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slammer
07-11-2008, 07:27 AM
Here's the link

http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html


No good news for EB 3 WW ?!

Rita

josecuervo
07-11-2008, 08:00 AM
Here's the link

http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html


No good news for EB 3 WW ?!

Rita

I couldn't believe this. Wonderful news. Thanks

slammer
07-11-2008, 08:09 AM
I couldn't believe this. Wonderful news. Thanks

Yes, you're right, for you it's really great news ! Congratulations !!!

Rita

rajeshalex
07-11-2008, 08:14 AM
I am posting the whole thing here.

Category India Most Other Countries
F1 15 March 2002 15 March 2002
FX Unavailable Unavailable
F2A 1 October 2003 1 October 2003
F2B 1 November 1999 1 November 1999
F3 8 June 2000 8 June 2000
F4 22 February 1997 8 September 1997
E1 Current Current
E2 1 June 2006 Current
E3 Unavailable Unavailable EX Unavailable Unavailable
EW Unavailable Unavailable
E4 Current Current
E4-Religious Current Current

Rajesh

tnite
07-11-2008, 08:18 AM
I couldn't believe this. Wonderful news. Thanks

But the downside to this is that most EB2 July filers have (or will be) been renewing their EAD's in August/Sepetember and this bulleting will not let USCIS give out 2 yr EAD's and instead hand out 1 yr ones.

Just because your PD is current dosnt mean that USCIS will process your apps right away. There are folks whose PD was current under July bulletin and their apps haven't been touched based on some anecdotal evidence here..
But the Eb3 news is not good.
just my 2 cents

mxh72c
07-11-2008, 08:26 AM
This bulletin does prove that very few labor certificaions were done in 2005, due to move to PERM.

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 08:47 AM
wooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo

slammer
07-11-2008, 08:57 AM
wooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo

I assume you like the new cutoff-dates ????

Rita ;)

santa123
07-11-2008, 08:58 AM
Does someone know by how many months EB2 has jumped??

rkm
07-11-2008, 09:01 AM
Very Good News for EB2-I.

tnite
07-11-2008, 09:02 AM
Does someone know by how many months EB2 has jumped??

little more than 2 yrs

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 09:06 AM
I assume you like the new cutoff-dates ????

Rita ;)
love it....but thats only 1/2 of the battle...the other half is making sure uscis adjudicates my petition in the month of aug

rockstart
07-11-2008, 09:07 AM
Is it really EB2 = 1 June 2006 . I cant beleive my eyes

reddymjm
07-11-2008, 09:09 AM
little more than 2 yrs

My guess is that they moved the dates so that any one missed the train in jul 2007 will be able to file 485 and/or add spouses to the existing applications. Looks like it will remain there for some time atleast, may be till the year end.

NJOY Eb2 guys.

govindk
07-11-2008, 09:15 AM
it is really a good news for EB2-I :)

vdlrao
07-11-2008, 09:16 AM
I have expected EB2 India would move Fast but I didnt expect it would move like Super Fast. Really good for EB2. But the thing infront of us now is to work for EB3 INDIA and EB3 ROW.

santa123
07-11-2008, 09:23 AM
Is this big jump for EB2 due to overflow from other categories? Is this as a result of awareness around visa wastage?

santa123
07-11-2008, 09:26 AM
Any movement for any EB is good news for all EB.:D
If EB2 cases are processed heavily till Oct 08, then the chances are high on significant movement for EB3 in Oct (jus a few months from now). For EB3-ers its time to prepare and hope for the best. Best wishes to all Eb2-ers who are current...

sushilup
07-11-2008, 09:28 AM
I agree with tnite

But the downside to this is that most EB2 July filers have (or will be) been renewing their EAD's in August/Sepetember and this bulleting will not let USCIS give out 2 yr EAD's and instead hand out 1 yr ones.

Just because your PD is current dosnt mean that USCIS will process your apps right away. There are folks whose PD was current under July bulletin and their apps haven't been touched based on some anecdotal evidence here..
But the Eb3 news is not good.
just my 2 cents

sheela
07-11-2008, 09:29 AM
Yes, you're right, for you it's really great news ! Congratulations !!!

Rita

Thanks, Rita:
You got us this nice news. EB2 was stuck at april 04 for long. We saw this speculative forward move. It is going to stay in 2006 for a while as fewer LC were issued in 05 I donot see it retrogressed in next fiscal year

rockstart
07-11-2008, 09:30 AM
I agree looks like CIS is getting its act together. but with such a big jump in dates. We will see random approvals like May 2006 before July 2004 etc.

Is this big jump for EB2 due to overflow from other categories? Is this as a result of awareness around visa wastage?

whitecollarslave
07-11-2008, 09:33 AM
Pause and take a moment to rejoice. Then turn all eyes to processing dates.

TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007

peace&joy
07-11-2008, 09:36 AM
Can't believe it either. Too good to be true!!!

sushilup
07-11-2008, 09:38 AM
Hello whitecollarslave,

There are Reciept date or Notice Date?

Thanx
Pause and take a moment to rejoice. Then turn all eyes to processing dates.

TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007

mpadapa
07-11-2008, 09:40 AM
Great news for EB2 folks.
If EB2-I moves to June 2006 then EB2 C will almost be in the same or better position. So June 2007 bulletin folks aka EB2-C (Jan 2006) will be the main beneficiary. EB2 I folks who are lucky with RD before the current processing dates (mid July) can expect surprise mails. Good luck

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 09:40 AM
ok..i am typically not a cheesy person.. but exteme situations require cheesy gestures

so here goes

ode to my green card (plagarized from lambi judaai from movie jannat)

Tere bin dil mera lage kahin na
Tere bin jaan meri jaye kahin na
Kitne zamane baad o rabba
Yaad tu aaya, yaad tu aaya

Aaaaa….aa..aaaaaaaa….

Khoya raha mein, saason mein apne
Aahat bhi teri, bhool gaya mein
Kitna jeeya hoon tanha raho hoon
Ishq tera bhool gaya hoon

---Translation
Tere bin dil mera lage kahin na - without you my heart is in nothing anymore
Tere bin jaan meri jaye kahin na - without you my life goes nowhere
Kitne zamane baad o rabba - after how many days, o god
Yaad tu aaya, yaad tu aaya - i remembered you, i remembered you

Aaaaa….aa..aaaaaaaa…. - Aaaaa….aa..aaaaaaaa….(no translation required)

Khoya raha mein, saason mein apne - I have been lost, just breathing
Aahat bhi teri, bhool gaya mein - your footsteps, i have forgotten
Kitna jeeya hoon tanha raho hoon - just been living, been so alone
Ishq tera bhool gaya hoon - that I have forgotten your love

lonedesi
07-11-2008, 09:49 AM
I congratulate everyone whoes PD becomes current beginning of next month. But be aware that all of this is no good until USCIS acts on it. USCIS has to match and increase their pace of processing I-140 & I-485s for people to benefit of this movement. There are thousands of people whose PD have been current since April of this year and still they see no movement on their cases. PD becoming current is just the first & crucial step in this long process, but now it all depends on how well USCIS responds by processing cases in FIFO manner.

alterego
07-11-2008, 09:49 AM
This is good news all around. It gives EB2 I an obvious benefit. However EB3 can take consolation in knowing that all EB2 is closer to C, and then spillover can start. Obviously EB3 ROW will get the spillover first, but then it will be EB3I. A visa recapture would be so great now.
Now perhaps RD matters if you are EB2 I.

