HR 3012 general discussion since April 2012

[dts]

Originally Posted by digital2k

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[vsrinir]

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[Suva]

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[neel_gump]

Originally Posted by psychedelicNerd

I do not know if this should be confidential or public information. I keep reading on various sites that such and such senators showed support for such and such bill. Is there a list of senators anywhere that currently have shown support for H.R. 3012? Ignore my message if this is something that should not be discussed openly or brought out loud in the open forums. I was just curious.

Any news update today?

[gk_2000]

White House, Republicans talk compromise - CNN.com

[gujju]

Originally Posted by gk_2000

White House, Republicans talk compromise - CNN.com

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .

[sdeshpan]

Originally Posted by gujju

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .

Yep, looks like the JOBS ACT only has some other 5-6 bills in the package, nothing about HR 3012. May be IV should look at getting our bill into that package.

http://majorityleader.gov/uploadedfi...ctOnePager.pdf

[gk_2000]

Originally Posted by gujju

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .

I kind-of hoped it is included among the start-up, small-business etc legislation..

[dts]

Originally Posted by gujju

This does not specify anything about HR3012 .

This is something encouraging although it does nto specify HR3012 specifically.
However it tells that there is something going on bills passed by house with bipartisan support. H3012 falls in this category.
Let us not frustred or disappoint by delay. Let us keep momentum up.
I have faith on IV leadership that they might be on top of all this happenings.

[amulchandra]

I do not see any updates or bumps to HR 3012 related threads. I am wondering are we playing dead or really dead? Couldn't stop myself from posting this. Sorry.

[dkshitij]

I am very proud of the hard work and persistence of IV. All my frustration and anger is directed towards the politicians who have not shown enough political will or leadership. But given the right framing and opportunity they will act. So we have to continue to push and work hard and make it possible for them to vote on it.

We should not care if there is media hype about our bill. If it is talked about in all the news outlet etc. We should only care if the politicians are hearing us out and moving towards passing the bill. All the info that IV has given us indicates that we are moving in the right direction. So let us keeping on marching!

[Suva]

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HR3012 might be on the Senate floor soon as jobs bills are next on the agenda as per the article below.

Boehner describes Obama meeting with congressional leaders as constructive - TheHill.com

[DallasBlue]

Originally Posted by Suva

Done AI today.

HR3012 might be on the Senate floor soon as jobs bills are next on the agenda as per the article below.

Boehner describes Obama meeting with congressional leaders as constructive - TheHill.com

Part of 'Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth' , the gentlemen from Iowa should remove the hold , because ,

• HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors and programmers to get job mobility and go on to research new products and services
  
• will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the economy
  
• will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve economy, (will also bloster the housing loans market )
  
• will help them spend more with the greater sense of security then they will have now
  
• will make the best and brightest to be remain here and rather than compete or start companies elsewhere
  
• will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally
  

cant think more at this time,some of the above points may be bad , can you all guys add or improve upon these points

[DallasBlue]

did i add that , i will start my start my company in Iowa if HR3012 passes or not.
May be yo'll should start biotech, hedge fund, finance solutions , etc companies in Iowa too :-)

[dts]

Originally Posted by gfor_gc

Speculating:

Ways to pass HR 3012:

1. Grassley uncle removes the hold, it passes Senate with a fillibuster proof majority.
2. Invoke cloture.
3. Add HR 3012 to jobs bill or other popular bills once they have cleared house.

What about Irish issue? Isn't that also a hurdle? or is it useful weapon?
Irish lobby and their supporter senators have taken H.R.3012 as hostage to pass their own provisions since three months.

Several websites which are pro Irish , claim that Irish lobby is very powerful . But since three months they are not able to get support from Senators for
their provisions.

Should IV start action Item to pressurize and convince Senators ( Chuck Schummer, Scott Brown ???) who are holding H.R.3012 to include Irish provision.

IV should work out plan to convince Senators to drop controversial amendments in non controversial bill and get bill for voting or cloture as early as possible.
Except few Senators, no one is in oppose of 3012. It can easily pass cloture.

I am just giving suggestions and my opinion for which people may not agree and it is up to Ultimately IV team to decide on AI.