EB2 China will be current soon

[gc_on_demand]

China has PD of Jan 2005. I checked Labor data for China for 2005 , 2006 and 2007 and they have some 15k approval for labor ( Eb2 + Eb3 + others ). if we assume 50 % of them are EB2 then only 7.5k for 3 years.

Last year they got 6900 or so in Eb2 . If they get that many visas they will touch 2008 soon. If 50 % projection is more then they may become current.

as a Big country they may not spare some visas for india for horizontal spill but atleast they may not share from spill.

India will get 3-4 k more Spill visa soon.. Date may move to early 2008 for India. (Eb2) Even though all people will not get GC.

[pointlesswait]

good deduction..
but expecting Eb2 india moving to 2008 is far fetched ..
i will be surprised if it even makes past mid 2004 by end of this year... there are ppl from 2001 getting their GCs..now..
unless USCIS shows some transperancy and releases the exact number...we can thrive on speculations..

Why wont they release the exact numbers of pending EB numbers.. why this secrecy??

Originally Posted by gc_on_demand

China has PD of Jan 2005. I checked Labor data for China for 2005 , 2006 and 2007 and they have some 15k approval for labor ( Eb2 + Eb3 + others ). if we assume 50 % of them are EB2 then only 7.5k for 3 years.

Last year they got 6900 or so in Eb2 . If they get that many visas they will touch 2008 soon. If 50 % projection is more then they may become current.

as a Big country they may not spare some visas for india for horizontal spill but atleast they may not share from spill.

India will get 3-4 k more Spill visa soon.. Date may move to early 2008 for India. (Eb2) Even though all people will not get GC.

[alkg]

And what about EB2 India.............?

India har baar peeche hi rahega ?????????

[gc_on_demand]

Originally Posted by alkg

And what about EB2 India.............?

India har baar peeche hi rahega ?????????

India has huge demand for Eb numbers. Even during 05-06-07 India has some 20 - 30k labor per year ( Eb based ) .

I think Chineese people are more propsprous in CHINA... I see less Chineese people in IT compare to 2002 - 03. If India become more attractive to us there will be less demand from india too.

Recently I heard on radio show that China will be no one this year on Student visa. If that the case then down the road (in 3-5 ) years again demand from China will equal to more to india.

[gc_on_demand]

Originally Posted by pointlesswait

good deduction..
but expecting Eb2 india moving to 2008 is far fetched ..
i will be surprised if it even makes past mid 2004 by end of this year... there are ppl from 2001 getting their GCs..now..
unless USCIS shows some transperancy and releases the exact number...we can thrive on speculations..

Why wont they release the exact numbers of pending EB numbers.. why this secrecy??

As per Lawer Ron who is in this filed for some 10- 20 years.. CIS never fulfill promises. Last time there was some new database or IT system was coming in Nov 2008. Still we didnot see comment in visa bulletin that USCIS has given excat no of pending application and we cannot move date or something.. I think towards end of year again they will move dates so CP filler can get GC. If some one will be lucky enough then they may get like people from 2006 got last year.

[Keeme]

Originally Posted by gc_on_demand

China has PD of Jan 2005. I checked Labor data for China for 2005 , 2006 and 2007 and they have some 15k approval for labor ( Eb2 + Eb3 + others ). if we assume 50 % of them are EB2 then only 7.5k for 3 years.

Last year they got 6900 or so in Eb2 . If they get that many visas they will touch 2008 soon. If 50 % projection is more then they may become current.

as a Big country they may not spare some visas for india for horizontal spill but atleast they may not share from spill.

India will get 3-4 k more Spill visa soon.. Date may move to early 2008 for India. (Eb2) Even though all people will not get GC.

Can you please get same nubmers for India ( EB2/3) ? Many EB2/3 got approved July 2007 Visa bulletin and this year also. Also when it became current last year, not all would have filed as approved labor is required to file I-485.

[MDix]

Originally Posted by gc_on_demand

China has PD of Jan 2005. . If 50 % projection is more then they may become current.
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I think it would be less than 50% (may be 25%) as very few of them work for Consultancy and big firm genreally dont file in EB2.

My gut feeling is that they will make both India/China Eb2 curent. Otherwise it will look so bad that only India EB2 is not current.

Thanks,
MDix

[hydboy77]

A vast number of EB3 India "consultants" working for Desi "companies" have already ported there eb3 dates to eb2 and because of this EB2 will not be current. I doubt it will even reach end of 2005 anytime soon. Non desi companies are not doing eb2 for IT but it is the desi "companies" and the "consultants" who work in these "companies" who have done these porting that have set the dates back. It is because of these desi "companies" and the "consultants" that DOL is putting restrictions on getting eb2 in IT. Anyway the damage has already been done. The problem with looking at EB2 perm approvals to guess if eb2 dates move forward is that it does not tell how many are from porting candidates. Atleast 50% of them are from desi "companies consultants" (just look at how many threads have been opened in IV by desi companies consultants asking for advise on how to porteb3 to eb2), so even tough they might have applied for eb2 in 06,07 or even 08 they are using 01,02 03 eb3 priority dates and jumping ahead of you. You dont have crooked chinese companies like desi companies that is why there is no porting going on in chinese eb2 whereas almost all the crooked desi comapnies and consultants are indulging in porting.

