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humdesi
09-13-2006, 01:24 AM
Since EB3 India is retrogressed and is expected to remain retrogressed for a long time, it would be useful to see what the priority dates distribution is. This will give us an idea how many applications are with USCIS.

Please vote for this poll only if you are EB3 India. There will be a separate poll for EB2.

brb2
09-13-2006, 09:09 AM
In the poll results, there is a vote for before 2001 EB3. How come? Is it stuck for name/background check? The EB3 date for India has never gone beyond 2001 for a while now. Ahmm?

Since EB3 world has a large number as seen from the previous poll, can you make one for worldwide EB3 as well?
thanks.

dan19
09-13-2006, 11:41 AM
I guess most people in this forum are 2001-2003 LC people.
2004 and above doesn't need to discuss/track their cases anytime soon.

swarnapuri
09-13-2006, 12:08 PM
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=161571&page=260&pp=15

qplearn
09-13-2006, 01:00 PM
Can we figure out how many EB3 are switching over to EB2?

GC_SUCK
09-13-2006, 01:07 PM
My lawyer is planing to file for PERM EB2. My company is creating a completely new postion with new job title for that (ofcourse this job is available to me after I get GC).

My question is can I use the experience from my current job position at the same company for New position at the same company to qualify for PERM.

I will appreciate your help.

Thanks

dan19
09-13-2006, 01:52 PM
Responsibilities should be different - This is what my lawyer told me.
Example: You are filing as a manager and previously you were a software developer.

Again, This is a complex issue as far as I know. Consult with a good attorney before proceeding.

My question is can I use the experience from my current job position at the same company for New position at the same company to qualify for PERM.

I will appreciate your help.

Thanks

GC_SUCK
09-13-2006, 01:59 PM
My current title is Software Developer and future title will be Business Analyst or Information system Analyst.

Gurus, help me here...!

Responsibilities should be different - This is what my lawyer told me.
Example: You are filing as a manager and previously you were a software developer.

Again, This is a complex issue as far as I know. Consult with a good attorney before proceeding.

485Mbe4001
09-13-2006, 02:11 PM
any guesstimate on how many people are stuck in 2001 and 2002... that will give an idea on how the numbers will move in future. i mean if those two years have 10000 - 50000 indian EB3/EB3 indians as some people mention..i dont know how the numbers will move forward and time soon...there is no reliable information, just guesses...can we ask for this information from CIS.

I mean even if we can apply for 140 after some date, i wonder how long we will have to wait in the next stage till we get the GC...its just a nightmare

The other issue a friend mentioned was that a number of people who had applied for 140 with PD 1999 -2002 and approved labor have actually returned but their files are still being processed and thus they consume visa numbers. This causes an incorrect visa bulletin date...

gcseeker2002
09-14-2006, 12:23 PM
I am not sure if the numbers in this forum are anything to rely on, but if we do, we can clearly see that by switching over to Eb2 from Eb3, we are jumping from frying pan to fire , because the number of Eb2 India in 2005 and 2006 are way way high than Eb3. Of course if you have a approved I140 in Eb3 , it is a different story.

485Mbe4001
09-14-2006, 12:49 PM
it is very difficult to gauge using these polls. They just give us an idea on the IV membership composition. The other problem is that many people have applied in BOTH EB3 & EB2, some have multiple applications in the same categeory...Desis are unique with the herd mentality..i am sure some day even EB1 will be over subscribed..wonder why we are so desperate to leave the home base:rolleyes: ...

I am not sure if the numbers in this forum are anything to rely on, but if we do, we can clearly see that by switching over to Eb2 from Eb3, we are jumping from frying pan to fire , because the number of Eb2 India in 2005 and 2006 are way way high than Eb3. Of course if you have a approved I140 in Eb3 , it is a different story.

immilaw
09-14-2006, 03:18 PM
Can we figure out how many EB3 are switching over to EB2?

If you have an EB-3 I-140 approval notice and are now eligible to file EB-2 application then your company will file a PERM application under EB-2 category. Once the PERM is approved, the company will file the I-140 under EB-2 and will enclose the EB-3 I-140 copy requesting the US CIS to grant you the earlier priority date (from EB-3). Simple. :D

immilaw
09-14-2006, 03:20 PM
My lawyer is planing to file for PERM EB2. My company is creating a completely new postion with new job title for that (ofcourse this job is available to me after I get GC).

