Possible new bill to put more restrictions on us

[senthil1]

If they want to Ban outsourcing then they can ban L1 and also restrict h1b such that H1b cannot be used for outsourcing. Actually H1b is not meant for outsourcing but companies are using that. They should not allow H1b for rotating. For rotating people there are more visas like L1 and B1.

Originally Posted by svr_76

I think their rationale is valid. If "Indian Outsourcing" firms are the largest consumers of these visa types, it a double whammy for US. #1 Work is being shipped offshore #2 They bring in "onsite coordinators" as well as programmers on the H1B Visa. It should be either/or case and not both. I was reading an article on economictimes where Satyam HR/communication person said that they were moving "support staff" from onsite location back to India. I was rather surprising that the employer itself is refering to H1-B visa holders as "support staff". If they really were support staff why should they be on H1b?

[Tito_ortiz]

Yes, things will get tougher. That is natural because the good old days are gone for while. I remind myself that back home is home. Why should I stay in a country that people in general are against me? Very soon I can notice people at work laying off foreigners given the pressure and hostility imposed by the American society.

Originally Posted by sanju

If recent developments and reports are any indicators of whats going to hit us soon, here is a today's article in Business week -

http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...pStories_ssi_5

"Senators Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), who have been among the program's chief critics, say they plan to reintroduce legislation to change the program by the beginning of April. That bill would require all companies getting H-1B visas to try to hire Americans first and place restrictions on companies that attempt to use H-1B visas for outsourcing. "I am not against immigration…but I don't want H-1B to be used as subterfuge," says Grassley. "I want to make sure that every employer searches to make sure there is no American available to do the job." They introduced a similar bill in 2007, but it was not enacted."


Tighten your belts, we are all in for a very tough ride ahead ....

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[gcisadawg]

Originally Posted by senthil1

If they want to Ban outsourcing then they can ban L1 and also restrict h1b such that H1b cannot be used for outsourcing. Actually H1b is not meant for outsourcing but companies are using that. They should not allow H1b for rotating. For rotating people there are more visas like L1 and B1.

Senthil,

Pls. update your profile! We need Quality data!!!! Your data would increase the quality!

-G

[gc28262]

Outsourcing industry will figure out a way around this. Outsourcing industry needs H1Bs/L1s when they work in onshore/offshore model. What if they switch to 100% offshore model ? Probably that is what they are going to do. They have enough staff with international exposure. In addition people kicked out from US due to irrational H1B enforcement will join their ranks.

Finally who is the loser ? American job market and the hapless H1B slave workers in US !

[svr_76]

I am not saying ban Outscourcing. Nor do they. Their intension is to not allow BOTH. Outsourcing of jobs + onsite presence of employee who were recruited (from Outsourced country w/o due US procedures).

I have worked for Indian Outsourcing company (top 5) for 8 years now (Coordinated more that 20,000 man-hours of work as onsite coordinator). Irony is those 8 years I come here on three different VISAs B1, then L1 and then H1. During all those times, I was doing the same work.

Someone above said If Amercian do onsite coordination it will fail. Why would it? Is it because Indians working as Onsite Coordinator is easily pressurized into working 70 hours a week...having to pick calls late in the night?

Oneway to solve this was the Infosys exCEO (Murthy's) suggestion of creating a new Visa category "S" which will be used by these companies. It will inherit the limitation of L1 (no jumping) and will be temporarily (as its the case with Projects). Projects are temporary engagements.

[my2cents]

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Originally Posted by sanju

That is what "you" think, which is different from what Grassley and Durbin think. What matters is what Grassley and Durbin think. They don't care what anyone of us "think". You cannot convince these people by branding yourself "technical pool of a good to high quality" just as you cannot quench your thirst by speaking the word "water".

If you think that they want to weed out "fake" people only, you will soon learn better than that. Till then, lets continue to live in fool's paradise believing what we want to believe.


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Well -why don't they put quota on F1 Visa - ? Any restriction on H1b will negatively impact on flow of student on F1 Visa.

Personally, i think any kind of restriction on H1b will be passed into law only after heavy negotiation btw pro/anti (legal) senators.

- Will impact mostly on Outsourcing/Bodyshoppers companies
- No significant impact on US companies or us graduate - F1 student contribute to $14B
- Acceralate path to green card/H1B for masters holders

I think senator negotiated btw E-Verify and H1B restriction and they chose to drop E-Verify because it impact a very large pool of labor (illegal/legal both). Anti H1b was kept for public show. it impact is almost negligible. it is mostly symbolic. F1 student can still work in those TARP funded companies as OPT since OPT is 29 months. Yes there will be some impact on few H1B holders.

One thing is sure US can not develop any long term policy to keep F1 Student away. AC-21 and Labor filed 365 days before 6 year, 29th month OPT are different ways to keep pool here. Visa rules was modified in 2006 to relax non immigrant intent for F1 student.

[svr_76]

EVerify was dropped because of the power of the Hisp Causus. Without CIR, EVerify will not pass. Also remember, in the coming 10-15 years that community will become a major Vote bank. Hence both parties are trying to date her.

[sanju]

Look for the clues in the President speech tonight. I guess it may spell out what he may be thinking about this issue.

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[gauravsh]

Guys, I am working for a american company for last 3 years. They holdds my H1 and my I140 is approved.
I am alone DBA for that company and all the stuffs regarding to database/OS lies on my hands.

My h1 is getting expired on June 09. I know company is heavily dependent on me and they are very nice people and coperating. Even they allow me to work from India from time to time.

But with recent developments, I started to feel its worthless to live here. What I am getting here, daily tensions, away from my home, mechanical life, wife cannot work...

I a have started seriously thinking to move back and say my employer if you want me than I can work from India.

Any comments on this will be more than welcome.