Obama Immigration speech Thursday

[pbuckeye]

Originally Posted by Administrator2

In this admin fix initiative we are working on other possible good provisions that are possible.

Is the following (or can it be) a part of the Admin Fix Initiative? :-

Allow I-485 filing and/or obtaining EAD,AP benefits when I-140 is approved irrespective of priority date being current. This will help many of us who missed the July 07 boat.

[TeddyKoochu]

Originally Posted by kartikiran

teddy the pun "multi-national managers(via L1A)" was intended. if that makes it clear.

anyway, the focus of this thread was about the president's immigration speech. Atleast the speech included the fact that illegal immigration makes a mockery of legal immigration. understood that any solution also must include finding a way on how to handle the undocumented people.

anyway, the speech for now might be just a start or more "kick in the butt" to let the congress know that they need to start work in CIR. when it comes to fruition is anybody's guess.

Thanks for clarifying !

[immig4me]

Should we run another targeted phone campaign to the Republican Senators (the 11 that supported previous CIR)? IV team, let us know

[gk_2000]

Originally Posted by immig4me

Should we run another targeted phone campaign to the Republican Senators (the 11 that supported previous CIR)? IV team, let us know

Reform Immigration For America has already launched their fax campaign. This would be the ideal time for a mass scale campaign...

[h1techSlave]

I thought Obama administration has practically stopped all kinds of enforcement activities. For example mandating e-verify on all employment. Such a move would not punish the undocumented directly, but only the employers. But Obama administration is filing law suit against States who have mandatory e-verify.

Originally Posted by eastindia

Undocumented Immigration can be solved within a week. But no politician or anti-immigrant wants to talk about it.

SIMPLY PUNISH THE EMPLOYERS EMPLOYING UNDOCUMENTED.

Just put some US citizens who hire undocumented in Jail and then nobody will hire undocumented. All undocumented problem will be solved. But nobody wants to enforce laws on US Citizens. But everyone wants to enforce laws on undocumented because they do not see these undocumented as human beings.

Instead of deporting 14 million undocumented, and wasting money on this. Just punish 1 thousand US citizens for employing undocumented. I am sure you will see some hidden anti-immigrants being jailed too. The greedy employers promote undocumented immigration by employing them, exploiting them and paying less salary. Why not punish the employers.

No anti immigration site wants to actively work on this action item. WHY?

[Green_Always]

Our Indian Media says as follows :

Did Obama really Pledge on this ??? I dont know.


Barack Obama pledges to fix the broken immigration system


Barack Obama pledges to fix the broken immigration system - US - World - The Times of India

[dealsnet]

May be a PUBLICITY STUNT.


Barack Obama pledges to fix the broken immigration system - US - World - The Times of India
WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obama on Thursday pledged to fix the "broken" immigration system of America to make it easier for the best and the brightest of the people to enter the country, that has nearly 11 million illegal immigrants.

In his first major policy speech on immigration, Obama revealed the broad contours of his vision of reform, which if implemented would be helpful to hundreds and thousands of people from countries like India, who are professionals and law abiding and add value to the American society.

"We should make it easier for the best and the brightest to come to start businesses and develop products and create jobs. Our laws should respect families following the rules, instead of splitting them apart," Obama said.

"We need to provide farms a legal way to hire the workers they rely on, and a path for those workers to earn legal status," he said.

The president said the system should stop penalising innocent young people for the actions of their parents, by denying them the chance to stay and contribute to build the country.

He said the presence of about 11 million illegal immigrants makes a mockery of all those who are going through the process of immigrating legally.

"Indeed, after years of patchwork fixes and ill-conceived revisions, the legal immigration system is as broken as the borders. Backlogs and bureaucracy means the process can take years," he observed.

He was quick to add that immigration reform has been held hostage to political posturing and special interest wrangling and to the pervasive sentiment in Washington that tackling such a thorny and emotional issue is inherently bad politics.

The president said besides addressing the issue of illegal immigrants, a reformed system also needs to address the need for talented people to stay and contribute to the country.

"While an applicant waits for approval, he or she is often forbidden from visiting the US, which means even husbands and wives may be forced to spend many years apart... High fees and need for lawyers may exclude worthy applicants.

"While we provide students from around the world visas to get engineering and computer science degrees at our top universities, our laws discourage them from using those skills to start a business or power a new industry right here in the United States," Obama said.

He said instead of training entrepreneurs to create jobs, "we train our competition", adding: "In sum, the system is broken, and everybody knows it".

[gk_2000]

Originally Posted by immig4me

Should we run another targeted phone campaign to the Republican Senators (the 11 that supported previous CIR)? IV team, let us know

IV Team, a campaign has been let loose by numbersusa. It would be wise to for us to act too IMHO

[dummgelauft]

Originally Posted by eastindia

Undocumented Immigration can be solved within a week. But no politician or anti-immigrant wants to talk about it.

SIMPLY PUNISH THE EMPLOYERS EMPLOYING UNDOCUMENTED.

