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rcr_bulk
08-11-2009, 11:20 AM
Visa Bulletin September 2009 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4558.html)

va_dude
08-11-2009, 11:29 AM
WTF..... i'm so damn ticked off now.

Eb3-I has been just hung out to dry.
Everything else keeps progressing. Bullshit obama govt isn't doing squat for the immig reform bill too.

I'm fine with Eb2-I progressing, but shouldn't there be something to move Eb3 too. Its crazy to think that folks in Eb3 with dates of 2002/03 are still waiting while Eb3 folks from 2005 are now current.

ravise
08-11-2009, 11:37 AM
1st C C C C C
2nd C 08JAN05 08JAN05 C C
3rd U U U U U

HV000
08-11-2009, 11:51 AM
Ahhhh so close!!! Mine is EB2-I - March 2005!!
Has Oct bulletin traditionally gone forward than Sept bulletin. I feel very bad for EB3. Oct has to open up for EB3.

jetflyer
08-11-2009, 12:03 PM
Ahhhh so close!!! Mine is EB2-I - March 2005!!
Has Oct bulletin traditionally gone forward than Sept bulletin. I feel very bad for EB3. Oct has to open up for EB3.

You can see yourself:

SEPTEMBER 2008 01AUG06
OCTOBER 2008 01APR03
SEPTEMBER 2007 01APR04
OCTOBER 2007 01APR04
SEPTEMBER 2006 U
OCTOBER 2006 15JUN02
SEPTEMBER 2005 C
OCTOBER 2005 01NOV99

GotFreedom?
08-11-2009, 12:14 PM
BUMMER EB3
SWEET EB2

Lets hope for the best in the next VB.

HopeSprings
08-11-2009, 12:35 PM
I was hoping the date to be somewhere around March 2005. That would have taken care of all Backlog Elimination Center cases.
- Current dates show that there were a lot of BEC cases to be approved.
- Now, dates might struggle a bit to reach April 2005.
- Dates should move faster after that till end of 2005 as there were very few cases that went through PERM in 2005.
- Again, in 2006 the Dates might move slow till......we reach last FY month overflow in Sept 2010.

shishya
08-11-2009, 12:39 PM
My PD is May 2006. I applied for I-485 in September 2008 when my date had become current. Subsequently got married and now waiting for my date to be current again so I could add my wife.

I had given hope and was not preparing for anything and hence have India trip planned (wife 11th Sept - 1st Nov and I'd go for the month of October).

Given the latest movement, now I think to be safe I should do all that is necessary that in case dates move forward enough for October, I should be able to add my wife to my application. If there are any comments/advice around this, please do let me know.

Also, what would be the things to get ready for her? I hope it'd be alrite that she will be in India while we apply for her I-485?

Thanks for all the advise!

acecupid
08-11-2009, 12:46 PM
BUMMER EB3
SWEET EB2

Lets hope for the best in the next VB.

Its been BUMMER EB3 for a while now :)

dwhuser
08-11-2009, 12:59 PM
Please dear god..... let them consider priority date instead of the notice date. Mine is Oct 15th 2007. Our priority dates were current for three times and our application never touched, all our friends March 2006 to Jun 2006 filers got their cards a couple of years ago....:rolleyes:
Please....please....dearlord.....
I am so sorry for the EB3 filers...hope their dates will pick up the wind.....

frostrated
08-11-2009, 12:59 PM
EB3 quota for this year was exhausted a long time ago. We are not going to see any overflow into EB3 until EB2 has unused visas left at the end of the FY year. Letz just hope that the date moves forward when the new quota starts next month. It was Nov 2001 before it became unvailable. Now that they have quite a few pre-adjudicated applications, they should be able to better forecast the dates it needs to move when the new fiscal year starts. Or, they might just move the date to Jan 02. Letz see in another month what the future says.

sanju_dba
08-11-2009, 01:22 PM
If dates are not favorable, i am considering moving to EB2.
I am afraid , folks like me when rush to EB2 ( which has been going on ) the VB for EB2 will show back ward dates again after 6months from now.

Mine is EB3 , Oct 03, India.

Michael chertoff
08-11-2009, 01:28 PM
I think by this time next year..we all will have greencard... have fun.

dontcareanymore
08-11-2009, 01:39 PM
My PD is May 2006. I applied for I-485 in September 2008 when my date had become current. Subsequently got married and now waiting for my date to be current again so I could add my wife.

