Any thoughts on EB3 India progress

[Openarms]

Any hopes in EB3 India priority date movement? Hope they work on some legislation

[srisra]

i am getting frustrated to see the bulletin everymonth and it never moves.
people applied in 2006 got their GCs. one of collegue ROW got when applied in 2007.

dont know whom to blame. why cant they understand our problems.
r they least bothered.

my PD is oct 2003-EB3

[ItIsNotFunny]

Originally Posted by srisra

i am getting frustrated to see the bulletin everymonth and it never moves.
people applied in 2006 got their GCs. one of collegue ROW got when applied in 2007.

dont know whom to blame. why cant they understand our problems.
r they least bothered.

my PD is oct 2003-EB3

Srisra,

Having PD earlier than you, I completely understand your frustration. But just talking about it is not going to help. We need to work as a team to fight this injustice. Follow all the action items.

[reddymjm]

Only way is Visa # recapture or USCIS Start interpreting the overflow rules as it was before 2007 or come up with some thing new to share between EB2/3.

[senthil1]

EB3 was like that most of the time. If you go back to 1995 all of the categories were current. China had cut off dates as more chinese than Indians were coming. From there number of H1bs were increased gradually.From 1997 they put cutoff dates and by the time 1999 things got worsened and there were 4 year waiting time and Many people were leaving country because of 6 year Cap of H1b. 1999 first time h1b cap was reached and 40% of them were Indians. In 1999 and 2000 demand for IT was so high and unemployment was record low US economy was in internet Boom. So congress realized that they need to do something. So they increased H1b(for 3 years) and recapture of GC and also AC21 was done. After Dot com Bust everything changed and outsourcing was so much and Indians were using 60% of H1b and equal number of L1. Still Indian H1b and L1 are increasing as there are more Indian consulting companies than H1b Cap numbers. So it will become worse for EB3 as there are so many restrictions of Eb2 unless congress increases GC quota. But it is going to be tough for any immigration reform as economy is very bad and unemployment is increasing. But if there is CIR there is a good chance of recapture bill to pass with CIR. Otherwise AC 21 is only way to survive here for those who filed I485.It is going to be challenging for those who not filed I485 as they have to survive as well they need to maintain immigration status

Originally Posted by srisra

i am getting frustrated to see the bulletin everymonth and it never moves.
people applied in 2006 got their GCs. one of collegue ROW got when applied in 2007.

dont know whom to blame. why cant they understand our problems.
r they least bothered.

my PD is oct 2003-EB3

[kartikiran]

Hello,

With me having a pd even prior to of Mar 2002-EB3I, I thought I will join hands with IV to make something happen. To the extent I went and joined the IV chapter too.

Unfortunately, starting with the forum to most of the news that is being discussed seems to be not related to immigration at all. Example, accidents, investments, real estate. I feel the admin should be able to control and strictly adhere to what ImmigrationVoice stands for and delete any other unrelated threads.

Anyway, long story short, I feel IV has lost its focus and feels like for people who are looking at a proper approach to resolving problems, the web site does not give any reason or confidence, to follow or join hands for IV activities.

Just my opinion. Feel free to agree to disagree whoever would like to.

Not trying to blame anybody here, but sharing a viewpoint. In my opinion IV was great sometime back, but feel now there is a lack of direction.

I understand there could be lot of negative & positive comments about my reply here or me joining activities etc or not joining IV initiatives etc. I will explain my stance on those later.

Thanks.

[nozerd]

Like you I had been waiting since 2005 (when my labor and I 140 got approved) for my PD to be current. Now that its been current since October 1, 2008 and even had been current in few months in early 2008 I realize that its just one more wait.
Nothing is going top happen by increasing quota unless USCIS speeeds up processing and decised to process based on a documented criteia (right now its completely random as TSC and NSC are out of synch and neither seems to follow any sequence of PD, ND or RD).
Me and others like me have been waiting since 2001 and we are still stuck even though PD is current. We have a special thread for us who are pre OCt 2001 PD and are still waiting. So if anything focus on getting USCIS to process orderly and efficiently. If you increase quota but dont change USCIS behaviour you will be worse off.

