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eb3retro
07-13-2010, 10:39 PM
Just creating this poll to find out how many folks in IV are waiting with 2002 PD for Eb3-India alone. Please vote.

smarth
07-13-2010, 11:12 PM
mine is EB3 2004 april

eb3retro
07-13-2010, 11:31 PM
thanks for voting smarth and others..


mine is EB3 2004 april

my_gc_wait
07-14-2010, 01:56 AM
Voted,
PD Nov2003 EB3I

SGP
07-14-2010, 09:58 AM
Mine is NOV 2002

kchakrav
07-14-2010, 10:00 AM
Voted. Jan-2002.

tamil12
07-14-2010, 10:05 AM
Voted August 2003

uffyegc
07-14-2010, 10:08 AM
March 18 2004

kumar9844
07-14-2010, 10:25 AM
Voted April 2003

GeetaRam
07-14-2010, 10:38 AM
Mine is EB3 2005

gc28262
07-14-2010, 10:39 AM
voted

eb3retro
07-14-2010, 10:47 AM
thanks everyone for voting.

Caliber
07-14-2010, 10:48 AM
Voted

amulchandra
07-14-2010, 10:54 AM
alive here? I do not see anyone from EB3 posting here anymore. Probably considered as an extinct group. Our EB3 PD is June 2006. I lost hope. My company started my labor a couple of months ago in EB2.That also will not help I think. Sometimes it gets really depressing.

Thanks for the poll.


Amul

probe
07-14-2010, 11:01 AM
Done check my signature

Suva
07-14-2010, 11:01 AM
You are right. I don't see also EB3 folks posting here anymore.

alive here? I do not see anyone from EB3 posting here anymore. Probably considered as an extinct group. Our EB3 PD is June 2006. I lost hope. My company started my labor a couple of months ago in EB2.That also will not help I think. Sometimes it gets really depressing.

Thanks for the poll.


Amul

GeetaRam
07-14-2010, 11:01 AM
hey Amul,

Why you said that your company started new EB2 labor... are u planning to port? I am also trying to do the same. So it didn't work or what happened? Plz clarify

amulchandra
07-14-2010, 11:06 AM
Hi Geetaram,

EB3 PD was my spouse's PD. EB2 is mine.So no porting for us.

Hope this clarifies

bhatiap
07-14-2010, 11:22 AM
Done.

EB3 India. Sep 2004.

nk29
07-14-2010, 11:23 AM
Mine is October 2004 EB3 I. No hope of porting

Caliber
07-14-2010, 11:28 AM
Hi Geetaram,

EB3 PD was my spouse's PD. EB2 is mine.So no porting for us.

Hope this clarifies

I think you can port between spouse. Please do not ask me proof. Search in IV.

puding
07-14-2010, 11:35 AM
Voted. October 2004. EB3 India.

battineni
07-14-2010, 11:54 AM
mine is EB3 2004 april
Mine Mar 15th 2004 :-((

sunny1000
07-14-2010, 11:57 AM
voted.

Slave_2k
07-14-2010, 12:05 PM
voted.

May 03 was when my Jail sentence started. Anxiously waiting for immigration reform before the few hair left on my head also falls.

immigc06
07-14-2010, 12:14 PM
Mine is Feb 2003.

GCNeophyte
07-14-2010, 12:32 PM
voted .. PD: Dec 2002

ireddy
07-14-2010, 01:01 PM
Voted Oct 2002

reddymjm
07-14-2010, 01:30 PM
I think you can port between spouse. Please do not ask me proof. Search in IV.
u r right caliber.

spicy_guy
07-14-2010, 01:34 PM
Mine is October 2004 EB3 I. No hope of porting

Same as yours.

amulchandra
07-14-2010, 01:50 PM
Hi reddymjm,

I am sorry to bother you with questions.But are you sure? Can you please sight any cases that were successful using that route. My company will be more than happy to do it if that is the case. My HR is extremely understanding.

Thanks in advance

Amul

san_nish
07-14-2010, 03:01 PM
EB3 May 2002 priority date.

rameshvaid
07-14-2010, 03:12 PM
July 2003 - EB 3 I

saro28
07-14-2010, 03:18 PM
Done! can't wait for August

eb3retro
07-14-2010, 03:24 PM
thanks saro28. its been a long wait for you. hope you get your GC soon.