I had given hope and was not preparing for anything and hence have India trip planned (wife 11th Sept - 1st Nov and I'd go for the month of October).

Given the latest movement, now I think to be safe I should do all that is necessary that in case dates move forward enough for October, I should be able to add my wife to my application. If there are any comments/advice around this, please do let me know.

Also, what would be the things to get ready for her? I hope it'd be alrite that she will be in India while we apply for her I-485?

Thanks for all the advise!

The reason for this EB2 move is end of year overflow from other categories. I would not expect a significant forward movement next month (if at all there is ANY forward movement).
If the past experience is any indication, you might see a pullback.

You would know in advance if the dates move forward next month and I guess you can reschedule your visit and cut short your wife's trip.

You can prepare all the necessary documentation like birth certificate (translations if necessary) marriage certificate and/or any affidavits (if necessary) in advance.
I don't think your wife can apply AOS (Adjustment of Status) while abroad. She has to be present in USA. She can however file "Consular Processing" while in a foreign country, if that is what you want to pursue.

frostrated
08-11-2009, 01:43 PM
i guess with more EB3 folks moving to EB2, it will help those of us who are stuck with no option to move to EB2. :)
i think they need to make a rule where if you are stuck more than 5 years due to retrogression, all over flow visas need to be first given to those folks in the order of PD.

ruchigup
08-11-2009, 01:44 PM
Dear Lord please listen to dwhuser. I have the same concern

dwhuser, did you see any LUD in recent month or any RFE

Please dear god..... let them consider priority date instead of the notice date. Mine is Oct 15th 2007. Our priority dates were current for three times and our application never touched, all our friends March 2006 to Jun 2006 filers got their cards a couple of years ago....:rolleyes:
Please....please....dearlord.....
I am so sorry for the EB3 filers...hope their dates will pick up the wind.....

pappu
08-11-2009, 01:46 PM
There is nothing surprising about sept VB. Retrogression is here to stay unless any bill is passed. Please take note of the action item we have posted if we wish to see a change instead of waiting for VB and hoping for change.

pappu
08-11-2009, 01:46 PM
There is nothing surprising about sept VB. Retrogression is here to stay unless any bill is passed. Please take note of the action item we have posted if we wish to see a change instead of waiting for VB and hoping for change.

GCNirvana007
08-11-2009, 02:04 PM
Dear Lord please listen to dwhuser. I have the same concern

dwhuser, did you see any LUD in recent month or any RFE

I am EB2 Dec 2004

I saw an LUD in June this yr

hydboy77
08-11-2009, 02:40 PM
Dream on about porting from Eb3 to EB2. On an average it is taking more 9 months to get labor clearence that too if it is eb3. if you are trying eb2 that is almost a definite audit. We have a case in our company which was stuck in audit (eb2) for more than an year now. our company and attorney are no longer filing eb2 (offcourse it is a different matter than they are no longer filing any green card application because of layoffs). So unless you are working for a desi "con"sultant company not many american companies (almosy none) are filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb3 to eb2 conversions. Even desi companies are scared shit because USCIS is knocking the living daylights out of them. Even desi companies are scared of filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb2. So good luck with your eb3 to eb2 dream.


If dates are not favorable, i am considering moving to EB2.
I am afraid , folks like me when rush to EB2 ( which has been going on ) the VB for EB2 will show back ward dates again after 6months from now.

Mine is EB3 , Oct 03, India.

sai_dt2000
08-11-2009, 03:36 PM
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ksrk
08-11-2009, 03:41 PM
There is nothing surprising about sept VB. Retrogression is here to stay unless any bill is passed. Please take note of the action item we have posted if we wish to see a change instead of waiting for VB and hoping for change.


I agree with Pappu. This really doesn't mean much, at least nothing one can work through logically to understand how long it might take for one to get the GC, leave alone use it as basis to hope for one even if PD is current. This is as good/bad as the H1B lottery in April '06-'08.
The only sustainable and meaningful relief lies in recapture and expansion of visa numbers, STEM exemption, etc. Let's work on buzzing in our congresspersons' years this August.

sprash
08-11-2009, 04:18 PM
Ooh so close ...
(my PD is 27 JAN 05)

HV000
08-11-2009, 04:25 PM
How many applications are pending for EB2 - I in 2004?? Just trying to estimate if OCT bulletin will move forward, if any. Unfortunately, i can't file AOS for my wife until the dates are current. I'm dying to use EAD since many employers are not sponsoring H1B these days. I've lost 3 good job opportunities because of this reason!!

