HR 3012 general discussion since April 2012

[shyamuk1235]

E-3 visa bill finally dicthed us and going alone....
E3 backers will try again for visa bill

Will this help us eventually?

Where are we with our bill?

[bibliophile2020]

I consulted my Jyotish, he inturn consulted his pet parrot. He says that the stars are going to align perfectly and that HR 3012 is going to pass the senate by the end of the next month

[bibliophile2020]

Sorry guys, I can't help but to come up with some humor out of pitiful situation we are in.

[thomachan72]

Originally Posted by bibliophile2020

Sorry guys, I can't help but to come up with some humor out of pitiful situation we are in.

Laughter is the best medicine

[gk_2000]

Originally Posted by bibliophile2020

I consulted my Jyotish, he inturn consulted his pet parrot. He says that the stars are going to align perfectly and that HR 3012 is going to pass the senate by the end of the next month

parrot.. meaning.. popat?

[DallasBlue]

HR3012 is Part of 'Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth' , the gentlemen Senator from Iowa should remove the hold , because ,

• HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors and programmers to get job mobility and go on to research new products, start new businesses and services , thus improving national economy.
• will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the US national economy
• will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve the national economy, (will also bloster the housing loans)
• will help them spend more with the greater sense of security than they will have now, improves overall consumer confidence and improves national economy
• will make the best and brightest to be remain here in USA, rather than compete or start companies elsewhere other than USA, will improve nations jobs.
• will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally thus improving
• will create more jobs when folks buy homes , improves the construction-building industry thus improves economy

This is a republican sponsored bill and has bipartisan support

[thomachan72]

Lets hope he does that. Unfortunately logic is not what directs actions at the capitol Hopefully IVs efforts will pay off.

[senram]

Probably there is chance upto Aug or September because of election. Final chance is lame duck session on end of the year. Lame duck session is the one when many bills were passed swiftly in past.

Originally Posted by bibliophile2020

I consulted my Jyotish, he inturn consulted his pet parrot. He says that the stars are going to align perfectly and that HR 3012 is going to pass the senate by the end of the next month

[giri26]

05/23/2012: STARTUP Act, S.3217, Introduced in the Senate on 05/22/2012 by Five (5) Senators (Bi-Partisan)

U.S. Senator Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), cosponsored by four other Senators, Mark Warner (D-Va.), along with Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Chris Coons (D-Del.), and Sen. Blunt, introduced yesterday Startup Act 2.0 – bipartisan legislation that picks up where the JOBS Act left off by doing more to jumpstart the economy through the creation and growth of new businesses. Startup Act 2.0 builds upon the original Startup Act, introduced by Sens. Moran and Warner in December 2011, and the AGREE Act, introduced by Sens. Coons and Rubio in November 2011.
Startup Act 2.0 includes the following provisions:
Creates a new STEM visa so that U.S.-educated foreign students, who graduate with a master’s or Ph.D. in science, technology, engineering or mathematics, can receive a green card and stay in this country where their talent and ideas can fuel growth and create American jobs;
Creates an Entrepreneur’s Visa for legal immigrants, so they can remain in the United States, launch businesses and create jobs;
Eliminates the per-country caps for employment-based immigrant visas – which hinder U.S. employers from recruiting the top-tier talent they need to grow;
Makes permanent the exemption of capital gains taxes on the sale of startup stock held for at least five years – so investors can provide financial stability at a critical juncture of firm growth;
Creates a targeted research and development tax credit for young startups less than five years old and with less than $5 million in annual receipts. This R&D credit is designed to allow startups to offset employee taxes – freeing up resources to help these young companies expand and create jobs;
Uses existing federal R&D funding to support university initiatives designed to bring cutting-edge research to the marketplace more quickly where it can propel economic growth;
Requires all government agencies to conduct a cost-benefit analysis of all proposed “major rules” with an economic impact of $100 million or more. This new requirement will help determine the efficacy of regulations and their potential impact on the formation and growth of new businesses; and
Directs the U.S. Department of Commerce to assess state and local policies that aid in the development of new businesses. Through the publication of reports on new business formation and the entrepreneurial environment, lawmakers will be better equipped to encourage entrepreneurship with the most successful policies.
Please note that this bill includes elimination of per country limit for employment-based immigrant visas, which is currently stuck in the Senate in the form of H.R. 3012. Please also note that one of the co-sponsors is Senator Marco Rubio who is expected to introduce a watered-down DREAM bill in the Senate soon. The immigrant community was curious whether Senator Rubio will tie two bills (STARTUP bill and DREAM bill) together to make both bills successfully pass the Congress, but report indicates that Senator Rubio wants to see each of these two bills go on its separate and own path and separate merit. Hmm..... Interesting. Please stay tuned for the full text of the bill.

