How we know it's time to declare cir dead

[baba84]

HOW WE KNOW IT'S TIME TO DECLARE CIR DEAD -- GREG SISKIND

I've written a number of times that we need to think about pursuing piecemeal immigration reform and give up on the notion of a comprehensive solution. The reason for this is simple math - you need Republican votes in the Senate to make it happen and the Republican Party has moved so far in to the Tea Party camp that it can't even muster a single pro-immigration voice. Lindsey Graham was that sole voice for much of 2009, but he walked away from the table in the spring and his latest pronouncements on the topic indicate that much like his predecessor in the role, John McCain, he has decided to abandon his prior views and go all out in the other direction. McCain has become the "finish the dang fence" Senator. And Graham just told Fox News he plans to introduce legislation to amend the US Constitution by repealing the 14th Amendment guarantee to birthright citizenship. That particular position is usually a telltale sign that someone is an anti-immigration extremist.

So for those pro-immigration groups out there who still think they can get the votes on CIR, this latest development ought to be a wake up call that it's just not happening. Time to move on to Plan B.

[gk_2000]

Originally Posted by baba84

HOW WE KNOW IT'S TIME TO DECLARE CIR DEAD -- GREG SISKIND

I've written a number of times that we need to think about pursuing piecemeal immigration reform and give up on the notion of a comprehensive solution. The reason for this is simple math - you need Republican votes in the Senate to make it happen and the Republican Party has moved so far in to the Tea Party camp that it can't even muster a single pro-immigration voice. Lindsey Graham was that sole voice for much of 2009, but he walked away from the table in the spring and his latest pronouncements on the topic indicate that much like his predecessor in the role, John McCain, he has decided to abandon his prior views and go all out in the other direction. McCain has become the "finish the dang fence" Senator. And Graham just told Fox News he plans to introduce legislation to amend the US Constitution by repealing the 14th Amendment guarantee to birthright citizenship. That particular position is usually a telltale sign that someone is an anti-immigration extremist.

So for those pro-immigration groups out there who still think they can get the votes on CIR, this latest development ought to be a wake up call that it's just not happening. Time to move on to Plan B.

But that would be giving them too much credit for their intelligence, to think that they will realize
Actually it was all over with the death of Kennedy

[go_guy123]

Originally Posted by gk_2000

But that would be giving them too much credit for their intelligence, to think that they will realize
Actually it was all over with the death of Kennedy

It was dying for quite for quite. Had people realised that before, probably some piecemeal like SKIL bill would have passed by now.

However I feel it is not fully deal. So long democratic party is there in control, they will always hold SKIL bill (that has maximum likelyhood to pass) hostage to CIR while pass the
Dream act on the side: Something that is on the cards now.

GOP is key to SKIL bill etc.

[India_USA]

Mitch McConnell Wants Hearing On 14th Amendment 'Birthright Citizenship'
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In offering his support, McConnell becomes the highest-ranking Republican figure to call for examining the reach of the 14th amendment. On Sunday, his chief deputy, Sen. John Kyl (R-Ariz.) told CBS' Face the Nation that he too would back hearings into revising citizenship laws. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) -- a one-time proponent of comprehensive immigration reform -- has explicitly called for the 14th Amendment's repeal.
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Mitch McConnell Wants Hearing On 14th Amendment 'Birthright Citizenship'

[go_guy123]

Originally Posted by India_USA

Mitch McConnell Wants Hearing On 14th Amendment 'Birthright Citizenship'
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In offering his support, McConnell becomes the highest-ranking Republican figure to call for examining the reach of the 14th amendment. On Sunday, his chief deputy, Sen. John Kyl (R-Ariz.) told CBS' Face the Nation that he too would back hearings into revising citizenship laws. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) -- a one-time proponent of comprehensive immigration reform -- has explicitly called for the 14th Amendment's repeal.
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Mitch McConnell Wants Hearing On 14th Amendment 'Birthright Citizenship'

The mood across the nation is very anti-illegal immigrant...and everyone is trying to cash that for Nov