HV000
08-11-2009, 05:10 PM
Does DOS allocate atleast 25% of 140,000 numbers in October?? I am trying to figure out if dates will more forward or not.

krish2005
08-11-2009, 05:10 PM
Its high time since we spent in doing the guesswork. But sadly that's the only way to get out of the mental agony any one in EB3 stands as of now.

Even obama has indicated that immig reform is in the attic and also visa bulletin site shows wordings like that 10000 numbers for EB3 has been cut to 5000 (it must be saying from long time back itself) which is another pain in the already open wound of EB3.

Good at least EB2 moved but sad story continues for EB3. My guesswork is that for EB3 some daylight will be possible only around feb 2010. If no moves happen even in next year then its s%^t for all of us in EB3.

seekerofpeace
08-11-2009, 05:10 PM
I don't see anything positive in the Visa Movement....

It will be good only for July 1st/2nd filers because I-485 receipt date holds priority over the actual Labor App priority date and for those with receipt dates of 485 in Aug or Sept I don't see any hope of clearance since there are millions in line ahead of them who are the July 2 filers. Same happened to ppl with Labor PD of 2006 but had a July 2 485 receipt date and were able to jump the line.

Also USCIS is not going to adjudicate any cases without throwing an RFE since more than 2 years have passed and by the time people respond to the RFE the October bulletin will be effective and it will be another huge retrogression as history has shown.

Pity ...for the sheer mess and for the so many legals waiting forever...

SoP

pd_recapturing
08-11-2009, 05:14 PM
I would say if you are getting a good opportunity, do not loose it for the sake of September Visa bulletin. Do not send the AC21 documents to USCIS. If RFE comes, you can respond quickly by hoping that they will approve your case at the same time. In case, if you don't get RFE (chances are more), you might get GC right away.

jetflyer
08-11-2009, 05:29 PM
as usual after seeing these date like everybody else I also started thinking when will be my turn?
I did some digging in DHS data and here is the list with number of PERM Approvals, these are for India only and includes EB2 + EB3:

PD Year Count PD Month
2005 1 Mar
2005 24 Apr
2005 133 May
2005 535 Jun
2005 794 July
2005 1313 Aug
2005 1316 Sep
2005 1212 Oct
2005 1541 Nov
2005 1771 Dec
2006 1788 Jan
2006 1729 Feb
2006 2224 Mar
2006 1635 Apr
2006 1876 May
2006 1902 Jun
2006 1574 July
2006 1317 Aug
2006 963 Sep

jetflyer
08-11-2009, 05:30 PM
as usual after seeing these date like everybody else I also started thinking when will be my turn?
I did some digging in DHS data and here is the list with number of PERM Approvals, these are for India only and includes EB2 + EB3:

PD Year PD Month Count
2005 Mar 1
2005 Apr 24
2005 May 133
2005 Jun 535
2005 July 794
2005 Aug 1313
2005 Sep 1316
2005 Oct 1212
2005 Nov 1541
2005 Dec 1771
2006 Jan 1788
2006 Feb 1729
2006 Mar 2224
2006 Apr 1635
2006 May 1876
2006 Jun 1902
2006 July 1574
2006 Aug 1317
2006 Sep 963

jsb
08-11-2009, 05:34 PM
Hi,
If any one can answer this question for me it will help:

My PD will be current with sept 09 bulletin. I was about to file for AC21. what should i do now:

1. File for AC21 and then if they raise RFE then chances are i am not be able to respond back to rfe or they delay the process of allocating a visa # for my case. In that case i may loose the sept 09 visa availablity for myself to get GC

2. Do not file for AC21 and hope i get my GC. In case they raise RFE I will try to respond and then see what happens.

There is nothing like filing for AC21. If some attorneys do, it is for making some money out of you. Just do nothing at this time. If an RFE comes, get a job offer (if you are already in that job, letter should say that your job will continue upon getting your GC) from your new employer. Job needs to be same/similar to what was described in original LC (there is no clear definition of what is same/similar, but try to have some technical words as in the original LC. IO's are not technical, and they are quite lenient in interpretation of this rule). Anyway, do nothing for now. Just hope for the best.