This is just a hunch, however I think you will see a rash of EB2 India approval in the coming couple of months. I have seen a lot of LUDs and RFEs and the like on EB2I cased over the past month or two, and a lot of this seems as if they were pre-adjudicating, while in discussions to move the dates with the state dept.

A few lucky people from the July filers will get their green cards from this, but most may have to wait a while. They have not processed many of them.

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 09:52 AM
I congratulate everyone whoes PD becomes current beginning of next month. But be aware that all of this is no good until USCIS acts on it. USCIS has to match and increase their pace of processing I-140 & I-485s for people to benefit of this movement. There are thousands of people whose PD have been current since April of this year and still they see no movement on their cases. PD becoming current is just the first & crucial step in the this long process, but now it all depends on how well USCIS responds by processing cases in FIFO manner.
dude..dont rain on our parade...everyone knows the harsh realities.. i myself said earlier that only half the battle is won...but the least we deserve is one day of hope.

willwin
07-11-2008, 10:06 AM
dude..dont rain on our parade...everyone knows the harsh realities.. i myself said earlier that only half the battle is won...but the least we deserve is one day of hope.

Congrats EB2-I !!

I guess the intention of DOS was to enable Consular posts to approve as many EB2 cases as possible inorder to minimize VISA wastage. And also continue to enable USCIS to pick the low hanging fruits.

Otherwise, I dont think USCIS has cleared all pending cases with PD earlier than April 2004.

Yes, EB2 definitely deserves this moment and at the same time EB3 I does not deserve this 'coma' stage in their PD movement.

santa123
07-11-2008, 10:14 AM
A few lucky people from the July filers will get their green cards from this, but most may have to wait a while. They have not processed many of them.

If that is the case, why is there a big movement? I am assuming that the Jul 07 backlog has been significantly reduced and hence this big movement. Correct me if my assumption is wrong.

razis123
07-11-2008, 10:17 AM
Pause and take a moment to rejoice. Then turn all eyes to processing dates.

TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007

My online status shows
"On August 17, 2007, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS..........................."
My recepit date was however July 2nd 2007. Are they processing my application or they go by received date of 8/17?
can someone explain how this works?

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 10:19 AM
My online status shows
"On August 17, 2007, we received this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS..........................."
My recepit date was however July 2nd 2007. Are they processing my application or they go by received date of 8/17?
can someone explain how this works?
no one knows..if u call up the cust service ppl.. they will say we received it on aug 17th..so thats the RD..we know better...but doesnt get us anywhere

desi chala usa
07-11-2008, 10:22 AM
I know many people have their priority dates current since past few months but still they are waiting for I-485 approval. Hope this should not be scam to issue the EAD for only a year instead of two years.

Almost two years jump is unbelievable specially we know big numbers of Perms filed during 2005 and mid of 2006.

zerozerozeven
07-11-2008, 10:25 AM
PD - Jul 07
Any hopes for me in the Sep bulletin? hope they move it by another 14 to 15 months ...USCIS...pls...my wife badly needs an EAD to start working

santa123
07-11-2008, 10:26 AM
Just wondering...
How many people would benefit out of this big movement?
What estimated # of applications is USCIS expecting through this movement?
If the dates were current last year same time, how many ppl with PDs between 2004 and 2006 would have missed the bus last year? Dont think many wld have...
Excuse my ignorance if there is a basic mistake in my assumption

willwin
07-11-2008, 10:30 AM
If that is the case, why is there a big movement? I am assuming that the Jul 07 backlog has been significantly reduced and hence this big movement. Correct me if my assumption is wrong.

Yes, your assumption is wrong. The dates move when USCIS doesn't approve many cases ina month. That leaves DOS to believe that there are no enough demand and hence they move dates forward. but as I said, I am very positive that the movement is to facilitate CP to approve cases. I wont be surprised if they move EB2 further next month.

eb3retro
07-11-2008, 10:31 AM
congratulations to all EB2'ers and hoping that one day there will be this kind of good news for eb3 folks who have been waiting pretty long.

sheela
07-11-2008, 10:39 AM
Just wondering...
How many people would benefit out of this big movement?
What estimated # of applications is USCIS expecting through this movement?
If the dates were current last year same time, how many ppl with PDs between 2004 and 2006 would have missed the bus last year? Dont think many wld have...
Excuse my ignorance if there is a basic mistake in my assumption

If uscis works more efficiently, several thousand EB2 i may benefit.

Below is reproduced from uscis 7/07 explanation for last yr july fiasco. "60000 visa numbers available were made available" during the weekend of june/july 07.

during the past month have resulted in the use of almost 60,000 Employment numbers. As a result of this unexpected action it has been necessary to make immediate adjustments to several previously announced cut-off dates. All Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices have been notified of the following:
Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations in response to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation have been made available.

srini1976
07-11-2008, 10:44 AM
Congrats to all the IV EB2 members who will benefit from the Aug Visa Bulletin. I am so happy for them.

Will it move beyond June 2006 for EB2 India in September 2008 Bulletin?

soorigadu2003
07-11-2008, 10:46 AM
GREAT NEWS...
but why is USCIS website not showing Aug bulletin ?

Desichakit
07-11-2008, 10:51 AM
This appears to be half the battle won for EB2 as it has to translated into actual approval. Also we must be mindfull of EB3 retrogression and must not lose sight of it in this Euphoria.

EB2-I-Jan08

vvicky72
07-11-2008, 11:07 AM
I am hoping this is not a typo from the mumbai consulate and USCIS visa bulletin will reflect the same.

My priority date is April 06. Does this mean that there is a chance for me to get the GC now?

How much time does it usually take for USCIS to approve the application after the priority date is current in the bulletin?

And lastly, what are the chances of USCIS staying on this date for EB2-I and not retrogressing it back to some old date (after it issues 1 yr EAD to everyone !!)?

coolvigo
07-11-2008, 11:12 AM
I am hoping this is not a typo from the mumbai consulate and USCIS visa bulletin will reflect the same.

My priority date is April 06. Does this mean that there is a chance for me to get the GC now?

How much time does it usually take for USCIS to approve the application after the priority date is current in the bulletin?

And lastly, what are the chances of USCIS staying on this date for EB2-I and not retrogressing it back to some old date (after it issues 1 yr EAD to everyone !!)?


I have the same fear....so I want to see this on USCIS website before I start enjoying the mood! But if it is true.....I am very very happy !

leoindiano
07-11-2008, 11:15 AM
Do we know if all EB2's before April 2004 got their GC's?

kingkon_2000
07-11-2008, 11:22 AM
My guess is that they moved the dates so that any one missed the train in jul 2007 will be able to file 485 and/or add spouses to the existing applications. Looks like it will remain there for some time atleast, may be till the year end.

NJOY Eb2 guys.

