Report of the Visa Office 2009 Table

[MDix]

Report of the Visa Office 2009 now available @

Report of the Visa Office 2009 Table of Contents (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/statistics/statistics_4594.html)


Thanks,
MDix

[aadimanav]

EB3 India got just 2,306 (2,222 + 84) :mad: :mad: :mad:
EB2 India got 10,124

Source: http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV_2.pdf

[psaxena]

This is real funny to see how the desperate everyone on this forum is and how much they wanna do anything about it. Well some one is doing hard work of browsing and turning pages to look for the light at the end tunnel (well thats the incoming train LOL!!) on every website one can think of ...

Browsing and posting this data is not going to help anyone including YOU... yes !! YOU!!

Think more keeping back your penny saver brain at rest, did you get the "hint"
:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
[This is what this community is]

[gc_on_demand]

Country EB1 EB2 EB3
India 6672 10124 2306
China 4999 3046 1027
SKorea 2311 4991 4001
Philippines 524 1853 5540
Mexico 2010 922 3745

All 40979 46049 39798

Conclusions

This year ROW took a very big share of the pie (most retrogress did not hit the threashold except for EB1-I/C EB2-I and EB3-P)
EB1 usage was high.
No visa wastage, they issued 141043 total visas.



USCIS had so many Eb1 and Eb2 applications pending at various centers before all these pre adjudication process they started. After Pre Adjudicated of lots of cases they consumed lots of visas this year. Now that if we get new backlog report from USCIS and if they give true report then visa usage for 2010 for ROW countries should not be higher.

We should notice how country cap is affecting us. IV is fighting for removal of country cap. We should join IV on this one.

[amitga]

Every Year South Korea gets more than 7% visa in both Eb2 and EB3. South Korea should be retrogressed. In fact in 2009 they got 3,571 EB3 Visas and India only got 2222 Visas. Simillary South Korea got 4991 Visa in EB2 and China got only 3046 Visas.

I think its not legal to assign Korea more than 7% visas is other countries are retrogressed.

Also Philippines was assigned 5266 EB3 Visas which is also wrong.

[gcformeornot]

lots of L1A are taking EB1 visas....:(

[ksvreg]

hmm,, I think I am totally confused with the reports. DOL reports vs USCIS reports. Can someone explain whats the gap/ Or they two different types of reports? I am really scratching my head.

[gcformeornot]

hmm,, I think I am totally confused with the reports. DOL reports vs USCIS reports. Can someone explain whats the gap/ Or they two different types of reports? I am really scratching my head.

this is DOS report.... which shows how many EB visas they allotted in FY2009. USCIS report is for pending 485 applications......

[MDix]

10K visas from Family category to Employment for FY 2010. That's good news. So EB2 will get 7k extra visas provided EB4,EB5 and EB1 don't use them.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV_1.pdf

Report of the Visa Office 2009 now available @

Report of the Visa Office 2009 Table of Contents (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/statistics/statistics_4594.html)


Thanks,
MDix

[spicy_guy]

However we think of it, the fact is EB3 I is screwed a BIG time !!!

I sent a couple of emails to our Congressmen on this issue, and I am going to meet him personally with a few other folks around here to discuss about this issue.

I think everyone should come forward and meet their congressmen and get them to know how screwed we are and associated problems we have. Not specifically EB3, but as a whole.

Don't flash me saying "We are small in number", "we don't represent a bit vote bank", "they have bigger issues to focus on than this one", etc stuff. We can make an impact!

Go ahead and put your reds on me :D

[waitingmygc]

Not sure about good news and confused too.

What I understand is in year 2008 (http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableV.pdf) the numbers were more for India:
Country EB1 EB2 EB3
India 5,326 14,806 3,575
Total : ~24 K
Where as in 2009:
Country EB1 EB2 EB3
India 6672 10124 2306
Total: ~19 K

Agree with spicy_guy and others too. The only solution is come forward rather than expecting somebody else will do it for you.

[amitjoey]

The way forward is to educate our lawmakers. Please take time out to visit your local house rep or congresswo/man's office. It hardly takes 30 minutes. Please educate them on all the issues. IV advocacy packet is handy, take it with you.

[k3GC]

I still dont see how this totals to 140000? I have added the EB4 also

40,979
46,049
39,798
9,999

Where am i going wrong?

[willIWill]

10K visas from Family category to Employment for FY 2010. That's good news. So EB2 will get 7k extra visas provided EB4,EB5 and EB1 don't use them.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV_1.pdf
Mdix, Thanks for posting the Visa stats table link.

