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GC_sufferer
08-22-2007, 11:10 AM
"State Department discusses with AILA liaison employment-based immigrant
visa availability."

http://www.aila.org/RecentPosting/RecentPostingList.aspx

Is anyone AILA member here to see the contents? Please post...

gcpadmavyuh
08-22-2007, 11:16 AM
Most of us do not have access to Aila's articles.

mnq1979
08-22-2007, 11:18 AM
I wonder what is this article all about !!! pls. post the text here so that we can read it !!!!!:)

buehler
08-22-2007, 11:18 AM
Murthy or Oh or Carl Shusterman or Greg Siskind will have the contents in their website soon.

raj3078
08-22-2007, 11:21 AM
It would be interesting to know....Wonder how credible their claim of State Dept official discussed with them about Visa Bulletin dates?

hprl
08-22-2007, 11:22 AM
I suspect this thread was copied from that site as the title and most contents are the same!

immi_enthu
08-22-2007, 11:27 AM
Murthy or Oh or Carl Shusterman or Greg Siskind will have the contents in their website soon.

murthy , yeah right. they will have it next month. "oh" will have it soon....

xyz2005
08-22-2007, 11:30 AM
I guess we have to request Greg Siskind to post it on his blog? Usually he is very good in doing that

Best Regards

jfredr
08-22-2007, 11:33 AM
Why not GC_sufferer do it for us

Lasantha
08-22-2007, 11:43 AM
Why not GC_sufferer do it for us

I don't think he can.

jfredr
08-22-2007, 11:52 AM
I don't think he can.

No, he is a good person he can do that
Reason he is member of IV

nefrateedi
08-22-2007, 11:54 AM
No, he is a good person he can do that
Reason he is member of IV

He cannot post it because he cannot view it, as he is not a member of AILA. He stated it in his post.

immi_enthu
08-22-2007, 11:56 AM
No, he is a good person he can do that
Reason he is member of IV

I think jfredr is talking about requesting Greg to post the content at AILA

natrajs
08-22-2007, 11:58 AM
Let us wait , It will be soon discussed openly

jfredr
08-22-2007, 11:59 AM
Hey GC_sufferer sorry i thought u were member of AILA

Libra
08-22-2007, 12:06 PM
people are interested in polling july receipts threads but no one is interested in polling bus ride threads.

Guys, if you belong to any of the states in the following links please poll, participate in rally on sept 18th in DC.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12628

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12567

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12599

gcformeornot
08-22-2007, 12:12 PM
08/22/2007: October 2007 EB Visa Bulletin Prediction of AILA

* Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
o EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
o EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
o EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
o EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
o EB-4: N/A
o EB-5: C
http://www.immigration-law.com/Canada.html

jfredr
08-22-2007, 12:14 PM
Thanks for posting

jfredr
08-22-2007, 12:15 PM
So basically no improvement which anyway we should not expect

rvangipuram
08-22-2007, 12:20 PM
08/22/2007: October 2007 EB Visa Bulletin Prediction of AILA

Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C
This is what I found on immigration-law.com

joeshmoe
08-22-2007, 12:21 PM
That is just perfect ... after waiting 100s of years for EAD now I will wait another 100s for the GC ...

thank you DOS et all ...

lj_rr
08-22-2007, 12:22 PM
08/22/2007: October 2007 EB Visa Bulletin Prediction of AILA

Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C


Most of us do not have access to Aila's articles.

chakalov
08-22-2007, 12:31 PM
Wow! Amazing .... In other words if you want to get GC through employment you better apply for it at birth :-)

08/22/2007: October 2007 EB Visa Bulletin Prediction of AILA

Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C

Libra
08-22-2007, 12:41 PM
or how about attending rally and make it a big success and reduce your wait time to 50s.

That is just perfect ... after waiting 100s of years for EAD now I will wait another 100s for the GC ...

thank you DOS et all ...

rajuseattle
08-22-2007, 12:48 PM
guys,

OH Law firm did post the reliable and credible information from Chaerlie Openheim (VB in charge from state Dept) and his predictions for Oct 2007 VB are similar to the January 2007 VB.

Nothing new about this, lot of websites already published this information.

jonty_11
08-22-2007, 12:57 PM
how abt concentratingon items at hand....Rally, Contributions...etc
rather than sulking over what we already know will happen.

