. If you have babies not born in U.S., you must have another baby.

The date of birth of your baby born in the U.S. is your PD.

[rb_248]

I like it rb_248.
Add to it "OR unmarried may marry US citizen. "

For that matter, marry any one who is not from the retrogressed countries and use cross-chargability. Works very well for EB2.

[gc03]

That's true. Then you end up standing in line to be processed and You end up in resting ... by the time you get your GC. :D
Even for Indians with PD 2003, 2004.

If your kids are born in the US, they will be able to sponsor your GC through family based visa when they turn 21.

[Gravitation]

Even for Indians with PD 2003, 2004.

If your kids are born in the US, they will be able to sponsor your GC through family based visa when they turn 21.
Damn! I can't refuse my son any cookies, in case he takes revenge later by not sponsoring my family based GC. I'll then be relegated to the backwaters of Canada, you know the thing that's up there in north somewhere.

[h1techSlave]

Even for Indians with PD 2003, 2004.

If your kids are born in the US, they will be able to sponsor your GC through family based visa when they turn 21.

A faster, but may not be easier strategy is to adopt a kid (below 18, I guess) who is an American citizen. Then when he/she turns 21, he/she can sponsor you.

Cheers,
h1techSlave

[petronut]

Damn! I can't refuse my son any cookies, in case he takes revenge later by not sponsoring my family based GC.
My son is turning 2 tomorrow. He is already showing signs of terrible 2 on him such as sit-up and roll-over strike. I will have to tolerate all these and keep my fingers crossed in the hope that he can agree to sponsor me when he is 21.

[eb3India]

Here you go,

http://www.murthy.com/bulletin.html

seems like this comes from Horse mouth, few interesting to note is they accecpted wasting around 11k visa and DOL artificial demand increase,

[GotGC??]

Here you go,

http://www.murthy.com/bulletin.html

seems like this comes from Horse mouth, few interesting to note is they accecpted wasting around 11k visa and DOL artificial demand increase,

Nothing new here...quoted almost verbatim from the latest VB.

[vikki76]

We lost 11,000 visas.Cool!.
Nobody is holding USCIS accountable.11,000 means approx 5200 people could have filed their 485's.
Of course, USCIS doesn't care about these 5200 people.I have met only one person who is waiting for his labor to come since 2001.Rest all are from 2004 onwards.

[pawnrule]

I can see why it can be challenging to predict how many rest of world (ROW) applications they will get. So USCIS will work with DOL to try to predict the expected demand based on labor applications. For whatever reason this demand did not pan out.

I am not trying to defend the agency, but here is where the re-capture provision in the SKIL bill becomes real useful. Apply the unused 11,000 visas from the previous year to this year.

This unused visa numbers also explains why USCIS will move dates forward in the final quarter (i.e. july-sep), as the demand is not seen for these visas. The dates retrogress in October with the start of new year to throttle the flood of applications. I agree that it is painful to see visa numbers wasted when so many lives can be affected by them.

Could they use better statistical methods to predict? Sure they could but it would be too much to expect. ;)

[eb3India]

I can see why it can be challenging to predict how many rest of world (ROW) applications they will get. So USCIS will work with DOL to try to predict the expected demand based on labor applications. For whatever reason this demand did not pan out.


It's really naive to think about capabilites of these organization, they know exactly what they are doing and current retrogression is a deliberate act and has nothing to do with demand,

[chanduv23]

To me it looks like this is heights of capitalism. Throwing carrots at a time when nothing seems to happen.

Our issues are well known and before the flames grow, we can see these carrots getting thrown in a timely manner.

SO basically, from now on, we can see some forward movement (just to show system is still working) , in a timely manner.

Murthy attorney is supposed to be the best attorney in US and her inputs are considered valuble for DOS.

In fact, if Murthy can go out of her "business ways" and support us like Rajiv is doing I think we can achieve more.

Murthy's point is highly valid with how wrong DOS is about anticipated demand. I have 2 old labors approved from previous companies and if DOS is waiting for those numbers to be filled, that won't happen because those employers won't substitute.

If Labor substitution is stopped, all those numbers will also be available.

There must be a cut off date to file 485 if 140 is approved and PD is current. This will also help the cause as employers who simply delay will nto be able to anymore.

[anai]

Murthy attorney is supposed to be the best attorney in US and her inputs are considered valuble for DOS.
.

Murthy's inputs are valuable for DOS? Yes, I can picture it now. The secretary of state calling Murthy (for which Murthy will charge $200 per 20 mins) for her opinion on which way the winds of immigration law blow.

Murthy and her minions charge something like $150-200 (or was it more? I don't remember) for a 20 min phone consult. Contrast this with others: David N (last name withheld, because I am not advertising for anyone) in NYC/NJ will talk at length with you, for free, to disucss your situation before you decide whether to hire him or not. And once you hire him, he will give you his cell number and will return calls on the same day. And he is not an exception. There are many others (Paull H of San Fran and Eoin R of Boston, being other examples), who are genuinely helpful and are good a what they do. And these folks have years of experience; not green young guys looking to get business. So all this drum-banging for Murthy seems very strange.

Don't send me a PM asking for the name/contact of these good lawyers. If a lawyer will not let you interview her/him for free before you hire her, then I'd stay away. You can always find a good one by first calling 4 or 5, describing your case and analyzing their response. It's your money; spend it wisely.

[willgetgc2005]

Anai,

I am seriously looking for a good and responsible Attorney in CA. I have had years of really bad attorney and am completley stressed out and want to change. I know you did not want to send PM. but please if you can PM or Post details about good attorneys. I need to fins an attorny quickly as time is running out.

And, I never considered Murthy. That is the reason I am looking.

Thanks


Murthy's inputs are valuable for DOS? Yes, I can picture it now. The secretary of state calling Murthy (for which Murthy will charge $200 per 20 mins) for her opinion on which way the winds of immigration law blow.

Murthy and her minions charge something like $150-200 (or was it more? I don't remember) for a 20 min phone consult. Contrast this with others: David N (last name withheld, because I am not advertising for anyone) in NYC/NJ will talk at length with you, for free, to disucss your situation before you decide whether to hire him or not. And once you hire him, he will give you his cell number and will return calls on the same day. And he is not an exception. There are many others (Paull H of San Fran and Eoin R of Boston, being other examples), who are genuinely helpful and are good a what they do. And these folks have years of experience; not green young guys looking to get business. So all this drum-banging for Murthy seems very strange.

Don't send me a PM asking for the name/contact of these good lawyers. If a lawyer will not let you interview her/him for free before you hire her, then I'd stay away. You can always find a good one by first calling 4 or 5, describing your case and analyzing their response. It's your money; spend it wisely.

[chanduv23]

I am not praising Murthy. Whatever she is, she makes public appearances and comes on Radio and TV and talk shows. Her firm definitely has that "Marketing edge" and for that reason, she may influence the agencies.

By now we all know how things work here. Moving dates slowly in a timely manner is basically the ploy. It is like throwing some carrots at a bunch of hungry rabbits.

I do totally agree that she belongs to the greeedy and selfish category, but thats how people and things are here. This is capitalism.

[eb3India]

I am not praising Murthy. Whatever she is, she makes public appearances and comes on Radio and TV and talk shows. Her firm definitely has that "Marketing edge" and for that reason, she may influence the agencies.

By now we all know how things work here. Moving dates slowly in a timely manner is basically the ploy. It is like throwing some carrots at a bunch of hungry rabbits.

I do totally agree that she belongs to the greeedy and selfish category, but thats how people and things are here. This is capitalism.

dude when retrogression first hit she celebrated the news by telling EB3 India guys go for bride searching and getting married, she only cares about herself,

now about being good attorney, I really don't think she is the best there are lot of other attorneys out there who are far better then Murthy, she only takes straight forwared cases (most of desi cases are pretty straight forward), I have never seen any complicated cases successfully handled by her

[sumanitha]

Guys,

I think we are diverging from our original point..

Whether Murthy does it or Rajiv does it is not our problem.. If we can achieve it that will be great...

We will come to know in the coming months if Murthy is really speaking the truth or not?

Let us wait patiently as we have done every time...

Good luck..;)

[gc_seeker_ks]

Come on guys, take the positives out of this update. In fact, she mentions that Mr.Oppenheim reviewed this update before it was published. There's got to be truth in that. I don't think she is doing this to win business, I guess she is way beyond that. And, I don't think the DOS consulted them about this, their firm proactively presented their theories and I commend them for that. We all know that all the approvals form DOL are not flowing into USCIS system, so the numbers are just being wasted.

FYI, Ms.Murthy is not my attorney and I'm no way affiliated with their firm.



I agree. Is this the only lawfirm DOS will consult and seek their 'valueable' advice. I am sure Patton Boggs and Immigration voice will have direct access to DOS. But they don't advertise about it.
You are right about lawyers.
There are some that give you their phone numbers and direct emails. I have come across good lawyers that have answered my phone calls and returned my emails the same day. And I totally believe in interviewing a lawyer before hiring. I did that for my own lawyer when I filed my application. And he did not charge me any money for this initial consultation.

Even after hiring, I can ask my lawyer any kind of immigration questions and he answers me without charge. It is so, just because I am his client and he cares for his clients. Some immigration lawyers are after money and scare the clients on immigration matters so that they think this lawyer is good. My sincere advice to them is to look around first before you jump in. Do not make your judgement based on a nice looking website. Get information from everywhere and then decide.

[Gravitation]

We lost 11,000 visas.Cool!.
Nobody is holding USCIS accountable.11,000 means approx 5200 people could have filed their 485's.
Of course, USCIS doesn't care about these 5200 people.I have met only one person who is waiting for his labor to come since 2001.Rest all are from 2004 onwards.

It's obviously a terrible wastage from our point of view. But -like it or not- USCIS is on solid turf here.

The 140,000 visa numbers are the upper limit. The total visas issued cannot exceed this. They are under no obligation to issue that many visa #'s.

Many people refer to these limits as "quota". This is incorrect. Quota implies that these many visas are guaranteed. That's not the case. Even the per country limit in each category (such as 2800 for EB3) is the upper limit, not a quota. Which means if USCIS doesn't issues merely 100 visa #'s for India in EB3 category, it's doing just fine! It may decide not to issue even a single visa and spend that on RoW... no problem (for USCIS).

[bostonqa]

think about it.

I think we are loosing sight of DOS tactics here.
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read between the lines whats ...up and everything's alright.
-Greenday
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they move dates in summer and then retrogress in fall.

whats the average time to process 485 application?
6 months

how long is summer?
3 months

so if one files for 485 in summer he most certainly wont get 485 cleared, but will however pay all the fees to DOS.

questions you need to ask.
Q1.why are the dates stagnant?
Q2.why move the dates now?
Q3.why would they move dates by 1yr?


DOS answers
A1. because they expect lot of cases to be cleared by BEC's
A2. because if they don't move dates now, they risk leaving visa numbers unused.
A3. because they think BEC and USCIS wont have not cleared as many cases as they expected

I think the Real answers are
A1. because they expect lot of cases to be cleared by BEC's, and they don't want to look stupid by making dates unavailable before June.
A2. because if they move dates now nobody is going to get GC in 6 months and they can easily collect INCREASED fees from applicants.
A3. the more number of ppl they can get to file the more fees they can collect.

before you start defending them, think about guys who have PD of Jan 9th 2003 for EB2 India.
let me tell you there are ppl who have PD weeks away from being current.
tell me that DOS can move dates ahead by 1yr in June, but couldn't move 1 day in past 8 months?

[Ramba]

It's obviously a terrible wastage from our point of view. But -like it or not- USCIS is on solid turf here.