Now the Jul/07 filers will not receive 2 yrs EAD since the PD is current and there is very less chance that they will receive GC. So USCIS plays a good game.. they will have more chance next year to milk money from Jul07 filers as they will have to renew EAD/AP again next year...

NolaIndian32
07-11-2008, 11:37 AM
I second yabadaba's sentiment! :):):):):):):):):):):):)


wooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo

flthere
07-11-2008, 11:39 AM
Well, everyone is going to pay just one time for EAD from now on ... but sad thing is they need to apply for EAD again in a year ... at that time it's gonna be free applying :D

conchshell
07-11-2008, 11:39 AM
My heart jumps with joy, but my brain still caution the heart to wait for the official visa bulletin at DOS/USCIS website. USCIS has a trend of "correcting" the visa bulletin. Nevertheless, if the dates are really what they are published at Mumbai site, its a time for us to be happy.

EB2 looks promising, but in this moment of joy lets not forget our friends in EB3 category. Anyone whose priority date is current, please don't just move forward with your joy, and continue to support IV and our initiatives to help legal immigrants. We have suffered so much because the folks who came prior to us never bothered to support legal immigration, once they got their their GC. Please remember that after GC/Citizenship, our status in this nation as a minority group depends on how active we are socially/politically.

USDream2Dust
07-11-2008, 11:41 AM
First new Iphone and now this news. I am still in Sep 06 but this type of things keeps the hope alive :).

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

milind70
07-11-2008, 11:41 AM
GREAT NEWS...
but why is USCIS website not showing Aug bulletin ?

The reason for this is that Mumbai is 12 hours ahead in time of US. Please wait till today evening , the same will be reflected on DOS website. We have seen before that the VB bulletin cut off dates released earlier on US consulate websites in India than on the DOS websites in US

conchshell
07-11-2008, 11:46 AM
I have expected EB2 India would move Fast but I didnt expect it would move like Super Fast. Really good for EB2. But the thing infront of us now is to work for EB3 INDIA and EB3 ROW.

vdlrao, I was always impressed with your calculation that you presented before July Visa bulletin, however it seems to good to be true. But it seems your estimation and prediction were on a correct track.:)

eb3_nepa
07-11-2008, 11:50 AM
Not to put any dampers here, but this is extremely frustrating for the EB3 India folks. I mean how freakin long do WE have to wait before we get our turn!

realizeit
07-11-2008, 11:51 AM
These two could be the real reasons why they changed the dates to 2006-June-01.

1. USCIS want to utilize all available EB2 and EB1-Balance GC numbers before 2008-0ct-01. So, they moved the EB2 dates in such a way that there is enough room for obtaining approvable and valid EB2 applications.

2. They could just move the dates to somewhere at the end of 2005 instead of 2006-June to achieve the same result. But, they did this specifically to include some relief to EB2 CHINA folks as well. EB2 China backlog starts from the beginning of 2006.

3. This reason is from my imagination: USCIS is a govt organization..You know. I heard stories that corruption is there everywhere in a GOVT system. Some influential applicant needs to get the benefit and they moved the dates to June-2006. :)) HEY THIS IS NOT TRUE :)

Oh by the way, this won't last long. The month September could see an "UNAVAILABLE" EB2 or "2004-APRIL" EB2.


My heart jumps with joy, but my brain still caution the heart to wait for the official visa bulletin at DOS/USCIS website. USCIS has a trend of "correcting" the visa bulletin. Nevertheless, if the dates are really what they are published at Mumbai site, its a time for us to be happy.

EB2 looks promising, but in this moment of joy lets not forget our friends in EB3 category. Anyone whose priority date is current, please don't just move forward with your joy, and continue to support IV and our initiatives to help legal immigrants. We have suffered so much because the folks who came prior to us never bothered to support legal immigration, once they got their their GC. Please remember that after GC/Citizenship, your status in this nation depends on how active you are socially/politically.

sundeep14
07-11-2008, 11:51 AM
i dont get it..why r folks so happy...i agree its current till 06..but that does not mean that people are goin to get green cards...it just means that till 06 whoever had not got a chance to apply for 485 can now apply...congrats to them...but i beleive there are not many people like that..

prioritydate
07-11-2008, 11:51 AM
I was hoping to get a 2 year EAD, but I am wrong now. Make the VB current, issue 1 year EAD and then retrogress. What a brain!!!

gclabor07
07-11-2008, 11:52 AM
Folks,

Congrats to all those who are current. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for my chance to file I-485. It would really benefit the rest of us who missed the last July 07 boat.

StuckInTheMuck
07-11-2008, 11:53 AM
First new Iphone and now this news. I am still in Sep 06 but this type of things keeps the hope alive :).


Maybe you should now change your handle to USDream2DustBack2Dream :)

sparky_jones
07-11-2008, 11:53 AM
Not to put any dampers here, but this is extremely frustrating for the EB3 India folks. I mean how freakin long do WE have to wait before we get our turn!
I am EB3-India with PD of August 2003. I am anticipating at least another 2 years. Any forward movement in any category is good news to me.

leoindiano
07-11-2008, 11:56 AM
Just did some stats on , did only for texas service center

It appears that Notice Date is immaterial. As long as your PD is current.
So, you dont need to worry, if your notice date is Oct 2007 and TX processing date still shows July 17th. They are approving the cases as long as your PD is current in PD order which makes sense.

I see a case with Nov 12 2007 ND and PD of dec 2002 is approved.

Dont expect any LUD's either, Only suprise email matters....welcome to america, card production ordered.....:D

eb3_nepa
07-11-2008, 11:56 AM
I am EB3-India with PD of August 2003. I am anticipating at least another 2 years. Any forward movement in any category is good news to me.

Yeah I am EB3 India June 2003 too. Not sure when our turn will come, IF at all the way things are crawling here. Sometimes I really feel there is no justice to some of the IV members on here. I wonder which is worse, the corruption in India or the bureaucracy in the USA. Atleast in India, if I would have bribed the official, I would have had the documents by now.

girishvar
07-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Priority Date to 2006 to me is like a flashlight in the middle of the tunnel. Whether battery will run out (retrogression again) before USCIS acting on my file is a miilion $ question.

Let us hope for the best.

I pray for EB3 brothers and sisters and they realizing so called american hope sooner with CIR.

eb3_nepa
07-11-2008, 12:04 PM
I pray for EB3 brothers and sisters and they realizing so called american hope sooner with CIR.

CIR is the Worst thing on the planet for the legals.

kartikiran
07-11-2008, 12:07 PM
Not to put any dampers here, but this is extremely frustrating for the EB3 India folks. I mean how freakin long do WE have to wait before we get our turn!

I agree with eb3_nepa...waiting with EB3 PD March 2002..original labor certification...people who applied after me getting citizenships...it is frustrating.

psvk
07-11-2008, 12:08 PM
Not to put any dampers here, but this is extremely frustrating for the EB3 India folks. I mean how freakin long do WE have to wait before we get our turn!

Nothing against EB2 or other, at least let them enjoy the freedom.

It is really frustrating, because of the mistake by the attorney or stupid company policy etc, people like us with pd 2001 etc waiting on EB3. In my case I had PG with 7 yrs exp when filing, but for the stupid lawyer and company policy. putting aside the original classification of categories, given the present scenario, Not sure what way EB2 is better than EB3

GCapplicant
07-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Will this for any reason impact the bills...to recapture visas.Just to prove its moving.