Lets make something HAPPEN....support IV !!!!!!!!

coralfl
08-22-2007, 01:14 PM
Let us Focus on Rally/ Focus on Local Chapter/Focus raising money; if we want to see any change soon.

saibalagi
08-22-2007, 01:49 PM
08/22/2007: October 2007 EB Visa Bulletin Prediction of AILA

Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C
Please stay tuned.

Michael chertoff
08-22-2007, 01:55 PM
Damn man

abhijitp
08-22-2007, 01:57 PM
or how about attending rally and make it a big success and reduce your wait time to 50s.

Well said Libra. People, please focus on working to make the rally a success. The best way you can do this, is to attend! Take the various polls available to help you help yourselves or others!
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12441

If you want the GC, come let's go to DC!

pray
08-22-2007, 02:08 PM
08/22/2007: October 2007 EB Visa Bulletin Prediction of AILA

Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C
Please stay tuned.

Hope this is correct,will be able to get GC soon then,my EB2 PD is August 2003.

BumbleBee
08-22-2007, 02:25 PM
Its beyond me, why would EB3 go back to 2001 when new numbers will be available beginning Oct 07. Disappointed and mad :mad:
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arunarch
08-22-2007, 02:35 PM
I might be wrong, but I think the way it works is by supply and demand. If the supply of new visa numbers is much less than the demand, the dates might go back.

komaragiri
08-22-2007, 02:50 PM
I might be wrong, but I think the way it works is by supply and demand. If the supply of new visa numbers is much less than the demand, the dates might go back.


They worked enough for this year and they have lot to do. According to my guess they have the following pending work.

1. Issue Receipts (Sep/October)
2. Issue EAD cards for approx 300,000 applicants? (October/November/December)
3. Issues AP for 300,000 (October/November/December)


On top of this they need to celebrate thanksgiving and christmas like every citizen. So don't expect too much from them for this year.

If at all there is some momement in EB numbers, that will happen only between Jan-March(before H1-B madness starts).

Good luck !

ArunAntonio
08-22-2007, 02:52 PM
Cant make it to the DC rally?
Sponsor someone else to represent you.

Please vote -- > http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=12441

onemoredesi
08-22-2007, 02:53 PM
Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C

Can any one tell me what EB-3EW means?
Thx

little_willy
08-22-2007, 02:55 PM
Its beyond me, why would EB3 go back to 2001 when new numbers will be available beginning Oct 07. Disappointed and mad

No surprises for me at least. There will be only 816 new EB3 visas available for any country in October. This will move the dates at the most by a month or two and this will continue for ever until a new legislation is passed, that is why DC rally is all the more important and everyone should focus on that to bring in a change.

For folks wondering how I came to the 816 visa number

Total GC available = 140000
7% country limit = 9800
split for EB3 = 3266
spread for each qtr = 816

Good Luck to all and don't have high expectations because you will be disappointed when the bulletin comes out.

anu_t
08-22-2007, 02:58 PM
I am really surprised. Why would it EB3 go back to 2001.
I have just applied for my labour. So I can apply for 485 only after 5/6 years?:mad:

ireddy
08-22-2007, 02:58 PM
They worked enough for this year and they have lot to do. According to my guess they have the following pending work.

1. Issue Receipts (Sep/October)
2. Issue EAD cards for approx 300,000 applicants? (October/November/December)
3. Issues AP for 300,000 (October/November/December)


On top of this they need to celebrate thanksgiving and christmas like every citizen. So don't expect too much from them for this year.

If at all there is some momement in EB numbers, that will happen only between Jan-March(before H1-B madness starts).

Good luck !

I think you missed a new one (in news today)
- Issue new Green Cards for 750,000 (cards without expiration dates have to be replaced)

maine_gc
08-22-2007, 03:04 PM
Unless there is a change in immigration laws it will be very true that you cannot apply for 485 in the next 5 years. To make something happen it is very important to attend DC Rally.

So folks who are reading this, notice the importance of the Rally and your presence at the rally.

I am really surprised. Why would it EB3 go back to 2001.
I have just applied for my labour. So I can apply for 485 only after 5/6 years?:mad:

irock
08-22-2007, 03:05 PM
No surprises for me at least. There will be only 816 new EB3 visas available for any country in October. This will move the dates at the most by a month or two and this will continue for ever until a new legislation is passed, that is why DC rally is all the more important and everyone should focus on that to bring in a change.