gc_on_demand
08-11-2009, 06:09 PM
as usual after seeing these date like everybody else I also started thinking when will be my turn?
I did some digging in DHS data and here is the list with number of PERM Approvals, these are for India only and includes EB2 + EB3:

PD Year PD Month Count
2005 Mar 1
2005 Apr 24
2005 May 133
2005 Jun 535
2005 July 794
2005 Aug 1313
2005 Sep 1316
2005 Oct 1212
2005 Nov 1541
2005 Dec 1771
2006 Jan 1788
2006 Feb 1729
2006 Mar 2224
2006 Apr 1635
2006 May 1876
2006 Jun 1902
2006 July 1574
2006 Aug 1317
2006 Sep 963

Can you post a link from where you got this data . Is it DOS or DOL ?

hopefulgc
08-11-2009, 06:25 PM
its sept 2007


Since processing time for Nebraska is 09/08, don't u think people in august get processed?

seekerofpeace
08-11-2009, 07:19 PM
As per my ex-attorney I-485 receipt date holds edge over the PD....which is stupid to say the least....ideally it should PD FIFO but then again USCIS is anything but sane...

The 485 processing date is slower that India's 5 year plans...especially at TSC....

Also RFEs that some of my friends got are not so simple...one was asked for continued pay slips to show no break in job or in betwen jobs....had it been just a EVL things 'd have been much simpler.

In any case no RFE can be addressed and processed within 30 days...so anyone getting an RFE and who falls within the window meaning PD current will loose a chance....since in all probability Oct things will move back again....

Best

SoP

saketkapur
08-11-2009, 07:24 PM
I would say if you are getting a good opportunity, do not loose it for the sake of September Visa bulletin. Do not send the AC21 documents to USCIS. If RFE comes, you can respond quickly by hoping that they will approve your case at the same time. In case, if you don't get RFE (chances are more), you might get GC right away.


absolutley true........ AC21 is not mandatory........respond only if RFE is generated....

just my 2 cents

ruchigup
08-11-2009, 08:10 PM
Like other people said, take the job and move on. No need to send any documents to file AC21.

I changed job last year and did not send any AC21 document. This year when I got employment verification RFE, my attorney sent a letter from my new employer that I am working on a similar position and also an AC21 eligibility letter. So AC21 can be done if and when you get a RFE for employment.

All is good (at least that's what I think)

absolutley true........ AC21 is not mandatory........respond only if RFE is generated....

just my 2 cents

Hi,
If any one can answer this question for me it will help:

My PD will be current with sept 09 bulletin. I was about to file for AC21. what should i do now:

1. File for AC21 and then if they raise RFE then chances are i am not be able to respond back to rfe or they delay the process of allocating a visa # for my case. In that case i may loose the sept 09 visa availablity for myself to get GC

2. Do not file for AC21 and hope i get my GC. In case they raise RFE I will try to respond and then see what happens.

desighee
08-11-2009, 08:21 PM
Please dear god..... let them consider priority date instead of the notice date. Mine is Oct 15th 2007. Our priority dates were current for three times and our application never touched, all our friends March 2006 to Jun 2006 filers got their cards a couple of years ago....:rolleyes:
Please....please....dearlord.....
I am so sorry for the EB3 filers...hope their dates will pick up the wind.....

Pity on u man..you are asking the the lord..the supreme for a freakin green card..ask for something bigger:)

shreekhand
08-11-2009, 10:23 PM
Awesome, fantastic! One beautiful post I have seen after a loong time :)

Pity on u man..you are asking the the lord..the supreme for a freakin green card..ask for something bigger:)

sanjose
08-11-2009, 10:41 PM
WTF..... i'm so damn ticked off now.

Eb3-I has been just hung out to dry.
Everything else keeps progressing. Bullshit obama govt isn't doing squat for the immig reform bill too.