I am EB3 I -just frustrated...God knows how do things work out .

EB3 I is not bad we are also qualified.Why the heck its not moving?

mps
07-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Pause and take a moment to rejoice. Then turn all eyes to processing dates.

TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007

That would mean July 2 filers EB2 are waiting only for visa number (assuming USCIS is processing cases strictly on RD basis) - wooooooooooooow.

kaisersose
07-11-2008, 12:13 PM
FYI,

Priority dates are decided by the Department of State and EAD renewal periods are decided by USCIS. They are two different organizations.

So this is not a scam to deny people 2 year EADs.

willwin
07-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Yeah I am EB3 India June 2003 too. Not sure when our turn will come, IF at all the way things are crawling here. Sometimes I really feel there is no justice to some of the IV members on here. I wonder which is worse, the corruption in India or the bureaucracy in the USA. Atleast in India, if I would have bribed the official, I would have had the documents by now.

eb3_nepa!

People here think EB3 deserves to be waiting (in the given scenario and only EB2 move forward). After all we are not EB2!

2003? another 2-3 years easily. I am only 2005. So may be another 5 years for me. Well, what the heck

hpandey
07-11-2008, 12:15 PM
CIR is the Worst thing on the planet for the legals.

Girish - CIR was meant to help the illegals not us folk. I hope we never have to see CIR again . It would just mean millions more ahead in line whereas we who have been waiting for years will be sent to the dustbin.:mad:

willwin
07-11-2008, 12:15 PM
Priority Date to 2006 to me is like a flashlight in the middle of the tunnel. Whether battery will run out (retrogression again) before USCIS acting on my file is a miilion $ question.

Let us hope for the best.

I pray for EB3 brothers and sisters and they realizing so called american hope sooner with CIR.

Is CIR the only way for EB3 to get GC? Real sad! As good as saying that all EB3 applications are going to be null and void.

milind70
07-11-2008, 12:15 PM
Just did some stats on , did only for texas service center

It appears that Notice Date is immaterial. As long as your PD is current.
So, you dont need to worry, if your notice date is Oct 2007 and TX processing date still shows July 17th. They are approving the cases as long as your PD is current in PD order which makes sense.

I see a case with Nov 12 2007 ND and PD of dec 2002 is approved.

Dont expect any LUD's either, Only suprise email matters....welcome to america, card production ordered.....:D

Yes that seems to be the case , I had a friend who could have applied in June 2007 but due to some documents issue applied in Aug 2007 under the July adjusted bulletin, his notice date was very recent but he suddenly got his GC(his PD was current). But he said no LUDs or anyhting of that sort just recieved the magical email one fine day. His case was at Texas Service Center. His PD was Oct 2002 EB2.

willwin
07-11-2008, 12:18 PM
Nothing against EB2 or other, at least let them enjoy the freedom.

It is really frustrating, because of the mistake by the attorney or stupid company policy etc, people like us with pd 2001 etc waiting on EB3. In my case I had PG with 7 yrs exp when filing, but for the stupid lawyer and company policy. putting aside the original classification of categories, given the present scenario, Not sure what way EB2 is better than EB3

Paskal is watching you! EB3 deserves this. I am EB3 India 2005, in for a looooong wait for another decade? May be.

And, BTW is somebody hijacking this thread?!?! Not me, Paskal!

girishvar
07-11-2008, 12:18 PM
Girish - CIR was meant to help the illegals not us folk. I hope we never have to see CIR again . It would just mean millions more ahead in line whereas we who have been waiting for years will be sent to the dustbin.:mad:

What I try to meant for legal relief from congress. I am really concerned about eb3 and many of my close friends are in the same boat.

ski_dude12
07-11-2008, 12:20 PM
Welcome news for EB2. For EB3.. hang in there folks... things will happen soon for you all.

mps
07-11-2008, 12:22 PM
EB2 benefited from EB1 spillover once this bucket is full - I'm sure EB3 will move a great deal.

chantu
07-11-2008, 12:27 PM
I have one question?

I have case id for ETA form. I could see my details by downloading MDB file from flcdatacenter. How can I know whether I am EB2 or EB3? I do not want to ask my employer.

indyanguy
07-11-2008, 12:30 PM
No good news for me. I am EB3-I.

By the way, if the PD is current for those who have already applied for I-485, does it mean they are guaranteed to get their GCs processed? What if EB2-I becomes U in September? Just wanted to know the importance of a PD becoming current for folks who have already applied for 485.

Thanks

paskal
07-11-2008, 12:33 PM
nothing will happen without extra GC numbers. we must fight for recapture and exemption. this move seems much too incredible to me. there are a few spillover numbers and a very large number of people waiting from 04-06. ther is no way these people are all (or even most) getting a GC in the short term.
we will end up seeing some random approvals and a lot of heartburn from many others. I truly wonder what is going on.....

pappu
07-11-2008, 12:34 PM
EB2 benefited from EB1 spillover once this bucket is full - I'm sure EB3 will move a great deal.

Another reason could also be EB2ROW spillover.

It is unfortunate for EB3 folks that their dates are not moving.

Let us wait for the official DOS bulletin and see what reasons they give to advance the dates significantly. Else IV can contact DOS to know how these projections were made.

karanp25
07-11-2008, 12:36 PM
I can understand the excitement. I am also in EB2 2005 PD. But the fact is that, this seems like a temporary movement only...i don't think dates can stay at 2006, going by simple math.

PPl can give me those red marks, but i think dates will retrogress again by Oct.

leoindiano
07-11-2008, 12:39 PM
karan,

thats true, You will not get red marks. Coz, everybody agrees with that. It is just some good news and hope for EB2. Otherwise, people will be left with no option but to move back to their home country's in current markets.

vdlrao
07-11-2008, 12:41 PM
I can understand the excitement. I am also in EB2 2005 PD. But the fact is that, this seems like a temporary movement only...i don't think dates can stay at 2006, going by simple math.

PPl can give me those red marks, but i think dates will retrogress again by Oct.

Nope I dont agree. Even though theres any retrogression it would be very mild.

chantu
07-11-2008, 12:44 PM
I have one question?

I have case id for ETA form. I could see my details by downloading MDB file from flcdatacenter. How can I know whether I am EB2 or EB3? I do not want to ask my employer.

Can somebody please answer?

kaisersose
07-11-2008, 12:44 PM
In my opinion, the most likely reason why EB2 India dates have been advanced to June 2006 is to help consular posts. CP filers can get their interviews now.

eb3_nepa
07-11-2008, 12:44 PM
I dont get it for EB3 India. First they said once we get over the APR 01 hump we should be move quicker. Well guess what we DID get over that hump. Why the heck arent the dates moving at all for us?

gc_kaavaali
07-11-2008, 12:45 PM
I don't think so. Eventhough they make U in september bulletin. They have to move dates in October bulletin because of new visa numbers.

I can understand the excitement. I am also in EB2 2005 PD. But the fact is that, this seems like a temporary movement only...i don't think dates can stay at 2006, going by simple math.

