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Well you can call me whatever teli!

Fact is if IV wants to change how USCIS works then court is better way than sending flowers/pizza. People in US understand language only when its sent by court. You can send as many pizzas as you want, its not going to help. July 2007 was a classic case. It was due to power of AILA, IV, etc that helped in court system to prove wrongdoing of USCIS. It will be silly to think that somehow sending flowers helped the case.

Believing in IV has nothing to do with it. I am supporter of IV as it helps my cause.
I agree with you 100%. The only language that US people understand is court. Everything wrongdoing they do within the law is considered "moral". The abrupt , unjustified and random acts of USCIS are nothing but like bullying us day and night and extorting our money in the form of H1 extensions , eads and advance paroles and still threatening us in many ways. I do not think pizzas or flowers does anything at all.
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They eat and talk about removing H1Bs and GCs.


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I got this idea as I posted in my other. This is NOT to distract the flower campaign we wanted to do. Please participate in that with your heart.

How about we order a pizza for anyone from whom we can get soem attention:

1. Decision makers, incl President.
2. CNN type.
3. NY times.

To media we can say thanks in advance to uderstand us and pass our campaign message. THINK.. THINK.
Any better ideas are appreciated. If you have think something better than Pizza, let me know. Pizza is just $10-$15.
And they will definitely divert it to some place that needs help in form of food and it will feed the hungry also. Thats good too.
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This idea is better than sending food to journalists.

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I would say that rather than sending pizza to CNN/politician, we can organize free food drive in all major cities same day. Just to show that we are contributing to the society and then also gain the news coverage.
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with all due respect, this is a stupid idea with little thought gone in to it or its implications

the flower campaign was DIFFERENT as the flowers were symbolistic in nature, pizza's on the other hand mean nothing.
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Lightbulb How about some chicken Biryani

Actually the idea is really good, of presenting ourselves saying see you guys do bad for all us, but our culture taught us to meet the enemies also with love. On the other hand it will show how prosper we are and how much more can we make this country.

But rather sending the Pizzas to the politicians and reporter who will eat and flush it down the toilet, wiping there faces with the toilet paper and start blabbering B*** Sh** about us, instead lets make a campaign to send the pizzas to the homeless shelter in a very large quantity and let the reporters come there to cover, with this we will get a good media coverage to put up our issues in front of the government and show them we can make a change and difference. Anywhere in world I think its a matter of shame or disgrace to get fed by someone you abuse. But there has to be someone really a good PR person to persent all the issues to the media and at the same time well apted to politically punch on the face of the anti H1B lobby.

I would request IV founders to step up for this.. There????
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Lightbulb How about some chicken Biryani

Actually the idea is really good, of presenting ourselves saying see you guys do bad for all us, but our culture taught us to meet the enemies also with love. On the other hand it will show how prosper we are and how much more can we make this country.

But rather sending the Pizzas to the politicians and reporter who will eat and flush it down the toilet, wiping there faces with the toilet paper and start blabbering B*** Sh** about us, instead lets make a campaign to send the pizzas to the homeless shelter in a very large quantity and let the reporters come there to cover, with this we will get a good media coverage to put up our issues in front of the government and show them we can make a change and difference. Anywhere in world I think its a matter of shame or disgrace to get fed by someone you abuse. But there has to be someone really a good PR person to persent all the issues to the media and at the same time well apted to politically punch on the face of the anti H1B lobby.

I would request IV founders to step up for this.. There????
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I am very sure this will hit headlines. Great idea..keep it up..good job..I am in.. I can send 5 pizzas and we can do this over and over for sometime.. We can do it. Much better than looking at the sky.
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I do not like Pizza idea...We can send something which implies that we pay TAX.....
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Pl dont send pizzas or food to lawmakers - The food may find its way to the dumpsters due to security reasons. Not a good idea to waste food. If you plan on feeding the homeless or people in need of food, then it is ok..
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I am very sure this will hit headlines. Great idea..keep it up..good job..I am in.. I can send 5 pizzas and we can do this over and over for sometime.. We can do it. Much better than looking at the sky.
yes, the headline will be "1000 pizza's horrifically wasted in times of recession when people are going hungry by H-1B holders pushing for greencard"

nice, then Grassley will come up with a bill banning all h1b immigrants from eating out in any american food joint
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Thumbs up Great idea

This is a fantastic idea!! A coordinated effort on 1 day to deliver pizzas to homeless shelters across the nation. Inform media that we are doing this on a certain date. Please spread this idea in your local IV chapters guys. Each chapter can be responsible for their area.

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Actually the idea is really good, of presenting ourselves saying see you guys do bad for all us, but our culture taught us to meet the enemies also with love. On the other hand it will show how prosper we are and how much more can we make this country.

I would request IV founders to step up for this.. There????
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Pls pay attention to Obama and Bobby in the next 30 min to understand what they wanna say, and pick some points where we can contribiute.
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Frankly, this idea of sending pizza is the stupidest of all the things I have heard in long time. Please don't feel bad because that is not the intension.

gcnotfiledyet,

I was here to witness july-07 visa bulletin, what do you know. You registered this month, and you are telling me that toothless aila stood-up for us because you googled some document which was drafted after the fact? ha, big joke, but its not funny. Either I have to be totally foolish or totally ignorant about what I witnessed myself, before I can trust whatever you have to say. Tell me that you do not have some hidden motive?