The 140,000 visa numbers are the upper limit. The total visas issued cannot exceed this. They are under no obligation to issue that many visa #'s.

Many people refer to these limits as "quota". This is incorrect. Quota implies that these many visas are guaranteed. That's not the case. Even the per country limit in each category (such as 2800 for EB3) is the upper limit, not a quota. Which means if USCIS doesn't issues merely 100 visa #'s for India in EB3 category, it's doing just fine! It may decide not to issue even a single visa and spend that on RoW... no problem (for USCIS).

Good Point. However, there is a phenominon called "customer service". One can not collect the fee and deny the service on time.

[rsayed]

Good Point. However, there is a phenominon called "customer service". One can not collect the fee and deny the service on time.

Hah! I'll say that again - Hah!

What you say, is how it should be in an ideal world. Reality is something entirely different.

[chanduv23]

think about it.

I think we are loosing sight of DOS tactics here.
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read between the lines whats ...up and everything's alright.
-Greenday
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they move dates in summer and then retrogress in fall.

whats the average time to process 485 application?
6 months

how long is summer?
3 months

so if one files for 485 in summer he most certainly wont get 485 cleared, but will however pay all the fees to DOS.

questions you need to ask.
Q1.why are the dates stagnant?
Q2.why move the dates now?
Q3.why would they move dates by 1yr?


DOS answers
A1. because they expect lot of cases to be cleared by BEC's
A2. because if they don't move dates now, they risk leaving visa numbers unused.
A3. because they think BEC and USCIS wont have not cleared as many cases as they expected

Real answers
A1. because they expect lot of cases to be cleared by BEC's, and they don't want to look stupid by making dates unavailable before June.
A2. because if they move dates now nobody is going to get GC in 6 months and they can easily collect INCREASED fees from applicants.
A3. the more number of ppl they can get to file the more fees they can collect.

before you start defending them, think about guys who have PD of Jan 9th 2003 for EB2 India.
let me tell you there are ppl who have PD weeks away from being current.
tell me that DOS can move dates ahead by 1yr in June, but couldn't move 1 day in past 8 months?

This is what I mean by throwing carrots. Most immigrants have the habit of blaming lawyers for their practices, blaming employers for exploiting, blaming fellow immigrants for breaking law etc.. but when we see DOS playing this game, we do not acknowledge it. We get angry with the "Messsenger". Our anger is directed towards Murthy rather than DOS just because she was a messenger.

Yes, caps are just upper limits, there is no hard and fast rule. Our issues and plight are known. They are using a "throw some carrrots in equal intervals mechanism" , I am sure they also know how many applications from India and China are pending. Like I already said earlier, retrogression is being used to do cleanups in system and tighten the system. Retrogression is basically to make the lives harder and to clean up mess.

I now have a feeling that the number of applications that can be processed from China and India is not in 300 K or so, but well within 100k, because not all H1bs apply for GCs. Something DOS knows and will slow drag the process.

[jaihind]

I observe - of late janakp has been consistently posting totally negative commnest on every thing. I agree all of us are frustrated by this PD monster and the blackhole called 485 - but that is no reason to go totally negative.

Pleasse brothers - all you keep the cheer up and desist or minimize negative and whining posts....plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I CONTRIBUTED A ONE TIME $50 AND NOW AM DOING A MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION OF $20 FROM dEC 2006.

[yabadaba]

I observe - of late janakp has been consistently posting totally negative commnest on every thing. I agree all of us are frustrated by this PD monster and the blackhole called 485 - but that is no reason to go totally negative.

Pleasse brothers - all you keep the cheer up and desist or minimize negative and whining posts....plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I CONTRIBUTED A ONE TIME $50 AND NOW AM DOING A MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION OF $20 FROM dEC 2006.

its better to just ignore him...the more attention we call to people like him the more issues he creates.

where do ppl think the dates are going to advance to?

on the flip side... even if they advance the dates now and retrogress in the fall, many ppl will be eligible to file ap/ead and at least start with the whole security check thing

[ramaonline]

According to the latest bulletin on murthy.com, the cutoff dates will move for India and China in the June / July visa bulletin.Attorneys Murthy and Finkelstein spoke with Mr. Oppenheim on February 28, 2007 at an AILA meeting. Mr. Finkelstein pointed out that, based on our firm's experience it appeared that the DOL figures were exaggerated. One of these reasons was that the DOL's Backlog Processing Centers (BPCs) were to be processing cases in a First-In / First-Out (FIFO) order. Thus, they already have processed many of the older cases with earlier priority dates. These older cases have already made their way into the USCIS system, if the employers are intending to move forward with their respective cases. Additionally, many of the BPC cases are not moving forward to the USCIS, even after approval from DOL. Although the BPC sent out 45-day continuation letters to determine ongoing employer interest, many employers are no longer interested, given the lengthy delays in the DOL processing of cases. Many of the employees have moved on to other job opportunities. Thus, it is not appropriate to look at the number of cases in the BPCs and assume that each translates to a demand for a visa number in the near future. The ratio is actually fairly small for the cases that are being approved at this time.

[GotGC??]

where do ppl think the dates are going to advance to?


Please...don't get the hopes too high...

From where I come from, there's a folk-saying which roughly translates to "Getting naked before seeing the river" :)

[GCard_Dream]

You are absolutely right. Couldn't agree more. It's very unfortunate, however, that we have to resort to this.

its better to just ignore him...the more attention we call to people like him the more issues he creates.

[a_yaja]

Real answers
A1. because they expect lot of cases to be cleared by BEC's, and they don't want to look stupid by making dates unavailable before June.
A2. because if they move dates now nobody is going to get GC in 6 months and they can easily collect INCREASED fees from applicants.
A3. the more number of ppl they can get to file the more fees they can collect.


Is this your opinion or do youo have proof to back it up? While I am mighty
p1$$3d that 11K visas went down the drain last yr - I do not for a minute agree with you that USCIS is out to milk us for our money. If you have proof to validate your comments above - please post links. If it is your opinion only - please say so. Don't make it look like your opinion is the real situation.

[bostonqa]

Is this your opinion or do youo have proof to back it up? While I am mighty
p1$$3d that 11K visas went down the drain last yr - I do not for a minute agree with you that USCIS is out to milk us for our money. If you have proof to validate your comments above - please post links. If it is your opinion only - please say so. Don't make it look like your opinion is the real situation.

my apologies.
for a second I felt like moses... :)

I have updated my main post accordingly.

[sbabunle]

My opinion is that:

There are NOT any reasons to get too much excited about this. Probably some people who are on the edge of PD barrier may get benefited. I think if your PD is 6 months or later than the present PD, there is not much to cheer on this thing. It would be tougher for India and china because of per country cap.

If 11K visa's are wasted, can we sue them?

thx
babu/

[andy garcia]

My opinion is that:

There are NOT any reasons to get too much excited about this. Probably some people who are on the edge of PD barrier may get benefited. I think if your PD is 6 months or later than the present PD, there is not much to cheer on this thing. It would be tougher for India and china because of per country cap.

If 11K visa's are wasted, can we sue them?

thx
babu/

You cannot sue anybody.

The 140,000 visa numbers are the upper limit. The total visas issued cannot exceed this. They are under no obligation to issue that many visa #'s.

Many people refer to these limits as "quota". This is incorrect.

[tdasara]

Yeah right!!

The visa numbers will open up only when USCIS fee increase goes thru!..

Which likely is June or July.

$$$$$$$$$

[tdasara]

How will USCIS raise money when its self funded and over 200k people can't even apply!!

DOn't be surprised if things stay current for 2 months and USCIS accepts tonnes of applications making billions of $$$$

[yabadaba]

so what is the general consensus? the dates will be current strt away or will they move by a year/ or by a few months?

maybe we need to restart a bulletin prediction thread

[GCard_Dream]

Let's assume that USCIS is moving (or will move) PDs in order to collect increased fee. Even if that were true, I don't see any problem with that at all. If you can file your 485 for the extra few hundred dollars, I don't think anyone is going to complain.

Being able to file 485 without current PD has been an IV goal for a long time and if USCIS is offering you that for a few hundred bucks, take it. The benefits of being able to file 485 certainly outweighs the cost of few hundred dollars.

[GCard_Dream]

There has been some indications (from USCIS itself and from other lawyers) that there may be some movement in PDs in the current fiscal year. Most of the time USCIS has been very vague in their PD movement prediction that you can barely make out anything. This time around, I have a feeling (not that my feeling really dictates any PD movement :D) that we'll see some movement throughout this fiscal year. I guess we'll know in about couple of weeks if it's true. Keep your fingers crossed.

so what is the general consensus? the dates will be current strt away or will they move by a year/ or by a few months?

maybe we need to restart a bulletin prediction thread

[waitingGC]

There has been some indications (from USCIS itself and from other lawyers) that there may be some movement in PDs in the current fiscal year. Most of the time USCIS has been very vague in their PD movement prediction that you can barely make out anything. This time around, I have a feeling (not that my feeling really dictates any PD movement :D) that we'll see some movement throughout this fiscal year. I guess we'll know in about couple of weeks if it's true. Keep your fingers crossed.

I sure hope you are right.

[greatguy]

after a year of keeping the 485 aspirants in a limbo, they have started explicitly telling not to expect movements in the near future. We are taking their explicit note as a sign that dates will start moving.

classic case of hearing what we want to hear

[sampath]

this has to be true.

http://www.murthy.com/news/n_mtavis.html

[rsayed]

There has been some indications (from USCIS itself and from other lawyers) that there may be some movement in PDs in the current fiscal year. Most of the time USCIS has been very vague in their PD movement prediction that you can barely make out anything. This time around, I have a feeling (not that my feeling really dictates any PD movement :D) that we'll see some movement throughout this fiscal year. I guess we'll know in about couple of weeks if it's true. Keep your fingers crossed.

You may be right (and I sure as hell hope so) - but I'm afraid, after the initial movement of dates, I think it will retrogress further during Fall or Winter of '07.

Atleast that's what Murthy says in her Bulletin.