PPl can give me those red marks, but i think dates will retrogress again by Oct.

paskal
07-11-2008, 12:49 PM
I dont get it for EB3 India. First they said once we get over the APR 01 hump we should be move quicker. Well guess what we DID get over that hump. Why the heck arent the dates moving at all for us?

this is surprising. really the dates should move- at least some. i keep thinking with each bulletin that EB3 will surely move now but it just has not happened. at this moment of course they have simply made it U. i wonder though if the dates will move when the october quota comes in.

saileshdude
07-11-2008, 12:51 PM
I am not sure if I should be happy or sad with this news. I was laidoff recently and had applied for I-485 on July 17,2007 i.e. current processing date for TSC. Also with this bulletin I will be current (EB2 2006). I have not found a new job yet and my company has told me that they will be revoking my I-140 after 30 days. My company lawyers are not advising me much citing conflict of interest.

What options do I have? Will sending a new G-28 form at this time raise any issues that I do not have job with original employer as my PD is current and it is quite possible that my case maybe adjudicated. In the meantime if I do not sent new G-28 form I am not sure how much my company attorney will co-operate

eb3retro
07-11-2008, 12:53 PM
this is surprising. really the dates should move- at least some. i keep thinking with each bulletin that EB3 will surely move now but it just has not happened. at this moment of course they have simply made it U. i wonder though if the dates will move when the october quota comes in.


is there any way, any way in this whole freakin process, that we can get some sort of explanation for eb3-I first hand from DOS or USCIS? i mean there needs to be some justification for the acts? i know there are laws to interpret these dates, but how do we know that those laws are interpreted correctly by DOS or USCIS? though i am in eb3-I , jan 2003, i personally know atleast 3 folks who are in 2002 - eb3-I. Can we get some sort of guidance here.

nixstor
07-11-2008, 12:53 PM
In my opinion, the most likely reason why EB2 India dates have been advanced to June 2006 is to help consular posts. CP filers can get their interviews now.

IMO, This along with the max utilization of ideal 100% is what DOS got at by moving EB2 to 06/01/2006.

It appears like DOS wants to get each and every visa number allocated and given how USCIS have their files across the country, moving it well beyond gives USCIS a chance to pick the files that are handy.

In other words, Some on with Jan 06 PD can get out if their file is handy. Some one with Jan 04 (there are still who dont have a GC with 03 and 034 PD's) might still be waiting come dec 08., if their file is rotting some where.

IMO, OCT bulletin will start EB-2 India some where around APR 04.

bskrishna
07-11-2008, 12:54 PM
I am of the opinion that the dates might retrogress to somewhere in 2005 June as the worst case (by Oct-Nov), because the 05 numbers should really be low to start with due to PERM issues. Again this is just my educated guess.

webm
07-11-2008, 12:55 PM
Really WOW for EB2-India..:)

EB3-India still very sad...:(..lets pray for atleast Oct VB movement..


-------------------------
PD:EB3-I Oct,2001
485 AD:waiting goes on...

Cheran
07-11-2008, 12:59 PM
Between Fragoman, My Company and USCIS they sure are going to drive me nuts. I am waiting for green card for 10 years now with the same company. They are moving EB2 date and nothing gets done with EB3. On top of all these, 2 years from now, they will make all dates current which literally mean I will get my Green Card with a guy came here 10 months ago....

rp0lol
07-11-2008, 12:59 PM
I read this in another thread... May be USCIS wants to collect more money for EAD renewals by moving eb2 date and issuing 1yr approval.

===========================
Will applicants get a two-year EAD when they file an I-765 with their I-485 adjustment of status application?

Generally no. Initial EAD filings will generally receive an EAD that is valid for one- year because they are usually submitted with the Form I-485 that can only be filed when there is an immigrant visa number immediately available to the individual. Applicants are only eligible for a two-year EAD if their immigrant visa availability date retrogresses (i.e., when actual demand for visa numbers exceeds forecasted supply) after the Form I-485 is filed. If an immigrant visa number is available, USCIS will grant the one-year EAD.



How will USCIS decide whether to issue an EAD valid for one or two years?

USCIS will decide whether to renew an EAD for either a one or two-year validity period based on the most recent Department of State Visa Bulletin. If an applicant’s visa number has retrogressed and is unavailable, USCIS may issue a renewal EAD valid for two years. USCIS will continue to issue the EAD in one-year increments when the Department of State Visa Bulletin shows an employment-based preference category is current as a whole or the applicant’s priority date is current.
==================

chanduv23
07-11-2008, 01:01 PM
I am not sure if I should be happy or sad with this news. I was laidoff recently and had applied for I-485 on July 17,2007 i.e. current processing date for TSC. Also with this bulletin I will be current (EB2 2006). I have not found a new job yet and my company has told me that they will be revoking my I-140 after 30 days. My company lawyers are not advising me much citing conflict of interest.

What options do I have? Will sending a new G-28 form at this time raise any issues that I do not have job with original employer as my PD is current and it is quite possible that my case maybe adjudicated. In the meantime if I do not sent new G-28 form I am not sure how much my company attorney will co-operate

Saileshdude - relax. Get a job ASAP. PM me your phone number and I will call you

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 01:01 PM
heres the thing..we have been talking about the 2004 hump for eb2 for a while now. if you download the perm data from 2005 you will see only 7000+ PERM approvals for India. this included a significant number of EB3 other worker categories like pipe welder, cook, etc ( i am assuming they were eb3 -other worker...correct me if i m wrong)

this was the breakdown per month for perm 2005

March-1
April -13
May-72
June-324
July-351
Aug-833
Sept-1172
Oct-1212
Nov-1541
Dec-1771

7290 - includes everybody - eb2, eb3, eb3 other workers

the whole question was the hump of 2004-march2005

ithis is the first time since when retrogression started on oct 1 2005, that the dates have moved beyond 2005.

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 01:04 PM
I am guessing that this is a move to allocate more numbers to China-EB2 applicants since both India/China EB2 may move together.They want to get as much diversity as possible.

I agree with nixtor that EB2 India will retrogress soon before oct-08.
eb2 china was at jan2006 for a while. this will be the first time that they will be moving beyond jan 2006.

bskrishna
07-11-2008, 01:04 PM
heres the thing..we have been talking about the 2004 hump for eb2 for a while now. if you download the perm data from 2005 you will see only 7000+ PERM approvals for India. this included a significant number of EB3 other worker categories like pipe welder, cook, etc ( i am assuming they were eb3 -other worker...correct me if i m wrong)

this was the breakdown per month for perm 2005

March-1
April -13
May-72
June-324
July-351
Aug-833
Sept-1172
Oct-1212
Nov-1541
Dec-1771

7290 - includes everybody - eb2, eb3, eb3 other workers

the whole question was the hump of 2004-march2005

ithis is the first time since when retrogression started on oct 1 2005, that the dates have moved beyond 2005.


do we have any such nos for 04? ideally 05 EB2 should buzz through adjudication in less then a quarter.

eeezzz
07-11-2008, 01:05 PM
I don't think so. Eventhough they make U in september bulletin. They have to move dates in October bulletin because of new visa numbers.
Yes there will be dates in Oct. but will that be 2006 Jan.? That is what karanp25 means.
And answer is it probably will not be. We can look back the bulletin on May and June 2007. Are they match Oct. 2007 bulletin ?