How do you infer the 10K family based from FY2009 will go to FY2010 EB category? Can you explain how this works?

[willIWill]

I still dont see how this totals to 140000? I have added the EB4 also

40,979
46,049
39,798
9,999

Where am i going wrong?
You have not included EB5 which totals to 141043. Look at the grand total at bottom of the report.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY09AnnualReport_TableV.pdf

[k3GC]

ah !!! another EB Category :), thanks for pointing that out.

[rkg000]

This is real funny to see how the desperate everyone on this forum is and how much they wanna do anything about it. Well some one is doing hard work of browsing and turning pages to look for the light at the end tunnel (well thats the incoming train LOL!!) on every website one can think of ...

Browsing and posting this data is not going to help anyone including YOU... yes !! YOU!!

Think more keeping back your penny saver brain at rest, did you get the "hint"
:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
[This is what this community is]

So, your point is........??

[psaxena]

Not sure if you use any other login .. as I cannot see any information on your profile.

If you really want to make an impact , volunteer and work with IV , together everyone will notice us and our voices will be heard.

Start your first step by becoming a recurring donor for IV ... we need a lot of money to fight this uphill battle, every penny contributed will be appreciated.


However we think of it, the fact is EB3 I is screwed a BIG time !!!

I sent a couple of emails to our Congressmen on this issue, and I am going to meet him personally with a few other folks around here to discuss about this issue.

I think everyone should come forward and meet their congressmen and get them to know how screwed we are and associated problems we have. Not specifically EB3, but as a whole.

Don't flash me saying "We are small in number", "we don't represent a bit vote bank", "they have bigger issues to focus on than this one", etc stuff. We can make an impact!

Go ahead and put your reds on me :D

[psaxena]

Are you so DUMB that you didn't get my point.. if yes then you deserve waiting forever.

So, your point is........??

[deepak]

Oh man!!!! Tell me you are kidding! Please PLEASE, not IQ based priority, darn!!!

psaxena, you break my heart ... guess I will just have to go back to standing at the side of the street and throwing rocks at the moon... sigh ...

Are you so DUMB that you didn't get my point.. if yes then you deserve waiting forever.

[hydboy77]

In 2008 when the economy was at its peak there were only 1443 total eb5 visas issued (http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableV.pdf), in 2009 when the economy was at its worst there were 4218 eb5 visas issed. At this rate I dont believe there will be any visas left over at all in 2010 for spillover from eb5. Looks like everybody is jumping into eb5 to get GC. Things might be much worser this time in 2010 with economy picking up.

[codehari]

Is there a way to check data of the visas issues for 2007, 2006, 2005 and 2004?

Thanks

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[QUOTE=waitingmygc;1129325]Not sure about good news and confused too.

What I understand is in year 2008 (http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableV.pdf) the numbers were more for India:
Country EB1 EB2 EB3
India 5,326 14,806 3,575
Total : ~24 K
Where as in 2009:
Country EB1 EB2 EB3
India 6672 10124 2306
Total: ~19 K

[baba2s]

Is there a way to check data of the visas issues for 2007, 2006, 2005 and 2004?

Thanks



here is the link.. Visa Statistics (http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/statistics/statistics_1476.html)

[rkg000]

Are you so DUMB that you didn't get my point.. if yes then you deserve waiting forever.

What makes you think I am waiting for the GC dumbo.

[sandy_anand]

However we think of it, the fact is EB3 I is screwed a BIG time !!!

I sent a couple of emails to our Congressmen on this issue, and I am going to meet him personally with a few other folks around here to discuss about this issue.

I think everyone should come forward and meet their congressmen and get them to know how screwed we are and associated problems we have. Not specifically EB3, but as a whole.

Don't flash me saying "We are small in number", "we don't represent a bit vote bank", "they have bigger issues to focus on than this one", etc stuff. We can make an impact!

Go ahead and put your reds on me :D

Gave you red at your request...just kidding! :D

[pappu]

Good that DOS confirmed what we posted a month ago on the donor forum about 10K visas spillover from FB category.

With more Pre-adjudicated applications this year, let us hope that the updated USCIS numbers published will provide more accuracy and DOS publishes more predictable visa bulletins based on the published numbers. We can then compare the both and provide better analysis on the pending data Vs Visa bulletin movement. The new updated USCIS data is also expected to be published to help us get a better idea on pending numbers.

[chi_shark]

just curious... is your profile picture from a hot night on second life? ha ha ha...

