Healthcare Bill May Be Delayed beyond the New Year

[sandy_anand]

The NY Times just reported that Congress may not complete Healthcare bill by year end. Wonder what this means for CIR since they will not touch CIR until Healthcare is done. As it is, CIR has been predicted to have a very short window of opportunity in 2010 before lawmakers get busy with the election season.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009...ul-Senate.html

[go_guy123]

Originally Posted by sandy_anand

The NY Times just reported that Congress may not complete Healthcare bill by year end. Wonder what this means for CIR since they will not touch CIR until Healthcare is done. As it is, CIR has been predicted to have a very short window of opportunity in 2010 before lawmakers get busy with the election season.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009...ul-Senate.html

This makes CIR even more tough. As such 2010 is an election year, that itself makes
CIR very radioactive.

Already republican party people want to pass a bill to add citizenship and immigration status question as a part of 2010 census.....trying to define immigration as an 2010 election issue where democratic party gets on the defensive.

I personally find it tough to comprehend how democratic party can even touch a
radioactive subject like CIR

On the positive side, what I feel will happen is that the repeated failure will splinter the
CIR coalition into piecemeal advocates like Dream act, Skil bill etc..leaving the most toxic amnesty part behind.

[jediknight]

I am all for CIR but why does that mean small pieces of legislation does not get passed.

We are stuck between a Republican party that wants to Obama to fail and Democrats who are too scared to do anything.

Canada, Australia and UK look to be better options each day. Atleast they have universal health care :-)

Maybe once all the talent flees the USA, these law makers will wake up.

[MDix]

I am glad Democrats lost NJ and VA yesterday. Now MR. President will come to know that he needs to move fast and not waste one whole year on Health Care. If Democrats doesn't do the Health Care and Immigration before Nov-2010 then they are bound loose the Majority in both the houses.

Originally Posted by sandy_anand

The NY Times just reported that Congress may not complete Healthcare bill by year end. Wonder what this means for CIR since they will not touch CIR until Healthcare is done. As it is, CIR has been predicted to have a very short window of opportunity in 2010 before lawmakers get busy with the election season.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009...ul-Senate.html

[go_guy123]

Originally Posted by jediknight

I am all for CIR but why does that mean small pieces of legislation does not get passed.

We are stuck between a Republican party that wants to Obama to fail and Democrats who are too scared to do anything.

Canada, Australia and UK look to be better options each day. Atleast they have universal health care :-)

Maybe once all the talent flees the USA, these law makers will wake up.

jediknight...we have discussed this a lot in this forum about CIR and Hispanic Caucus holding off piecemeal for CIR.

[dummgelauft]

Originally Posted by jediknight

I am all for CIR but why does that mean small pieces of legislation does not get passed.

We are stuck between a Republican party that wants to Obama to fail and Democrats who are too scared to do anything.

Canada, Australia and UK look to be better options each day. Atleast they have universal health care :-)

Maybe once all the talent flees the USA, these law makers will wake up.

Remember, the crappy government run hospitals and clinics in India?
Well, Canadian "Universal Health Care" is the same. By the way, how would you like the idea of supporting your own family AND an 18 year old un-wed girl with 4 children form different guys...and some drug addict's deaddiction treatment...That is Universal health care for you.
Dude, God forbid you get sicker than a regular flu or fever, with some sickness that requires you to see a specialist ( like a Gastroentrologist or a ENT doctor)...how does a 4 month wait sound.....go_guy_123 knows what I am talking about.,
Universal healt care only works for those who are helathy, and have healthy children....

[go_guy123]

Originally Posted by dummgelauft

Remember, the crappy government run hospitals and clinics in India?
Well, Canadian "Universal Health Care" is the same. By the way, how would you like the idea of supporting your own family AND an 18 year old un-wed girl with 4 children form different guys...and some drug addict's deaddiction treatment...That is Universal health care for you.
Dude, God forbid you get sicker than a regular flu or fever, with some sickness that requires you to see a specialist ( like a Gastroentrologist or a ENT doctor)...how does a 4 month wait sound.....go_guy_123 knows what I am talking about.,
Universal healt care only works for those who are helathy, and have healthy children....

Yes waiting time in Canada is bad....that the problem of universal health care.
Everybody has access to health care leading to huge wait times.

The alternate is to deny acess to some people in some way ( income is one likely criteria) like in India , US where the wait time for those who can afford private health care is nil.

Its a choice that society makes. We had a discussion on that in our MBA class, the prof wa saying that British Columbia is is the most capitalistic health care in Canada
(by Canadian standards) is the most efficient. I havn't done my research.

a year back i had stepped on glass and had to go to the emergency ward and i had to wait like 1.5 - 2 hours to see a doctor because there were too many patients .
Typically in US a lot of similar people would not have had insurance and avoided going to doctor.

PS: I also avoid going to doctor for random mild fever due to wait times.

[sandy_anand]

Originally Posted by MDix

I am glad Democrats lost NJ and VA yesterday. Now MR. President will come to know that he needs to move fast and not waste one whole year on Health Care. If Democrats doesn't do the Health Care and Immigration before Nov-2010 then they are bound loose the Majority in both the houses.

I agree!

[pointlesswait]

The health care that obama is proposing is about giving a cheaper alternatives to the current pvt companies.

I dont think this policy wil convert health care into a govt owned enterprise... the critics are barking because the health care companies want them to.. FOX and other channels are nothing but bytches of BIG insurance lobbies.

The law that needs to be changed is..deniability on pre existing condition... that will only cut into the profits of BIG insurares...hence the anxiety.

This health care reforms will give the poor and small business a cheaper alternative to the the current expensive options.

this whole talk abt US health care going the socialistic is bollocks...if you see thru the haze..
this policy is all about adding a humane touch to the greedy capitalistic hog houses of the BIG insurance companies...

CIR...that s*^t wont happen ...anytime soon...

Originally Posted by dummgelauft

Remember, the crappy government run hospitals and clinics in India?
Well, Canadian "Universal Health Care" is the same. By the way, how would you like the idea of supporting your own family AND an 18 year old un-wed girl with 4 children form different guys...and some drug addict's deaddiction treatment...That is Universal health care for you.
Dude, God forbid you get sicker than a regular flu or fever, with some sickness that requires you to see a specialist ( like a Gastroentrologist or a ENT doctor)...how does a 4 month wait sound.....go_guy_123 knows what I am talking about.,
Universal healt care only works for those who are helathy, and have healthy children....