My question is can I use the experience from my current job position at the same company for New position at the same company to qualify for PERM.

I will appreciate your help.

Thanks

The job duties/responsibilities that you want to use from the same company should be at least 50% different for the future postition. Only then you would be able to use the experience gained with the same employer.

immilaw
09-14-2006, 03:21 PM
My current title is Software Developer and future title will be Business Analyst or Information system Analyst.

Gurus, help me here...!

Title does not matter. Duties matters. The new duties should be at least 50% different from the current duties.

ARUNRAMANATHAN
09-19-2006, 03:15 PM
Can anyone guess how long it would take for
EB3 PD = Jul 2004 to be current ?

Do you think it is worth going thru the pain of changing from EB3 to EB2 as I was orginally elible but my ----- up attorney did not do it .

Thanks
Arun

485Mbe4001
09-19-2006, 03:36 PM
unless we know the actual number of people stuck in EB2 & EB3, there is no way to guess how long it will take. if what people say is true and there are 50k desis in Eb3 and 20k in EB2, then it will take 20yrs for EB3 and 8yrs for EB2 to be current, take your pick...for ROW it might be a 2-3 year wait... again if there are so many people stuck in the queue how come IV has only 5k members...i have emailed close to a 80 people i knew, regarding IV and i have found only 7 people stuck in retrogression from my batch (PD 2002) who have all become members...


Can anyone guess how long it would take for
EB3 PD = Jul 2004 to be current ?

Do you think it is worth going thru the pain of changing from EB3 to EB2 as I was orginally elible but my ----- up attorney did not do it .

Thanks
Arun

arnet
09-19-2006, 03:37 PM
(just a guess) In October 2007, if SKIL bill passed. (Not real predictions, but being positive)

Disclaimer: I'm not an immgration attroney, so please check with one as laws/procedures changing constantly.....

Can anyone guess how long it would take for
EB3 PD = Jul 2004 to be current ?

Do you think it is worth going thru the pain of changing from EB3 to EB2 as I was orginally elible but my ----- up attorney did not do it .

Thanks
Arun

CADude
09-21-2006, 04:06 PM
Keep it up:)
(just a guess) In October 2007, if SKIL bill passed. (Not real predictions, but being positive)

Disclaimer: I'm not an immgration attroney, so please check with one as laws/procedures changing constantly.....

dan19
09-27-2006, 02:24 PM
Looks like EB3 filing was even (there wasn't much fluctuation), unlike EB2!

whoever
11-14-2006, 11:33 AM
Hey

any new members please participate in eb3 india poll. maybe someone of us may want to start a new poll thread with options -- members with eb3 india priority date prior to May1, 2001 and those with eb3 india priority date past May 1, 2001.

godbless
11-14-2006, 12:26 PM
:(
My PD is April 2002 under EB3-India. My I-140 is approved and I-485 is under process. I have EAD and Advance Parole. Would it be good and is it possible to file a new labor cert petition under EB2?

Any Idea please?

arnet
11-14-2006, 01:50 PM
nt sure. even EB2 retrogress for india but it depends on the PD....if skill/cir bill passes by summer07 (apr-may), you will have big chance of getting GC by sep07. if not, EB2 might help but depends on how long it takes to convert and depends on how complicated the process involved in doing that..the only way out of this retrogression is our support to IV to get pass this bill by summer 07.

Disclaimer: I'm not an immigration attroney, so please consult one for your situations as laws/procedures are changing often.

:(
My PD is April 2002 under EB3-India. My I-140 is approved and I-485 is under process. I have EAD and Advance Parole. Would it be good and is it possible to file a new labor cert petition under EB2?

Any Idea please?

kanvenk
11-14-2006, 05:27 PM
:confused:

Only 262 people took the poll so far, what happened to all the IV Members, please poll.

Thanks.

