Good News for US masters??

[gcformeornot]

Just got this from Mathew Oh site.

The Oh Law Firm (http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html)

10/02/2009: Bill to Eliminate Diversity Immigration Visa and Allocate the Numbers to Employment-Based Immigration Quota

* Yesterday, Representative Darrell Issa of California introduced H.R.3687 to eliminate the diversity immigrant program and to re-allocate those visas to certain employment-based immigrants who obtain an advanced degree in the United States.

[manishcp]

Refer to committee, never come to floor. As all other bills introduced. I lost my hope for "Hera Patta".

[dummgelauft]

Forget about it. Nobody dare cancel "Diversity Quota".
Although, one would wonder, since EB (even FB) visas are limited by country of birth/chargeability, is that supposed to balance out the "diversity" part of it. So whay have separate "Divesity Quota"?
ANyways, nothing is going to come out of this.

[dummgelauft]

Although nothing may come out of this bill, let us get a shout out to Rep. Issa for atleast bringing this bill fwd.

[gc_on_demand]

Few Facts and guess

(1) Unless CIR fails these piecemeal are not going anywhere

(2) USCIS started to layoff Contractors and Perm employee because of some $ 100 million short in budget. If CIR was going to happen soon in 2010 then they might think another cost cutting avenue and keep these already trained new hires. So internally administration is not fully or even little confident about CIR.

(3) Even if CIR is introduced it will not pass given unemployment rate and once CIR fails anti - immigrants will have control over senators and congress and no one will dare to come forward for recapture etc for next 2-3 years

(4) Only hope is current administration do some admin fixes ( which may help some but not all ) Like AC21 rule ( only helps those who have filled AOS ) pre filling AOS ( only who hasnot filed AOS yet )

(5) Given shortage of money in USCIS and there is not much work to do we may see reversal in 2 year EAD. so USCIS employee can get some work and money.

(6) 2 year or 5 year AP is far remote with this budget shortfall.

(7) We may see some more premium processing for different type of applications.


CIR hasn't been introduce because of economy since last spring. Reason is simple unemployment rate. How many here thinks that unemployment will come down sharply in next 6 months to 12 months. So don't keep hope alive for CIR for next 12 months and 2010 is election year so only chance are in 2011 ( If unemployment rate is lower ) . again 2012 is election year.

[tempgc]

I agree with you.

No CIR till 2012. Yes people will talk and introduce the bills, nothing changes.
No EB visa recapture.
No piecemeal legislations for immigration.

You know, even if you lure with 650,000(EB recapture visas) * 5000 (charge for each visa recapture usage) = 3.25 B its not going to pass. I can bet on it.

[letstalklc]

I agree with you.

No CIR till 2012. Yes people will talk and introduce the bills, nothing changes.
No EB visa recapture.
No piecemeal legislations for immigration.

You know, even if you lure with 650,000(EB recapture visas) * 5000 (charge for each visa recapture usage) = 3.25 B its not going to pass. I can bet on it.

Yes, I agree, given the market situation, every day so many job losses, so no bill gonna pass, they are introducing only for political purpose nothing more or less......

Only I can think of in 2011 if at all any....otherwise forget about it.....

[immigrant2007]

Yes, I agree, given the market situation, every day so many job losses, so no bill gonna pass, they are introducing only for political purpose nothing more or less......

Only I can think of in 2011 if at all any....otherwise forget about it.....

I really pity on all us some people when challenged stand upto it and find a way out but so far our inacton has proved that we are just spineless and in capbale to doing anything to improve our situation. We are lucky to be even getting GCs (even if it is 10 years) with this attitude an inaction we dont even deserve that.

[pointlesswait]

only an eternal optimistic fool will hope for a CIR in the coming months.
CIR may happen in Obama's first term...but definitely not in the immediate future.

As far as the Admins saying : It will happen.. i dont trust anyone who blows just because you pay em.
These so call lobbists are nothing but desi politicians in armani suits. They will say anything you want to hear as long as you keep paying them.

I remember last year... all of us watched live webcast for some bill--was it 5887.. Admins were 100% sure it will happen ..but it didnt.. so did IV get any refund for the failed attempt.

lets be practical and look at the big picture.. in this economy.. it will be suicidal for any politician to touch CIR...

temporary reliefs.. that do not require major senate battles must be won.. because in the end it all adds up.

The effort for CIR MUST continue.. but we must not put all our eggs in one basket..

my 2 cents:

a.) allow to file for 485
b.) EAD with no restrictions ...
c.) anyone in US for more than 7-10 yes..automatically qualifies for EAD/GC



Few Facts and guess

(1) Unless CIR fails these piecemeal are not going anywhere

(2) USCIS started to layoff Contractors and Perm employee because of some $ 100 million short in budget. If CIR was going to happen soon in 2010 then they might think another cost cutting avenue and keep these already trained new hires. So internally administration is not fully or even little confident about CIR.