[iwantgc]

Great news from Murthy.com brings hope to everyone like us. See below:

http://www.murthy.com/news/n_mtavis.html

Murthy Takes Action :
Visa Number Movement Expected for India and China
Posted Apr 27, 2007
©MurthyDotCom
MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers learned that the Visa Bulletin for May 2007 carried a glimmer of hope for stagnant EB categories in our April 20, 2007 article, May 2007: EB3 Movement, Not for China, India or Mexico. On April 20, 2007, Sheela Murthy spoke on an immigration visa panel with Mr. Charles Oppenheim, Chief Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting Division, Department of State Visa Office, at an American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) Conference. After the panel, Mr. Oppenheim discussed the future of visa numbers with Ms. Murthy. He acknowledged that an earlier dialogue during a previous DC AILA Chapter meeting with Attorneys Sheela Murthy and Aron Finkelstein, also of the Murthy Law Firm, had played an important part in ensuing discussions with other government agencies as to the factors impacting the use of Employment immigrant visa numbers during the summer months. Through his deliberations with the U.S. Dept of Labor and the USCIS, Mr. Oppenheim determined that it was appropriate to release some additional visa numbers by moving some of the May cut-off dates, and that movement for India and China is likely to occur, possibly as early as June or July 2007! On April 26, 2007, Mr. Oppenheim confirmed and reviewed this MurthyBulletin article with Attorney Murthy personally once again to ensure its accuracy with respect to the various discussions with the Murthy Law Firm and his estimates on the movement of worldwide immigrant visa numbers.
©MurthyDotCom
Visa Numbers Based on Demand
©MurthyDotCom
As regular MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers know, visa number movement is based upon a number of variables, one of which is the amount of expected demand. [The U.S. Department of State's Visa Bulletin chart is always available on MurthyDotCom.] The U.S. Department of State (DOS) must estimate this demand when it determines what cutoff dates, if any, to establish in the monthly Visa Bulletin. If the demand which DOS has anticipated does not materialize, it is possible that visa numbers will go unused. When asked, Mr. Oppenheim mentioned that this did happen last year and resulted in about 11,000 immigrant visa numbers not being used last fiscal year.
©MurthyDotCom
Demand Overestimated : Our Input
©MurthyDotCom
Attorneys Murthy and Finkelstein spoke with Mr. Oppenheim on February 28, 2007 at an AILA meeting. Mr. Finkelstein pointed out that, based on our firm's experience it appeared that the DOL figures were exaggerated. One of these reasons was that the DOL's Backlog Processing Centers (BPCs) were to be processing cases in a First-In / First-Out (FIFO) order. Thus, they already have processed many of the older cases with earlier priority dates. These older cases have already made their way into the USCIS system, if the employers are intending to move forward with their respective cases.
©MurthyDotCom
Additionally, many of the BPC cases are not moving forward to the USCIS, even after approval from DOL. Although the BPC sent out 45-day continuation letters to determine ongoing employer interest, many employers are no longer interested, given the lengthy delays in the DOL processing of cases. Many of the employees have moved on to other job opportunities. Thus, it is not appropriate to look at the number of cases in the BPCs and assume that each translates to a demand for a visa number in the near future. The ratio is actually fairly small for the cases that are being approved at this time.
©MurthyDotCom
Also discussed was the possibility that the labor substitution process will end in the near future. This would reduce some of the demand for visa numbers and the use of older priority dates. Without substitution, many of the older cases will simply be abandoned because the employers will not continue to sponsor the original beneficiaries for any number of reasons.
©MurthyDotCom
Expectations
©MurthyDotCom
Based upon these discussions, we expect some movement for India and China as early as the June or July 2007 Visa Bulletin. We do not have indications of how far forward the dates will move. The Visa Bulletin for June 2007 would usually be issued around the middle of May. We believe that any movements could impact both EB2 and EB3 petitions at some point. For now, people should continue as usual. Anyone eligible to file the I-140 petition, should likely do so. S/he should continue to extend his or her nonimmigrant status and not make any assumptions about the ability to file the I-485.
©MurthyDotCom
We would also note that, while forward movement is expected for the summer in 2007, it is also expected that the cutoff dates could move further back during the fall of 2007. Therefore, those who benefit by the movement need to take advantage of it while they can.
©MurthyDotCom
Flexibility of DOS Visa Office is Appreciated
©MurthyDotCom
We at the Murthy Law Firm extend our most sincere appreciation and thanks to Charles Oppenheim for considering our input and verifying our theories. We know that each visa number represents an individual with potential benefits flowing to all family members. We know that wasting even a single visa number means that an employer's needs go unmet and a person's dreams go unfulfilled. While we think it is abundantly clear that more visa numbers are needed, we are very pleased that the DOS Visa Office has determined that the cutoff dates will likely be shifted forward in an effort to avoid wasting visa numbers this year.

[rsayed]

Great news from Murthy.com brings hope to everyone like us. See below:

http://www.murthy.com/news/n_mtavis.html

Murthy Takes Action :
Visa Number Movement Expected for India and China
Posted Apr 27, 2007
©MurthyDotCom
MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers learned that the Visa Bulletin for May 2007 carried a glimmer of hope for stagnant EB categories in our April 20, 2007 article, May 2007: EB3 Movement, Not for China, India or Mexico. On April 20, 2007, Sheela Murthy spoke on an immigration visa panel with Mr. Charles Oppenheim, Chief Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting Division, Department of State Visa Office, at an American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) Conference. After the panel, Mr. Oppenheim discussed the future of visa numbers with Ms. Murthy. He acknowledged that an earlier dialogue during a previous DC AILA Chapter meeting with Attorneys Sheela Murthy and Aron Finkelstein, also of the Murthy Law Firm, had played an important part in ensuing discussions with other government agencies as to the factors impacting the use of Employment immigrant visa numbers during the summer months. Through his deliberations with the U.S. Dept of Labor and the USCIS, Mr. Oppenheim determined that it was appropriate to release some additional visa numbers by moving some of the May cut-off dates, and that movement for India and China is likely to occur, possibly as early as June or July 2007! On April 26, 2007, Mr. Oppenheim confirmed and reviewed this MurthyBulletin article with Attorney Murthy personally once again to ensure its accuracy with respect to the various discussions with the Murthy Law Firm and his estimates on the movement of worldwide immigrant visa numbers.
©MurthyDotCom
Visa Numbers Based on Demand
©MurthyDotCom
As regular MurthyDotCom and MurthyBulletin readers know, visa number movement is based upon a number of variables, one of which is the amount of expected demand. [The U.S. Department of State's Visa Bulletin chart is always available on MurthyDotCom.] The U.S. Department of State (DOS) must estimate this demand when it determines what cutoff dates, if any, to establish in the monthly Visa Bulletin. If the demand which DOS has anticipated does not materialize, it is possible that visa numbers will go unused. When asked, Mr. Oppenheim mentioned that this did happen last year and resulted in about 11,000 immigrant visa numbers not being used last fiscal year.
©MurthyDotCom
Demand Overestimated : Our Input
©MurthyDotCom
Attorneys Murthy and Finkelstein spoke with Mr. Oppenheim on February 28, 2007 at an AILA meeting. Mr. Finkelstein pointed out that, based on our firm's experience it appeared that the DOL figures were exaggerated. One of these reasons was that the DOL's Backlog Processing Centers (BPCs) were to be processing cases in a First-In / First-Out (FIFO) order. Thus, they already have processed many of the older cases with earlier priority dates. These older cases have already made their way into the USCIS system, if the employers are intending to move forward with their respective cases.
©MurthyDotCom
Additionally, many of the BPC cases are not moving forward to the USCIS, even after approval from DOL. Although the BPC sent out 45-day continuation letters to determine ongoing employer interest, many employers are no longer interested, given the lengthy delays in the DOL processing of cases. Many of the employees have moved on to other job opportunities. Thus, it is not appropriate to look at the number of cases in the BPCs and assume that each translates to a demand for a visa number in the near future. The ratio is actually fairly small for the cases that are being approved at this time.
©MurthyDotCom
Also discussed was the possibility that the labor substitution process will end in the near future. This would reduce some of the demand for visa numbers and the use of older priority dates. Without substitution, many of the older cases will simply be abandoned because the employers will not continue to sponsor the original beneficiaries for any number of reasons.
©MurthyDotCom
Expectations
©MurthyDotCom
Based upon these discussions, we expect some movement for India and China as early as the June or July 2007 Visa Bulletin. We do not have indications of how far forward the dates will move. The Visa Bulletin for June 2007 would usually be issued around the middle of May. We believe that any movements could impact both EB2 and EB3 petitions at some point. For now, people should continue as usual. Anyone eligible to file the I-140 petition, should likely do so. S/he should continue to extend his or her nonimmigrant status and not make any assumptions about the ability to file the I-485.
©MurthyDotCom
We would also note that, while forward movement is expected for the summer in 2007, it is also expected that the cutoff dates could move further back during the fall of 2007. Therefore, those who benefit by the movement need to take advantage of it while they can.
©MurthyDotCom
Flexibility of DOS Visa Office is Appreciated
©MurthyDotCom
We at the Murthy Law Firm extend our most sincere appreciation and thanks to Charles Oppenheim for considering our input and verifying our theories. We know that each visa number represents an individual with potential benefits flowing to all family members. We know that wasting even a single visa number means that an employer's needs go unmet and a person's dreams go unfulfilled. While we think it is abundantly clear that more visa numbers are needed, we are very pleased that the DOS Visa Office has determined that the cutoff dates will likely be shifted forward in an effort to avoid wasting visa numbers this year.


This has been discussed in other posts - the headline suggests that "Ms.Murthy" is taking action. This is wrong - She had this conversation with Oppenheim and he revealed his predictions to her. That's about it.

Whether this will really happen - is anybody's guess. Even if it does, Ms.Murthy does mention in her Bulletin, that Mr.Oppenheim has also said that there may be a chance that PDs' might retrogress during Fall '07 - which ofcourse, is bad news.

[53885]

All this is so depressing. I will also loose my canadian PR if I do not go there by Aug 2007(landed in Aug 2004).

Go to Canada, get citizenship and by the time you come back we all still be waiting for visa numbers availability.

[53885]

so what is the general consensus? the dates will be current strt away or will they move by a year/ or by a few months?

maybe we need to restart a bulletin prediction thread

With current 7% country rule and 28% for each of EB1, EB2 and EB3 quota only 4200 indian families/year can get green card.
With more than 300,000 indian families having started green card process in last 5 years it will be anyone guess when all of them will be eligible. chinese families may not be too behind with about 200,000.
With PD of 2006 I am looking beyond 2 decades.

[GC08]

All those optimistic predictions must be taken with a grain of salt. Otherwise, how did we get into such a big mess! I definitely have any trust in those beaucrats ... laywers, employers included.

Look at I140 in NSC... it has not moved for months! It only indicats a lot of people are coming through the backlog centers and now they are in I140. These people will then go to I485... not alone but with spouses and kids. In addition to these, there is still labor substitution and change of categories. And hopefully you would not get laid off if the economy slows. Oh, what about H1B renewal? You will be able to get it right?

With all these, when do you think you will get your green cards, esp. if you are one of those who are in line for ever and play by the rules? :rolleyes:

[53885]

Oh, do you suggest that I should anticipate 3 decades instead of 2?

All those optimistic predictions must be taken with a grain of salt. Otherwise, how did we get into such a big mess! I definitely have any trust in those beaucrats ... laywers, employers included.

Look at I140 in NSC... it has not moved for months! It only indicats a lot of people are coming through the backlog centers and now they are in I140. These people will then go to I485... not alone but with spouses and kids. In addition to these, there is still labor substitution and change of categories. And hopefully you would not get laid off if the economy slows. Oh, what about H1B renewal? You will be able to get it right?

With all these, when do you think you will get your green cards, esp. if you are one of those who are in line for ever and play by the rules? :rolleyes:

[apnair2002]

Oh, do you suggest that I should anticipate 3 decades instead of 2?

If the pd moves little bit .. atleast people can file 485 and file for EAD... I expect maximum of one year movement we can predicit.. Now EB3 India is MAY 2001. It will move maximum for 1 year. which will not help for most of us.

[mallu]

The visa number depletes once the applications are approved. But many Indian applicants ( with PD 2001,2002 etc ) are stuck in namecheck ( and take more than 1 - 2 years to clear ), so the visa numbers go wasted.

[apnair2002]

I think may be less than 20% of the cases struck in name check .. Not all the cases... That is why I am expecting it will not move more than 1 year.

[whattodo]

I know we hate threads like this but Murthy (http://murthy.com/news/n_mtavis.html) predicts there is going to some movement in June Vista bulletin for EB2 India and China. How big do you think the movement would be?

[babuworld]

Max one week or there will be no movement.

[vsoni]

The reality

http://www.murthy.com/visadate.html

[amslonewolf]

My two cents - I agree that there would be no movement. The logical order would be, Publish the final Labor Sub Ban ruling in the fed register. I am sure USCIS, would want to wait, 30 + 45 = 75 days to get a final sense of what the demand would be. Then they would be in a very good position to estimate the demand. So, though we want to see the priority dates move, realistically, it could be 3 months before we see any movement. I have a PD of May 2002 in EB3 India. So I would be very happy to see this prediction wrong!!

