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Old 05-18-2009, 12:08 PM
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In the same lines as H1B, could we look into if its possible to add a quota for US Masters degree holders irrespective of country of birth for green Card also. This would be in addition to the existing Employment based quotas.
Does anyone know how they added 20k H1B quota for Masters degree holders? Who sponsored that bill? May be we should talk to the same people.

I would think there would be a little less resistance for this? This would ease the pressure on both EB2 and EB3.

I dont know if this has been previously looked at. I know there were talks of excluding these people from quota all together.
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I thought there was a bill along these lines last year, do not remember the name or number of the bill though. I would very much welcome such a bill though.
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we should also include professional qualifications aquired in the US and not just MS or PhDs.
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It is good. But .... There were many bills like this in past few years. But it is tough to get even considered unless if you come out a small number like 50k or less. Basically every year immigrant groups were asking unlimited number of GC for US Master degree holders. If they give unlimited gcs for US master degree holders then that number only will add 500K per year as Indian students only have numbers around 80k every year. So with some cap and exemption just for Phd holders will have a better chance of passing in congress.

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Quotas are exactly the reason I cannot go back to India ever...I absolutely hate them....There is already classification under EB category....BTW I have a MS in EE from Auburn University....Best bet for us is lost visa recapture.....
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Quotas are exactly the reason I cannot go back to India ever...I absolutely hate them....There is already classification under EB category....BTW I have a MS in EE from Auburn University....Best bet for us is lost visa recapture.....
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Me too!
There are good and not so good schools here for MS /PhD. Either way why a seperate quota for US MS/PhD. Is a foreign MS/PHD any inferior?
Just a thought..
Especially IIT/IISc are not too bad schools in india!
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There are good and not so good schools here for MS /PhD. Either way why a seperate quota for US MS/PhD. Is a foreign MS/PHD any inferior?
Just a thought..
Especially IIT/IISc are not too bad schools in india!
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A US Masters is not enough to make any distinction. There will be a flurry of students to lesser colleges just to be counted as US advanced degree holder. Watch out for spurious universities cropping up here as well. It will become extremely difficult for students to get visa. Right now students have to claim that they will come back (even though there is a separate quota for them in H1!!!!!). It will become impossible to get a visa. People complain of H1 visa fraud, F1 will become a hot bed of frauds.
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1) I totally support this idea

2) my crystal ball tells me that there are gonna be people here who will post discouraging comments against this idea like they do to every other idea worth considering. These days they use the "these ideas divide the community" routine to kill initiatives like this.

3) quota exculsion and segregation would be awesome and very well deserved



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In the same lines as H1B, could we look into if its possible to add a quota for US Masters degree holders irrespective of country of birth for green Card also. This would be in addition to the existing Employment based quotas.
Does anyone know how they added 20k H1B quota for Masters degree holders? Who sponsored that bill? May be we should talk to the same people.

I would think there would be a little less resistance for this? This would ease the pressure on both EB2 and EB3.

I dont know if this has been previously looked at. I know there were talks of excluding these people from quota all together.
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for those with masters or phd there is already a special quota called EB1. All of the others are not different from one another. if with your MS/PhD you are going to do the same kind of job any qualified person from India would do, what is the need for a special catagory. You have to prove your point then everybody will agree. Just by saying "special quota for MS" we will ask; WHY? show us the reason. I know lot of engineering graduates/MBAs/research scientists who have got MS from here but dont see any special significant contribution. I also know lot of professionals (specialists in medical / other fields) who were trained in the US and are significantly valued all over the world. So to put it briefly, this argument will not work with the law makers. People with PhD and lot of publications / patents / significant contributions etc definitely need a special quota and they already have one. The rest of us are in the same boat friends.
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i think iits and iims are even better recognized... lets do a special quota for us fortunates too... ha ha ha...
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There are good and not so good schools here for MS /PhD. Either way why a seperate quota for US MS/PhD. Is a foreign MS/PHD any inferior?
Just a thought..
Especially IIT/IISc are not too bad schools in india!
nobody is comparing the schools over here with IIT/IISC.
There is a quota for masters in H1B.
There should be a similar quota in GC for masters.
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nobody is comparing the schools over here with IIT/IISC.
There is a quota for masters in H1B.
There should be a similar quota in GC for masters.
what logic? did you vote for a senator that supports such a bill or are you planning to present it in the senate/house?

and to your point, even i am not comparing any schools... i am just saying that there should be a quota for iim/iit grads...
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getting a seperate quota for Masters from US has some teeth. The Congress passed a legislation for additional 20K visas for people with US masters. To match things up with the EB visas, there is need for additional numbers. We can thus argue for an there needs to be additional numbers for EB masters quota.

I think this might resonate with the congress. Unless everyone is just waiting for something big.
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