Timeline on CIR

[eb3_nepa]

Hello,

There was a lot of talk about the time between the passing of the CIR and it's implementation. I was wondering exactly how much time would it take from the time the bill was passed (assuming it had our provisions) and it actually becoming a law. Some say 3 months some say 6 months. What is the real number?

[Gravitation]

90 days after the Prez signs it, which he should fairly promptly after it's been ratified by both houses. However, all this is moot point -IMO- as the real sticky and unpredictable part is house and senate agreeing on the same bill, etc.

[eb3_nepa]

People on here mentioned that there was a special provision for a a further 3 month wait for the director of immigration studies to examine it. Is that true?

Now is 90 days a normal wait time, or is there something special in this bill?

[ragz4u]

So total is 90 days after Prez signs (normal for every bill) + 90 days (sessions amendment) = 6 months

[eb3_nepa]

Will IV be trying to campaign/lobby against the 180 day delay?

[ragz4u]

Originally Posted by eb3_nepa

Will IV be trying to campaign/lobby against the 180 day delay?

90 days is a US law for every bill. Again, I don't see what IV has to do with that!

The other 90 days is because of amendment. Unfortunately this amendment was unanimously approved by the SJC. Can't see how IV can campaign against something like this too! And I think its prudent to wait 3 more months than rankle some lawmaker about this. We need publicity, but not negative publicity!

In any case, we will stick ONLY to our agenda.

[posmd]

Sessions ammendment was for the previous SJC bill, which is dead right? I thought the basis of future bills is the Hagel Martinez compromise. Rest assured if it is, then the numbersusa agent in the senate Sessions will put that obstacle as an ammendment again, and since Dems already agreed it in SJC, it will probably take hold.
If I recollect it was 3 months for a review of the impact, then 3 months after that for implementation.
I am getting a little nervous about the CIR though. Not in the sense that it will be done or it won't. I just feel the USCIS will screw up its implementation very badly, and might end up causing our potential 3 yr waits to turn into 5-10 yr waits along with all these law breakers. We are already seeing the effect of 245i cases right now and that is a fraction of this tidal wave of illegals wanting legalisation.
In that sense a breakdown of CIR with some other resolution for our problem with PACE or TALENT might not be such a bad idea. It is like the old addage, be careful what you wish for.........!

[eb3_nepa]

Can ammendments be made to the bill in the 180 day waiting period? It was mentioned here before that ammendments can be made during that period.

[eb3_nepa]

I was reading this article.

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_law.html.

It's a great article and maybe we shud add it in our FAQ section.

If you scroll down to the heading "The Bill Becomes Law"

it says :

Officially, after the President signs the bill, 10 days passes without a signature, or after a veto override, the bill is considered law. It is in effect at that moment. But in reality, it is, of course, more difficult than that.

Even on the Wikipedia article listed in the FAQ there was no mention of a 90 day delay. Just wondering if Sen Sessions simply asked for a 90 day delay or a 180 day delay.

Check this out too.

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/lawsmade....sidential.html

"A bill becomes law on the date of approval or passage over the President's veto, unless it expressly provides a different effective date."

[GC092003]

I have same concerned. I have been waiting for too long to get my GC procee done. I can't live with current employer any longer. I am waiting for 1-485 to be filled. My PD is sept 03. Do you guys have any feeling if we can file it before this summer (like July)? Another concern is based on current situation with USCIS, it is about 8 month wait for I-485 to be processed. As you mentioned, it might be longer waiting time for this process since many people who had waited, will be filing. Please give me your feeling of feasibility date. Thanx.

[snalluri]

I think the bill becomes law immediately after president signs. But in case of states legislatures it has to wait 90 days after governor signs to become law.

[nviren]

The following doc, 'How the senate bill becomes a law' does not mention any waiting period after President's sign the bill to become a law

http://www.senate.gov/reference/reso...sflowchart.pdf

[eb3_nepa]

Originally Posted by nviren

The following doc, 'How the senate bill becomes a law' does not mention any waiting period after President's sign the bill to become a law

http://www.senate.gov/reference/reso...sflowchart.pdf

My point exactly.

So then maybe the wait is only the 3 months (90 days) that Sen Sessions wishes to impose, correct?

[admin]

Section 406(Pg 287) and Sec 619(Pg 503) of S 2612 discusses the effective date of the new rules. But these dates pertain only to provisions for the unskilled temporary worker program and the agricultural worker program. I think Session's amendments was for only these 2 categories. Other stuff like Border Security they would want to get it going at the earliest.

I have not read all 614 pages of the bill, but from whatever I have read it doesn't look like the bill is specifying any particular effective date for our provisions. So by default it should become effective immediately.

But please do note that because of various changes like the STEM exemptions, USCIS will take some time for rule making. So that might take some time.

[ragz4u]

Originally Posted by eb3_nepa

My point exactly.

So then maybe the wait is only the 3 months (90 days) that Sen Sessions wishes to impose, correct?

I just cannot recollect where I had read that the law has to be published somewhere and there is 90 days delay (when someone can comment if necessary) and only then it becomes a law. I could be absolutely wrong though

Also, Sessions was able to get an amendment passed last time since SJC was in a tearing hurry. That might not be the case this time and they might want to implement this bill soon to 'stem the flow across the borders'. Personally I cannot wait for some new bill to take effect.

I really wish that you are right about the first point and I am right about the second ;-)