What I saw on various forums was, aila had already threatened a lawsuit, so they were not being invited and consulted by the administration. aila was immature in declaring lawsuit, which they did not file and which they did not have a legal ground to win. So don't throw a pdf at me now, making me believe what aila did for me, because the fact is it didn't. aila represents 1 and only 1 interest, and that is the interest of immigration lawyers. It doesn't represent the interest of immigrants, but IMMIGRATION LAWYERS. There is a difference, unless you are some immigration lawyer disguising as EB immigrant. aila don't care if we wait for years and they don't care how worried we are, because aila is in the business of representing the interest of its members i.e. immigration lawyers. When we are living through sleepless nights, immigration lawyers get a full good night sleep every night, trust me on this one. I don't know anyone who could tell me that his/her immigration attorney also is living sleepless nights because of the long pending application of his clients. So don't throw some obscure pdf at me to win my trust for aila because I know better than that. Lawyers make more money when the clients are scared and worried. So don't ever doubt my common sense when telling me that the guy who partner with the employer to delay my green card application is working on my behalf. That's that.


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Well you can call me whatever teli!

Fact is if IV wants to change how USCIS works then court is better way than sending flowers/pizza. People in US understand language only when its sent by court. You can send as many pizzas as you want, its not going to help. July 2007 was a classic case. It was due to power of AILA, IV, etc that helped in court system to prove wrongdoing of USCIS. It will be silly to think that somehow sending flowers helped the case.

Believing in IV has nothing to do with it. I am supporter of IV as it helps my cause.
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Frankly, this idea of sending pizza is the stupidest of all the things I have heard in long time. Please don't feel bad because that is not the intension.

gcnotfiledyet,

I was here to witness july-07 visa bulletin, what do you know. You registered this month, and you are telling me that toothless aila stood-up for us because you googled some document which was drafted after the fact? ha, big joke, but its not funny. Either I have to be totally foolish or totally ignorant about what I witnessed myself, before I can trust whatever you have to say. Tell me that you do not have some hidden motive?

What I saw on various forums was, aila had already threatened a lawsuit, so they were not being invited and consulted by the administration. aila was immature in declaring lawsuit, which they did not file and which they did not have a legal ground to win. So don't throw a pdf at me now, making me believe what aila did for me, because the fact is it didn't. aila represents 1 and only 1 interest, and that is the interest of immigration lawyers. It doesn't represent the interest of immigrants, but IMMIGRATION LAWYERS. There is a difference, unless you are some immigration lawyer disguising as EB immigrant. aila don't care if we wait for years and they don't care how worried we are, because aila is in the business of representing the interest of its members i.e. immigration lawyers. When we are living through sleepless nights, immigration lawyers get a full good night sleep every night, trust me on this one. I don't know anyone who could tell me that his/her immigration attorney also is living sleepless nights because of the long pending application of his clients. So don't throw some obscure pdf at me to win my trust for aila because I know better than that. Lawyers make more money when the clients are scared and worried. So don't ever doubt my common sense when telling me that the guy who partner with the employer to delay my green card application is working on my behalf. That's that.

Sending pizzas is a good idea. We can definitely tell them what to do with 500 or 1000 pizzas. They will not garbage it. They will contact some local agency for homelss.

I do NOT agree if AILA by itself did anything in our best interests in Jul 07. We have recently seen their statements where they make no mention on EB categories or suffereing. Dont we know why they dont support us.
In 07 it was joint effort of many agencies and immigration groups and attorneys that threatened lawsuits and USCIS knew it will loose.
Flower campaign did help too, but I cant give too much credit as some folks here do ALL the time. Simple reason. Our suffering or waiting didnt stop after that, but where is IV's campaign type role.
Jul 07 issue was a mistake as it appears from USCIS and to correct that, they allowed most of us to file 485s. We got a benefit. What if they did not make that mistake. Can you imagine. We would be at the same state as in Jun 07. Even now, just being in 485 pendning is a pain by itself, forget about tthose who couldnt even do that. So where are the efforts??. Economy is down now, but what about in later 2007 and 2008.
I need to see more action from IV core to really recognise anyting. For now it appears they will make noise only when their dates are unavailable. And at that time, they will use all the rest of the community.
Who can differ with me strongly here, who is also supporting IV efforts strongly??.
Sorry,. but thats what is appears like. I would like to support the values and objectives IV core team claims, but I need to see them in action.

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Organizing a food drive is a good idea especially in this recession when there is a lot of hunger and poverty in the inner cities. We should also be able to get support from existing food banks in this endeavor, for example, Philabundance of Philadelphia. This will also generate a lot of goodwill towards legal immigrants and hopefully, make news at the same time. Sending pizza is pointless, has no symbolism whatsoever and will not generate any goodwill.

I would be willing to volunteer for any food drive organized in the Philadelphia area.
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