For folks wondering how I came to the 816 visa number

Total GC available = 140000
7% country limit = 9800
split for EB3 = 3266
spread for each qtr = 816

Good Luck to all and don't have high expectations because you will be disappointed when the bulletin comes out.

spread it for each month = 272.
number of families per month (assuming 2.5 persons per family): 109 :(

aadimanav
08-22-2007, 03:06 PM
No surprises for me at least. There will be only 816 new EB3 visas available for any country in October. This will move the dates at the most by a month or two and this will continue for ever until a new legislation is passed, that is why DC rally is all the more important and everyone should focus on that to bring in a change.

For folks wondering how I came to the 816 visa number

Total GC available = 140000
7% country limit = 9800
split for EB3 = 3266
spread for each qtr = 816

Good Luck to all and don't have high expectations because you will be disappointed when the bulletin comes out.

and 816 are not primary applicants.... there are spouse and kid(s)...

aadimanav
08-22-2007, 03:07 PM
spread it for each month = 272.
number of families per month (assuming 2.5 persons per family): 109 :(

No wonder dates don't move......:confused:

karnamrao
08-22-2007, 03:13 PM
Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C
Please stay tuned.

irock
08-22-2007, 03:15 PM
Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C

Can any one tell me what EB-3EW means?
Thx

EB-3 EW means "Employment Third Preference Other Worker".

jonty_11
08-22-2007, 03:17 PM
Based on the discussion with Charlie Oppenheim, Chief of Immigrant Visa Control and Reporting, DOS, the AILA has just released the following predictions:
EB-1 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-2 (All Countries): Closely match to September 2007 VB
EB-3 (All Countries): Similar to January 2007 VB
EB-3EW (All Countries): 10/01/2001
EB-4: N/A
EB-5: C
Please stay tuned.
check b4 u post man....this thing has been cut and paste a billion times...
Concentrate on the DC Rally instead plz

JunRN
08-22-2007, 07:34 PM
I am really surprised. Why would it EB3 go back to 2001.
I have just applied for my labour. So I can apply for 485 only after 5/6 years?:mad:

Make thing worse....your labor expires after six months, so you have to re-apply again..and again...and again...and again...and again....

cheg
08-22-2007, 07:44 PM
Hi JunRN. After reading your post I googled if labor certification does have an expiration. According to: http://www.hooyou.com/lc/faq.html , it doesn't. Did you have to re-apply for yours? Thanks!

Make thing worse....your labor expires after six months, so you have to re-apply again..and again...and again...and again...and again....

roseball
08-22-2007, 07:55 PM
Make thing worse....your labor expires after six months, so you have to re-apply again..and again...and again...and again...and again....


Starting July 16th, 2007, labor certification has a 60 day validity period. Meaning, a I-140 petition needs to be filed within 60 days from labor approval date....If immigrant visa numbers are unavailable (dates retrogressed), you wont be able to file your I-140/I-485 concurrently but you can file your I-140 petition irrespective of your priority date as long as you have a labor approved. You dont have to apply for your labor again and again....Its just that, once you get your I-140 approved, you will have to wait for dates to become current to file I-485...

cheg
08-22-2007, 08:16 PM
Thanks for the info, roseball!

http://www.nafsa.org/regulatory_information.sec/regulatory_document_library.dlib/employment-based_immigration/final_rule_on_labor_certification

Starting July 16th, 2007, labor certification has a 60 day validity period. Meaning, a I-140 petition needs to be filed within 60 days from labor approval date....If immigrant visa numbers are unavailable (dates retrogressed), you wont be able to file your I-140/I-485 concurrently but you can file your I-140 petition irrespective of your priority date as long as you have a labor approved. You dont have to apply for your labor again and again....Its just that, once you get your I-140 approved, you will have to wait for dates to become current to file I-485...

BumbleBee
08-22-2007, 08:48 PM
Starting July 16th, 2007, labor certification has a 60 day validity period. Meaning, a I-140 petition needs to be filed within 60 days from labor approval date....If immigrant visa numbers are unavailable (dates retrogressed), you wont be able to file your I-140/I-485 concurrently but you can file your I-140 petition irrespective of your priority date as long as you have a labor approved. You dont have to apply for your labor again and again....Its just that, once you get your I-140 approved, you will have to wait for dates to become current to file I-485...