Aah_GC
07-11-2008, 01:13 PM
Try your best to find a job. The market is picking up. At least try to join one of those desi companies even if they are offering a low salary. Just get past this time without making your situation a whole lot more complex.

Dont worry about lawyers, your ex employer revoking I140 - all that stuff doesn't matter now - just go find a job.


I am not sure if I should be happy or sad with this news. I was laidoff recently and had applied for I-485 on July 17,2007 i.e. current processing date for TSC. Also with this bulletin I will be current (EB2 2006). I have not found a new job yet and my company has told me that they will be revoking my I-140 after 30 days. My company lawyers are not advising me much citing conflict of interest.

What options do I have? Will sending a new G-28 form at this time raise any issues that I do not have job with original employer as my PD is current and it is quite possible that my case maybe adjudicated. In the meantime if I do not sent new G-28 form I am not sure how much my company attorney will co-operate

bskrishna
07-11-2008, 01:14 PM
Yes there will be dates in Oct. but will that be 2006 Jan.? That is what karanp25 means.
And answer is it probably will not be. We can look back the bulletin on May and June 2007. Are they match Oct. 2007 bulletin ?

07 case is different. we can't infer much from that. I hope DOS has some insight into the no of pending cases when the move dates like this. I am sure there will be language in the actual bulletin that saves them from flak when the move dates back. The primary aim is to utilize the visa nos. But with all the information available to them the movement should be proportional to the nos available from spillover and etc.,

bskrishna
07-11-2008, 01:16 PM
Try your best to find a job. The market is picking up. At least try to join one of those desi companies even if they are offering a low salary. Just get past this time without making your situation a whole lot more complex.

Dont worry about lawyers, your ex employer revoking I140 - all that stuff doesn't matter now - just go find a job.

can they even withdraw 140 after more then a year now?

paskal
07-11-2008, 01:16 PM
is there any way, any way in this whole freakin process, that we can get some sort of explanation for eb3-I first hand from DOS or USCIS? i mean there needs to be some justification for the acts? i know there are laws to interpret these dates, but how do we know that those laws are interpreted correctly by DOS or USCIS? though i am in eb3-I , jan 2003, i personally know atleast 3 folks who are in 2002 - eb3-I. Can we get some sort of guidance here.

i will ask the iv folks who keep in touch with USCIS if they know anything. AFAIK though, USCIS has come out with no answers other than quoting the non availability of adequate visa numbers. if there is any more info i will let you know...

jonty_11
07-11-2008, 01:16 PM
Now all those who have just become current...its lottery.!!!!

See if you hit the jackpot by Aug End.

wandmaker
07-11-2008, 01:18 PM
can they even withdraw 140 after more then a year now?

employer can withdraw the 140 any time before the approval of 485 - there is no time limit.

chanduv23
07-11-2008, 01:22 PM
employer can withdraw the 140 any time before the approval of 485 - there is no time limit.

That is right. But one MUST NOT worry about it as long as they have a job in hand with same or similar duties. Things to watch out are
(1) AC21 letter
(2) G28 properly filed
(3) NOID
(4) Denial - happened in some cases and reopened through MTR

Now even if your old employer did not revoke 140 you may get an RFE.

eeezzz
07-11-2008, 01:24 PM
07 case is different. we can't infer much from that. I hope DOS has some insight into the no of pending cases when the move dates like this. I am sure there will be language in the actual bulletin that saves them from flak when the move dates back. The primary aim is to utilize the visa nos. But with all the information available to them the movement should be proportional to the nos available from spillover and etc.,
I don't see what is really different. I am not talking about July 2007. I am talking about May or June bulletin 2007. Do you mean the bulletin on May or June 2007 is to utilize the visa so the dates are not the "real" date? Then how do you know Aug. 2008 move is not for the same purpose? Especially if this movement is caused by spillover.

jonty_11
07-11-2008, 01:29 PM
Anyone,

How do I start a new thread in IV ?
search for this the forums and u will find it.

nixstor
07-11-2008, 01:32 PM
eb2 china was at jan2006 for a while. this will be the first time that they will be moving beyond jan 2006.

The movement EB-2 china gets some times is solely because of the visa number that category gets. This typically happens in the first Q. EB2-I and EB2-C will have different PD's . Some time in 2nd Q or mid 2nd Q, both I and C will have used up their quota and they will continue to have the same PD until the end of the fiscal year as PD is the only thing that matters.

eb3retro
07-11-2008, 01:33 PM
i will ask the iv folks who keep in touch with USCIS if they know anything. AFAIK though, USCIS has come out with no answers other than quoting the non availability of adequate visa numbers. if there is any more info i will let you know...


paskal, thanks for the reply. whats very frustrating for me is, these guys mess up so badly and they get away with no trace , we all know that this happened in the past and probably is happening currently too. All we are asking is a fair FIFO method and proper usage of visa numbers with transparency. The mere fact that they are not transparent raises many doubts in many minds. And these questions are not coming from those people who filed for their greecards an year or 2 ago..i just read a post in this same thread that this person has been waiting for his green card for 10 years...this is the height of ridiculousness and there is a limit for our patience, and this is it...

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 01:37 PM
The movement EB-2 china gets some times is solely because of the visa number that category gets. This typically happens in the first Q. EB2-I and EB2-C will have different PD's . Some time in 2nd Q or mid 2nd Q, both I and C will have used up their quota and they will continue to have the same PD until the end of the fiscal year as PD is the only thing that matters.
the point was that they if their dates also move to june 2006, then it would be the first time they crossed the jan 2006 threshold.

himu73
07-11-2008, 01:40 PM
Is this the same bulletin as in uscis website. I dont see the August bulletin on Uscis website and the EB2 PD is still April 2004

SkilledWorker4GC
07-11-2008, 01:41 PM
:)Good News is Dates Moved and many of us with PD prior to Jun'06 might get our GC (Chances are less than 5%).

:(Bad News is all of us who applied for EAD renewal after June 30th wouldnt get a 2 years EAD instead would get 1 year EAD.

bskrishna
07-11-2008, 01:42 PM
I don't see what is really different. I am not talking about July 2007. I am talking about May or June bulletin 2007. Do you mean the bulletin on May or June 2007 is to utilize the visa so the dates are not the "real" date? Then how do you know Aug. 2008 move is not for the same purpose? Especially if this movement is caused by spillover.

There is chance that CIS and/or DOS know the breakdown of categories by country now as against last year. That is being a bit on the optimistic side.

add78
07-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Nope I dont agree. Even though theres any retrogression it would be very mild.
I have to agree with vdlrao, what will be interesting to see is where EB2-china is when DOS bulletin comes out. My guess is that EB2-china is current along with ROW.

SFSweta
07-11-2008, 02:03 PM
I can't believe this is how it feels to be sooo close to achieving your dream - regardless of how hard we've had to fight.....

Congratulations to each and everyone of you in EB2-India and China that have been pushing and clawing your way (just like I have) to get your greencards. While my PD is a month away - I am so glad for you. Get ready to go on a loooooong break (mentally, emotionally, and physically if possible as well).