[sanju22577]

Originally Posted by giri26

05/23/2012: STARTUP Act, S.3217, Introduced in the Senate on 05/22/2012 by Five (5) Senators (Bi-Partisan)

U.S. Senator Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), cosponsored by four other Senators, Mark Warner (D-Va.), along with Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Chris Coons (D-Del.), and Sen. Blunt, introduced yesterday Startup Act 2.0 – bipartisan legislation that picks up where the JOBS Act left off by doing more to jumpstart the economy through the creation and growth of new businesses. Startup Act 2.0 builds upon the original Startup Act, introduced by Sens. Moran and Warner in December 2011, and the AGREE Act, introduced by Sens. Coons and Rubio in November 2011.
Startup Act 2.0 includes the following provisions:
Creates a new STEM visa so that U.S.-educated foreign students, who graduate with a master’s or Ph.D. in science, technology, engineering or mathematics, can receive a green card and stay in this country where their talent and ideas can fuel growth and create American jobs;
Creates an Entrepreneur’s Visa for legal immigrants, so they can remain in the United States, launch businesses and create jobs;
Eliminates the per-country caps for employment-based immigrant visas – which hinder U.S. employers from recruiting the top-tier talent they need to grow;
Makes permanent the exemption of capital gains taxes on the sale of startup stock held for at least five years – so investors can provide financial stability at a critical juncture of firm growth;
Creates a targeted research and development tax credit for young startups less than five years old and with less than $5 million in annual receipts. This R&D credit is designed to allow startups to offset employee taxes – freeing up resources to help these young companies expand and create jobs;
Uses existing federal R&D funding to support university initiatives designed to bring cutting-edge research to the marketplace more quickly where it can propel economic growth;
Requires all government agencies to conduct a cost-benefit analysis of all proposed “major rules” with an economic impact of $100 million or more. This new requirement will help determine the efficacy of regulations and their potential impact on the formation and growth of new businesses; and
Directs the U.S. Department of Commerce to assess state and local policies that aid in the development of new businesses. Through the publication of reports on new business formation and the entrepreneurial environment, lawmakers will be better equipped to encourage entrepreneurship with the most successful policies.
Please note that this bill includes elimination of per country limit for employment-based immigrant visas, which is currently stuck in the Senate in the form of H.R. 3012. Please also note that one of the co-sponsors is Senator Marco Rubio who is expected to introduce a watered-down DREAM bill in the Senate soon. The immigrant community was curious whether Senator Rubio will tie two bills (STARTUP bill and DREAM bill) together to make both bills successfully pass the Congress, but report indicates that Senator Rubio wants to see each of these two bills go on its separate and own path and separate merit. Hmm..... Interesting. Please stay tuned for the full text of the bill.

its election drama only hope in H R 3012

[CaliHoneB]

When the Irish visa bill was in full swing didn't our beloved senator from Iowa say that he will remove the hold on H.R.3012 if Irish bill is modified in certain way? Since there is no Irish bill shouldn't the senator remove the hold now? Of course I don't expect anyone on this forum to know the answer but I am just wondering..