Now that make sense :)

JunRN
08-22-2007, 09:37 PM
It's 180-days validity. Good for those with H1 or L1 but not for others, who doesn't wish to apply I-140 without their PD being current.

gccube
08-22-2007, 09:41 PM
The recent AILA prediction on the cutoff dates for EB3 for the month of october, how accurate can they be considering the following.

1. Dates until May 08 2001 were current for a long time until 2007 June. So most of the guys with that priority dates have already applied for AOS. Most of them might already gotten their GC. There may be a very few stuck in the process but that number should be very less.

2. For the month of June 2007 they moved the dates ahead by more than 2 years with whatever information they have.

3. Now by October 2007 there might be a few more cases, with PD before 2001 May 08, might get added but this number should be very less(I think).

Considering these factors how can there be a huge demand for visa nos with PDs before May 08 2001?

May be I am missing something really big here. My guess (wild) would be it would move ahead by atleast a year from Pre June 2001 VB dates when they open up in October 2008. Anyway I don't have as much info (or exp) as AILA and I could be grossly wrong.

This is no advice or suggestion, but purely my opinion.

JunRN
08-22-2007, 09:57 PM
Factors you forgot to consider:

1. EB1 and EB2 applicants this July and Aug. ate up the numbers that were made available to EB3 last June 2007.

2. EB3 Visa number is just very few, around 800 per month per PICM country.

indianindian2006
08-22-2007, 10:31 PM
Starting July 16th, 2007, labor certification has a 60 day validity period. Meaning, a I-140 petition needs to be filed within 60 days from labor approval date....If immigrant visa numbers are unavailable (dates retrogressed), you wont be able to file your I-140/I-485 concurrently but you can file your I-140 petition irrespective of your priority date as long as you have a labor approved. You dont have to apply for your labor again and again....Its just that, once you get your I-140 approved, you will have to wait for dates to become current to file I-485...

Looks like this needs correction.Labors expire after 180 days from approval date after July 16th.

http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/fraud_faqs_07-13-07.pdf
Read on page 4

andy garcia
08-22-2007, 11:14 PM
Looks like this needs correction.Labors expire after 180 days from approval date after July 16th.

http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/fraud_faqs_07-13-07.pdf
Read on page 4

Labor certifications approved on or after July 16, 2007, will expire 180 days from their date of issue, unless filed prior to expiration with the DHS in support of a Form I-140 immigrant petition for an alien worker.

JunRN
08-22-2007, 11:25 PM
Labor certifications approved on or after July 16, 2007, will expire 180 days from their date of issue, unless filed prior to expiration with the DHS in support of a Form I-140 immigrant petition for an alien worker.

Not good for those without dual-intent visas (F1, etc).

satish_hello
08-23-2007, 12:04 AM
Just Thought

There is 200k application without 140 approval, this is including july filers.

there is lot of chnace for those who got their I-140 approved, even their PD '2006.

you can see people getting approved PD'2005 EB2 cases, even then VB says now 2004'apr for EB2.They are not processing based on PD now and in future also i gues.Since we have already filed.PD will restrict only to File I-485 in future.

I think EB2-jan2007 and EB3-Aprl2005 in October VB

- satish

JunRN
08-23-2007, 12:22 AM
Eb3 will definitely retrogress by about 2 years. Maybe back to June 2002 or 2003.

keshtwo
08-23-2007, 03:26 PM
Just Thought

There is 200k application without 140 approval, this is including july filers.

there is lot of chnace for those who got their I-140 approved, even their PD '2006.

you can see people getting approved PD'2005 EB2 cases, even then VB says now 2004'apr for EB2.They are not processing based on PD now and in future also i gues.Since we have already filed.PD will restrict only to File I-485 in future.

I think EB2-jan2007 and EB3-Aprl2005 in October VB

- satish



Is that a guess or a wild hope? Why set up oneself for a massive disappointment just 3 weeks down the line? Mostly What AILA says will be true. However we shouldn't rule out regression for EB2ers anytime after November. It can happen. No one really understands the logic used by uscis and dos.

milind70
08-23-2007, 03:54 PM
Just Thought

There is 200k application without 140 approval, this is including july filers.

there is lot of chnace for those who got their I-140 approved, even their PD '2006.

you can see people getting approved PD'2005 EB2 cases, even then VB says now 2004'apr for EB2.They are not processing based on PD now and in future also i gues.Since we have already filed.PD will restrict only to File I-485 in future.