Done! can't wait for August

pd2001_12
07-14-2010, 03:33 PM
Done! can't wait for August At last found some one with same ~PD as mine. I thought i am the lone one batting here. :)

Caliber
07-14-2010, 03:44 PM
Hi reddymjm,

I am sorry to bother you with questions.But are you sure? Can you please sight any cases that were successful using that route. My company will be more than happy to do it if that is the case. My HR is extremely understanding.

Thanks in advance

Amul

There were several successful cases. Search in IV and / or Murthy

Caliber
07-14-2010, 07:05 PM
that does not match at all with USCIS inventory of 8000 plus for 2002. Can there be such a big gap?

I am surprised too. Even in IV, people did not vote. So, really there are not many people?

TeddyKoochu
07-14-2010, 07:18 PM
that does not match at all with USCIS inventory of 8000 plus for 2002. Can there be such a big gap?

Try the following.

- Country of chargeability - india
- Category - Eb3
- PD : Jan 2002 to Dec 2002
- Status - pending

The number is 288.

Multiply this by 26 (This is the factor QSK used). This yields 7488. Which is quite close to the inventory.

dask
07-14-2010, 07:21 PM
Gurus voted ....
btw any chance that EB3-I will move to Feb 2002 in the next bulletin. I am not optimistic on that...:mad::mad::mad:

~dask
EB3-I
PD Jan 31 2002

eb3retro
07-14-2010, 07:26 PM
that seems to be meaningful. if QSK/Teddykoochu is calculating then the numbers will be correct. (I have been following the way you guys doing a tremendous job on crunching those numbers).

Try the following.

- Country of chargeability - india
- Category - Eb3
- PD : Jan 2002 to Dec 2002
- Status - pending

The number is 288.

Multiply this by 26 (This is the factor QSK used). This yields 7488. Which is quite close to the inventory.

TeddyKoochu
07-14-2010, 07:26 PM
Gurus voted ....
btw any chance that EB3-I will move to Feb 2002 in the next bulletin. I am not optimistic on that...:mad::mad::mad:

~dask
EB3-I
PD Jan 31 2002

I would say 60% in Sep 2010 and 100% in Oct 2010, all the very best.

TeddyKoochu
07-14-2010, 07:33 PM
that seems to be meaningful. if QSK/Teddykoochu is calculating then the numbers will be correct. (I have been following the way you guys doing a tremendous job on crunching those numbers).

I believe your objective is to find out porting. The inventory really is supposed to correct itself with porting EB3 should reduce and Eb2 should increase. QSK & GC_PERM have pointed this out but mostly this is in the period beyond 2002, in fact really 2004-2007. To have the exact figures I believe you should look at the latest inventory at the start of 2011 just to have the exact figure. It will be approx 3K per year math from there. Most EB3-I friends are actually staying put for PD in 2002. the total significant porting this year was guesstimated to be less than 3K, this is distributed all over the place more in the later years.

jpmaddali
07-14-2010, 08:51 PM
alive here? I do not see anyone from EB3 posting here anymore. Probably considered as an extinct group. Our EB3 PD is June 2006. I lost hope. My company started my labor a couple of months ago in EB2.That also will not help I think. Sometimes it gets really depressing.

Thanks for the poll.


Amul

Hi Amul,

I'm also in the same boat. My PD is Jan 2006. My company started proceedings for filing PERM labor in EB2. I'm little surprised looking at your comment that, it too doesn't help. Would you please elaborate. After lot of hardship, I convinced my folks to refile.

Caliber
07-15-2010, 10:56 AM
Multiply this by 26 (This is the factor QSK used). This yields 7488. Which is quite close to the inventory.

So, out of 7488, IV has just less than few 100 members? I was under the wrong impression that the only members that are left out are mainly EB3. So, we are almost dead. So, what is the use of IV trying to recapture Visa's? By that time the recapture happens, we will be completely dead by that time.

No use of GC's for dead bodies. Or is there any use? Do Coffins also need GC's?

amulchandra
07-15-2010, 12:26 PM
Hi jpmaddali,

I am sorry for the confusion. EB3 is my spouse's PD. EB2 is mine.

Thank you

AMul

TeddyKoochu
07-15-2010, 12:49 PM
So, out of 7488, IV has just less than few 100 members? I was under the wrong impression that the only members that are left out are mainly EB3. So, we are almost dead. So, what is the use of IV trying to recapture Visa's? By that time the recapture happens, we will be completely dead by that time.