Jimi_Hendrix
12-12-2006, 02:04 PM
Please add to the poll.

harsh
12-12-2006, 03:15 PM
There can't be just 295 people who are EB3 on IV. There surely are more people who are stuck in retro in EB3. So please vote so that we can get a better picture.

varshadas
12-12-2006, 03:24 PM
My guess is since a lot of companies had stopped filing between 2001 and 2002, there should not be too many green card applications in general during that time period. Also, from the current bulletin, it seems that EB3 has moved beyond April which is where the maximum applications were. Also, I think a lot of Eb2 applications got filed. I remember my lawyer mentioning sometime in Oct 2002, that EB3 was going faster than EB2. I have been waiting too for the last 4 years in the EB3 category out of which I spent 3.5 in labor and 25 days in 140 and I am paying out-of-state tution fees in Rutgers for my MBA which is double the usual fee just because I don't have a green card. I think people who have PD's in the 2002 should not switch unless they retain their PD's. Anyhow all this is speculation. Unless some bill gets passed, we are not going to see relief anytime soon.

My 2 cents.

Varsha

whoever
12-13-2006, 10:41 AM
Bumping up thread.

kanvenk
12-13-2006, 10:57 AM
I guess, our Admins can move this thread to the Front page like a head line news or something similar, so that, every body can see this all the time. By doing so, we might get more poll.
Just my idea!

Thanks.

sunnysharma
12-13-2006, 12:41 PM
Eb3 2003

whoever
12-13-2006, 03:43 PM
It seems to me like there are more EB2 than EB3 after 2004.

rag_1970
12-13-2006, 03:50 PM
EB3 2004 december

mirage
12-13-2006, 04:02 PM
The more the evil called 'Labor Subsitution' is alive, the more grief we are gonna get. Especially EB-3's. BEC's are chruning out labors, I'm sure 50-60 % of the benificiaries have moved on. But there approved Labors are being sold openly. I'm guessing there are atleast 30-40K EB3 India in 2001-2003. You can Imagine How any years it'll take for the dates to cross 2003 Dec. My calc is roughly
For Indian citizens 3000 EB3 numbers available every year.
statistics says average 2.5 visas are used by each benificiary family. Conidering that if Congress doesn't change anything(Doesn't release any new Green Card numbers and make not change whatsoever) I am guessing it should take 25-30 years for date to become current for an EB3 guy with PD Jan'2004

Gravitation
12-13-2006, 04:05 PM
Once RoW-EB3 is current, its numbers will flow into India-EB3, hopefuly.

The more the evil called 'Labor Subsitution' is alive, the more grief we are gonna get. Especially EB-3's. BEC's are chruning out labors, I'm sure 50-60 % of the benificiaries have moved on. But there approved Labors are being sold openly. I'm guessing there are atleast 30-40K EB3 India in 2001-2003. You can Imagine How any years it'll take for the dates to cross 2003 Dec. My calc is roughly
For Indian citizens 3000 EB3 numbers available every year.
statistics says average 2.5 visas are used by each benificiary family. Conidering that if Congress doesn't change anything(Doesn't release any new Green Card numbers and make not change whatsoever) I am guessing it should take 25-30 years for date to become current for an EB3 guy with PD Jan'2004

mirage
12-13-2006, 04:13 PM
I don't think that will ever happen. Again what I am saying based on unfortunate assumption that congress keep the status quo.
Once RoW-EB3 is current, its numbers will flow into India-EB3, hopefuly.

whoever
01-04-2007, 07:11 PM
new members vote here.

vkotval
01-04-2007, 08:19 PM
EB3 April 2003

whoever
02-06-2007, 01:26 PM
new members vote here. just curious if there are new members.

parveen
02-06-2007, 01:33 PM
hi
Iam EB3 Indian PD 07/2002

krishna.ahd
02-06-2007, 03:35 PM
PD - EB3 Apr-01 - India

sledge_hammer
02-07-2007, 12:27 PM
Since EB3 India is retrogressed and is expected to remain retrogressed for a long time, it would be useful to see what the priority dates distribution is. This will give us an idea how many applications are with USCIS.

Please vote for this poll only if you are EB3 India. There will be a separate poll for EB2.

Where is the poll for EB2 that you have mentioned?

immigc06
02-07-2007, 12:41 PM
Eb3 2003

krishna.ahd
02-07-2007, 01:23 PM
We have only 446 members with PD ??
All others are without PD yet ??