[arunmohan]

Originally Posted by nozerd

Like you I had been waiting since 2005 (when my labor and I 140 got approved) for my PD to be current. Now that its been current since October 1, 2008 and even had been current in few months in early 2008 I realize that its just one more wait.
Nothing is going top happen by increasing quota unless USCIS speeeds up processing and decised to process based on a documented criteia (right now its completely random as TSC and NSC are out of synch and neither seems to follow any sequence of PD, ND or RD).
Me and others like me have been waiting since 2001 and we are still stuck even though PD is current. We have a special thread for us who are pre OCt 2001 PD and are still waiting. So if anything focus on getting USCIS to process orderly and efficiently. If you increase quota but dont change USCIS behaviour you will be worse off.

Hello nozerd

Call your local congressman or Congresswoman and Senator. They will help your case. My friend was in same situation and they helped him. He got his GC in 2 months after calling his congressman.

Hello All:

This is a very sad for EB3, there is no movement since 2004 Dec except 2007 fiasco. Our best option is right now to send a letter to local congress member and Senator. Tell your story in the letter. When did you come, what is your investment, future investment, career stagnant and our life is hanging in the middle of no-where. I will suggest to everyone to send the same letter to Local news paper also. At least you will see some kind reponse from politician here. I have alwyas receive a response from house members and senators. I think we should send the same letter to Ombudsman too. This is my thoughts. If gorup have some other idea. Please let us know.

[kartikiran]

Arunmohan, this is exactly what I have been doing. Contacting local congressman and senator, but in vain. I agree with you that they respond, but it doesn't transfer to results. What I believe should be done, irrespective of EB2, EB3 etc are these following steps.
1) Local chapters prepare a letter to their local congressman and senators asking them to process gc backlogs in the order of labor filing date by USCIS. This is applicable to EB3 / EB2 / EB1 of any country. In respective categories GC with Pending I-485 applications should be processed by labor filing dates.
2) Conduct a month-long drive to make members visit a place nearby their residence to sign and fill their details along with the letter.
3) Send Original letter along with signatures to senator & copies to congressman/congresswoman.
4) Send copy of the same letter to the chapter nearest to washington d.c. and we should forward that copy to the president's office.

I know this sounds a lot. But this will be a co-ordinated effort & i am sure if we give members a month to sign, majority will be included and will be a co-ordinated effort from iv. but this is just my thought.

[gcisadawg]

FY EB1 EB2 EB3
2003 1,266 8,536 10,647
2004 2,998 16,262 19,889
2005 6,336 16,687 23,250
2006 3,156 3,720 3,006
2007 2,855 6,203 17,795
2008 5,327 14,819 3,576
21,938 66,227 78,163


Going forward, EB3 would be in 3000 to 4000 range unless we come together as a force and act.

[arunmohan]

Thanks gcisadawg for Stats. I do agree with gcisadawg , EB3 will get again 3000/4000.

I do agree with kartikiran, if we don't do team effort, it is not going to happen anything.

IV team: Please consider this, please make a plan and designate the people.

I am ready to do for AZ Senator and House members.

We start writing if someone open a new thread for EB3, that thread would be active for one or two days and after 2 days that thread would be dead.

Group please come together and keep this thread active.

[pappu]

Originally Posted by kartikiran

Hello,

With me having a pd even prior to of Mar 2002-EB3I, I thought I will join hands with IV to make something happen. To the extent I went and joined the IV chapter too.

Unfortunately, starting with the forum to most of the news that is being discussed seems to be not related to immigration at all. Example, accidents, investments, real estate. I feel the admin should be able to control and strictly adhere to what ImmigrationVoice stands for and delete any other unrelated threads.

Anyway, long story short, I feel IV has lost its focus and feels like for people who are looking at a proper approach to resolving problems, the web site does not give any reason or confidence, to follow or join hands for IV activities.

Just my opinion. Feel free to agree to disagree whoever would like to.

