Is IV discussing EB/Housing crisis issues with lawmakers

[ssingh92]

Originally Posted by EndlessWait

For those who think assisting US economy by buy houses (for pending GC applicants) is like selling a GC are just plain dumb! No wonder why we dont have a resolution to the 10 yr waiting that's been killing EB immigrants, is because ppl like you, who love to take pain want others to live through this for the lifetime.....................
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Change the language and target too. I am thinking to draft a letter to send Home Builder Assoc and Car companies that I am not able to buy Home and Car because I am not getting loan. I need a car and home as I am paying rent every month around 1500. I am willing to pay 25% down and have credit score more than 700. No any kind of violation. Paied off first car loan. I am experienced enough to find another job in such bad economy. The only thing that I dont have is GC for which I am waiting for last 8 years. If I get GC probably I will get good loan faster and cheaper. If you lobby for us for GC probably not only me many other immigrant will get loans.

Never ever mention that it will improve economy.

Waiting for comments.

[EndlessWait]

Originally Posted by ssingh92

Change the language and target too. I am thinking to draft a letter to send Home Builder Assoc and Car companies that I am not able to buy Home and Car because I am not getting loan. I need a car and home as I am paying rent every month around 1500. I am willing to pay 25% down and have credit score more than 700. No any kind of violation. Paied off first car loan. I am experienced enough to find another job in such bad economy. The only thing that I dont have is GC for which I am waiting for last 8 years. If I get GC probably I will get good loan faster and cheaper. If you lobby for us for GC probably not only me many other immigrant will get loans.

Never ever mention that it will improve economy.

Waiting for comments.

I am surprised...why IV is not raising this.. The fundamental issues of EB immigration wont' be solved until CIR happens and that could take forever. No one cares about immigration right now.. The only thing that can provide immediate relief for EB immigrants is if we express our desire to buy houses(unable to do so becoz of lack of GC).

Wakup IV!..where art thou'

[ganguteli]

Originally Posted by gcnotfiledyet

You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.

Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.

gcnotfiledyet is a LAWYER in disguise.

[pappu]

Originally Posted by EndlessWait

I am surprised...why IV is not raising this.. The fundamental issues of EB immigration wont' be solved until CIR happens and that could take forever. No one cares about immigration right now.. The only thing that can provide immediate relief for EB immigrants is if we express our desire to buy houses(unable to do so becoz of lack of GC).

Wakup IV!..where art thou'

We already ran a campaign http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=21665 (US Housing Crisis and Employment based Green Card issues)
How many of you took part in it?

There was a funding drive recently and also in the last quarter of 2008. Total contributions in the last 6 months have been too little to engage in a full fledged lobbying effort on any issue. Despite that we pushed through.

Before we start blaming IV core, let us see if we are all ready to take part in IV action items. If people do not take part in any action item and support IV en masse then success will be hard to come by.

[pappu]

Originally Posted by EndlessWait

has anyone noticed lately, ever since the July 07 fiasco... there hasn't been anything on radar from IV..what's happening..not trying to belittle efforts from IV..but guys most of us are waiting to hear from you..

Incorrect. Please go back and see old threads for action items. Just because you do not see any action item right now, you cannot flush down all our hard work in the last 2 years. You are enjoying your 2 year EAD because of the hard work of our Admin fix campaign in 2008. Please stop blaming the organization. If you wish to lead it, come forward and take charge of your state chapter as a start, lead and deliver results. IV is everyone and each member's responsibility.

[EndlessWait]

Originally Posted by pappu

Incorrect. Please go back and see old threads for action items. Just because you do not see any action item right now, you cannot flush down all our hard work in the last 2 years. You are enjoying your 2 year EAD because of the hard work of our Admin fix campaign in 2008. Please stop blaming the organization. If you wish to lead it, come forward and take charge of your state chapter as a start, lead and deliver results. IV is everyone and each member's responsibility.

kudos to what u accomplished in July 2007, but the reality is we haven't seen any major action after that. I guess its mostly frustration from ppl here, who think that the US housing/EB crisis can be pursued aggressively than expecting for CIR to happen.

thanks

[qasleuth]

Originally Posted by EndlessWait

kudos to what u accomplished in July 2007, but the reality is we haven't seen any major action after that. I guess its mostly frustration from ppl here, who think that the US housing/EB crisis can be pursued aggressively than expecting for CIR to happen.

thanks

Your suggestion to pursue this option gels really well with the below proposal

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ferrerid=15623 (PROPOSAL: 485 Adjudication during retrogression)

To quote realizeit:

"I believe the above proposal is a small step in the eyes of the protectionists where as it is a big leap for all retrogressed country applicants. We may be able to achieve this using administrative fix or an action from the Executing branch, as this won’t change the annual GC quota of 140000. Apart from this, this will encourage all those skilled immigrants to invest in American economy within 1-2 years of filing AOS application. At present most of us are sending our money to our home countries as our situation is so uncertain. This effort will definitely help the ailing economy and will serve as a boost to the housing market."