That's the reality, but I desperately want the priority dates move, just like most of us..

[h1techSlave]

Sorry to disappoint every one in here, but I think EB2/EB3 for India/China would not move much unless there is a change in law. But the cut-off dates for ROW and Philippines would move forward drastically.

Why? Because the US urgently need Nurses from the Philippines, and the Nurses do not come here with out a GC, unlike we folks. We are already here and are silently working with out a GC. So the US businesses have no particular incentive to give us GCs. Giving us GCs may be the right thing to do, it may also be good for American competitiveness, but it is not a wise business decision.

Wasn’t this the same thing that we have witnessed in April visa bulletin?

Cheers,
h1techSlave

[waitingGC]

I don't think the VB will move forward in the coming months. I am even more doubtful whether the capital hill will pass the immigration law this year. I hope I am wrong! I am just three months away from the current China EB2 PD.

[rb_248]

Just after reading 2 paragraphs from murthy's website, we all have started predicting VB. Some optimistic and some pessimistic predictions. My question is
how credible have they been in the past as far as predicting retrogression is concerned?

[humdesi]

With labor sub banned, EB-3 India should move forward. Remember how ROW moved? With EB3 to EB2 conversion, EB-2 India will retrogress by 1 year and remain there for next 15 years.

[h1techSlave]

With labor sub banned, EB-3 India should move forward. Remember how ROW moved? With EB3 to EB2 conversion, EB-2 India will retrogress by 1 year and remain there for next 15 years.

I am in the EB3 category. I was thinking of convincing my employer to file another labor for me in EB2 and use the old priority date. With your suggestion of a retrogression in EB2, may be I will wait.

Cheers,
h1techSlave

[vxg]

I am in the EB3 category. I was thinking of convincing my employer to file another labor for me in EB2 and use the old priority date. With your suggestion of a retrogression in EB2, may be I will wait.

Cheers,
h1techSlave
It is not wise to base professional decisons on a suggestion posted in a forum. No one knows what will happen in 15 years or even in the next visa bulletin so do what is best for you.

[sanju_eb3]

Why labor substitution regulation would only help EB-3 India? I think it would help both EB-3 and EB-2 India. Also, not everyone is doing EB3 to EB2 conversion.

As far as ROW is concerned, it's different story. EB-2 ROW is already current. Therefore only movement possible was on EB-3 ROW.

Then again, even USISC does not know the total visa numbers. Yet when they know the numbers, they do not act rationally (like wasting 11,000 visas’ last year). Hence, everything here about forward and backward movement is mere speculations.



With labor sub banned, EB-3 India should move forward. Remember how ROW moved? With EB3 to EB2 conversion, EB-2 India will retrogress by 1 year and remain there for next 15 years.

[gc4me]

I think, EB3 India will not move. Don't get me wrong. I think India has already used up almost entire 7% of its allocated EB3 visa.
I believe ROW EB3 might move further.
Here is the reason.
01. Many ROW EB3 with earlier PD who were stuck in BEC has converted them to EB2 and already filled their 485 which is current for ROW.
02. Before the date (Feb’ 2005) when all LCs were moved to BEC, ROW was current. So ROW people who got their LC cleared before that day (Feb 2005) were able to file 485. (Remember EB3 India was Mar 2002)
03. These are my 2 cents. Please don’t take it as guaranteed.


I don't think the VB will move forward in the coming months. I am even more doubtful whether the capital hill will pass the immigration law this year. I hope I am wrong! I am just three months away from the current China EB2 PD.

[mohitkjoshi]

This is really an issue where IV can take up a stand. Can they lobby for rolling over those wasted 11000 visa numbers? Most legal immigrants do not understand that Law Firms can't do anything. They just go to Murthy.com and check the latest news thinking that Murthy is their only hope, not realizing that lawyers just follow law, lawyers don't change law.

If IV can divert all that web traffic that goes to Law firms to itself, and if those people contribute even 5$, that would be a huge help. And most of them will, if they realize they can help themselves.

One problem with IV is that forums are not moderated, so people have to read through junk to get real information. The other is that people do not know about it. Almost every one I know knows about murthy, but no one knows about IV.

[greatguy]

My EB3 Priority Date is Sept 2001, India; just 4 months away.

We had decided to move on, going by the visa bulletin note that it could take years to get to this date. This murthy note offers a glimmer of hope and has put us in a huge dilemma on whether to move on or wait.

[dionysus]

Chat User : Namaste, Murthyji. Will the priority date in the EB2
category move this year? If yes, when will it start moving, and how many
months do you anticipate it will move?

Attorney Murthy : The general rule is that there is no certainty or
predictability with respect to movement of priority dates. Mr. Charles
Oppenheim, with whom I shared a panel on Friday, April 20, 2007 at the AILA
Conference in Washington DC, said that, based on input from an attorney at
our law firm and his own investigation and research, he would likely move
the EB2 (and even EB3 dates for China and India) during this summer so that
we would not lose out on 11,000 immigrant visa numbers again this year.


This is revolting!! I spent the entire last year morosely reading visa bulletins and sighing helplessly, and now Mr. Oppenheim informs us helpfully that he just wasted 11 thousand visa numbers last years. Mesmerising!

This is criminal. Mr. Oppenheim should not be invited to conferences and panels. Mr. Oppenheim should be fired. Mr. Oppenheim should be jailed.

If he has even a bit of decency, he would allow 11 thousand extra GC seekers to file their 485s over the planned numbers. The actual allotment of GCs for these people can be dispersed over the years in such way that they would still be able to comply with the per-country-per-year limit.

Does AILA have the guts to tell this much to Mr. Oppenheim on the face?

[stuckinmuck]

Friends, I got an interesting perspective from a local immigration lawyer here.
I told her that legal immigration is hostage to the illegal immigration issue and it's very frustrating.
She said that the main issue is not legal versus illegal at all.
The fact is that most members of congress are strongly against 'any' kind of immigration (especially from non-European nations) so to think that we as legal immigrants (from non-European nations) are in way different from illegal immigrants (guess from where) is fooling ourselves.

It was a very eye-opening perspective and makes one sad to believe that racism rules politics in this case. Anyway, am sending out emails to senators and doing my part.

[franklin]

Friends, I got an interesting perspective from a local immigration lawyer here.
I told her that legal immigration is hostage to the illegal immigration issue and it's very frustrating.
She said that the main issue is not legal versus illegal at all.
The fact is that most members of congress are strongly against 'any' kind of immigration (especially from non-European nations) so to think that we as legal immigrants (from non-European nations) are in way different from illegal immigrants (guess from where) is fooling ourselves.

It was a very eye-opening perspective and makes one sad to believe that racism rules politics in this case. Anyway, am sending out emails to senators and doing my part.

If we have to play the game this way - we should encourage more european members to represent the cause.

[anirudh74]

This is revolting!! I spent the entire last year morosely reading visa bulletins and sighing helplessly, and now Mr. Oppenheim informs us helpfully that he just wasted 11 thousand visa numbers last years. Mesmerising!

This is criminal. Mr. Oppenheim should not be invited to conferences and panels. Mr. Oppenheim should be fired. Mr. Oppenheim should be jailed.

If he has even a bit of decency, he would allow 11 thousand extra GC seekers to file their 485s over the planned numbers. The actual allotment of GCs for these people can be dispersed over the years in such way that they would still be able to comply with the per-country-per-year limit.

Does AILA have the guts to tell this much to Mr. Oppenheim on the face?




I agree with you this is f****** ridiculous.While our lives were burning this Mr. Oppenheim was playing the flute....

[liorsal]

what you guys think is going to happen with EB-3 ROR in the near future?

[nomi]

I hope June visa Bulletin will be out by this friday...Let`s hope it will bring good news for all of us....What do you guys think ??

[vgc]

Please change the title of this thread...

[ksircar]

I hope June visa Bulletin will be out by this friday...Let`s hope it will bring good news for all of us....What do you guys think ??

Keep up your good work of hope it will bring good news for all of us.

Best of luck.

[luckylavs]

It is going to be another disappointing Bulletin to watch.


I hope June visa Bulletin will be out by this friday...Let`s hope it will bring good news for all of us....What do you guys think ??

[vejella]

He might know how VB comes :D

[hemasar]

EB2 - Jan 2004
EB3 - May 2002
??????

[Lasantha]

All I can say is that since last month the Visa Bulletin is geting exciting again. I hope the trend will continue!

[apnair2002]

:D He might know how VB comes :D Contact Ajmeer Baba


Quote of the day

[sunofeast_gc]

EB2 - Jan 2005
EB3 - May 2003

[nomi]

Rest of the World EB3 = Sept. 2004

[judex]

eb3 philippines > will move a minimum of 2 months, 6 months max... i'll cross my fingers on this... :D

hope VB will be out tomorrow...

[waitingGC]

Per our past experience, it is likely that VB will come out today. We can know if Murthy's news regarding VB movements is true. I am highly doubtful.

[coolcat]

Although I don't have big hopes, I kept refreshing the VB page frequently this evening. Hasn't been updated as of 4.10 pm PST.

[drirshad]

Is it out yet ..............

[eb2waiter]

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My name a Borat....

[Eternal_Hope]

Guys,

We are entering crucial times ahead. It is in our best interest right now to contact as many Media outlets as we can to highlight our issues. We have to take things in our own hands and right now is the time to do it. Don't take things lying down - contact the Media this weekend. The link to the AILA website is given below, use it to send emails. It will not take more than 10 minutes.

<Quote Pappu>

http://capwiz.com/aila2/dbq/media/
It has addresses of all newspapers in a particular area. Members can enter their zip code and write to all local newspapers requesting for some media coverage of IV and legal immigration issues.

You can also put zip codes of some major US cities in the tool and get email addresses of various tv stations, radio stations and newspapers.

We are already seeing the impact of this drive. We are beiginiing to get some request for information/expression of interest from reporters. lets keep it going.

</Unquote Pappu>

There are many sample letters available at http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3999.

You can also use the letter given below as a template to create your own letter. Or you can copy/paste this letter. Just remember to add your name.

Dear Sir/Mam,

I am a member of Immigration Voice: The mission of Immigration Voice is to organize grassroots efforts and resources to solve several problems in the employment based green card process.

Skilled workers are a small minority of U.S. legal immigrants. Of the 940,000 legal immigrants in 2004, only 16% were skilled employment-based immigrants. About 40% of these skilled immigrants had advanced degrees, or 5 or more years of experience after a baccalaureate degree. The impact of these workers’ contributions to American competitiveness belies their small number. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn leads to greater productivity growth. Greater productivity growth improves the standard of living for the U.S. population as a whole. Skilled immigrants not only contribute to the innovation process themselves, they also help train our own future innovators, thus ensuring the competitiveness of future generations.

I wanted to bring to your attention the woes of immigrants who are legally here in U.S. Specifically, the high-skilled workers who are experiencing decade-long waits to get Green Cards (the employment based Green Cards). There are approximately half a million such people in U.S. today whose lives are in limbo as they wait to get their Green Cards. I encourage you to visit http://immigrationvoice.org, an organization comprising of such people who are lobbying the Congress to help get some relief urgently.

The focus of immigration reform has solely been on illegal immigration. What is not so well understood is that the fate of legal immigrants has been tied with that of the illegal immigrants (because there is just one bill that the Congress will debate - CIR/STRIVE). It is ironic that if this bill does not pass, legal immigrants would be left hanging in the dark again, even when there is bi-partisan support for their cause!