Just wondering

whoever
02-07-2007, 01:30 PM
42 more EB3 India participated in the poll today. I am sure there are many more who havent taken the poll.

prashantkh
02-07-2007, 03:35 PM
May 2004 EB3 India

nraja
02-07-2007, 04:43 PM
EB3 in Jan 2004.

godbless
02-07-2007, 04:48 PM
eb3 India April 2002

factoryman
02-07-2007, 04:49 PM
.. and quit day dreaming.

Go here (http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/109search.html), search for 'To make unused EB3 visas available to bring nurses to the United States through Department of State procedures' , which law makers were instrumental in inserting provisions to benefit Sch.A workers and then go to this page (http://capwiz.com/aila2/home/), put in your Zip Code. Act now and let's write to your law makers. Be brief. Say you are a productive tax paying worker, or something like that. Act in your individual capacity. I did. For 45236.

Do you know, how a strong, financially huge group had already written to these congressmen (http://www.coalitiononhealthcarestaffing.org/lame%20duck%20letter%20lables%20-%20house%20of%20reps.pdf) and these senators (http://www.coalitiononhealthcarestaffing.org/lame%20duck%20letter%20lables%20-%20senate.pdf)for RECAPTURE of 90,000 unused visas, AGAIN for Sch. A workers.

485Mbe4001
02-07-2007, 04:55 PM
nice post.
look at the people/groups supporting their cause http://www.coalitiononhealthcarestaffing.org/members.htm
and look at who is supporting us.
that site is interesting no forums, no discussions on the site, just 'paisa feko, tamasha dekho' (loosely translated...pay money and watch the show)

.. and quit day dreaming.

Go here (http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/109search.html), search for 'To make unused EB3 visas available to bring nurses to the United States through Department of State procedures' , which law makers were instrumental in inserting provisions to benefit Sch.A workers and then go to this page (http://capwiz.com/aila2/home/), put in your Zip Code. Act now and let's write to your law makers. Be brief. Say you are a productive tax paying worker, or something like that. Act in your individual capacity. I did. For 45236.

Do you know, how a strong, financially huge group had already written to these congressmen (http://www.coalitiononhealthcarestaffing.org/lame%20duck%20letter%20lables%20-%20house%20of%20reps.pdf) and these senators (http://www.coalitiononhealthcarestaffing.org/lame%20duck%20letter%20lables%20-%20senate.pdf)for RECAPTURE of 90,000 unused visas, AGAIN for Sch. A workers.

whoever
02-07-2007, 05:47 PM
can someone draft a template like the nurses letter to congress for us with subject "Please provider retrogression relief for Employment Based Immigrants." and the body of the letter with the provisions and proposals including "recapture of unused visas". I feel the nurses will deplete our unused visas by recapturing unused ones several times and we may not have that option anymore.

factoryman
02-07-2007, 05:55 PM
we should not do that. I appreciate your enthusiasm.
Instead, write a simple hand written letter.
1. State your postion - 'you disapprove and are against total appropriation of ALL unused visas' when a huge number of skilled workers from the bio-tech, hi-tech and research inistitutes are waiting since 2001,
2. Demand and ask what is the senator/congressman's position on giving exclusive retrogression relief to only one section of the affected people, as was done in 2005.
3. Personalize in addressing and address, mail it , fax it.

Let's keep away from the templates.


can someone draft a template like the nurses letter to congress for us with subject "Please provider retrogression relief for Employment Based Immigrants." and the body of the letter with the provisions and proposals including "recapture of unused visas". I feel the nurses will deplete our unused visas by recapturing unused ones several times and we may not have that option anymore.

whoever
02-07-2007, 06:02 PM
a statement or 2 that would get into and stick in their heads after repeatedly seeing similar emails will do a "head on -- apply directly to your forehead" effect/magic. I think it may help. Give out some pointers, rest can be personalized.

purplehazea
05-14-2007, 04:34 PM
bump

WithoutGCAmigo
05-14-2007, 04:40 PM
bump bumping

sledge_hammer
06-01-2007, 05:57 PM
New members please take this pole