[vkannan]

Originally Posted by hydboy77

A vast number of EB3 India "consultants" working for Desi "companies" have already ported there eb3 dates to eb2 and because of this EB2 will not be current. I doubt it will even reach end of 2005 anytime soon. Non desi companies are not doing eb2 for IT but it is the desi "companies" and the "consultants" who work in these "companies" who have done these porting that have set the dates back. It is because of these desi "companies" and the "consultants" that DOL is putting restrictions on getting eb2 in IT. Anyway the damage has already been done. The problem with looking at EB2 perm approvals to guess if eb2 dates move forward is that it does not tell how many are from porting candidates. Atleast 50% of them are from desi "companies consultants" (just look at how many threads have been opened in IV by desi companies consultants asking for advise on how to porteb3 to eb2), so even tough they might have applied for eb2 in 06,07 or even 08 they are using 01,02 03 eb3 priority dates and jumping ahead of you. You dont have crooked chinese companies like desi companies that is why there is no porting going on in chinese eb2 whereas almost all the crooked desi comapnies and consultants are indulging in porting.

Wouldn't porting needs the applicant to start the process from Labor again? if that being the case as you speculate if there were bunch of porting is going on, atleast it should have started 2 years back for them to be in the AOS, I seriously doubt that would be the case......with Labor approval takign min. 6 -8 months these days and 140 another 8-10 months I doubt that there are that many ppl. ported from EB3 to EB2 will be in line for AOS....I think serious discussion on EB3 to EB2 porting started after Aug 2008.....

[vkannan]

Originally Posted by gc_on_demand

China has PD of Jan 2005. I checked Labor data for China for 2005 , 2006 and 2007 and they have some 15k approval for labor ( Eb2 + Eb3 + others ). if we assume 50 % of them are EB2 then only 7.5k for 3 years.

Last year they got 6900 or so in Eb2 . If they get that many visas they will touch 2008 soon. If 50 % projection is more then they may become current.

as a Big country they may not spare some visas for india for horizontal spill but atleast they may not share from spill.

India will get 3-4 k more Spill visa soon.. Date may move to early 2008 for India. (Eb2) Even though all people will not get GC.

I know you are speculating here, but your comments makes me feel good.....and raises my hope, for that alone I am giving u a green.
**ANOTHER VDLRAO IN MAKING :-)

[nayekal]

As far as I know, vertical split for unused EB1 numbers to EB2 started in April 2008,
so any one who wants to port based on this information will have to start with Labor,
for which it will take 3 months for advertising, then apply for labor. Assuming that
any body, who applied for labor, will get in 1 month, then it would be 04/01/2008 + 4
months = 08/01/2008, this is the time when some one can apply for I-140, which I am sure
will not be approved by this time.

My guess is EB2 porting never effected till now, but will effect in future, in case those
applicants got i-140 approvals will be eligible to apply in future.

But, my another guess is these applicants might have got their EB2 labor approvals and
by the time they applied and cases are in pending for I-140, we got this new rule for no EB2
for IT, might actually result in denials of EB2 I-140.

[godspeed]

Interesting observation, however so far there is a record of applying any new regulations to future applications only, so my guess is even though they will not deny straight away pending EB2 I-140, but may raise several queries.

Originally Posted by nayekal

As far as I know, vertical split for unused EB1 numbers to EB2 started in April 2008,
so any one who wants to port based on this information will have to start with Labor,
for which it will take 3 months for advertising, then apply for labor. Assuming that
any body, who applied for labor, will get in 1 month, then it would be 04/01/2008 + 4
months = 08/01/2008, this is the time when some one can apply for I-140, which I am sure
will not be approved by this time.

My guess is EB2 porting never effected till now, but will effect in future, in case those
applicants got i-140 approvals will be eligible to apply in future.

But, my another guess is these applicants might have got their EB2 labor approvals and
by the time they applied and cases are in pending for I-140, we got this new rule for no EB2
for IT, might actually result in denials of EB2 I-140.

[MDix]

Make Sense, gave green for that.

Originally Posted by nayekal

As far as I know, vertical split for unused EB1 numbers to EB2 started in April 2008,
so any one who wants to port based on this information will have to start with Labor,
for which it will take 3 months for advertising, then apply for labor. Assuming that
any body, who applied for labor, will get in 1 month, then it would be 04/01/2008 + 4
months = 08/01/2008, this is the time when some one can apply for I-140, which I am sure
will not be approved by this time.

My guess is EB2 porting never effected till now, but will effect in future, in case those
applicants got i-140 approvals will be eligible to apply in future.

But, my another guess is these applicants might have got their EB2 labor approvals and
by the time they applied and cases are in pending for I-140, we got this new rule for no EB2
for IT, might actually result in denials of EB2 I-140.

Thanks,
MDix

[pointlesswait]

the time period to come back in line..would be close to 2 years.. how many do u think have actually done that...since June 2007?????
u are spreading rumors...

Originally Posted by hydboy77

A vast number of EB3 India "consultants" working for Desi "companies" have already ported there eb3 dates to eb2 and because of this EB2 will not be current. I doubt it will even reach end of 2005 anytime soon. Non desi companies are not doing eb2 for IT but it is the desi "companies" and the "consultants" who work in these "companies" who have done these porting that have set the dates back. It is because of these desi "companies" and the "consultants" that DOL is putting restrictions on getting eb2 in IT. Anyway the damage has already been done. The problem with looking at EB2 perm approvals to guess if eb2 dates move forward is that it does not tell how many are from porting candidates. Atleast 50% of them are from desi "companies consultants" (just look at how many threads have been opened in IV by desi companies consultants asking for advise on how to porteb3 to eb2), so even tough they might have applied for eb2 in 06,07 or even 08 they are using 01,02 03 eb3 priority dates and jumping ahead of you. You dont have crooked chinese companies like desi companies that is why there is no porting going on in chinese eb2 whereas almost all the crooked desi comapnies and consultants are indulging in porting.

[pointlesswait]

when did that come into effect??????
or is it in the pipeline???