[sanju]

Originally Posted by EndlessWait

kudos to what u accomplished in July 2007, but the reality is we haven't seen any major action after that. I guess its mostly frustration from ppl here, who think that the US housing/EB crisis can be pursued aggressively than expecting for CIR to happen.

thanks

I was once a non-believer but now I am a believer, not because of what core has done, but what this community of educated illiterates have not done. Every time someone has increased level of anxiety, that person comes to this forum, vent out on someone else, ask someone else that what have you been doing because I have not received my green card, and then after bickering in few posts, simply vanish in think air like a fart. The name of the game is, let someone else clean up the shit for me while I enjoy my pop-corn watching a movie with my family. But lets not stop blaming someone else for my own inaction for my green card. Demand answers right now because I had a sudden gust of enthusiasm to find out when I well get my green card. That's the way to go .... and the story goes on ....

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[gcnotfiledyet]

[quote]

Originally Posted by h1techSlave

wasn't the flower campaign an 'effort by IV'?

Any way, I think you don't need IV's (for that matter any organization's support) to file a law suit. If you think USCIS is breaking the law, you can file a law suit with the help of a lawyer. A couple of $100 is all that would cost you.

It is silly to think filing lawsuit will cost $100. If I could do it myself I would have done it already. Filing potential successful lawsuit requires successful attorney to prove out a point. They are familiar with laws and their interpretation. They are good at explaining those interpretations. They do it day in and out. My job is not to file is lawsuit. I leave that to pros.

Somebody will be foolish to think I don't IV. I need IV now more than ever. IV has establisehd a base and some sense of direction of where to go. Why would I want to start myself and re invent this wheel? IV has base with support of members, access to lawyers, voice in the world where I am just a pawn etc.

[gcnotfiledyet]

Originally Posted by ssingh92

Change the language and target too. I am thinking to draft a letter to send Home Builder Assoc and Car companies that I am not able to buy Home and Car because I am not getting loan. I need a car and home as I am paying rent every month around 1500. I am willing to pay 25% down and have credit score more than 700. No any kind of violation. Paied off first car loan. I am experienced enough to find another job in such bad economy. The only thing that I dont have is GC for which I am waiting for last 8 years. If I get GC probably I will get good loan faster and cheaper. If you lobby for us for GC probably not only me many other immigrant will get loans.

Never ever mention that it will improve economy.

Waiting for comments.

I like this idea of getting assistance from lobbyists in HBA and other assoc. They already have established their presence in Washington. If we can sell them this plan, I think something can be done. We need a horse to ride to DC.

[ganguteli]

Originally Posted by gcnotfiledyet

Pappu,

We believe in this organization's hard work. Our presence here proves it. But I also think blaming members might not achieve anything except hostility.

If we do not get enough funds then we need to advertise IV. We need to have better web pages to have a look of a professional organization as compared to having a look of trackitt, lawyers website etc. For this we need ideas. We need better communication from IV administrators on their webpages. Right now if someone new comes to this website, it is does not look more than getting their immigration related questions answered. Plus their should be easy tabs to print IV advertisement for community boards, sending emails to friends to participate, or any other ideas. Also we need some form of direction of what to do and how to do it. Right now I don't even see easy tabs for access information from congressman, senators etc. Just throwing out some ideas. I am sure some other people have better ideas than I do.

Why dont you start by updating your profile, contributing money and volunteering your time to IV. You joined a couple days ago and have started lecturing IV admin as if you are an expert.

You came to the site and started dismissing IV flower campaign and praised AILA.
Why don't you volunteer for the site and its content and send an email to IV for it? And dont tell me you do not have time. If you do not have the time, then contribute money to IV because that is what I did too.

[gcnotfiledyet]

Originally Posted by ganguteli

Why dont you start by updating your profile, contributing money and volunteering your time to IV. You joined a couple days ago and have started lecturing IV admin as if you are an expert.

You came to the site and started dismissing IV flower campaign and praised AILA.
Why don't you volunteer for the site and its content and send an email to IV for it? And dont tell me you do not have time. If you do not have the time, then contribute money to IV because that is what I did too.

And your point in this post to helping IV is? IV admins are more mature than to read my ideas as a lecture.

[sanju]

Originally Posted by gcnotfiledyet

And your point in this post to helping IV is? IV admins are more mature than to read my ideas as a lecture.

Ya, expect others to show maturity while you continue to be a child.


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[gcnotfiledyet]

Originally Posted by sanju

Ya, expect others to show maturity while you continue to be a child.


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Is criticising me instead of my ideas going to help? I wonder who the child is.

[wizpal]

I don't know how to open a thread to run a poll to track the number of people ready to send flowers to white house/president to highlight our case to buy houses if there is a a provision to approve GCs on a fast-track basis. With a substantial fast track fee (>4000 dollars) and 20% down payment toward house payment, we have a strong case. If we get hundreds of people ready to send to flowers, may be IV can make it an action item.