No use of GC's for dead bodies. Or is there any use? Do Coffins also need GC's?

Actually the real truth is the 8K inventory that is the official document and is supposed to get updated everything to take into account approvals, denials porting etc. The inventory though is only the USCIS Inventory, we also have district offices and CP, so you might like to add maybe 1000 to the 8k. QSK's predictions have been largely accurate and with factor the numbers match up. I would say that if IV can enforce people updating their profiles we can derive some interpretations from here itself. IV's fan following among both EB2 & EB3 is equally great.

In the absence of any reform the situation is dire for everybody if you belong to a retrogressed country, I have to agree that unfortunately EB3-I is in a very bad situation and the situation is equally bad for those who have not been able to file for their 485 yet.

I have asked this question earlier on recapture that why did the previous recaptures not capture all the wasted visa why only a certain number. A small recapture would only be a temporary band aid again while a full one will give everybody their GC's and keep the dates current for a significant time. The range I keep hearing is 50K - 300K. 50K may not just be sufficient.

satyasrd
07-15-2010, 01:07 PM
Most people in EB3 with EAD's have settled down to their mundane lives. A job and EAD is sufficient for them and most of them have no interest in fighting. Oh, if IV fights for them and maybe is successful tomorrow, of course they would line up for their GC share.
I have no idea how to wake such people up and believe me I have tried with ones I am acquainted with.

eb3retro
07-15-2010, 02:12 PM
let me guess, u r in Eb2? :D:D:D I am not sure who the heck gave you the power to judge others. if you got your GC, good for you. and as far as you judging others, I would suggest you keep it to yourself and not post it here. we are better off without your stupid posts.

You are right. This is the reason why EB3 India have suddenly woken up. Till now everyone had EAD and were happy in status quo. They are seeing EB2 India getting green cards that is better than their happy EAD status till now. The real fight is about why EB2 is getting green cards before me. It is not about why I am not meeting my Senator and you went before me to meet him.

You can give me all reds you want, but I will post bitter truths.

dval_dpal
07-15-2010, 02:29 PM
just vote

EB-3 india
PD- june 2004

spicy_guy
07-15-2010, 05:06 PM
You are right. This is the reason why EB3 India have suddenly woken up. Till now everyone had EAD and were happy in status quo. They are seeing EB2 India getting green cards that is better than their happy EAD status till now. The real fight is about why EB2 is getting green cards before me. It is not about why I am not meeting my Senator and you went before me to meet him.

You can give me all reds you want, but I will post bitter truths.

You think you have done a damn job of convincing USCIS to move EB2 dates forward? And what else did you do to move the EB2 dates forward?

Lets all hear....

texas21
07-15-2010, 05:35 PM
Voted. PD Jan 29, 2002

arumalla
07-16-2010, 05:28 PM
EB3 - India
PD - May 2005

spicy_guy
07-16-2010, 07:24 PM
So only 155 EB3 I on this forum?

eb3retro
07-19-2010, 02:56 PM
wow, only 164 people voted from EB3-I. out of which only 60 people before jan1st 2003. Pappu, by any chance could you run a report in IV database to see how many people are regd under eb3india and with their PDs before and after jan 1st 2003. This is just a IV poll for eb3-I.

wtg4GCeb3
07-19-2010, 04:01 PM
EB3-Nov2004

dehradoon
07-19-2010, 05:26 PM
July 2002, my wife and I, it took eb3 india 8 years to move 8 months

tuhin
07-19-2010, 05:49 PM
voted

Ind_murali
07-19-2010, 09:57 PM
Voted,
PD Mar2003 EB3I

gk_2000
07-19-2010, 10:16 PM
I voted too..
PD D-2007

hanu_78
07-20-2010, 08:59 AM
My priority date is September 2002.
In a dilemma whether to port to EB2 or just wait for one more year to see if priority date moves to end of 2002.

Any suggestions?

SGP
07-20-2010, 10:01 AM
Same here...mine is November 2002....have been wondering the same....any suggestions????

kartikiran
07-20-2010, 10:21 AM
Whoever can port must port. Unless your PD is close to mine...in my case, I am starting the process. take a look at my PD. I do not trust the USCIS and also I clear the way for other members rather than unnecessarily clogging up this EB3 crowd. Instead since I can port I am making way for others by moving to EB2.