The waiting times for getting an employment-based (EB) Green Card (GC) are increasing each day for nationals of all countries. But especially hard-hit are people from India and China, whose waiting times are expected to increase to 10-15 years, if the current trend continues. The demand for EB-GC keeps increasing because over the last decade an average of about 100,000 skilled workers have joined the U.S. work-force each year (using H-1B visa, and graduating foreign students), but only 50,000 new employment-based Green Cards are issued. U.S. issues 140,000 EB GC but even family members are counted-off from this quota, which thus effectively reduces to about one-third. Therefore, each year about 50,000 skilled workers join the queue for a Green Card.

Once the wait for a Green Card starts, all major life-decisions are influenced by the Green Card application process. Decisions about traveling abroad, marrying, investing, kids’ education, and changing cities are then based on the stage in which one’s GC application is. The biggest impact of the wait is on the person’s professional career. Once the process starts, changing jobs usually means re-filing for a GC, implying that the person starts from the end of the line again. Even promotions within the same company are not without risks, as any change in job descriptions necessitates refilling the application. So a person waiting for a GC is expected to remain in the same job with the same company and without any substantial increase (or decrease) in pay! The skilled worker therefore lives life in constant limbo.

The psychological impact of being stuck and being treated as less than equal, even while paying all taxes (including SS and Medicare, to which they are not even entitled to without becoming permanent residents) is immense.

Your help in covering the issues of legal immigrants will be highly appreciated.

Please feel free to let me know if I can provide you any further information or clarifications.

Regards,


Member, ImmigrationVoice
http://immigrationvoice.org

[sreekanth]

I have sent E-mail to the following journals in Milwaukee:-
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
The Milwaukee Times Weekly
Riverwest Currents
Sheboygan Press
Shepherd Express Metro

Regards,
Sreekanth

[53885]

Why 5? You could send more. Use browser's back button, check 5 more and use "Remember Me!" checkbox on compose message page to save some time.

I have sent E-mail to the following journals in Milwaukee:-
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
The Milwaukee Times Weekly
Riverwest Currents
Sheboygan Press
Shepherd Express Metro

Regards,
Sreekanth

[hebron]

see link below

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271781,00.html

[munnu77]

Think it shud be out today or tommorow?
Any predictions?

[GCJinx]

Please change the subject to something more meaningful. By looking at the subject I had adrenaline rush and got very upset to see your message

[newbee7]

Please change the subject to something more meaningful. By looking at the subject I had adrenaline rush and got very upset to see your message
I concur!

[Lasantha]

The title is very misleading. Administrators, please delete this thread. thanks

Uh Oh ! Espoir is mad. Better do as he says guys! :D

[rb_248]

Think it shud be out today or tommorow?
Any predictions?

We have a thread for predictions. You could have used that.

[waitingGC]

Think it shud be out today or tommorow?
Any predictions?

Tomorrow. USCIS does not open today.

[sukhyani]

Tomorrow. USCIS does not open today.

I thought it's the State Department that issues Visa Bulletins.

[espoir]

All CHINA- INDIA MEXICO PHILIP-PINES
Charge-ability mainland born
1st C C C C C
2nd C 1-Jan-06 1-Apr-04 C C
3rd 1-Jun-05 1-Jun-03 1-Jun-03 1-Jun-03 1-Jun-05

[EB3Victim]

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html

[mirage]

Guys,

Good news , very good news, but may be only 30% of us. What's for the remaining. Does anybody have any idea what changed so the dates move so much forward. I want to figure out what to do now ? Are the date going to move forward or may be paddle backwards from here ?

Thanks

[sundarpn]

nice new to raise hopes. I guess we'll know about the reasons for this fwd movement soon

Hope it moves further soon!

[shahpurwala]

Ok so I just checked the priority date for EB2 in the June 2007 bulletin. It is 01APR04. My PD (13JAN03) has now become current. Based on your experiences should I just wait and watch or do something proactively?

[shahpurwala]

I have already applied for my I-485. It was received by the Immigration office on 31MAR04. I have been working on EADs since then.

[mrajatish]

You can do nothing - just hope that USCIS approves your case.

[laborchic]

What caused this ??? Does this mean the dates will move fast now onwards.. IV Core team any idea about this?? How come these many Visa numbers are available all of a sudden..

This news is too good to be true... I am sorry to be such paranoid.. :confused:

[ramhs]

does anybody think if eb3-india will move in next months bulletin, and if it does , how long will it take to march 2004. thanks.

[chanduv23]

does anybody think if eb3-india will move in next months bulletin, and if it does , how long will it take to march 2004. thanks.

It is difficult to ascertain a pattern. But will definitely move up if demand is low.

[priderock]

You can do nothing - just hope that USCIS approves your case.


and save money on future EAD renewals :) :)

[priderock]

does anybody think if eb3-india will move in next months bulletin, and if it does , how long will it take to march 2004. thanks.


It is difficult to ascertain a pattern. But will definitely move up if demand is low.

...and move down if demand is high !?!?! :) :)

ramhs , any body else's guess is as good as yours..... Look at the past discussion on this subject for proof.

[asekhon]

Ok so I just checked the priority date for EB2 in the June 2007 bulletin. It is 01APR04. My PD (13JAN03) has now become current. Based on your experiences should I just wait and watch or do something proactively?
I talked to my lawyer yesterday, and she said that they will send communication to USCIS on June 1 saying that since my PD is current now so USCIS should process my I-485. You can ask the same to your lawyer. Besides that i do not know of anything that one can do.

[ramaonline]

it is based on murthy's discussion with Oppenheim - Search in these forums - u will get all answers

[RNANDIGAM1]

GC Pool

Check the bulletin. The priority date has moved a little bit.

Here are the dates from June 2007 Bulletin.

1st C
2nd APR04
3rd 01JUN03

Link:
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html

[dwl800]

think about it.

I think we are loosing sight of DOS tactics here.
------------------------------------------------
read between the lines whats ...up and everything's alright.
-Greenday
------------------------------------------------

they move dates in summer and then retrogress in fall.

whats the average time to process 485 application?
6 months

how long is summer?
3 months

so if one files for 485 in summer he most certainly wont get 485 cleared, but will however pay all the fees to DOS.

questions you need to ask.
Q1.why are the dates stagnant?
Q2.why move the dates now?
Q3.why would they move dates by 1yr?


DOS answers
A1. because they expect lot of cases to be cleared by BEC's
A2. because if they don't move dates now, they risk leaving visa numbers unused.
A3. because they think BEC and USCIS wont have not cleared as many cases as they expected

I think the Real answers are
A1. because they expect lot of cases to be cleared by BEC's, and they don't want to look stupid by making dates unavailable before June.
A2. because if they move dates now nobody is going to get GC in 6 months and they can easily collect INCREASED fees from applicants.
A3. the more number of ppl they can get to file the more fees they can collect.

before you start defending them, think about guys who have PD of Jan 9th 2003 for EB2 India.
let me tell you there are ppl who have PD weeks away from being current.
tell me that DOS can move dates ahead by 1yr in June, but couldn't move 1 day in past 8 months?

This guy is a genious! I like this post.

[RNANDIGAM1]

Hi
Does anyone know about this:
How much time is available to file for I-485 once the Priority date is current?

[GCAmigo]

This guy is a genious! I like this post.
spelt it wrong.. it is genius !

[santhakumar]

my priority date is feb.2004, how many months are going to move in july visa bulletin?

[royus77]

my priority date is feb.2004, how many months are going to move in july visa bulletin?


my date is Oct 2005 in eb2 category ...Today I have to reject a very good offer from a copany dreaming the dates will move to enough in the next months

[diptam]

my date is Oct 2005 in eb2 category ...Today I have to reject a very good offer from a copany dreaming the dates will move to enough in the next months

:) :) The June Bulletin just came out - just hang in there. Statistically speaking they are releasing 2 years worth of guys every 6 month. It will Probably be stuck for next 6-7 months and then they will release PD upto June 2005 for EB3....

My PD is Mar 05 and i'm hoping to be current in the next Backlog lot ... Once again this is just a personal hunch and please don't act on anything based on these comments !!!

[hindu_king]

This is my guess:
EB2 - Jan 1 2006
EB3 - Jun 1 2004

[svgupta]

This is my guess:
EB2 - Jan 1 2006
EB3 - Jun 1 2004
2 good 2 be true for Jul '07 bulletin.

[asanghi]

If the reason for forward movement is to make sure no visa numbers are wasted as claimed by Murthy, my guess is there will not be any movement in July, neither forward nor backward.

[sagar_nyc]

2 good 2 be true for Jul '07 bulletin.
EB2 - JAN 2006
EB3 - JUL 2005

[svgupta]

:) :) The June Bulletin just came out - just hang in there. Statistically speaking they are releasing 2 years worth of guys every 6 month. It will Probably be stuck for next 6-7 months and then they will release PD upto June 2005 for EB3....

My PD is Mar 05 and i'm hoping to be current in the next Backlog lot ... Once again this is just a personal hunch and please don't act on anything based on these comments !!!

Agreed. Going by the statistics of the past bulletins, thr may be a stagnation in the next few mths. However, If it happens earlier, no ones complaining about that :)

[testz]

Just missed by 1 month....Do anyone think July bulletin will move by atleast 1 or 2 months?

thx

[sravani]

I think the next 2 Visa bulletins we will see forward movement and then it will stop.

[venkat_gc]

missed by 12 days.. Hope it get better in the next month.

[subba]

My EB2 PD is 12/19/05. (Am currently jobhunting.)

If my PD becomes current in the next couple of months, I pledge to contribute 500$ to IV.

[drirshad]

Even if it moves like by an inch, i ll b happy ....

[eb3_nepa]

missed by 12 days.. Hope it get better in the next month.


MISSED BY NINE DAYS

[sixpockets]

It appears they are opening the flood gates without any pattern. Dont know when will the flood gate open next and for how long. It could be next month or next year. Lets hope for the best.

[GCAmigo]

my priority date is feb.2004, how many months are going to move in july visa bulletin?
Murthyji !

[greenguru]

EB3 - Moves by 6 months [ 2004 Jan ]
EB2 - 8 to 10 months [ 2004 Dec or early 2005 ]


Retrogression started from Jan 2005.

As EB3 was way to bad, i guess lot of labors were filed in EB2 starting from Jan 2005. So EB2 might be a bit slow after Like March 2005.

Just my guess..

[Canadian_Dream]

This is a reasonable assumption. You also have to remember that in the event EB-3 ROW becomes current in the next few visa bulletins, there might be a good chance of numbers trickling down to EB-2 India/China. (Since EB-1 is current).
Overall prospects are really good for EB-2 advancement, but we all know how unpredictable these bulletins are. Also a lot (and yes a whole lot) depends on how many people file in June 2007 if that number is too high then forward movement could be halted.
In the end, I guess EB-2 could go early 2005, by reasonable assumption.

EB3 - Moves by 6 months [ 2004 Jan ]
EB2 - 8 to 10 months [ 2004 Dec or early 2005 ]


Retrogression started from Jan 2005.

As EB3 was way to bad, i guess lot of labors were filed in EB2 starting from Jan 2005. So EB2 might be a bit slow after Like March 2005.

Just my guess..

[powerman]

MISSED BY 15 DAYS !

my guess ...EB3 -> Dec 01, 03

[bijualex29]

The end of the quarter starts from July,Aug,sep, where the Spill over of visa take place irrespective of country of orgin.
The fact that Visa bulletin mentions there will be additional movement during coming months ( it is "s") that means in the coming Jul, Aug,sep.

My feeling is to be conservative, it EB-3 will atleast move till Jan-2004 and EB-2 will move at least for a year. They will use that additional 140,000 visa will be be alloted in the fiscal year 2008.
Based on the demand, from Jan-2008 onwards, the number will move back again.