Not trying to blame anybody here, but sharing a viewpoint. In my opinion IV was great sometime back, but feel now there is a lack of direction.

I understand there could be lot of negative & positive comments about my reply here or me joining activities etc or not joining IV initiatives etc. I will explain my stance on those later.

Thanks.

kartikiran
We totally understand your point of view.
We feel we have more experience now than before and more members to take part in action items.
However we have felt that it has not been enough to bring the relief we need. For that we need more active members and more resources. I disagree that IV has lost focus. Few unrelated threads do not mean that is the opinion of IV. We would rather spend time doing IV work in this important year than policing the forums and banning people.

Infact through new features and upgrade of the site we are trying to provide what our members need on this site so that there is more participation on the effort when it is time. Our past experiences have told us that we need more numbers when it comes to letter writing, calling or rally. This is the reason we are trying to add new features on the site and look into the needs of the community. This is going to be our strategy this year and we seek member's help to get everyone outside of IV on IV platform. If someone wants to seek answers on immigration questions, they can join IV forums, if someone wants to track they can use IV tracker, If someone wants to blog, we have blogs etc etc

We really need critical mass of people this important year for us. Please try to help in any way possible to spread the word about IV at this time.

If you would like this to become an action item, some members can take the lead and help send chain emails, posters or any other innovative means to spread the word about IV. I think that is the need of the hour in order to launch a big campaign this year.

IV is you and me and we need to shoulder the responsibility to make something happen this year.

[pappu]

Originally Posted by gcisadawg

FY EB1 EB2 EB3
2003 1,266 8,536 10,647
2004 2,998 16,262 19,889
2005 6,336 16,687 23,250
2006 3,156 3,720 3,006
2007 2,855 6,203 17,795
2008 5,327 14,819 3,576
21,938 66,227 78,163


Going forward, EB3 would be in 3000 to 4000 range unless we come together as a force and act.

If it helps we can bring some good statistics experts on board to analyze the data we will have on our tracker and from USCIS. This will give us better estimates on movement of dates and how everything is currently being processed. let us know what you think or if you have any other ideas.

To do this it is important that we all input our data in IV tracker. Soon some more features will be added to the tracker and we will make it really robust easy to analyze. Could everyone help spread the word about the tracker so that everyone can come to IV and input their dates.

[gcisadawg]

Originally Posted by albertpinto

I agree with most of the posts here ..there have been lot of ideas but everyone needs to be more serious ...IV core has to come up with a new campaign. ultimately the question is do we wait for something to happen or do we try for make things happen ..
"my idea was to come up with a letter campaign Thanking USCIS for the massive delays and wastage of visas which has prevented many hard working immigrants from buying a house at peak values"
it does not matter if you are a homeowner or not ..just participate (USCIS is not going to double check) ..there will be awareness that USCIS is broken just like Brown's FEMA (the person who was in charge during katrina fiasco)...and maybe USCIS will come out with facts. ofcourse some backlash is to be expected since we waited for too long and now we are in recession !! (also Obama is not going to do anything on his own so soon as he has major major problems to solve first)
ofcourse Core has to endorse such a campaign ..if someone has better idea ..please share ..don't be an idiot and offer only criticism to other people's idea unless u have something better !!
at the very least ..let us think and maybe everyone should come up with ideas ..and in the end let us have a poll and choose one campaign idea and go with it ..needless to say at the same time ..every member should try to spread word about the campaign and get atleast 5 new IV members (just like Amway networking)

albertpinto,

I agree with your idea. But time might not be ripe. I'm not sure how we can get attention for legal immigration when the economy is so bad. This is like a downtime. We can use this time to strengthen IV as an organization. We need to prepare for war (activism) when there is peace (downtime). I agree with Pappu, we need to spread the word of IV as much as possible. I've to go beyond my friend's circle as most of them have a GC in hand!

Regards,
GCisaDawg

[indyanguy]

So, what are the options for EB3-I? It appears that porting to EB2 will be more difficult moving forward due to difficulties in getting PERM approved especially for IT professions.

If the recapture of unused visas does happen, what is the estimate on how much EB3I would move?