News Article Thread - 1

[willgetgc2005]

Good article. But like any other article, this interwines H1B with
our objectives. I dont think we are crying for increase in H1b.

Not sure what it will take to educate that H1B is different form getting Permanent residence in a decent period of time.

[admin]

This is an old article that we have already discussed earlier.

[waitnwatch]

Originally Posted by admin

This is an old article that we have already discussed earlier.

and here's the link to the discussion in the News Article thread.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...?t=280&page=28 (News Article Thread - 1)

[nyte_crawler]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...5_immig03.html

New issue imperils immigration talks

By Nicole Gaouette and James Gerstenzang

Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON — A procedural glitch is adding new, and possibly significant, hurdles to the drive in Congress to approve sweeping changes to immigration policy.

The problem stems from the Senate bill that would create a guest-worker program and a path to citizenship for many of the illegal immigrants in the United States.

Participants in the guest-worker program would pay income taxes; illegal immigrants would, as part of the legalization process, be required to pay back taxes and new fees.

The Constitution, however, gives the House sole authority to originate bills that include revenue measures and it allows any House member to object if a Senate bill does so.

Late last week, Senate aides said they received word from the House Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction over revenue issues, that it would use that constitutional power to block further consideration of the Senate bill.

The problem is stalling efforts to appoint a House-Senate conference committee that would try to reach a compromise on the final form of immigration legislation.

Those negotiations were expected to be difficult at best. But unless the procedural stumbling block is resolved, the talks won't even start.

Although the impasse may prove minor, it could provide a way for House members who staunchly oppose the Senate's legalization measures to block any compromise attempts. That could mean no overhaul of immigration policy emerges from Congress this year.

The House measure, approved in December, contains no provisions for a guest-worker program or for a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. It would make being in the country illegally a felony and would intensify border security.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has offered a solution: Add the immigration bill to a House tax bill already on the floor, an aide said. The House would vote on that bill and send it to conference, where immigration could be separated from the tax bill.

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But Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada won't agree to this maneuver.

The Frist plan faces another hurdle. It requires that the House vote for it to take effect, which would give the House members opposed to the Senate bill a chance to vote it down.

Material from Newsday is included in this report.

Copyright © 2006 The Seattle Times Company

[speedo]

06/03/2006: House Hardliners Come Up With A Weapon to Block CIR Conference Committee

Report indicates that the House hardliners who opposed the Senate-passed S. 2611 have come up with a weapon to block the House-Senate Conference Committee and the S.2611. The weapon they have hammered out involves a constitutional issue as to whether the provision in S. 2611 that requires legalization alien to "pay the back taxes" as condition for green card application constitutes a federal government's measure to raise the revenue. These hardliners argue that the U.S. Constitution mandates that any legislation to raise revenue for the government must originate in the House and S. 2611 violated the U.S. Constitution by originating such legislative bill in the Senate. When the Congress returns on Monday, there will be a see-saw fight between the S. 2611 proponents and opponents on this legal technicality issue. One wonders how the House hardliners would defend their prior violations in the past in another legislations that involved such legal technicality issues. Besides, there is no clear definition as to whether such back-tax payment requirement indeed constitutes a revenue raising measure. Please stay tuned to this website to watch how this fight in the political arena will unfold!

[apnair2002]

http://www.news8austin.com/content/t...sp?ArID=163413


SAN ANTONIO – U.S. Sen. John Cornyn told Texas Republicans Saturday that an illegal immigrant amnesty program failed 20 years ago and a new one would be a mistake today. He spoke at to Republican state convention delegates in San Antonio.

Both Cornyn and Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said they oppose a Senate bill approved with bipartisan support last week. The bill provides a chance at citizenship for guest workers and an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.

Securing the Mexico border and cracking down on illegal immigration were the dominant themes of party leaders and many elected officials at the two-day GOP convention. The party's platform states “No amnesty! No how. No way.''

Newly elected party vice chairman Dr. Robin Armstrong said the party encourages legal immigration.

[go_gc_way]

"Newly elected party vice chairman Dr. Robin Armstrong said the party encourages legal immigration."

Unable to understand how is it encouraging , if the Senate bill recently passed has several measures for legal immigration is totally opposed and discarded before it becomes law!

Or is it that , amendments that relate to legal immigration will be passed to become law?

I strongly wish , as far as our measures are concerned , this bill is not a repeat of budget reconcilliation bill

[dixie]

Originally Posted by go_gc_way

"Newly elected party vice chairman Dr. Robin Armstrong said the party encourages legal immigration."