[raju123]

PERM was came into effect on March 28. 2005. I know, people were waiting PERM since mid of 2004. Attorney were advising to wait for PERM in 2004. I believe very few labors were filed between March 2004 to PERM (March 2005) for EB2 and EB3.
PERM has 2 to 3 months pre-filing time. First PERM approval came on May 23, 2005 (which might be filed around May 10 to May 15). Before July 2005, there were very few PERM approvals.
I guess very few cases have priority date between March 2004 to July 2005 hence more chances to move cut of dates fast in coming two/three months (It may have July/August 2005 for EB2 at least) However, it all depends upon the inflow of LC approval from BEC.



EB3 - Moves by 6 months [ 2004 Jan ]
EB2 - 8 to 10 months [ 2004 Dec or early 2005 ]


Retrogression started from Jan 2005.

As EB3 was way to bad, i guess lot of labors were filed in EB2 starting from Jan 2005. So EB2 might be a bit slow after Like March 2005.

Just my guess..

[radosav]

Hope EB3 ROW moves to Dec/Jan 2006:D

[eb3_nepa]

MISSED BY 15 DAYS !

my guess ...EB3 -> Dec 01, 03


I still am the reigning champion when it comes to missing it. June 10 2003. So missed by NINE days!! :p

[andy garcia]

I still am the reigning champion when it comes to missing it. June 10 2003. So missed by NINE days!! :p

Actually you missed it by 10 days.

From the VB:
The cut-off date for an oversubscribed category is the priority date of the first applicant who could not be reached within the numerical limits. Only applicants who have a priority date earlier than the cut-off date may be allotted a number.

[vallabhu]

I think its not moving any further, Perm started in March 2005 I guess and there were more than double the number of application they get every year in 2005 and 2006 so they may not dare open up for 2005.

I will be very happy if they do so.

[sledge_hammer]

I think they'll come as close to the date when PERM started and then stop. They will also speed up processign of all pre-PERM labors.

Thereafter, it will be easier for USCIS to predict visa bulletins since every labor application is under PERM.

[humdesi]

My son is turning 2 tomorrow. He is already showing signs of terrible 2 on him such as sit-up and roll-over strike. I will have to tolerate all these and keep my fingers crossed in the hope that he can agree to sponsor me when he is 21.

If the current compromise becomes a bill, it will become very difficult for US citizens to bring in parents.

[GC08]

I think the bulletin may not move for another 6 months. Take a look at the persons on this forum. Quite some of them can file I-485 now, which means quite a lot of people are between June 2003 and March 2005. I remember a lot of people were rushing to file Labor (at their lawyer's suggestion that the new process would be make everything harder) the end of 2004 and early 2005. So the situation would be even worse if you have late 2004 or early 2005 priority date.

Just my view...who knows, given the whole choas of this green card thing, which was at least partially due to the imcompentency of those beurocrats. How could they waste 11,000 visa #s! Unbelievable! :mad:

[peer123]

Hi friends

has any one received the approval for your I140 for application that was applied around Aug/sept 06

thanks

[EB3Victim]

Hi friends

has any one received the approval for your I140 for application that was applied around Aug/sept 06

thanks


My 140 was filed on Sep 12,2006 and was approved on April 27 2007.
You can find a similar thread at the below URL

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4191

[balam]

Hi, my PD is Nov2004 EB2 -India. Will it become current by this Sep ?

[lelica32]

Hope EB3 ROW moves to Dec/Jan 2006:D

I`m sure that EB3 ROW will be CURRENT in the next Bulletin!!!

[EB3Victim]

Can any of the GURU's give any predictions about the movement of EB3 for July bulletin

[nonimmi]

I`m sure that EB3 ROW will be CURRENT in the next Bulletin!!!

How about EB3 India? Any guess?

[santhakumar]

how many months for EB3 will move in july 2007 visa bulletin? Anybody has information from any reliable source?
Thanks

[srikondoji]

My reliable source is the visa bulletin site which unfortunately gets updated once every month. Please visit us again on July 14th.
how many months for EB3 will move in july 2007 visa bulletin? Anybody has information from any reliable source?
Thanks

[cygent]

how many months for EB3 will move in july 2007 visa bulletin? Anybody has information from any reliable source?
Thanks


EB3 is going to be pushed back by 2 years (ie. Retrogressed) I have sources at USCIS who have confirmed this fact.

No Thanks to your contribution to [IV]

[liorsal]

EB3 is going to be pushed back by 2 years (ie. Retrogressed) I have sources at USCIS who have confirmed this fact.

No Thanks to your contribution to [IV]
india or ROW?

[satishbsk]

how many months for EB3 will move in july 2007 visa bulletin? Anybody has information from any reliable source?
Thanks
Predictions for July / August 2007
©MurthyDotCom
Posted May 18, 2007
The DOS stated that there could be additional advances in the cutoff dates in the upcoming months. This will allow many people to file their I-485/AOS cases. Once the USCIS starts to act on those cases and creates demand for the visa numbers (a visa number is assigned when an I-485 is approved), the cutoff dates will have to be adjusted. This adjustment will mean that the dates will likely move backward. The DOS could not offer a prediction of when this might occur, however.

[GC08]

EB3 is going to be pushed back by 2 years (ie. Retrogressed) I have sources at USCIS who have confirmed this fact.

No Thanks to your contribution to [IV]

I would not be surprised if this happens. :(

[liorsal]

EB3 is going to be pushed back by 2 years (ie. Retrogressed) I have sources at USCIS who have confirmed this fact.

No Thanks to your contribution to [IV]
can you give us more details, if you have a reliable sources?
and what you'r sources say about EB3 ROW?

[cygent]

Hi, my PD is Nov2004 EB2 -India. Will it become current by this Sep ?

EB2 is going to be pushed back by 2 years (ie. Retrogressed) I have sources at USCIS who have confirmed this fact.

No Thanks to your contribution to [IV]

[msyedy]

EB3 is going to be pushed back by 2 years (ie. Retrogressed) I have sources at USCIS who have confirmed this fact.

No Thanks to your contribution to [IV]

I can sit here and say the EB3 is going to move back 3 years - 4 years. EB2 will move ahead 5 years.
You have no valid proof for us to believe this. So before making such a statement please give proof with it.

[drirshad]

With sources at USCIS nobody would hang out on IV .....

Murthy predicted the dates will move forward for summer and the other way starting fall .....

[y2kchandra]

I would like to know the EB2 and EB3 PD for July 2007

[smbaps]

Can anyone inform me how long does it take to reach EB3 Nov 2003?
Does it get current in coming months?

smbaps

[cygent]

With sources at USCIS nobody would hang out on IV .....

Murthy predicted the dates will move forward for summer and the other way starting fall .....

EXACTLY!!

Spring FORWARD Fall BACK

[smbaps]

cygent,
Will EB3 Nov 2003 is going to be current in coming months? U have metioned that u know somebody in USCIS..

smbaps

[GC08]

Need someone's opinion in the following scenario.

Say you filed I140 and cannot file I485 because of retrogression. Now suddenly, your priority date is current (yeah, I wish). But your I140 is till pending. In this case, can you still go ahead to file I485 (even though your I140 has not been approved)?

:confused:

[rb_248]

EB2 is going to be pushed back by 2 years (ie. Retrogressed) I have sources at USCIS who have confirmed this fact.

No Thanks to your contribution to [IV]

cygent,
I dont think any one in this forum will respect your postings. Don't watse time. All here know that if you don't have the source your post is worthless.

[CADude]

YES

Need someone's opinion in the following scenario.

Say you filed I140 and cannot file I485 because of retrogression. Now suddenly, your priority date is current (yeah, I wish). But your I140 is till pending. In this case, can you still go ahead to file I485 (even though your I140 has not been approved)?

:confused:

[GCBy3000]

Go to astrology.com and give your PD and place of filing. Based on planetary position of Saturn and Jupiter, they predict the exact movement. Even USCIS consults with them every month before publishing the bulletin.

I would like to know the EB2 and EB3 PD for July 2007

[GCBy3000]

Yeah, even I know couple of people in USCIS inlcluding Mr.Gonzalez. But the question is whether they know me?

cygent,
Will EB3 Nov 2003 is going to be current in coming months? U have metioned that u know somebody in USCIS..

smbaps

[va_il]

cygent,
Will EB3 Nov 2003 is going to be current in coming months? U have metioned that u know somebody in USCIS..

smbaps


No wonder layman in India can be taken for a ride on day to day things when so called educated fxxxls here can buy into these stupid claims.

Grow up guys. I mean it.

[bijualex29]

EB-2 and B-3 prediction as per Murthyji (our astrologer for visa bulletin, July -2007)
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch052107_P.html
As per her interpretation, EB-2 and EB-3 will move only a month or two before it go back.

[anandrajesh]

EB-2 and B-3 prediction as per Murthyji (our astrologer for visa bulletin, July -2007)
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch052107_P.html
As per her interpretation, EB-2 and EB-3 will move only a month or two before it go back.

Thx for breaking my bubble of hope of more forward progression of dates. I want EB-3 India to move atleast 10 mos.
:(

[yabadaba]

EB-2 and B-3 prediction as per Murthyji (our astrologer for visa bulletin, July -2007)
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch052107_P.html
As per her interpretation, EB-2 and EB-3 will move only a month or two before it go back.

read the text before u interpret...it says the dates will move FOR another month or two...it does not mean that the dates will move BY another month or two.

[ilwaiting]

I think you got it wrong, She probably meant to say that priority dates would move forward in the coming bulletins and retrogress again in fall.

I don't think she is saying dates would move by 1 or 2 months.

Just my thought

[naveenarjun]

EB-2 and B-3 prediction as per Murthyji (our astrologer for visa bulletin, July -2007)
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch052107_P.html
As per her interpretation, EB-2 and EB-3 will move only a month or two before it go back.

Ditto

[RandyK]

She is just repeating what was on the June bullatin. Nothing NEW

[anandrajesh]

read the text before u interpret...it says the dates will move FOR another month or two...it does not mean that the dates will move BY another month or two.

Now this interpretation brings life back to me. :)

[GCKaIntezar]

EB-2 and B-3 prediction as per Murthyji (our astrologer for visa bulletin, July -2007)
http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch052107_P.html
As per her interpretation, EB-2 and EB-3 will move only a month or two before it go back.

The key is the text in red/bold.

Chat User : Hello, Murthy. Thank you for your excellent service. I have noticed that the priority dates for EB3 and EB2 have moved quite a bit. Will it be the same in the near future?

Attorney Murthy : The U.S. Department of State has explained that it is likely that the PDs will move for another month or two, and then the dates will likely retrogress to where they were before the forward movement of the dates. It is possible that they may go back even further if too many people file for the I-485 and there is an expected excess demand of immigrant visa numbers.

[hebron]

Thx for breaking my bubble of hope of more forward progression of dates. I want EB-3 India to move atleast 10 mos.
:(

Don't break the bubble yet :). How optimist you think I am for hoping that the PD for EB3 will move forward by 16 months?? Optimist or Crazy:)

[DSJ]

I am guessing USCIS is trying to milk EAD and AP fee by letting people file before they go increase fee (effective July 1st 2007).

Here is the Q&A for existing people

Q. If an applicant files a Form I-485 to adjust status before the rule is effective, will he/she have to pay for future interim benefits?

A. Yes. An applicant for adjustment of status who applies before the fee rule becomes effective will continue to have to file separate applications with fees for employment and travel authorization. Those who file an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) after the new fee schedule is effective will not have to pay the additional fees for employment and travel authorization as these costs have been included in the new adjustment of status application fee.

[yabadaba]

Guys, lets say that someone has a valid, stamped H1B for another 3 years and files his 485 without applying for EAD or AP.