Originally Posted by DallasBlue

HR3012 is Part of 'Encourage Entrepreneurship and Growth' , the gentlemen Senator from Iowa should remove the hold , because ,

• HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors and programmers to get job mobility and go on to research new products, start new businesses and services , thus improving national economy.
• will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the US national economy
• will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve the national economy, (will also bloster the housing loans)
• will help them spend more with the greater sense of security than they will have now, improves overall consumer confidence and improves national economy
• will make the best and brightest to be remain here in USA, rather than compete or start companies elsewhere other than USA, will improve nations jobs.
• will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally thus improving
• will create more jobs when folks buy homes , improves the construction-building industry thus improves economy

This is a republican sponsored bill and has bipartisan support

[go_guy123]

Originally Posted by CaliHoneB

When the Irish visa bill was in full swing didn't our beloved senator from Iowa say that he will remove the hold on H.R.3012 if Irish bill is modified in certain way? Since there is no Irish bill shouldn't the senator remove the hold now? Of course I don't expect anyone on this forum to know the answer but I am just wondering..

Irish Bill was just an excuse. Sen Grassley is in war with H1B visas....Period.

As such he is co sponsor to another immigration bill S.3245 to permanently reauthorize the EB-5 Regional Center Program, the E-Verify Program, the Special Immigrant Nonminister Religious Worker Program, and the Conrad State 30 J-1 Visa Waiver Program for International Medical Graduates.

He has no problem with immigration on the whole, just that he has issues with H1B , EB.

[Gandhi_II]

Ron Hira clearly has an influence on Senator Grassley. Perhaps we need to work with him to figure out what needs to be done to the system to attract the best and brightest. Obstructionist tactics to reform will be bad for the immigration system and for the US in the long run:

Ron Hira Provides Answers to Senator Grassley that Strengthen His Testimony Refuting Shortage Claims - Science Careers Blog

[senram]

The problem of companies like Microsoft,Oracle,Cisco,HP and Intel is they will do layoffs ruthlessly and next day they will give a statement that there is a Shortage of skills. That is the main reason Congress lost trust in their statements for past several years.Really the job opportunities and growth are in medium companies and startups. So if you rely on the influence of big tech companies for passing a immigration bill that is going to be difficult. Need to get accurate scientific data to prove there is a shortage of skills to pass bills like STEM. Otherwise anti immigrants will have upper hand on the data and will prevent any immigration bill.

Originally Posted by Gandhi_II

Ron Hira clearly has an influence on Senator Grassley. Perhaps we need to work with him to figure out what needs to be done to the system to attract the best and brightest. Obstructionist tactics to reform will be bad for the immigration system and for the US in the long run:

Ron Hira Provides Answers to Senator Grassley that Strengthen His Testimony Refuting Shortage Claims - Science Careers Blog

[bigboy007]

Originally Posted by senram

The problem of companies like Microsoft,Oracle,Cisco,HP and Intel is they will do layoffs ruthlessly and next day they will give a statement that there is a Shortage of skills. That is the main reason Congress lost trust in their statements for past several years.Really the job opportunities and growth are in medium companies and startups. So if you rely on the influence of big tech companies for passing a immigration bill that is going to be difficult. Need to get accurate scientific data to prove there is a shortage of skills to pass bills like STEM. Otherwise anti immigrants will have upper hand on the data and will prevent any immigration bill.

Person writing this doesnt understand the world of enterprise. Enterprise will never lose any talent that drives its business. They layoff sales, marketing and commodity resources. All the scarcity is in filling that talent, that is most important to business e.g. R&D. Just becoz they announced say for e.g. 2k layoffs doesnt mean they wont hire next day for critical sr. software engineer... Plans change every year based on market direction, i am not supporting their action but thats how enterprise runs. But there is always one data that will bite antis data if you stop immigration i know many companies which moved complete operations to Asian countries. Now is that good to US ? Never. There are many senators and congressman who understands this. Anyone saying otherwise will see the difference if not now.