Deloitte and GC

[DemiGod]

Hey guys, I have a question, and I was hoping you fine folks can help me out.

I just got an offer from Deloitte. They are transfering my H1B from my current employer. My current employer wasn't going to do my permanent residency processing.

Based on a quick Google search, it seems that Deloitte does not do any permanent residency processing, and people are staying away from it. I have about 4 years remaining in my H1-B. My recruiter told me that Deloitte does sponsor employees on a permanent basis and it depends on my performance.

I was hoping someone can give me some ideas of whether there is any truth to what the Google search says, i.e Deloitte doesnt do GC. The opportunity is good, but GC is an important factor for me too.

Thanks!

[subhradip]

They do.But, generally in EB3.

[kishore.salla]

Filing GC in EB3 is like going into Black hole..Only good for H1 extensions beyond 6 Yrs.

[vinzak]

From what I know from friends about Deloitte, they have a priority list for sponsoring for GC. ie. if Managers are waiting, then sr. consultants won't be sponsored. If Sr. Consultants are waiting, then consultants won't be sponsored etc.

Also, they won't sponsor unless ur on yr 2nd 3 yr H1b.

Also, they will file strictly as per job requirements, so getting EB2 is impossible. Almost all my friends in Deloitte ended up either going to India or Canada due to H1b expiry or changing companies.

I think it's very tough to get sponsored there. Better to stay away.

[srhari]

I have my close friend working in Deloitte and they did filed GC for him, but in EB3. It's almost impossible to get it file in EB2. And for most cases, they file it only 1 year before your H1 expires. Though Deloitte is a good company, I would suggest you to stay away from the Green Card processing perspective.

[dipdowndust]

Originally Posted by srhari

I have my close friend working in Deloitte and they did filed GC for him, but in EB3. It's almost impossible to get it file in EB2. And for most cases, they file it only 1 year before your H1 expires. Though Deloitte is a good company, I would suggest you to stay away from the Green Card processing perspective.

Nowadays, this is a trend where nobody wants to file in EB2. Not sure why ! DirectTv also doesnt file in EB2 at all, strictly EB3.

For the poster, I would suggest that you should file under EB2 as EB3 has no chance OR Stay in India after 6 yrs. of H-1, you will be better off there.

[maximus777]

Depends on your role. If it is a Manager or above, then they will consider EB2. If not, it will be EB3.

[TO BE OR NO TO BE]

I agree that they don't file for GC in EB2 unless you are a senior manager with better than good rating (internal benchmark) and have been working for Deloitte for more than 4 years.

In your situation, I would suggest that if you are getting good package / opportunity then take it. File for EB3, once your 140 is approved, your priority date gets locked and then you can use (port) that for EB2 when you get an opportunity that supports EB2 filing (within or outside of Deloitte). That way you can get the priority date (which is most important in the entire GC process), get 140 approved so you can continue extending H-1B in 3 years increments, get good experience, enrich your resume and take it from there in 2-3 years.

One another opportunity is they have a major operation in India, having 15,000 people working for them. If you are eligible (on performance basis) you can transfer there or any part of the world for a year or so, come back on L-1A and they will file under EB-1. One of my colleague just got his green card under EB-1 in February. He is from India.

I would suggest, in current situation, you file for EB2 or EB3 you won't be able to get green card in near future anyway. So take what you are offered (assuming its a good offer).

I am working for Deloitte and I know many people filed for their green cards in various different category including EB-1 as I noted above.

Hope this is helpful.

[Gandhi_II]

Although Deloitte is a good company, their immigration counsel (Fragomen, Del Rey, Berrnsen and Loewy) really messed up my case. It was an EB-2 case. First, it took almost 24 months for them to file a PERM. Second, they got audited by the Department of Labor, holding up the Labor Certification for 2+ years. Third, they refused to acknowledge that they had messed up. I had to restart the process from scratch with a new employer. In comparison, with the new employer, the case was filed in 8 months. Labor got approved in 2 months. I-140 approved in 2 weeks. Deloitte's a good place to grow your career but possibly one of the worst places for an aspiring immigrant looking to obtain Permanent Residency through the employment-based process.