If the person is not changing his job and the spouse is on her own H1B and doesnt intend on changing her job, is there any incentive on applying for AP/Ead... would it impact travel if the 485 is approved while on vacation?

[for_gc]

I am guessing USCIS is trying to milk EAD and AP fee by letting people file before they go increase fee (effective July 1st 2007).

Here is the Q&A for existing people

Q. If an applicant files a Form I-485 to adjust status before the rule is effective, will he/she have to pay for future interim benefits?

A. Yes. An applicant for adjustment of status who applies before the fee rule becomes effective will continue to have to file separate applications with fees for employment and travel authorization. Those who file an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) after the new fee schedule is effective will not have to pay the additional fees for employment and travel authorization as these costs have been included in the new adjustment of status application fee.

I just had the same thought.

And, it makes complete sense. They can always move back the dates and not issue the gc. In the meantime they will keep collecting all this revenue.

[for_gc]

Guys, lets say that someone has a valid, stamped H1B for another 3 years and files his 485 without applying for EAD or AP.

If the person is not changing his job and the spouse is on her own H1B and doesnt intend on changing her job, is there any incentive on applying for AP/Ead... would it impact travel if the 485 is approved while on vacation?

Also, what are the fees for EAD and AP and can we apply for these ourselves or do we need attorney for these normally ?

[mirage]

Guys sorry for being pessimistic. But I believe the dates will not move in june & july, it may move Aug and further. Why ???
Because USCIS issued the final date of fee increase and that is 30th July. They would want to collect more fees on I-485/EAD/AP filings. Hence I believe they'll hold on untill jul 30th. I wish I'm wrong!!!!

[DSJ]

Here is my scenario

1. Renewed 3 times EAD and 2 times AP
2. Use AP twice to enter US
3. Still working on H1-B, got 3 year extension using approved I-140.
4. Extended H1-B after travelling on AP.
5. Except for the first time, EAD and AP are renewed my self.
6. Just traveled back from India, so not applying AP, if needed I will get H1-B stamped.

IMHO,

Applying for benifits (EAD/AP) depends on personal choice, if you are working on H1B employer and not willing to change the job until you get GC, then don't give a cent to these suckers.

If you want to be safe in case job is shaking, then apply EAD as a backup before fee increase, may lose 180 bucks, but still worth a shot

Guys, lets say that someone has a valid, stamped H1B for another 3 years and files his 485 without applying for EAD or AP.

If the person is not changing his job and the spouse is on her own H1B and doesnt intend on changing her job, is there any incentive on applying for AP/Ead... would it impact travel if the 485 is approved while on vacation?

Before fee increase, EAD - 180 and AP 190
After fee increase, EAD - 340 and AP 355
You can apply yourself, save some dollar from another sucker (attorney)

Also, what are the fees for EAD and AP and can we apply for these ourselves or do we need attorney for these normally ?

[nozerd]

You know what. I dont minbd paying $ 350 or even $ 500 for EAD.

If you have spouse on H4 sitting at home doing nothing, bringing in $ 0 then $ 500 is immaterial if they can work and even make $ 30-40 k a year.

So stop wining like babies. EAD even for $ 500 is better than no EAD. I just hope they would take the funds and issues 3 yrs valid EAD. So pay 1500 and get 3 yr EAD.

[coolmanasip]

I was wondering if anyone knows if there is any predictions about EB2 becoming current?? I read on one of the portals about such roumor...any credibility? My PD for EB2 is June 2006....I guess will have to wait for ever as all of you....!!!

Manasi

[nycguy30]

Guys,

Can I apply for 3 year extn before 16 months of expiration of H1B.

Mine is expiring in Jan 09 (6th year) but was wondering if I could apply now.

Thanks in advance for your help.

[karthiknv143]

Guys sorry for being pessimistic. But I believe the dates will not move in june & july, it may move Aug and further. Why ???
Because USCIS issued the final date of fee increase and that is 30th July. They would want to collect more fees on I-485/EAD/AP filings. Hence I believe they'll hold on untill jul 30th. I wish I'm wrong!!!!

Here is the Q&A for existing people

Q. If an applicant files a Form I-485 to adjust status before the rule is effective, will he/she have to pay for future interim benefits?

A. Yes. An applicant for adjustment of status who applies before the fee rule becomes effective will continue to have to file separate applications with fees for employment and travel authorization. Those who file an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) after the new fee schedule is effective will not have to pay the additional fees for employment and travel authorization as these costs have been included in the new adjustment of status application fee.

[mirage]

16 months in advance??? You might have as well asked for 6 years in the first place :)
You can apply of H1Bb Extension only 6 months in advance.
Guys,

Can I apply for 3 year extn before 16 months of expiration of H1B.

Mine is expiring in Jan 09 (6th year) but was wondering if I could apply now.

Thanks in advance for your help.

[roseball]

You can only apply for H1 extensions 6 months from its expiry date.

[DSJ]

It is not wining like babies thing... It is about their intention to clear backlog.

If they got used to this milking money, they will find some or other reason to keep backlog backlogged. You will loose more money by not getting GC.

BTB You are not alone mind paying 500. :rolleyes:

You know what. I dont minbd paying $ 350 or even $ 500 for EAD.

If you have spouse on H4 sitting at home doing nothing, bringing in $ 0 then $ 500 is immaterial if they can work and even make $ 30-40 k a year.

So stop wining like babies. EAD even for $ 500 is better than no EAD. I just hope they would take the funds and issues 3 yrs valid EAD. So pay 1500 and get 3 yr EAD.

[roseball]

Quote//

Here is the Q&A for existing people

Q. If an applicant files a Form I-485 to adjust status before the rule is effective, will he/she have to pay for future interim benefits?

A. Yes. An applicant for adjustment of status who applies before the fee rule becomes effective will continue to have to file separate applications with fees for employment and travel authorization. Those who file an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) after the new fee schedule is effective will not have to pay the additional fees for employment and travel authorization as these costs have been included in the new adjustment of status application fee.

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Does the above mean if you file I-485 after the new fee structure is effective, there is no application fee for EAD and AP....This sounds too good to be true....

[ChainReaction]

Quote//

Here is the Q&A for existing people

Q. If an applicant files a Form I-485 to adjust status before the rule is effective, will he/she have to pay for future interim benefits?

A. Yes. An applicant for adjustment of status who applies before the fee rule becomes effective will continue to have to file separate applications with fees for employment and travel authorization. Those who file an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) after the new fee schedule is effective will not have to pay the additional fees for employment and travel authorization as these costs have been included in the new adjustment of status application fee.

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Does the above mean if you file I-485 after the new fee structure is effective, there is no application fee for EAD and AP....This sounds too good to be true....

I think it is just for the first EAD/AP after that every year you have to apply for EAD/AP as usual.

[vengaiah]

I think EB2 will move another 3 months... and EB3 will move another 6 months..

The reason is ...
They do not know the number of new applications filed for June 07 until end of the month..they only know by end of month june 07, So based on the number of applications and generated money they will take further decesions for Aug bulletin..

[GCard_Dream]

Any takers on how much EB3 ROW will likely move ahead by in July bulletin.
At least +3 month?

[java_jaggu]

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Originally Posted by roseball
Quote//

Here is the Q&A for existing people

Q. If an applicant files a Form I-485 to adjust status before the rule is effective, will he/she have to pay for future interim benefits?

A. Yes. An applicant for adjustment of status who applies before the fee rule becomes effective will continue to have to file separate applications with fees for employment and travel authorization. Those who file an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) after the new fee schedule is effective will not have to pay the additional fees for employment and travel authorization as these costs have been included in the new adjustment of status application fee.

// Quote

Does the above mean if you file I-485 after the new fee structure is effective, there is no application fee for EAD and AP....This sounds too good to be true....

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They increased the fee for the I-485 from $375 to $925, so they more than made up for the EAD and AP fees. There is no 'free' lunch in America :)

[ns007]

I may be wrong, but I think it does not matter how many new applicants apply in June. USICS would not decide the date’s movement by number of new application. They would decide by how many old "all clear" applications would be adjudicated if they move the dates. By "all clear" I mean all the steps like namecheck etc have been completed and are waiting for the visa number.

New applications have to go through lots of steps before they are “all clear". For the applications filed in June it would probably take at least 6 months (if lucky) to complete all the steps.

They want to make sure that they do not loose the visa numbers as they did last year. Once they are sure that they have enough applications to be adjudicated for current fiscal year they would move the dates back.



I think EB2 will move another 3 months... and EB3 will move another 6 months..

The reason is ...
They do not know the number of new applications filed for June 07 until end of the month..they only know by end of month june 07, So based on the number of applications and generated money they will take further decesions for Aug bulletin..

[CADude]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/27/AR2007052701118.html?hpid=topnews&sub=AR

These Fees are life blood for USCIS. So USCIS will never clear backlog. It is not even their intention. :mad: Please notify congress or keep poring money to run the department. :D

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Originally Posted by roseball
Quote//

Here is the Q&A for existing people

Q. If an applicant files a Form I-485 to adjust status before the rule is effective, will he/she have to pay for future interim benefits?

A. Yes. An applicant for adjustment of status who applies before the fee rule becomes effective will continue to have to file separate applications with fees for employment and travel authorization. Those who file an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) after the new fee schedule is effective will not have to pay the additional fees for employment and travel authorization as these costs have been included in the new adjustment of status application fee.

// Quote

Does the above mean if you file I-485 after the new fee structure is effective, there is no application fee for EAD and AP....This sounds too good to be true....

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They increased the fee for the I-485 from $375 to $925, so they more than made up for the EAD and AP fees. There is no 'free' lunch in America :)

[WillIBLucky]

16 months in advance??? You might have as well asked for 6 years in the first place :)
You can apply of H1Bb Extension only 6 months in advance.
Is there a rule that you can apply only 6 months in advance? Mine is expiring in May 2008 and my firm is willing to file for extension in Aug-Sept 2007 as I am planning to travel to India in December 2007.

[ns007]

Yes, it is a rule.

Is there a rule that you can apply only 6 months in advance? Mine is expiring in May 2008 and my firm is willing to file for extension in Aug-Sept 2007 as I am planning to travel to India in December 2007.

[WillIBLucky]

Yes, it is a rule.

Dont just state....show me the link in USICS where its written...


Originally Posted by WillIBLucky
Is there a rule that you can apply only 6 months in advance? Mine is expiring in May 2008 and my firm is willing to file for extension in Aug-Sept 2007 as I am planning to travel to India in December 2007.

[GCKaIntezar]

Is there a rule that you can apply only 6 months in advance? Mine is expiring in May 2008 and my firm is willing to file for extension in Aug-Sept 2007 as I am planning to travel to India in December 2007.

Yes, I think so.

[GCKaIntezar]

Dont just state....show me the link in USICS where its written...


Don't DEMAND and act like a brat.. There is such a thing as request.

Why don't you ask your attorney.

[ns007]

I think that is your attorney's job. He is paid by either you or your employer and, I am not.

Be courteous; request not demand.


Dont just state....show me the link in USICS where its written...

[WillIBLucky]

Originally Posted by GCKAInte..
Don't DEMAND and act like a brat.. There is such a thing as request.

Why don't you ask your attorney.



Well I was not being a brat. I come here for information/experience sharing and supporting the green card cause. If I have to go to attorney for everything then the purpose of coming here is lost. This is my opinion. Well if my statement sounded like I was demanding then I did not mean to....I just meant....dont just state....how sure are you? It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attoney then.....thanks!


I think that is your attorney's job. He is paid by either you or your employer and, I am not.

Be courteous; request not demand.