I think EB2-jan2007 and EB3-Aprl2005 in October VB

- satish

This is not correct . Approval is only when your PD is current. People who got approval for PD 2005 EB2 cases were actually approved in July .Thier approval date is July 2007 when then the VB was current. VB is not just for filing,earlier in 2004 some people were approved when thier PD dates were not current, their approvals were cancelled. Part of the reason why July VB was made current so approvals made during that time who be as per as the VB. I had a friend who recieved notification that his GC was approved but his approval date is in July on the notice but he recieved it in Aug when his PD was not current.

pray
08-23-2007, 04:26 PM
Just Thought

There is 200k application without 140 approval, this is including july filers.

there is lot of chnace for those who got their I-140 approved, even their PD '2006.

you can see people getting approved PD'2005 EB2 cases, even then VB says now 2004'apr for EB2.They are not processing based on PD now and in future also i gues.Since we have already filed.PD will restrict only to File I-485 in future.

I think EB2-jan2007 and EB3-Aprl2005 in October VB

- satish

That is wishful thinking.I know people with more recent priority dates got cleared in june but it will go back to PD system from now on again,how else can they do it.The reason why (to eveyone's surprise) they made everything current was to clear some of these cases which were filed long ago(I-485) but were stuck due to the retrogression.This is obviously not going to happen again for sometime since they now have hundreds of thousands of more cases.

flipflop
08-23-2007, 05:09 PM
I still don't get it. There are around 300k AOS applications now pending. Given that there are only 10k EB based green cards for India, and I am sure there are more applications than 10k for FY2008 and still Visa bulletin for Oct indicates a date of Apr 2004. Should it not be "U" for the entire FY2008?

milind70
08-23-2007, 05:13 PM
That is wishful thinking.I know people with more recent priority dates got cleared in june but it will go back to PD system from now on again,how else can they do it.The reason why (to eveyone's surprise) they made everything current was to clear some of these cases which were filed long ago(I-485) but were stuck due to the retrogression.This is obviously not going to happen again for sometime since they now have hundreds of thousands of more cases.

I think this will happen again but only in the last quarter when USCIS has to utilise all the visa numbers .With the fiasco that happened in July ,there will be a substantial movement in PDs for June 2008 VB or in the last quarter as they will want to approve cases which have been cleared but cant be approved due to PD not being current. So we will see this kind of scenario almost every last quarter. Also there is a high probablity because
1. they would not like to waste visa numbers .
2. USCIS in under the pressure for media to work in a more efficient manner and justify the fee hikes
3. this also happens to make some people from the immigrant community happy ( atleast something is happening rather than nothing is happening)

satish_hello
08-23-2007, 11:28 PM
Ok..., but can you tell me how they are approving cses for PD EB3'2003 or Any EB3 cases daily, when EB3 is 'U', do you have answer for this.

Since ther is plenty of approval going on everyday.

They are not following any PD for the last 3-months approval, I don't believe any rule they have.Now they are already under pressure , and the pressure started already.They have to clean up.I don't think they will wait untill next year June, since Election is on Sept'2008.

-satish
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EB2/PD-Sept'2004/I-140 Approved.
I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
Edit/Delete Message

rdoib
08-23-2007, 11:31 PM
We got to get it done and make solid impact rest is futile

natrajs
08-24-2007, 12:26 AM
Ok..., but can you tell me how they are approving cses for PD EB3'2003 or Any EB3 cases daily, when EB3 is 'U', do you have answer for this.

Since ther is plenty of approval going on everyday.

They are not following any PD for the last 3-months approval, I don't believe any rule they have.Now they are already under pressure , and the pressure started already.They have to clean up.I don't think they will wait untill next year June, since Election is on Sept'2008.

-satish
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EB2/PD-Sept'2004/I-140 Approved.
I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
Edit/Delete Message

No one has any clue that how USCIS is approving any cases. However the election is has no impact on USCIS process.

BUT IV's Effort has it!!!!!!

Imm_Exploited
08-24-2007, 01:26 AM
Can you vote as a GC applicant or even a permanent resident? NO

You would think you could influence the Americans to support your cause and vote accordingly in the elections. FORGET IT!! Let alone the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.......17th generation American citizens, even the recently naturalized immigrants don't give a crap about us immigrants. The media and the politicians just have a field time with the immigrants (both legal and illegal) and some ignorant and dumb Americans (who don't usually vote) who get easily carried away by the emotions played both for and against immigration.