I'm fine with Eb2-I progressing, but shouldn't there be something to move Eb3 too. Its crazy to think that folks in Eb3 with dates of 2002/03 are still waiting while Eb3 folks from 2005 are now current.

because they spent those 2 years getting additional academic qualifications such as masters etc., you should have listened to your parents when they told you to study well.. didnt you play cricket then ?

hiralal
08-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Pity on u man..you are asking the the lord..the supreme for a freakin green card..ask for something bigger:)
I agree ..pray that no one has to go through what we have had to go through and that there are 10 other dream destinations in the next 10 years ... or that china and India themselves become the best places in the world (seems like wishful thinking though)

sanjose
08-11-2009, 10:56 PM
... that there are 10 other dream destinations in the next 10 years ... Uh !! 10 DREAM DESTINATIONS ? Well, when too many things are considered special, the fact is , nothing is special. So let us reduce that number to 1, 2 or max 3. :rolleyes:

satyasaich
08-11-2009, 11:01 PM
what makes you think that EB3 are just graduates only? i worked in top 3 telecom company with B.tech+ 8 years experience before joining that company as full time employee in 2000 Jan. they started by GC process in JAn 2001.
but they have a company policy that all will be filed as EB3 no matter what. i have my colleagues who have masters from US, but still EB3. what do you say ?

what pisses me off is today i have more than 15 years of experience in IT , (yes Information technology only) and still in the line with EB3.
I'm happy that atleast EB2 is moving but at the same time there must be a balance for EB3 as well. that's all my point

(NOte: i was playing by rule so far and no regrets for that)

because they spent those 2 years getting additional academic qualifications such as masters etc., you should have listened to your parents when they told you to study well.. didnt you play cricket then ?

immigrant2007
08-12-2009, 12:07 AM
what makes you think that EB3 are just graduates only? i worked in top 3 telecom company with B.tech+ 8 years experience before joining that company as full time employee in 2000 Jan. they started by GC process in JAn 2001.
but they have a company policy that all will be filed as EB3 no matter what. i have my colleagues who have masters from US, but still EB3. what do you say ?

what pisses me off is today i have more than 15 years of experience in IT , (yes Information technology only) and still in the line with EB3.
I'm happy that atleast EB2 is moving but at the same time there must be a balance for EB3 as well. that's all my point

(NOte: i was playing by rule so far and no regrets for that)

I strongly agree with you and forgive stupid MAsters guys for his stupid comments.....this is the way he is showing support for everyone

gcny2006
08-12-2009, 12:40 AM
Here is what ron gotcher has to say and zI think it makes sense.

don't have access to the raw data. I have spoken with personnel in the Visa Office and they have been unwilling to give out precise numbers. Rather, they have used phrases like "limited numbers" and "handful of numbers" to describe the situation.

I believe these assessments to be accurate. I base this belief on the certain knowledge that the CIS has more than enough pending China and India and India E2 cases to use up the remaining quota without having to advance cutoff dates at all.

If the CIS were processing enough cases to close out the quota, there would be absolutely need for the Visa Office to advance cutoff dates. Advancing cutoff dates if the CIS were processing enough cases to use up the quota would only result in more cases being filed than could be accommodated. There would be no point in doing this and, in fact, it would be contrary to established procedure. The only possible reason for advancing cutoff dates under present circumstances would be to allow consular posts to adjudicate more cases from their inventories.

Does this mean that the CIS is not going to approve any China or India E2 cases? Of course they will? They are a big agency and they are always adjudicating some cases. There is a difference, however, between adjudicating some cases and adjudicating a large number of cases. If they were adjudicating more than a few cases, or even likely to adjudicate more than a few cases, the VO would not have advanced cutoff dates. Doing so would have been positively harmful. The fact that VO did advance priority dates is the best evidence that the CIS is not processing enough cases to exhaust the quota.

The best evidence of this will be the establishment of the cutoff dates for the October Visa Bulletin. If the cutoff dates remain where they are, then that will be evidence that there are plenty of E2 numbers available for China and India. On the other hand, if cutoff dates for China and India E2 retrogress significantly in October, that will substantiate the position that there were only a few numbers (relatively speaking) available. If the cutoff dates retrogress, as the folks at the VO assure me they will, then that is conclusive evidence of the accuracy of this conclusion.
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senthil1
08-12-2009, 01:02 AM
Eb2 will be better most of the time because many will not be eligible or Job position does not need Masters or 5 years of experience. So it will move fast though it may go back on october. So if possible try to port into EB2 will always be a good idea. CIR or Visa capture bill may not be possible atleast for an year or more. EB1 and EB2 are best bet for next 1 to 2 years.