[liorsal]

Well I was not being a brat. I come here for information/experience sharing and supporting the green card cause. If I have to go to attorney for everything then the purpose of coming here is lost. This is my opinion. Well if my statement sounded like I was demanding then I did not mean to....I just meant....dont just state....how sure are you? It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attoney then.....thanks!
how all this argument related to Visa Bulletin Predictions:confused:

[ns007]

Please work on your communication skill - wordsmith it before posting. It is a public forum and you gotta be polite especially if you are the one asking for information.

Coming back to your question, I have extended my H1 5 times now and, I trusted my well reputed attorney's word when he told me that one cannot apply for extension before 6 months of expiry of current H1. I don’t have a link or USICS document.



Well I was not being a brat. I come here for information/experience sharing and supporting the green card cause. If I have to go to attorney for everything then the purpose of coming here is lost. This is my opinion. Well if my statement sounded like I was demanding then I did not mean to....I just meant....dont just state....how sure are you? It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attoney then.....thanks!

[RandyK]

Came directly from my imm lawyer

[sanjeev_2004]

Well I was not being a brat. I come here for information/experience sharing and supporting the green card cause. If I have to go to attorney for everything then the purpose of coming here is lost. This is my opinion. Well if my statement sounded like I was demanding then I did not mean to....I just meant....dont just state....how sure are you? It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attoney then.....thanks!


Can you count, how many times you said sorry in last one year.

[GCard_Dream]

Come on guys.. let it go. WillIBLucky already said that he didn't mean to be demanding as his post might have suggested. Could it have been said a little differently .. yes but we are not native english speaker. Just let it go.

We could better use our time in web faxing.. have you guys done that yet?

Can you count, how many times you said sorry in last one year.

[andy garcia]

It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attorney then ...thanks!

This is from the instructions on the I-129 form(page 13):

When to File.

Generally, a Form I-129 petition may not be filed more than six months prior to the date employment is scheduled to begin. Petitioners should review the appropriate regulatory provisions in 8 CFR which relate to the non immigrant classification sought.

[dpp]

Well I was not being a brat. I come here for information/experience sharing and supporting the green card cause. If I have to go to attorney for everything then the purpose of coming here is lost. This is my opinion. Well if my statement sounded like I was demanding then I did not mean to....I just meant....dont just state....how sure are you? It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attoney then.....thanks!

Can you apply for 2008 h1 quoua now? NOOOOOOOOO.

Its not possible. because you can only 6 months in advance, so it should start filing on or after Apr 1st 2008.

Same applies for extensions.

You cannot apply extension well before. If allowed, everyone will have H1Bs for 6+ years validity.

[small2006]

Well I was not being a brat. I come here for information/experience sharing and supporting the green card cause. If I have to go to attorney for everything then the purpose of coming here is lost. This is my opinion. Well if my statement sounded like I was demanding then I did not mean to....I just meant....dont just state....how sure are you? It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attoney then.....thanks!

Check this link out: http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=28c3d59b437126548846b94b2ec08 251
and do search for the phrase "six months" and you will find your confirmation straight from USCIS.

If that satisfies you, please contribute $50 to IV since I saved you attorney's consultation fee;) ;) .

[GCBy3000]

Did they stopped I140 premium processing altogather. Is it true that none can file 140-PP now?

[ns007]

I think USCIS stopped I-140 premium processing for labor substitution cases only.

Here is the link of the USCIS press release:

http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/PPSPermRule051707.pdf

Did they stopped I140 premium processing altogather. Is it true that none can file 140-PP now?

[WillIBLucky]

Check this link out: http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=28c3d59b437126548846b94b2ec08 251
and do search for the phrase "six months" and you will find your confirmation straight from USCIS.

If that satisfies you, please contribute $50 to IV since I saved you attorney's consultation fee;) ;) .
FYI, I have already spoken to my attorney and he said we can apply for extension now. Also, it was free consultation.

From the link you gave it looks like it talks about new applications and not extensions. I may be wrong but my attorney is not wrong.

Anyway, to everybody who have responded to my posts till now......Thank you for your replies.

Sidenote: I am also a regular contributor of IV. I will be contributing more for the cause.

[yabadaba]

FYI, I have already spoken to my attorney and he said we can apply for extension now. Also, it was free consultation.

From the link you gave it looks like it talks about new applications and not extensions. I may be wrong but my attorney is not wrong.

Anyway, to everybody who have responded to my posts till now......Thank you for your replies.

Sidenote: I am also a regular contributor of IV. I will be contributing more for the cause.

maybe fire your attorney..cos for sure u will not be lucky

[small2006]

FYI, I have already spoken to my attorney and he said we can apply for extension now. Also, it was free consultation.

From the link you gave it looks like it talks about new applications and not extensions. I may be wrong but my attorney is not wrong.

Anyway, to everybody who have responded to my posts till now......Thank you for your replies.

Sidenote: I am also a regular contributor of IV. I will be contributing more for the cause.

One more free advise from the one and only Sheela Murthy:
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Chat User : Dear Madam, my GC was filed in 2002. It's still in labor. My H-1 6 years ends in November 2006. How soon can I file for an extension? Is the extension for 1 year or 3 years?

Attorney Murthy : Generally, the USCIS will only allow for the H1B extension request to be filed 6 months in advance, which means that it must be filed by May 2006 for a start date of the extension in November 2006. The USCIS position is that the H1B may only be filed in 1-year increments until the I-140 petition has been approved. Then, while retrogression is in effect, and after the I-140 approval, per the USCIS, H1B extensions may be filed and approved in 3-year increments.
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Source:http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch121205_P.html

Not sure who your attorney is but I'd be careful filing right now if your H1 doesn't expire until May 2008. I was in the same situation about a year ago and I had to wait till it was 6 months for expiration.

[WillIBLucky]

One more free advise from the one and only Sheela Murthy:
************************************************** ***
Chat User : Dear Madam, my GC was filed in 2002. It's still in labor. My H-1 6 years ends in November 2006. How soon can I file for an extension? Is the extension for 1 year or 3 years?

Attorney Murthy : Generally, the USCIS will only allow for the H1B extension request to be filed 6 months in advance, which means that it must be filed by May 2006 for a start date of the extension in November 2006. The USCIS position is that the H1B may only be filed in 1-year increments until the I-140 petition has been approved. Then, while retrogression is in effect, and after the I-140 approval, per the USCIS, H1B extensions may be filed and approved in 3-year increments.
************************************************** ***
Source:http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/ch121205_P.html

Not sure who your attorney is but I'd be careful filing right now if your H1 doesn't expire until May 2008. I was in the same situation about a year ago and I had to wait till it was 6 months for expiration.
Thank you. I will keep you guys posted in future if in fact that is a "rule" or its a generalized statement.

Everywhere I see......it states....."generally,...." but its not a rule. May be thats why my attorney said we could file now.

Anyway, I dont expect anyone to post any replies to this in this thread that is not meant for this. If anyone still wants to talk about this.....please open a new thread.

Good Day!

[mhathi]

Well I was not being a brat. I come here for information/experience sharing and supporting the green card cause. If I have to go to attorney for everything then the purpose of coming here is lost. This is my opinion. Well if my statement sounded like I was demanding then I did not mean to....I just meant....dont just state....how sure are you? It does make sense to file before 6 months but is it a rule is what I wanted to know.....

Well I guess I will go and ask my attoney then.....thanks!

When I applied for my extension, I was told by my lawyer that you cannot apply before six months of expiry of your current H1.

[shirish]

I am in asimiler case (though i haven't finished the 6 years on my H1B yet). My H1B expires in Jan 2008. I checked with my atternoy, and according to him i CANNOT apply for the extn before July 2007, which is 6 months before the expiry of the H1B.

Hope this helps.


Thank you. I will keep you guys posted in future if in fact that is a "rule" or its a generalized statement.

Everywhere I see......it states....."generally,...." but its not a rule. May be thats why my attorney said we could file now.

Anyway, I dont expect anyone to post any replies to this in this thread that is not meant for this. If anyone still wants to talk about this.....please open a new thread.

Good Day!

[greenguru]

Hi,
DO NOT APPLY BEFORE 6 MONTHS.

Here is what i did. ( This was some time later year July or Aug )

My 140 was approved. I applied for 3 years extension before 6 months.

What happened ?
- I got a query on my H1 as to why i applied before 6 months and my H1 could be denied, please provide a reason

What i did

- Talked with my layer,

- Talked with Sheela Murthy ( Paid $250.00 for 20 min )
Advice : Job duties have changed and so you applied before 6 months.

- Talked with UN

- Finally i RECALLED my H1B ( DROPPED the CASE )

Applied again when i my case was within 6 months and i got it approved.

Finally : Lost time and money and got my H1 Approved.

[greenguru]

Also, forgot to mention..

To ensure i am with in the 6months period, i changed the start date of my new H1. So i could apply before 6 moths

[roseball]

Guys, can we please stick to the topic this thread was opened for....Please do not post anymore H1 related posts here....Thank you...

[WillIBLucky]

Hi,
DO NOT APPLY BEFORE 6 MONTHS.

Here is what i did. ( This was some time later year July or Aug )

My 140 was approved. I applied for 3 years extension before 6 months.

What happened ?
- I got a query on my H1 as to why i applied before 6 months and my H1 could be denied, please provide a reason

What i did

- Talked with my layer,

- Talked with Sheela Murthy ( Paid $250.00 for 20 min )
Advice : Job duties have changed and so you applied before 6 months.

- Talked with UN

- Finally i RECALLED my H1B ( DROPPED the CASE )

Applied again when i my case was within 6 months and i got it approved.

Finally : Lost time and money and got my H1 Approved.
/\

[meg_z]

Before fee increase, EAD - 180 and AP 190
After fee increase, EAD - 340 and AP 355


I am not aware of these fees in the original proposal. Thanks.

[p_aluri]

I think your attorney is wrong!

As per my knowledge here is how it works:

Applying extension from same Employer : within 6 months of expiration.
Changing Employer: you may apply anytime


FYI, I have already spoken to my attorney and he said we can apply for extension now. Also, it was free consultation.

From the link you gave it looks like it talks about new applications and not extensions. I may be wrong but my attorney is not wrong.

Anyway, to everybody who have responded to my posts till now......Thank you for your replies.

Sidenote: I am also a regular contributor of IV. I will be contributing more for the cause.

[Lasantha]

I think your attorney is wrong!

As per my knowledge here is how it works:

Applying extension from same Employer : within 6 months of expiration.
Changing Employer: you may apply anytime

Yes, that's what I heard from my attorney too. Unless there's some kind of loop hole, the rule is that you need to wait till you are within 6 months of the expiration.

Be very very afraid of lawyers you give you advice like that.

[venky08]

looking at one of your posts, i hope you can help me with a query I have.

i am in my 6th year of H1-B which ends in Jan 2008. i switched employer last year and by some way, when this new employer requested the visa, he asked for it till nov 2008 (i dont know why?) and the petition was approved. So now i have my visa till Nov 2008 when my six years from the first h1-b visa end at Jan 2008. What should i do now? my attorney thinks that we shall apply from Jan 2008 and not Nov 2008.

[mirage]

Guys you are using wrong thread for H1B discussions. Please go to appropriate thread.

[naveenarjun]

i heard Rush Limbaugh on the radio..I know most y'all dont agree with his view but today he was batting for us guys.I gheard him talking abtout how the senators are treating highly-skilled professionals as illegals and illegals as legals.
He was talking the same thing that we are discussing in the forums.

I suggest we flood his talk show line with calls. I think you can read hi transcripts at rushlimbaugh.com.
People listen to him and this is a very good thing for us.. I hope!!!!!