I have been saving up every penny of my disposable income (after the shopping and eating out and everything else!) to go do the things I've wanted:

Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro
Spend 3 months with my family in India and Dubai
Go back to Culinary School
Go to Bordeaux and learn about wine
Become an amazing photographer (just like one of the members on this forum...)

The list goes on and on....

But most of all - I can't believe that the moment is here for almost ALL of us to be free of the shackles and really really live our lives. I'm proud to have participated in everything and hopefully we ALL worked to make this huge of a difference and will see this effort through to help all our colleagues stuck in the EB3-India and China mess....

amitjoey
07-11-2008, 02:08 PM
is there any way, any way in this whole freakin process, that we can get some sort of explanation for eb3-I first hand from DOS or USCIS? i mean there needs to be some justification for the acts? i know there are laws to interpret these dates, but how do we know that those laws are interpreted correctly by DOS or USCIS? though i am in eb3-I , jan 2003, i personally know atleast 3 folks who are in 2002 - eb3-I. Can we get some sort of guidance here.

I do not get it either. They seem to have this very complex formula to determine where to move the cutoff dates or they simply roll a dice. Is there no transperancy. Sometimes I figure I should just not be bothered. It is black box!!. But I can really not do that!. Atleast we are participating actively in the call campaigns. But is that all we can do?
EB3- June 2003, India

bharol
07-11-2008, 02:14 PM
This bulletin does prove that very few labor certificaions were done in 2005, due to move to PERM.

And those who had applied in PERM in 2005, got their GCs already..
I know a few who applied in PERM as soon it was introduced and got their
GCs last year.

mheggade
07-11-2008, 02:17 PM
Between Fragoman, My Company and USCIS they sure are going to drive me nuts. I am waiting for green card for 10 years now with the same company. They are moving EB2 date and nothing gets done with EB3. On top of all these, 2 years from now, they will make all dates current which literally mean I will get my Green Card with a guy came here 10 months ago....

I really sympathise with your situation, But your comments are outrageous.
R you saying Just because you suffered every body has to suffer.:mad:

pamposh
07-11-2008, 02:18 PM
I do not get it either. They seem to have this very complex formula to determine where to move the cutoff dates or they simply roll a dice. Is there no transperancy. Sometimes I figure I should just not be bothered. It is black box!!. But I can really not do that!. Atleast we are participating actively in the call campaigns. But is that all we can do?
EB3- June 2003, India

Don't worry be happy... atleast for a day. Coz I don't think it is going to last for very long. It is an Aug 08 fiasco instead of July 07 and this time they are being a lil reserved and not making the dates all the way current. Ofcourse there would be some lucky draws who get their GCs, we will have to wait and watch coz thatz all we (most of us) can do at this point.

Guess what, they are all celebrating my Birthday and that is why.

Pamposh.

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 02:23 PM
And those who had applied in PERM in 2005, got their GCs already..
I know a few who applied in PERM as soon it was introduced and got their
GCs last year.
not completely true...if people had filed their i-140 and i-485 before retrogression in 2005 (that means perm was approved before september 2005), they got their gcs last year, people like me with priority dates in sept 2005 (due to the general incompetencies that we have all experienced) were able to file only in july 2007.

hopefulgc
07-11-2008, 02:24 PM
If they are rolling a dice.. it sure reads 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and then 900 dots on the last face.
This bulletin rulz for giving a lot of people here (including me) false hopes.



I do not get it either. They seem to have this very complex formula to determine where to move the cutoff dates or they simply roll a dice. Is there no transperancy. Sometimes I figure I should just not be bothered. It is black box!!. But I can really not do that!. Atleast we are participating actively in the call campaigns. But is that all we can do?
EB3- June 2003, India

sroyc
07-11-2008, 02:25 PM
There could be two reasons for this huge forward movement for EB2.

1) They want to minimize wastage by making more visas available for CP.
2) There was some heartburn among EB2 China applicants when their PD was set to April 2004. Since there are a lot more EB2 India applicants with PD's earlier than that, they felt that most of the EB2-ROW spillover would go to India. Moving the dates forward to 2006 would ensure that EB2 China gets a decent share of the spillover.

Although this is unfair to folks with earlier PD's and is sure to cause a lot of heartburn, I would rather see the visas get used than get wasted again. Looks like the USCIS is setting a pattern of giving a year end bonanza to a few fortunate folks. Let the annual sweepstakes begin! Good luck everyone!!

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 02:26 PM
I can't believe this is how it feels to be sooo close to achieving your dream - regardless of how hard we've had to fight.....

Congratulations to each and everyone of you in EB2-India and China that have been pushing and clawing your way (just like I have) to get your greencards. While my PD is a month away - I am so glad for you. Get ready to go on a loooooong break (mentally, emotionally, and physically if possible as well).

I have been saving up every penny of my disposable income (after the shopping and eating out and everything else!) to go do the things I've wanted:

Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro
Spend 3 months with my family in India and Dubai
Go back to Culinary School
Go to Bordeaux and learn about wine
Become an amazing photographer (just like one of the members on this forum...)

The list goes on and on....

But most of all - I can't believe that the moment is here for almost ALL of us to be free of the shackles and really really live our lives. I'm proud to have participated in everything and hopefully we ALL worked to make this huge of a difference and will see this effort through to help all our colleagues stuck in the EB3-India and China mess....
another dubai desi!!!

are you ooehs, indian high, modern high, st marys or choueifat?

nogc_noproblem
07-11-2008, 02:30 PM
In order to avoid visa wastage, there is no ‘per country limit’ during the last quarter, that could be the main reason for this quantum leap in EB2-I PD movement.

Looks like DOS was not clear about the number of pending cases until a month ago and that’s why this movement was not happened last month - July, which was the first month in last quarter.


There could be two reasons for this huge forward movement for EB2.

1) They want to minimize wastage by making more visas available for CP.
2) There was some heartburn among EB2 China applicants when their PD was set to April 2004. Since there are a lot more EB2 India applicants with PD's earlier than that, they felt that most of the EB2-ROW spillover would go to India. Moving the dates forward to 2006 would ensure that EB2 China gets a decent share of the spillover.

Although this is unfair to folks with earlier PD's and is sure to cause a lot of heartburn, I would rather see the visas get used than get wasted again. Looks like the USCIS is setting a pattern of giving a year end bonanza to a few fortunate folks. Let the annual sweepstakes begin! Good luck everyone!!

sroyc
07-11-2008, 02:33 PM
I have been saving up every penny of my disposable income (after the shopping and eating out and everything else!) to go do the things I've wanted:

Climb Mt. Kilimanjaro
Spend 3 months with my family in India and Dubai
Go back to Culinary School
Go to Bordeaux and learn about wine
Become an amazing photographer (just like one of the members on this forum...)

The list goes on and on....


Just out of curiosity, what's stopping you from doing some of these things now? You probably cannot spend 3 months with your family in India and Dubai or go to culinary school full-time but you can definitely do all the rest while on H-1B/AOS.

sroyc
07-11-2008, 02:37 PM
In order to avoid visa wastage, there is no ‘per country limit’ during the last quarter, that could be the main reason for this quantum leap in EB2-I PD movement.