[madhu345]

Originally Posted by TO BE OR NO TO BE

I agree that they don't file for GC in EB2 unless you are a senior manager with better than good rating (internal benchmark) and have been working for Deloitte for more than 4 years.

In your situation, I would suggest that if you are getting good package / opportunity then take it. File for EB3, once your 140 is approved, your priority date gets locked and then you can use (port) that for EB2 when you get an opportunity that supports EB2 filing (within or outside of Deloitte). That way you can get the priority date (which is most important in the entire GC process), get 140 approved so you can continue extending H-1B in 3 years increments, get good experience, enrich your resume and take it from there in 2-3 years.

One another opportunity is they have a major operation in India, having 15,000 people working for them. If you are eligible (on performance basis) you can transfer there or any part of the world for a year or so, come back on L-1A and they will file under EB-1. One of my colleague just got his green card under EB-1 in February. He is from India.

I would suggest, in current situation, you file for EB2 or EB3 you won't be able to get green card in near future anyway. So take what you are offered (assuming its a good offer).

I am working for Deloitte and I know many people filed for their green cards in various different category including EB-1 as I noted above.

Hope this is helpful.

This is very true, I just went through the hiring process, they were very transparent what they will and will not. If you join as H1 they sponsor for GC, if you are in EAD and they will not sponsor under different category.

[DemiGod]

Thanks guys- I truly appreciate all the feedback! I have two offers- one from Deloitte and another with a big Fortune 100 company. While the Deloitte offer is more interesting and in line with what I want from my career, it seems that GC processing will be a hassle. As such I am thinking of going with the other company.

Thanks again!

[Gandhi_II]

More than happy to help. I got burnt trying to do the GC through Deloitte and so glad that my experience is able to help someone. Fragomen took 24 months just to file the PERM after Partner's approved sponsorship! If they had taken 8 months, I would have been a Permanent Resident 2 years ago. I think you're making a good choice.

If you don't mind me asking, who is the other employer? (feel free to private message me). I'm looking to switch employers and looking for employers that provide reliable sponsorship in the EB-2 category.

[smuggymba]

Originally Posted by Gandhi_II

Although Deloitte is a good company, their immigration counsel (Fragomen, Del Rey, Berrnsen and Loewy) really messed up my case. It was an EB-2 case. First, it took almost 24 months for them to file a PERM. Second, they got audited by the Department of Labor, holding up the Labor Certification for 2+ years. Third, they refused to acknowledge that they had messed up. I had to restart the process from scratch with a new employer. In comparison, with the new employer, the case was filed in 8 months. Labor got approved in 2 months. I-140 approved in 2 weeks. Deloitte's a good place to grow your career but possibly one of the worst places for an aspiring immigrant looking to obtain Permanent Residency through the employment-based process.

100% agree with last line. I still have friends there who are in EB3 with a 2009 PD and buying houses. They pay good and give great benefits but GC is PITA.

[vhd999]

I have sent you a PM. Can you please check.

Originally Posted by Gandhi_II

More than happy to help. I got burnt trying to do the GC through Deloitte and so glad that my experience is able to help someone. Fragomen took 24 months just to file the PERM after Partner's approved sponsorship! If they had taken 8 months, I would have been a Permanent Resident 2 years ago. I think you're making a good choice.

If you don't mind me asking, who is the other employer? (feel free to private message me). I'm looking to switch employers and looking for employers that provide reliable sponsorship in the EB-2 category.

[kash80]

I was with stuck with them during the worst years of the recession and they had stopped applying for any PERMS. When I was there, they would not do EB2 for anyone below manager level. It may be a good place to work if you like 100% travel. I am glad that I got out. And to echo others statement here, their law firm (fragomen) is one of the worst to work with.