Just put some US citizens who hire undocumented in Jail and then nobody will hire undocumented. All undocumented problem will be solved. But nobody wants to enforce laws on US Citizens. But everyone wants to enforce laws on undocumented because they do not see these undocumented as human beings.

Instead of deporting 14 million undocumented, and wasting money on this. Just punish 1 thousand US citizens for employing undocumented. I am sure you will see some hidden anti-immigrants being jailed too. The greedy employers promote undocumented immigration by employing them, exploiting them and paying less salary. Why not punish the employers.

No anti immigration site wants to actively work on this action item. WHY?

..eastindia babu, for once , I agree with you.. 100%

[nagamani]

Originally Posted by go_guy123

Publicity stunt before the elections ?

Arizona type law should be passed by all the states. Dems should be out of office. All illigals including I -485 's in line should be kicked out.

[GCHope2011]

Originally Posted by oscarzumaran

Obama is probably the worst President we have had in history OR may be his advisors are to be blamed. All they want to do is stop and punish business and then get votes by giving illegals free stuff. Legal residents spend at least $10-20K to remain legal and these freaking democrats want illegals to pay $500 and get citizenship (not even just GC).
Vote out all democrates in the coming elections. GOP is the only party that cares about America - not just for short term votes.

When you complain about latino or hispanics - everyone says this is not only about hispanics....many other nationalities are illegally here....but then only hispanic cacacus gets a meeting with Obama to push their illegal agenda forward.

NO AMNESTY - yes, we can!

What is this crap about immigration laws splitting families - how are the laws splitting families? Why can't the illegal resident in the US go back home to their family and the issue is solved. We don't need JPL labs or NASA to get involved (not rocket science).

We can deport 11 million illegals by enforcing CURRENT immigration law and arresting and heavily ($50000 or extra jail time) for employers that employ illegals - knowingly or unknowingly. The burden should be on the employer to find out. Slowly, without jobs latinos (yes, the majority of illegals) will start leaving...going back - self deportation.

While we may have our personal views on the efficacy or effectiveness of the US political system and the politicians, we should refrain from using this forum to cast aspersions on individual actors and parties in the system or painting them with a broad brush. No system is perfect, and the US politics and the political system is no different. On the whole, it does seem to work better and in a more civilized way than in other countries most of the times.

We are an advocacy forum and need the support of everyone in the political system for our cause. Bad mouthing people certainly does not win friends who can help us.

[satyasrd]

pbuckeye,

I am with you on this and am willing to put in efforts for bringing some relief to all those patiently waiting to file their I-485. Unfortunately, whenever I bring up this topic I get no support from anyone. I don't think people waiting to file I-485 realize that possible wait times could range from 5,6 years to even a 20 ! Everyone has their hopes set on a mirage called CIR.

Originally Posted by pbuckeye

Is the following (or can it be) a part of the Admin Fix Initiative? :-

Allow I-485 filing and/or obtaining EAD,AP benefits when I-140 is approved irrespective of priority date being current. This will help many of us who missed the July 07 boat.

[Nil]

Immigration and tech: The White House speaks out | Signal Strength - CNET News

[av2004]

Friends, I read this article which is an opinion about President's immigration speech and loved most of it (coz it was quite unbiased and straightfoward opinion): Obama Fails to the Illegal-Immigration Circle - Victor Davis Hanson - The Corner on National Review Online

[peacocklover]

Originally Posted by pbuckeye

Is the following (or can it be) a part of the Admin Fix Initiative? :-

Allow I-485 filing and/or obtaining EAD,AP benefits when I-140 is approved irrespective of priority date being current. This will help many of us who missed the July 07 boat.

After listening to his crystal cut views about fixing broken immigration system, my confidence level is boosted and felt like Dr.Obama has guts to deal this challenging CIR initiative for the better future of immigrants and for families of all of those hardworking smart legal immigrants who have been waiting for approvals from past 10 years. Hope it's not alluring speech for his upcoming elections. Problem clearly persists with politicians who don't like our EB VISA applicant community.

I think these following things should be the high priority items for IV core team and to all of us. People who have been patiently waiting to file for 485 since JULY 2007 are loosing hopes based on ongoing immigration trends. I think that it would take at least another 2 or 3 years to pass the CIR and to see it's law in action if GOP fellas have guts and to let this pass it successfully. I think that we should focus on two things to minimize the damage to our personal and professional lives.

I think one quick solution for fixing the issue of century old broken immigration system of USCIS is by allowing disciplined and long waited legal immigrant applicant to file for 485 application once his/her (I-140) application is approved. (Technically, I-140 is the real application for employment based green card. It makes sense for allowing applicant to file for AOS application (I-485 for personal information). this is justifiable with the current USCIS practice as USCIS doesn't approve his/her green card even if his/her PD ( Priority Date) is current unless they have visas to allocate for the case, so it should make prefect sense for 140 approved applicants to allow them to file for I-485)

Another thing is about huge EB backlogs for this broken system , that can be fixed temporarily by supporting and passing the recapture bill which allocates visas of those unused and wasted around 400K immigrant visas of last several years..