The per country limit was not adhered to even in the 3rd quarter. Remember how EB2 India rose like a phoenix from Unavailable to April 2004? Once they determine that there are enough visas for spillover, the per country limits don't exist. The question is how they decide to distribute it among the retrogressed countries.

yagw
07-11-2008, 03:08 PM
The per country limit was not adhered to even in the 3rd quarter. Remember how EB2 India rose like a phoenix from Unavailable to April 2004? Once they determine that there are enough visas for spillover, the per country limits don't exist. The question is how they decide to distribute it among the retrogressed countries.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4310.html

gondalguru
07-11-2008, 03:11 PM
EB2 India and EB2 China will have same cut off dates. I recall reading the USCIS explanation (in one of those AILA - USCIS conference) regarding distribution of unused EB2 ROW numbers and they mentioned that they have to keep EB2 I-C same till those catagories become current.

SFSweta
07-11-2008, 03:11 PM
Actually - I went to Cambridge High!! I cannot believe you missed that one!! What about Modern High?

SFSweta
07-11-2008, 03:12 PM
Just out of curiosity, what's stopping you from doing some of these things now? You probably cannot spend 3 months with your family in India and Dubai or go to culinary school full-time but you can definitely do all the rest while on H-1B/AOS.


- that's all and thanks for pointing it out :)

EkAurAaya
07-11-2008, 03:15 PM
"Demand for numbers will result in the Employment Third preference Other Worker category reaching the annual FY-2008 numerical limit. As a result, this category will become “unavailable” beginning in August and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2008. Such action will only be temporary, however, and the Employment Third preference Other Worker cut-off date will return to 01JAN03 in October, the first month of the new fiscal year."

Question is how long will it stay 01Jan03?

My PD is feb 03 :mad:

SFSweta
07-11-2008, 03:15 PM
Hmmm

gondalguru
07-11-2008, 03:19 PM
"Demand for numbers will result in the Employment Third preference Other Worker category reaching the annual FY-2008 numerical limit. As a result, this category will become “unavailable” beginning in August and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2008. Such action will only be temporary, however, and the Employment Third preference Other Worker cut-off date will return to 01JAN03 in October, the first month of the new fiscal year."

Question is how long will it stay 01Jan03?

My PD is feb 03 :mad:

Not too long hopefully. With new year quota it might move to Feb 03 very soon.

EkAurAaya
07-11-2008, 03:20 PM
.

:(Bad News is all of us who applied for EAD renewal after June 30th wouldnt get a 2 years EAD instead would get 1 year EAD.

bang on the money... i think this is just another ingenious way for USCIS to milk us :mad:

yabadaba
07-11-2008, 03:29 PM
Actually - I went to Cambridge High!! I cannot believe you missed that one!! What about Modern High?
cambridge high is a mallu school :D

bskrishna
07-11-2008, 03:32 PM
bang on the money... i think this is just another ingenious way for USCIS to milk us :mad:

I do not think CIS has that much smartness in them. Different sections seem to go about the motions on their own schedule. They seem to be an uncoordinated bunch so far.

EkAurAaya
07-11-2008, 03:36 PM
I do not think CIS has that much smartness in them. Different sections seem to go about the motions on their own schedule. They seem to be an uncoordinated bunch so far.

How do you explain push for EAD approvals before June 30th? ppl got approvals in matter of days (in most cases less then 20 days)

I think Obviously someones paying attention at USCIS when it comes to $

arunmohan
07-11-2008, 03:49 PM
paskal, thanks for the reply. whats very frustrating for me is, these guys mess up so badly and they get away with no trace , we all know that this happened in the past and probably is happening currently too. All we are asking is a fair FIFO method and proper usage of visa numbers with transparency. The mere fact that they are not transparent raises many doubts in many minds. And these questions are not coming from those people who filed for their greecards an year or 2 ago..i just read a post in this same thread that this person has been waiting for his green card for 10 years...this is the height of ridiculousness and there is a limit for our patience, and this is it...

Thanks Paskal, atleast he is going to ask from members of IV who are in touch with USCIS about EB3 situation. I will still urge to IV team to use FOIA to find out EB3 situation. We need to know the number because I know people who ever filed I-485 before Dec 31, 2004, most of them have received GC in June/July 2007.

We don't know when this date is going reach 2003 or 2004 because it was stuck Nov, 200 before it became unavailable. Most of EB3 folks were and are entitle to EB2 but due attorneys and company's policy we filed under EB3. Since most of us are working on EAD and we cannot convert EB3 to EB2. If some one have option to convert from EB3 to EB2, we don't know how long it will take(due to backlog of I140) and what could be the endresult. We need to stand together and need to find a possible option to do something. Otherwise we are in deep mess and we will in deep mess after 2 years or 3 years.


Please give us your feedback.

add78
07-11-2008, 03:51 PM
"Demand for numbers will result in the Employment Third preference Other Worker category reaching the annual FY-2008 numerical limit. As a result, this category will become “unavailable” beginning in August and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2008. Such action will only be temporary, however, and the Employment Third preference Other Worker cut-off date will return to 01JAN03 in October, the first month of the new fiscal year."

Question is how long will it stay 01Jan03?

My PD is feb 03 :mad:
They are talking about the EB-3 Other Worker category, NOT EB-3 India (one row below EB-3-I in the bulletin)
If you see July bulletin http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4252.html
the EB-3 - Other Worker was 01Jan03 which is now U in August bulletin
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4310.html

immigrationmatters30
07-11-2008, 03:52 PM
What do you guys think would be happen in SEP ? do you guys expect any forward movement.I still have not filed my I-485(yep, one of those unlucky ones who missed the boat).My PD is Aug-2007.

jonty_11
07-11-2008, 04:18 PM
I must commend the folks who hunt the Mumbai bulletin hrs/day before the Official Bulletin comes out..Kudos to them...

jonty_11
07-11-2008, 04:18 PM
how abt predictions for Nov 2008......Lets do that in the predictions thread though

Cheran
07-11-2008, 04:23 PM
Let's get this straight, We don't know each other, outside this website I see you as my competitor. Tomorrow you and I could compete for the same job right? Now add in the fact, that by crude luck you get your Green Card in 10 months and I get it in 10 years, how do you think that it is fair on my part?

You are here in Immigrationvoice, because you want your Green Card, so lets not act as if we are saving the world.

I don't want you suffer but at the same time I don't want to suffer so that others could live a hearty life...


I really sympathise with your situation, But your comments are outrageous.
R you saying Just because you suffered every body has to suffer.:mad:

gimme_GC2006
07-11-2008, 04:27 PM
Good to see my case will be current now in AUG.

But my case was long transferred to NBC..anyone can guess what might happen to my 485?

EkAurAaya
07-11-2008, 04:32 PM
They are talking about the EB-3 Other Worker category, NOT EB-3 India (one row below EB-3-I in the bulletin)
If you see July bulletin http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4252.html
the EB-3 - Other Worker was 01Jan03 which is now U in August bulletin
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4310.html

Oh - I got excited for nothing! Thanks for correcting me.

So "Other workers" is also considered EB3? who falls in this category...?