Unable to understand how is it encouraging , if the Senate bill recently passed has several measures for legal immigration is totally opposed and discarded before it becomes law!

Or is it that , amendments that relate to legal immigration will be passed to become law?

I strongly wish , as far as our measures are concerned , this bill is not a repeat of budget reconcilliation bill

For all their lip service about encouraging legal immigration, these senators/congressmen opposed to the CIR will DEFINITELY NOT pass a bill exclusively for legal immigrants. Even if by some miracle they do ,president bush wont sign the bill without some sort of legalization provisions for the illegal aliens. Its all or nothing. Whether we like it or not, we have to sink or swim with the illegal aliens, at least as far as CIR is concerned.

[apnair2002]

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pb...NION/606040306


When George W. Bush sides with Ted Kennedy on an issue and gets accolades from Jimmy Carter, you know we're in trouble!

The Hagel-Martinez amnesty bill (S.2611) that was passed May 25 by the U.S. Senate has been called "abominable," "incomprehensible," "a disaster" and "a betrayal," among other things.

It is probably one of the worst pieces of legislation ever foisted on the citizens of the United States.

Thank goodness, Mississippi's two senators, Thad Cochran and Trent Lott, had their heads on straight and voted against it.

The bill grants amnesty to over 15 million illegal immigrants, putting them on the "path" to U.S. citizenship.

AMNESTY BILL MISGUIDED

If this weren't bad enough, the Senate bill would admit 66 million new foreigners over the next 20 years, and loads them onto our entitlement benefit programs, including Social Security - a program already heading for insolvency for the next generation of Americans.

The amnesty bill would also allow illegals to have the privilege of bringing in extended family members, which could double or triple the projected 66 million new immigrants.

Every poll shows that an overwhelming majority of Americans want our borders secured. Yet, employers who hire illegals are let off scot free, exempting employers from any civil or criminal liability prosecution or penalty.

The Basic Pilot Verification Program, which requires employers to check the legality of workers, was scrapped.

Worst of all, while a token 370 miles of border fencing won approval (half of the fencing proposed by the House), the Senate bill contains no meaningful enforcement to stem the flood of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border - an open invitation to terrorists.

Consider the unfairness to American agricultural laborers, who can be fired for any reason, while "temporary guest workers" cannot be fired by their employers except for what the bill calls "just cause." Additionally, guest workers must be paid the prevailing wage while American workers have no such guarantee.

Many parents make huge sacrifices to give their kids a college education. But the Senate bill provides for in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. With public education costs skyrocketing, just imagine what it will do to our education system when we have to add untold numbers of immigrants, both legal and illegal, who don't even speak English.

TAXPAYERS BEAR BURDEN

Taxpayers are already bearing the burden of medical care for those who cross our borders illegally and for incarceration of illegal criminals who currently make up one-third of the prisoner population in the federal prison system.

And the outrage of having Mexico's president, Vicente Fox, dictate to us what we should and should not do with those who have broken our laws, should make American citizens' blood boil. Even the immigrant-rights groups are rewarded under the bill with taxpayer dollars being provided them to help illegals "adjust."

What ever happened to national sovereignty? This is a nation that once was governed by the rule of law.

The 62 senators who voted for amnesty for those who have broken our laws should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington on a rail.

My prayer is that as the Senate bill goes to conference with the House Border Security First Bill (H.R. 4437), that House members will hold firm to their resolve and say no to any report that includes guest-worker/amnesty or increases legal immigration

[jkays94]

Physician Shortage Looms, Risking a Crisis, as Demand for Care Explodes

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...home-headlines

[...] The shortages are putting pressure on medical schools to boost enrollment, and on lawmakers to lift a cap on funding for physician training and to ease limits on immigration of foreign physicians, who already constitute 25% of the white-coated workforce. [...]

[dixie]

This report acts as if immigrants dont pay taxes at all .. so the "burden" of "funding" immigrants falls on the shoulders of the native born (supposedly the only tax paying residents). Sounds eerily like numbersUSA. Anyways, its hardly a surprise, coming from an untra-conservative state like MS.

Originally Posted by apnair2002

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pb...NION/606040306


When George W. Bush sides with Ted Kennedy on an issue and gets accolades from Jimmy Carter, you know we're in trouble!

The Hagel-Martinez amnesty bill (S.2611) that was passed May 25 by the U.S. Senate has been called "abominable," "incomprehensible," "a disaster" and "a betrayal," among other things.

It is probably one of the worst pieces of legislation ever foisted on the citizens of the United States.