[MDix]

Total Family Visas for 2009 was aprox 226k out of that according to report they used only 216K so the leftover 10k from 2009 will got EB for FY 2010.


This is just FYI and it migh have worked or not I on't know, just wnated to share.

For the Visa Report I used to sent them Email Every day in fact I used to call them here is one sample response I used to get them from every day.

This is the only response you will receive from the State Department Visa Office.



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We have found that 95% of the inquiries we receive are readily answered by information available on our website. This response is designed to help you better access that information.

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Mdix, Thanks for posting the Visa stats table link.

How do you infer the 10K family based from FY2009 will go to FY2010 EB category? Can you explain how this works?

[alterego]

Every Year South Korea gets more than 7% visa in both Eb2 and EB3. South Korea should be retrogressed. In fact in 2009 they got 3,571 EB3 Visas and India only got 2222 Visas. Simillary South Korea got 4991 Visa in EB2 and China got only 3046 Visas.

I think its not legal to assign Korea more than 7% visas is other countries are retrogressed.

Also Philippines was assigned 5266 EB3 Visas which is also wrong.

I agree that the South Korea EB2/3 numbers appear high for a non retrogressed country.
I mean no ill will toward our SK colleagues, but we all are/have been waiting in a painfully long line and would like the rules to be interprested as written. Anything else is indefensible.
For nearly 5K visas to be issued in EB2 SK while EB2 India and China remained retrogressed though out the year, needs some explaining. That Eb2I got so many in the end is irrelevant in the law.
As per this data, EB2 SK should really be having some moderate retrogression. This is where clarification about Quarterly spillover would be useful, ideally number usage also would be published quarterly. This would allow a redress of issues like this were they to emerge before the end of the fiscal year at which point it is too late. The rules are the rules, surely transparency in their implementation is in order.

[u.misc]

I agree that the South Korea EB2/3 numbers appear high for a non retrogressed country.
I mean no ill will toward our SK colleagues, but we all are/have been waiting in a painfully long line and would like the rules to be interprested as written. Anything else is indefensible.
For nearly 5K visas to be issued in EB2 SK while EB2 India and China remained retrogressed though out the year, needs some explaining. That Eb2I got so many in the end is irrelevant in the law.
As per this data, EB2 SK should really be having some moderate retrogression. This is where clarification about Quarterly spillover would be useful, ideally number usage also would be published quarterly. This would allow a redress of issues like this were they to emerge before the end of the fiscal year at which point it is too late. The rules are the rules, surely transparency in their implementation is in order.

Well why are we assuming that EB2 and EB3 visas that went to South Korea were issued to applications with very recent Priority Date.

It may have very well happened that all of the EB2/EB3 Philippines and SK were stuck in labor backlog (or namecheck) for long time and recently benefited from spillover.
USCIS might have honored the 7% cap but since there is no way to know the priority date of the recent spillover beneficiaries.

The good thing in the report is that 10,000 spillover from 2009 Family Based visa numbers would benefit EB2 India.


Cheers!!!

[willIWill]

How does the FB to EB spillover work ?

I'm still not clear on the FB spill over going to EB category for the next year. May be MDIX tried to explain it, but wasn't clear how the unused visas of a previous year goes to the next year i.e. 2009 to 2010.

My understanding was that, whatever the category of unused visas, it goes waste at the end of the year and does not apply to the next year. If that is not the case, then I don't understand the interpretation of the law or the content of the proposed recapture bill. If I am missing something can someone point me to this law or an article explaining this statute ?

Thanks.

[desi3933]

How does the FB to EB spillover work ?

I'm still not clear on the FB spill over going to EB category for the next year. May be MDIX tried to explain it, but wasn't clear how the unused visas of a previous year goes to the next year i.e. 2009 to 2010.

My understanding was that, whatever the category of unused visas, it goes waste at the end of the year and does not apply to the next year. If that is not the case, then I don't understand the interpretation of the law or the content of the proposed recapture bill. If I am missing something can someone point me to this law or an article explaining this statute ?

Thanks.

Read this
USCIS - USCIS' Role in the Visa Process (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=71f24d6c52c99110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=68439c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD)

Look for: The annual limit for employment-based visas is 140,000 plus any family-based preference visas that went unused in the prior fiscal year.


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Not a legal advice.

[willIWill]

Thanks Desi3933 and Mdix for answering my question. Rated you both. Also I found the below article in the IV's own when will I get my green card section that explains it.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/lpr_fr_2008.pdf (http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/lpr_fr_2008.pdf).