Dream on about porting from Eb3 to EB2. On an average it is taking more 9 months to get labor clearence that too if it is eb3. if you are trying eb2 that is almost a definite audit. We have a case in our company which was stuck in audit (eb2) for more than an year now. our company and attorney are no longer filing eb2 (offcourse it is a different matter than they are no longer filing any green card application because of layoffs). So unless you are working for a desi "con"sultant company not many american companies (almosy none) are filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb3 to eb2 conversions. Even desi companies are scared shit because USCIS is knocking the living daylights out of them. Even desi companies are scared of filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb2. So good luck with your eb3 to eb2 dream.

kpchal2
08-12-2009, 01:45 AM
please refer the dates before posting such useless information. very ashamed to see some donors do this kind of mistake. unnecessarily misguiding the people. for a moment i lost hope. if this time, the uscis (after all the preadjudication numbers and all) makes this kind of stupid mistake then the USCIS should be ashamed of its existence and DHS should shove its head in some uselss thing.

Here is what ron gotcher has to say and zI think it makes sense.

don't have access to the raw data. I have spoken with personnel in the Visa Office and they have been unwilling to give out precise numbers. Rather, they have used phrases like "limited numbers" and "handful of numbers" to describe the situation.

I believe these assessments to be accurate. I base this belief on the certain knowledge that the CIS has more than enough pending China and India and India E2 cases to use up the remaining quota without having to advance cutoff dates at all.

If the CIS were processing enough cases to close out the quota, there would be absolutely need for the Visa Office to advance cutoff dates. Advancing cutoff dates if the CIS were processing enough cases to use up the quota would only result in more cases being filed than could be accommodated. There would be no point in doing this and, in fact, it would be contrary to established procedure. The only possible reason for advancing cutoff dates under present circumstances would be to allow consular posts to adjudicate more cases from their inventories.

Does this mean that the CIS is not going to approve any China or India E2 cases? Of course they will? They are a big agency and they are always adjudicating some cases. There is a difference, however, between adjudicating some cases and adjudicating a large number of cases. If they were adjudicating more than a few cases, or even likely to adjudicate more than a few cases, the VO would not have advanced cutoff dates. Doing so would have been positively harmful. The fact that VO did advance priority dates is the best evidence that the CIS is not processing enough cases to exhaust the quota.

The best evidence of this will be the establishment of the cutoff dates for the October Visa Bulletin. If the cutoff dates remain where they are, then that will be evidence that there are plenty of E2 numbers available for China and India. On the other hand, if cutoff dates for China and India E2 retrogress significantly in October, that will substantiate the position that there were only a few numbers (relatively speaking) available. If the cutoff dates retrogress, as the folks at the VO assure me they will, then that is conclusive evidence of the accuracy of this conclusion.
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gcny2006
08-12-2009, 02:14 AM
please refer the dates before posting such useless information. very ashamed to see some donors do this kind of mistake. unnecessarily misguiding the people. for a moment i lost hope. if this time, the uscis (after all the preadjudication numbers and all) makes this kind of stupid mistake then the USCIS should be ashamed of its existence and DHS should shove its head in some uselss thing.


You are right I did pick up an old post. Here is the link that discusses the 2009 dates. Ron Gotcher's assessment remains the same.

Visa bulletin september 2009 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8752-visa-bulletin-september-2009-a.html)

I am not trying to scare you, far from it I am trying to make sense of conflicting reports we keep getting from uscis and visa bulletin. AS ron gotcher says the oct bulletin will complete the picture.

However, I am afraid that we will see dates retrogress again in oct. why? because I don't see a lot of people getting their I 485 approved. There are several eb2 I cases here and in that are current and haven't been approved . You would see a lot of celebration on this site if people were getting approved .
We have see this movie before. It happens every year - VO trying to get uscis to move and use the visa numbers and uscis being its old lazy ineffecient self.

I am sorry I don't mean to be a wet blanket.

kpchal2
08-12-2009, 08:54 AM
i dont get the point behind these useless predictions. ron gotcher and mathew oh are just trying to sell their websites. there are 100's of instances when they were wrong. so i would not be going with their predictions unless i am very desperate for some and any kind of information.

jsb
08-12-2009, 09:29 AM
Since processing time for Nebraska is 09/08, don't u think people in august get processed?

If Processing time is shown to be Sept'08, it means filings 'received' in Sept'08 or before have been reviewed. 'Received' date is what shows in your online status as '...you case was received on...", not what is printed on your receipt. If there was no issue, most likely are 'preadjudicated'.