Thank goodness, Mississippi's two senators, Thad Cochran and Trent Lott, had their heads on straight and voted against it.

The bill grants amnesty to over 15 million illegal immigrants, putting them on the "path" to U.S. citizenship.

AMNESTY BILL MISGUIDED

If this weren't bad enough, the Senate bill would admit 66 million new foreigners over the next 20 years, and loads them onto our entitlement benefit programs, including Social Security - a program already heading for insolvency for the next generation of Americans.

The amnesty bill would also allow illegals to have the privilege of bringing in extended family members, which could double or triple the projected 66 million new immigrants.

Every poll shows that an overwhelming majority of Americans want our borders secured. Yet, employers who hire illegals are let off scot free, exempting employers from any civil or criminal liability prosecution or penalty.

The Basic Pilot Verification Program, which requires employers to check the legality of workers, was scrapped.

Worst of all, while a token 370 miles of border fencing won approval (half of the fencing proposed by the House), the Senate bill contains no meaningful enforcement to stem the flood of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border - an open invitation to terrorists.

Consider the unfairness to American agricultural laborers, who can be fired for any reason, while "temporary guest workers" cannot be fired by their employers except for what the bill calls "just cause." Additionally, guest workers must be paid the prevailing wage while American workers have no such guarantee.

Many parents make huge sacrifices to give their kids a college education. But the Senate bill provides for in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. With public education costs skyrocketing, just imagine what it will do to our education system when we have to add untold numbers of immigrants, both legal and illegal, who don't even speak English.

TAXPAYERS BEAR BURDEN

Taxpayers are already bearing the burden of medical care for those who cross our borders illegally and for incarceration of illegal criminals who currently make up one-third of the prisoner population in the federal prison system.

And the outrage of having Mexico's president, Vicente Fox, dictate to us what we should and should not do with those who have broken our laws, should make American citizens' blood boil. Even the immigrant-rights groups are rewarded under the bill with taxpayer dollars being provided them to help illegals "adjust."

What ever happened to national sovereignty? This is a nation that once was governed by the rule of law.

The 62 senators who voted for amnesty for those who have broken our laws should be tarred and feathered and run out of Washington on a rail.

My prayer is that as the Senate bill goes to conference with the House Border Security First Bill (H.R. 4437), that House members will hold firm to their resolve and say no to any report that includes guest-worker/amnesty or increases legal immigration

[gsc999]

Originally Posted by dixie

This report acts as if immigrants dont pay taxes at all .. so the "burden" of "funding" immigrants falls on the shoulders of the native born (supposedly the only tax paying residents). Sounds eerily like numbersUSA. Anyways, its hardly a surprise, coming from an untra-conservative state like MS.

This study, by the nonpartisan Urban Institute, provides the most detailed snapshot yet of tax payments by the Washington region immigrant population.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060400965.html

[GCisLottery]

Procedural hurdle for immigration bill

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nat...orld-headlines

But the Constitution gives the House sole authority to originate bills that include revenue measures, and it allows any House member to object if a Senate bill does so.

Although the impasse could prove to be a minor problem, it could provide a way for House members who staunchly oppose the Senate's legalization measures to block any compromise efforts. That could mean no overhaul of immigration policy this year.

Senate leaders are trying to determine how to proceed.

Word of the problem was spreading on Capitol Hill on Thursday as President Bush renewed his push for an immigration bill.

Last week, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, proposed a technical way of skirting the problem. The Senate's immigration bill could be attached to a House tax bill, Frist aides said.

After legislative maneuvers, the two chambers could separate the tax and immigration measures and try, behind closed doors, to negotiate on a final immigration bill.

The Frist plan faces two hurdles. It cannot take effect without a House vote, which would give the House members opposed to the Senate bill a chance to vote it down.

[gsc999]

Originally Posted by GCisLottery

Procedural hurdle for immigration bill

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nat...orld-headlines

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This so-called procedural hurdle depends on definition of "Revenue generation." Intent of CIR is to over-haul the immigration system not to generate additional revenues. Generation of additional revenues is incidental and dependent on happening of a previous event, which in this case is securing congress approval for senate and house "compromise" bill. If the compromise reaches approval stage, it may very well go through all the way. This is best case scenario. Maybe, I am wrong. But there have been exceptions before.

In the Congress the party "whip" has lot more power, Bush might be bearing his weight personally and through Karl Rove on the congressmen. These prucedural options will be looked at once the anti-immigrant congress republicans find themselves in minority.

We will find out the outcome soon.

[mrajatish]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...on_Racism.html
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/14739779.htm