The serious voters (this has been established by several polls) however, are quite aware that immigrants are not given relief and naturalized overnight and are obviously confident that it could take around 20 years for any immigrant to get naturalized. The issues for these serious voters are: Iraq war, economy (the dwindling housing market?), globalization, gay marriage, abortion, and imports from China.

I wish good luck for IV and all those participating at the DC rally. NO, I can't make it, I am sorry.

Ok..., but can you tell me how they are approving cses for PD EB3'2003 or Any EB3 cases daily, when EB3 is 'U', do you have answer for this.

Since ther is plenty of approval going on everyday.

They are not following any PD for the last 3-months approval, I don't believe any rule they have.Now they are already under pressure , and the pressure started already.They have to clean up.I don't think they will wait untill next year June, since Election is on Sept'2008.

-satish
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EB2/PD-Sept'2004/I-140 Approved.
I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
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gc_chahiye
08-24-2007, 06:39 AM
I still don't get it. There are around 300k AOS applications now pending. Given that there are only 10k EB based green cards for India, and I am sure there are more applications than 10k for FY2008 and still Visa bulletin for Oct indicates a date of Apr 2004. Should it not be "U" for the entire FY2008?

how can it be U for whole of 2008? they have to atleast those 10K GCs to Indians and can only do so if the dates are not U.

kaisersose
08-24-2007, 11:42 AM
I still don't get it. There are around 300k AOS applications now pending. Given that there are only 10k EB based green cards for India, and I am sure there are more applications than 10k for FY2008 and still Visa bulletin for Oct indicates a date of Apr 2004. Should it not be "U" for the entire FY2008?

No.

There are 2 agencies involved here - DOS and USCIS. Visa numbers and cut-off dates are owned by DOS. 485 applications are held and processed by USCIS as and when visa numbers are released by DOS.

kaisersose
08-24-2007, 11:45 AM
Ok..., but can you tell me how they are approving cses for PD EB3'2003 or Any EB3 cases daily, when EB3 is 'U', do you have answer for this.

Since ther is plenty of approval going on everyday.

They are not following any PD for the last 3-months approval, I don't believe any rule they have.Now they are already under pressure , and the pressure started already.They have to clean up.I don't think they will wait untill next year June, since Election is on Sept'2008.

-satish
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I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
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These approvals happened weeks ago when PDs were current. These cases were already processed and were only awaiting visa numbers. Assigning visa numbers is a trivial task.

The harder task of updating records and generating paper work takes time and that is why you see approvals coming out daily. USCIS cannot even generate receipts in a timely manner - why would they be any quicker on paperwork for GC approvals?

kaisersose
08-24-2007, 11:55 AM
Can you vote as a GC applicant or even a permanent resident? NO

You would think you could influence the Americans to support your cause and vote accordingly in the elections. FORGET IT!! Let alone the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.......17th generation American citizens, even the recently naturalized immigrants don't give a crap about us immigrants. The media and the politicians just have a field time with the immigrants (both legal and illegal) and some ignorant and dumb Americans (who don't usually vote) who get easily carried away by the emotions played both for and against immigration.

The serious voters (this has been established by several polls) however, are quite aware that immigrants are not given relief and naturalized overnight and are obviously confident that it could take around 20 years for any immigrant to get naturalized. The issues for these serious voters are: Iraq war, economy (the dwindling housing market?), globalization, gay marriage, abortion, and imports from China.

I wish good luck for IV and all those participating at the DC rally. NO, I can't make it, I am sorry.

A very pessimistic and inaccurate outlook.

If this was indeed true, there would have been no Ac21 act back in 2000. No PERM system would have been created to replace the cranky RIR system. The July 2007 visa bulletin would not have been reversed. Just look back at the last 10 years and see how many changes have happened in the system. Believe me, if apathy was their attitude, they would not have implemented any of the above and their inaction would not have impacted them in any way.

Having said that, I must also caution some over-enthusiastic people who believe a walk in DC will solve all their immigration problems. We all certainly hope something will happen, but we should not be distraught if nothing happens. We just need to keep pushing instead of talking on a defeatist attitude due to setting wrong expectations out of one single rally.