HV000
08-12-2009, 09:35 AM
How many 2004 EB2-I are pending? Per the FY2008 DHS Statistics 25,777 PRs were approved. But we dont how many of these EB1, EB2, and EB3.

rockstart
08-12-2009, 09:36 AM
I agree its tactic to scare people and attract attention. I think USCIS is far better placed today in 2009 compared to what it was in 2007. If that was not the case they would have just moved the Priority dates to Mid 2006 like they did last year. But this year they are much better prepared in their estimates. In Oct the dates might go back but it will definately not go back to Jan 2000 or U. They might take them back to mid 2004 and start slow advance from there. Next year Sep 10 bulletion hopefully they can take them to early. I am sure in Oct EB3 I will also come out of U and will be some where in early 2002 status at begining and will advance from there on.

HV000
08-12-2009, 09:55 AM
Visa bulletin movement for India in the last 5 years!

EB2/EB3
OCT 08 - SEP 09
1APR03 - 8JAN05/01JUL01 - U

OCT 07 - SEP 08
1APR04 - 1AUG06/22APR01 - U

OCT 06 - SEP 07
15JUN02 - 1APR04/22APR01 - U

OCT 05 - SEP 06
1NOV99 - U/1JAN98 - 15APR01

OCT 04 - SEP 05
C - C/C - U

jetflyer
08-12-2009, 11:01 AM
Can you post a link from where you got this data . Is it DOS or DOL ?

Here you can get all:
FLCDataCenter.com (http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx)

sk2006
08-12-2009, 11:18 AM
Pity on u man..you are asking the the lord..the supreme for a freakin green card..ask for something bigger:)


May be a SUV or a house.. :D:D:D

johnwright03
08-12-2009, 11:30 AM
I strongly agree with you and forgive stupid MAsters guys for his stupid comments.....this is the way he is showing support for everyone

Relax guys...that was just pun intended..!!! Don't take it hard...everyone is worried about EB3 folks...!!!

BECsufferer
08-12-2009, 02:02 PM
I can jump around in joy and happiness as my PD is current under Sept. VB. But I am sure it will retrogress next month to pre-2004 ... till than I have 29 days of joy!

"Dil ko khush rahkne ke leye, Galib yeh khayal bhi accaha hain"

EB-2 I, PD Dec 2004.

KiranKashi
08-12-2009, 02:20 PM
Check this out...

LaserCard Corporation : News & Events : Press Releases (http://www.lasercard.com/newsReleases.php?key=50&release=175&yr=2009)

uma001
08-12-2009, 02:40 PM
EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

hydboy77
08-12-2009, 02:57 PM
I was wondering why is it that you have so many red dots and so disliked in IV and your response below answers that question. You are a mischief monger who want to mislead people. The issue was never about which is better eb1 or eb2 or eb3, the answer is eb1 is better than eb2 and eb2 is better than eb3. The issue is how easy is it to port to eb2, infact if porting to eb2 was that easy everybody would have already done that. nobody is sponsoring green cards in this economy not even eb3 forget about eb2, not even desi companies are sponsoring eb3 perm petitions. In this age when there are reports that USCIS is sending out invistigators to look into even ac21 cases you are misleading people into porting from eb3 to eb2. Forget about porting as no one is even sponsoring eb3 perm.
As slim a chance as it is, visa recapture or some administrative fix like a remporary green card or relaxation of ac21 regulations like same semilar job restrictions is our best bet.

Eb2 will be better most of the time because many will not be eligible or Job position does not need Masters or 5 years of experience. So it will move fast though it may go back on october. So if possible try to port into EB2 will always be a good idea. CIR or Visa capture bill may not be possible atleast for an year or more. EB1 and EB2 are best bet for next 1 to 2 years.

