HR 3012 general discussion since April 2012

[bigboy007]

Again our many ppl who are opposing current bills voted +vely on many immigration bills in the past including amnesty bills. So they change tunes based on what makes most sense to their donors. Its more than just winning against arguments.

[deepakd]

Is HR-3012 dead ?

[vsrinir]

The answer is " NO". But in reality we can feel what you said.

[deepakd]

Really looking upto IV for any update.
Don't want to act on any blind faith.

[snthampi]

Originally Posted by deepakd

Is HR-3012 dead ?

Unfortunately yes. People can argue and give inspirational speeches. But, the truth of the matter is that it is dead (killed).

[gk_2000]

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[dts]

Originally Posted by snthampi

Unfortunately yes. People can argue and give inspirational speeches. But, the truth of the matter is that it is dead (killed).

if it is taking last breaths, IV should start final do or die efforts like flower compaign or rally or something else..
Nothing to loose on our side..

[checkmet64]

Originally Posted by pappu

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IV core team and several of its volunteer members have been awake and burning midnight oil more than regular days in the last few months. There is nothing any public campaign and action item can achieve at this time. It is all now more focused advocacy work. This is why there is no public updates. Getting a bill passed takes a lot of time and effort. Wish it was easy but even to bring into house, we spent one whole year of focused hard work. Publicly on forums people only saw it a couple of weeks of work and action items. The only action item at this time is to support this organization continue this hard work to bring our end goal closer.. Please subscribe to monthly contribution if you have not. We are confident that with everyone's continued support we may we able to post public update for bringing relief soon enough. We all just need patience and faith. Nothing is impossible if there is a will.

Less than two weeks back we recieved an update from IV. Moreover, IV has said this repeatedly and it should be obvious to all IV members that giving out regular updates on public forum is detrimental for the cause at hand. I am confident that if there is an update that needs to be shared IV will share it regardless. I believe we can use this time more productively; anyway if IV says the effort has failed what else do you have? Please use this time to spread the work and advocate active support.

[senram]

It is not dead but stalled. It will be dead if it is failed in Senate vote or not taken until end of the year. Even if it is not passed in this year next year chance is bright as new congress comes. But I think there will be lot of discussion and negotiations in the background for this bill and also Irish E2 Visa bill in the coming months. Those times IV volunteers can work and try to push as much as possible.

Originally Posted by dts

if it is taking last breaths, IV should start final do or die efforts like flower compaign or rally or something else..
Nothing to loose on our side..

[sanju22577]

Originally Posted by snthampi

Unfortunately yes. People can argue and give inspirational speeches. But, the truth of the matter is that it is dead (killed).

if it dead it will rise............ every death have a resurrection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: p

[snthampi]

Originally Posted by sanju22577

if it dead it will rise............ every death have a resurrection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: p

Ya, Viagra helps resurrection of the dead, for real!!!

[sanju22577]

Originally Posted by snthampi

Ya, Viagra helps resurrection of the dead, for real!!!

Yes for HR 3012 viagra is IV Core

[madhu345]

I think we need to take it to next level raise awareness within our community and seek more support. I think our community leaders should demand 3012 during election campaign and fundraising events.

[sanju22577]

before labor day H.R 3012

yes :coo l:

[green_mile]

Originally Posted by sanju22577

before labor day H.R 3012

yes :coo l:

Until HR3012 came in to the picture, I had zero knowledge of American legislature process. Now I know atleast 5% of the process, and feel like is not an easy task to take the issue and make the lawmakers to hear your views let alone bringing the bill to the endless process of commitee/house/senate approvals.

This process requires dedicated representatives from immigration community. If you ask yoyurself a question about who is doing this, these are unsung heroes of IV Core. I felt like all other members including myself is not supporting the efforts of these guys enough.

We don't know all the background efforts of IV core, all we see is the end results (ex: House approval of the bill) , honestly minimum every one else can do is support the IV financially ( one of the easiest task) to keep the engine running.

Most of the IV core is already GC holders and they are taking their personal time to fight for fellow immigrants . I have 100% faith that one day HR3012 will become law and we all will enjoy the fruits of the fairness in process. Mean time all I can do is support the IV and help the soldiers (IV core) to fight for us.

If you feel like you have a stake in this fight please contribute to IV.