No gurantees that EB3-India will not retrogress to Nov 2001 in October 2010(start of new fiscal year).

Of course this is not an attorney's advice, but I think when porting does not affect my current application till the 140 gets cleared in the new app, there is no harm in trying.

eb3retro
07-20-2010, 10:31 AM
i am trying to start the process of porting too..

Whoever can port must port. Unless your PD is close to mine...in my case, I am starting the process. take a look at my PD. I do not trust the USCIS and also I clear the way for other members rather than unnecessarily clogging up this EB3 crowd. Instead since I can port I am making way for others by moving to EB2.

No gurantees that EB3-India will not retrogress to Nov 2001 in October 2010(start of new fiscal year).

Of course this is not an attorney's advice, but I think when porting does not affect my current application till the 140 gets cleared in the new app, there is no harm in trying.

Edison99
07-20-2010, 10:54 AM
Good idea....

Whoever can port must port. Unless your PD is close to mine...in my case, I am starting the process. take a look at my PD. I do not trust the USCIS and also I clear the way for other members rather than unnecessarily clogging up this EB3 crowd. Instead since I can port I am making way for others by moving to EB2.

No gurantees that EB3-India will not retrogress to Nov 2001 in October 2010(start of new fiscal year).

Of course this is not an attorney's advice, but I think when porting does not affect my current application till the 140 gets cleared in the new app, there is no harm in trying.

spicy_guy
07-20-2010, 01:05 PM
My priority date is September 2002.
In a dilemma whether to port to EB2 or just wait for one more year to see if priority date moves to end of 2002.

Any suggestions?

We are reasonably close to cut off dates and you are thinking about porting...

What should others (EB3 I 2003 and beyond ) be thinking? :D

GC_Govinda
07-20-2010, 01:18 PM
Remember June 2007 Bulletin - before the July Fiasco?
EB3-I got screwed because of the July Fiasco.
It was 01JUN03 in the June 2007 bulletin. July 2007 happened which made every category current and at the same time, GUESS WHAT - labor substitution was getting sunset.
As every category was current, OLD EB3-I Labors were sold and the sale was more popular in the immigrant circles than all the thanks giving and christamas sales combined !!!
Desi consuslting companies sold the labors to employees, "future employees", kith and kin and every tom dick a harry - even in India. The sale price ranged from a couple of grands to even 10-15 thousand US Dollars and it was like selling the old wine/whiskey - the older the PD more expensive the labor was.:D
All this was because USCIS abandoned labor substitution and gave a few weeks of "window" time before people can take advantage of it.
So EB3-I is royally screwed because of this more than anything else.
I personally know many poeple who came after me, bought an old labor and sitting pretty on GCs or applied 485/EAD.
I am happy for all the people who got a chance to apply for 485/EAD because of the July bulletin, but this whole thing is an injustice to people who missed filing because the labor was pending or the person is not yet married. :(
The sad thing for people from India is the way 485 is associated with personal events like marriage and I am sure you all know the complexities involved but no one in the USCIS or the congress can really understand the issue!!!
In my situation, I cannot port to EB2 as I am working on permanant basis and have no idea if I should wait. For now, life is normal with EAD and AP. But even AP is taking a log time for renewal Applied in May 2010 and heard nothing yet !!:mad:

sayonara
07-20-2010, 01:22 PM
Does porting to EB-2 (starting the application) have any impact on the EAD received thru EB-3 (July Fiasco)? Any other implicit implications of porting to job change/ AC21 / number of years left on H1 etc.?

Thanks folks !

kartikiran
07-20-2010, 01:24 PM
Does porting to EB-2 (starting the application) have any impact on the EAD received thru EB-3 (July Fiasco)? Any other implicit implications of porting to job change/ AC21 / number of years left on H1 etc.?

Thanks folks !

none. people have to take fear out of their minds about the new EB2 app which might somehow affect their status of their EB3 app.

this was the attorney's advice to me.

wtg4GCeb3
07-20-2010, 03:05 PM
My Husband is also planning to port . But we did my husband's education evaluation and they gave Undergrad credits even he has master degree(India Msc).
We spoke to immigration Attorney and she told us to file in eb2.
Is it good idea to file in EB2? please give me ur suggestion?

smuggymba
07-20-2010, 03:13 PM
IS it 3+2 education or 4+2? Bsc, Msc can be an issue since Bsc is 3 yrs.