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hcard
05-02-2008, 09:43 AM
House Immigration Subcommittee Chair Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) and Former House Judiciary Committee Chair James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) have co-sponsored HR 5882, a bill that would recapture wasted green cards for the past 15 years. The bill also provides for the automatic recapturing of unused numbers in the future. The bill is a great first start to dealing with the inadequate number of green cards for skilled and professional workers in the US. The fact that James Sensenbrenner, long associated with restrictionist immigration bills, is a co-sponsor is an indication the bill has broad support.


http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2008/05/house-considers.html

Dipika
05-02-2008, 10:40 AM
House Immigration Subcommittee Chair Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) and Former House Judiciary Committee Chair James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) have co-sponsored HR 5882, a bill that would recapture wasted green cards for the past 15 years. The bill also provides for the automatic recapturing of unused numbers in the future. The bill is a great first start to dealing with the inadequate number of green cards for skilled and professional workers in the US. The fact that James Sensenbrenner, long associated with restrictionist immigration bills, is a co-sponsor is an indication the bill has broad support.


http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2008/05/house-considers.html

Finally we are getting fruits of our efforts. Thanks IV! keep it up :)

r2i2009
05-02-2008, 11:28 AM
Good news...
Let us get GC and move to the next step....Citizenship....another trap for 5 years....


Good move for Lawyers...more money....Hurrah!!!!

munnu77
05-02-2008, 11:59 AM
one more news:rolleyes:..one more bill...:cool:one more thread
5882, 5585, 5655, 0256, 0155, 0000, 4561, 6442, 0014,............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .......................................

i have seen bills with all permutaion and combination of four digit numbers in the last four years, since i have joined isnamerica.org and then IV

uma78
05-02-2008, 12:01 PM
guys,

does this mean the bill is passed? what is the next step?

Thank you in advance.

Uma

h1techSlave
05-02-2008, 12:01 PM
Is it the second stage in the process for the bill to become a law?
House Immigration Subcommittee Chair Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) and Former House Judiciary Committee Chair James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) have co-sponsored HR 5882, a bill that would recapture wasted green cards for the past 15 years. The bill also provides for the automatic recapturing of unused numbers in the future. The bill is a great first start to dealing with the inadequate number of green cards for skilled and professional workers in the US. The fact that James Sensenbrenner, long associated with restrictionist immigration bills, is a co-sponsor is an indication the bill has broad support.


http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2008/05/house-considers.html

uma78
05-02-2008, 12:03 PM
does anyone know the links to explaining process from here on to this bill


thank you

Uma

ak_2006
05-02-2008, 12:10 PM
If HR 5921 (Country Quota elimination) and HR 5882 (Visa # recapture) through....It would be good to many (almost all) of our IV members/GC aspirants.

maverick_joe
05-02-2008, 12:46 PM
I hope so too...can someone explain the process please?
step 1. Discuss @ the committe of the judiciary.
step 2.
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step n.Sign into law?

Is it the second stage in the process for the bill to become a law?

jonty_11
05-02-2008, 12:53 PM
In this world of cyber info and GOOGLE...these questions can be answered by self...

Just google -

Here is the link for the still lazy folks -http://thomas.loc.gov/home/laws_made.html

hcard
05-02-2008, 12:55 PM
Sponsor: Rep. Zoe Lofgren [D-CA]show cosponsors (1)
Cosponsors [as of 2008-04-24]
Rep. James Sensenbrenner [R-WI]

Status: Introduced Apr 23, 2008
Scheduled for Debate -
Voted on in House -
Voted on in Senate -
Signed by President -

Last Action: Apr 23, 2008: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-5882

jonty_11
05-02-2008, 12:56 PM
In this world of cyber info and GOOGLE...these questions can be answered by self...