(3) Even if CIR is introduced it will not pass given unemployment rate and once CIR fails anti - immigrants will have control over senators and congress and no one will dare to come forward for recapture etc for next 2-3 years

(4) Only hope is current administration do some admin fixes ( which may help some but not all ) Like AC21 rule ( only helps those who have filled AOS ) pre filling AOS ( only who hasnot filed AOS yet )

(5) Given shortage of money in USCIS and there is not much work to do we may see reversal in 2 year EAD. so USCIS employee can get some work and money.

(6) 2 year or 5 year AP is far remote with this budget shortfall.

(7) We may see some more premium processing for different type of applications.


CIR hasn't been introduce because of economy since last spring. Reason is simple unemployment rate. How many here thinks that unemployment will come down sharply in next 6 months to 12 months. So don't keep hope alive for CIR for next 12 months and 2010 is election year so only chance are in 2011 ( If unemployment rate is lower ) . again 2012 is election year.

[unbreakable]

If we assume this bill passes, what about spouses and children of the main applicant?

[Rb_newsletter]

c.) anyone in US for more than 7-10 yes..automatically qualifies for EAD/GC



I like it. If a person has worked for 10 years and paid tax continuously that is a great contribution to country. Actually he should be paid back with citizenship, at least by GC.

[belmontboy]

I like it. If a person has worked for 10 years and paid tax continuously that is a great contribution to country. Actually he should be paid back with citizenship, at least by GC.

Nice proposal.
10 yrs of working, will make one eligible for SSN benefits. Give a GC and make way for him/her to enjoy the benefits.

BTW, paying tax is not contribution, its your duty my friend.

[msgrewal81]

Nice proposal.
10 yrs of working, will make one eligible for SSN benefits. Give a GC and make way for him/her to enjoy the benefits.

BTW, paying tax is not contribution, its your duty my friend.

Guys why stand for 10 years when illegals have managed on 5 years presence in US in past CIRs. All past CIR, proposed or passed, have given GC to illegals in US for 5 yaers while "specially" excluding legals from this provision.

So, why not for legals like us. If an illegal person who stayed in US for 5 years can get in line for "legalization/GC" after paying a stupid $5000 fine, why cant legals who have stayed in US for 5 years. I hope IV fights for this point too in next CIR

[krish2005]

Guys why stand for 10 years when illegals have managed on 5 years presence in US in past CIRs. All past CIR, proposed or passed, have given GC to illegals in US for 5 yaers while "specially" excluding legals from this provision.

So, why not for legals like us. If an illegal person who stayed in US for 5 years can get in line for "legalization/GC" after paying a stupid $5000 fine, why cant legals who have stayed in US for 5 years. I hope IV fights for this point too in next CIR

I understand your views. But CIR is being proposed by a major community group whereas we legal limbo group are a minority. Talking against CIR will only crunch our position. Perhaps we can start our fight alongside to make sure that they add value pieces in CIR for us legal liners left in limbo !!!

Given a green for you here.

[zuhail]

While waiting for CIR (till eternity??), IV should launch campaign and stream line efforts to support this bill to eliminate the diversity quota, simply for the reasons that has been colorfully expressed by abcabcla.
What is wrong in supporting this bill--by fund raising and campaigning for it??.
Once EB2 Masters get to use this 50,000 visas, more visas would also be available EB3, reducing the backlog quite significantly.

Whenever CIR gets introduced we would also support and campaign for CIR.
However due to various factors IV has no control over when CIR gets introduced.

Until then why idle? Supporting this bill is better than inaction.

[psaxena]

Everyone needs GC and Citizenship but also no one wants to volunteer or donate the IV to help them moving. Nothing is free in this world, we should all start donating atleast $25 to IV which is nothing for anyone here. Guys lets start doing it and show our support rather just adding threads.

come on guys we can TOGETHER MAKE THIS HAPPEN

I understand your views. But CIR is being proposed by a major community group whereas we legal limbo group are a minority. Talking against CIR will only crunch our position. Perhaps we can start our fight alongside to make sure that they add value pieces in CIR for us legal liners left in limbo !!!

Given a green for you here.

[permfiling]

abcabcla,
I like the idea of giving more privileges to the foreign students like GC's etc but at the same time, USCIS should make a speedy movement of EB2 & EB3 categories

contributed $500 to IV
member of north california chapter

[WeShallOvercome]

I think at this point of time, piecemeal bills have a better chance of passing that any comprehensive bill. Administration's focus is on economy and is going to be so for a good 1-2 years from now. Imagine the anger of people if they hear their elected representatives spending their time worrying about aliens instead of getting them jobs. During these times, nothing that will attract national attention will work. We need to take small baby steps and work towards sneaking those smaller bills in.