Just google -

Here is the link for the still lazy folks -http://thomas.loc.gov/home/laws_made.html
and more -
http://www.votesmart.org/resource_govt101_02.php

meridiani.planum
05-02-2008, 12:58 PM
does anyone know the links to explaining process from here on to this bill


thank you

Uma

house needs to pass it, then give it to senate. It needs to pass there also (last year the Comprehensive Immigration Reform started in Senate and died right there). If whats passed in senate is not exactly same as what was passed in the house (ie. they add/delete stuff as its debated) then it goes to a committee where they reconcile everything. Once that is ok, it goes to the president for voting. the president can sign it or veto it and ask for changes. For something like this he will typically sign. So its upto the house and the senate... we are in the very first stage right now and there is a long way to go....

jonty_11
05-02-2008, 01:08 PM
house needs to pass it, then give it to senate. It needs to pass there also (last year the Comprehensive Immigration Reform started in Senate and died right there). If whats passed in senate is not exactly same as what was passed in the house (ie. they add/delete stuff as its debated) then it goes to a committee where they reconcile everything. Once that is ok, it goes to the president for voting. the president can sign it or veto it and ask for changes. For something like this he will typically sign. So its upto the house and the senate... we are in the very first stage right now and there is a long way to go....
And in my opinion, due to great lobbying by IV and other proponents, these Bills are being considered in the House..at least introduced. While I think it is very very difficult for these to see any traction atall (This is an election yr - c'mon), it will serve as a great eyeopener and awareness campaign for the law makers, and will bear fruit once teh election dust settles. The only issue then is that we will again by tagged together with the Undocumented Folks...so there a catch 22.

InTheMoment
05-02-2008, 01:09 PM
Well, if this get's Bush's autograph on it, we will see significant forward movements (possibly current) in the visa bulletins starting only in October this year (The effective date of enactment for this bill).

add78
05-02-2008, 01:20 PM
does anyone know the links to explaining process from here on to this bill


thank you

Uma
A bill's journey into a law is often times a long and arduous one.
United States Congress is made up of two chambers, A House of Representatives and a Senate.

The House is made up of Representatives elected by a small (local) group of citizens belonging to small geographic area within each state, while The Senate is made up of Senators elected by ALL the people of that state. The reason for this system was that the Founding Fathers wanted any piece of legislation be throughly examined, debated and represented by each small constituency as well as statewide representation.

A bill is introduced in the House or the Senate. It is then debated in that chamber (House or Senate) and after intense debate, comes up on the floor for voting. If it passes, it needs to be introduced and passed in the other chamber (House or Senate). Many times, the exact same bill may not be introduced in the other chamber, and therefore needs to come up before a joint reconciliation committee where a subset (sort of) bill is agreed upon. It then comes up again before both the chambers and if passed goes to the President who can veto it if he/she wants. If the President signs it, then it becomes a law with the effective date mentioned in the bill. If the President vetoes a bill, it goes back to both chambers and if passed the second time by two thirds of majority in each chamber then it becomes a law overriding President's veto.

Its a long journey, this is just the first step. Hold your horses and contribute towards our lobbying efforts.

Hope this helps.

maverick_joe
05-02-2008, 01:22 PM
thanks meridiani.planum, that saved me a lot of googling!

house needs to pass it, then give it to senate. It needs to pass there also (last year the Comprehensive Immigration Reform started in Senate and died right there). If whats passed in senate is not exactly same as what was passed in the house (ie. they add/delete stuff as its debated) then it goes to a committee where they reconcile everything. Once that is ok, it goes to the president for voting. the president can sign it or veto it and ask for changes. For something like this he will typically sign. So its upto the house and the senate... we are in the very first stage right now and there is a long way to go....

uma78
05-02-2008, 01:30 PM
it is good to know the law and how to it works.

Uma

jchan
05-02-2008, 01:59 PM
I am confused. Everyone is talking as if this is some progress. But what is the difference between this news and the one IV has on headline? Haven't we already known that the bill is introduced?

gc_on_demand
05-02-2008, 02:46 PM
I am confused. Everyone is talking as if this is some progress. But what is the difference between this news and the one IV has on headline? Haven't we already known that the bill is introduced?

Hello Jchan

Yeah bill is introduce and now we have to keep patience for its forward movement. Please contributes to IV . Did you email to your local lawmakers ? if not do so.. if you did encourage your frs..

Thanks

mhathi
05-02-2008, 02:47 PM
I am confused. Everyone is talking as if this is some progress. But what is the difference between this news and the one IV has on headline? Haven't we already known that the bill is introduced?

I had the same question when I first read this... but did not bother to reply... Immigration-law has reported this news as breaking news but this was already known to IV since before the bills were introduced.

rongha_2000
05-02-2008, 02:52 PM
I agree,

Admins please close this duplicate thread. There is already a thread where IV Admins announced it first.