Dream on about porting from Eb3 to EB2. On an average it is taking more 9 months to get labor clearence that too if it is eb3. if you are trying eb2 that is almost a definite audit. We have a case in our company which was stuck in audit (eb2) for more than an year now. our company and attorney are no longer filing eb2 (offcourse it is a different matter than they are no longer filing any green card application because of layoffs). So unless you are working for a desi "con"sultant company not many american companies (almosy none) are filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb3 to eb2 conversions. Even desi companies are scared shit because USCIS is knocking the living daylights out of them. Even desi companies are scared of filing eb3 green card perm applications leave alone eb2. So good luck with your eb3 to eb2 dream.

uma001
08-12-2009, 03:04 PM
Hydeboy is right.
My american employer rejected to file PERM after ads are posted. They were supposed to befiling in EB3 and they said they found candidates so they are not going to file green card...I am totally depressed..This is the true picture in almost all american companies. BEWARE of green card.

asdfred
08-12-2009, 03:32 PM
How to get info on how many EB2/EB3 - India were given out for 2008 or 2009?

praveenuppaluri
08-12-2009, 03:33 PM
people who already applied for GC (any EB) and are waiting, understand that you are lucky to cross that line.. in currrent economy, it doesn't matter if its EB2 or EB3, any job posting out there will get 100s of resumes and we are politely told to look for other options outside the country.. guess the below statement is true for everyone who needs to apply now..


EB Guys, ..
No green card for you. ... Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

gauravsh
08-12-2009, 04:03 PM
I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.

I think this is right decision at this time.

Any suggestions/feedback guys?

Tortoise
08-12-2009, 04:03 PM
Pls use this site for any issues and their resolution, Not to create despair and panic with your posts..Eb2 or Eb3 are mostly employer's choice rather than your skills in most of the cases if you work for a desi company. Doesn't mean that Eb2 is not higher than Eb3.

Pls dont discourage or devide the community.

greenleaf81
08-12-2009, 05:13 PM
I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.

I think this is right decision at this time.

Any suggestions/feedback guys?

Everybody's case is different, when it comes to how they feel being a in a foreign country and hanging by a thread to get a stable status and stable life. You seem to have gotten a stable job which probably means you are better than most of the people who are working as contractors. But what matters is being on Visa, are you able to enjoy your life here? Will getting a GC help you have a better life or will you continue to lead the same life?

I think if you believe getting a GC will help you lead a better life you should stay here - since your i140 is cleared its another 4-5 yrs wait max. On the other hand if your job here is unstable and you think you will have a better life back home, then you should move. Bangalore is a great city as long as you have a comfortable job and good pay.

potatoeater
08-12-2009, 06:01 PM
How did you get the job? Can you send us the name and contact information of the recruiting firm please?


I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.

I think this is right decision at this time.

Any suggestions/feedback guys?

snathan
08-12-2009, 06:20 PM
EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

Does it make any sense...in the name of humour you are just pissing every one here.

gauravsh
08-12-2009, 06:44 PM
Everybody's case is different, when it comes to how they feel being a in a foreign country and hanging by a thread to get a stable status and stable life. You seem to have gotten a stable job which probably means you are better than most of the people who are working as contractors. But what matters is being on Visa, are you able to enjoy your life here? Will getting a GC help you have a better life or will you continue to lead the same life?

I think if you believe getting a GC will help you lead a better life you should stay here - since your i140 is cleared its another 4-5 yrs wait max. On the other hand if your job here is unstable and you think you will have a better life back home, then you should move. Bangalore is a great city as long as you have a comfortable job and good pay.

Thanks man. My decision was mainly based on the waiting period. Within 4-5 years I can get ultimate post based on my experiance at india but here I have to be in same role.
Also I am trying to start my own IT training firm there so with gods on my side in 4-5 years that company can grow to a mid size firm.

gauravsh
08-12-2009, 06:46 PM
How did you get the job? Can you send us the name and contact information of the recruiting firm please?

I was mainly through internal references. If you need your resume to be forwarded by my references in there company, I will be glad to help.

smisachu
08-12-2009, 06:51 PM
I don't know about IT but you are going to a better place. Period. Bengaluru Rocks!!

I decided to move to india now. I have I140 cleared and having a permanent job. But enough is enough!
I started looking openings at india 2 weeks ago and most probably will get a offer from a US financial giant having IT shop at bangalore.

I think this is right decision at this time.

Any suggestions/feedback guys?

atul555
08-12-2009, 06:53 PM
...but what's up with growing vegetable...
Jai jawan jai kisaan...
j/k do whatever gives you pleasure..

EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

uma001
08-12-2009, 06:59 PM
Thanks man. My decision was mainly based on the waiting period. Within 4-5 years I can get ultimate post based on my experiance at india but here I have to be in same role.
Also I am trying to start my own IT training firm there so with gods on my side in 4-5 years that company can grow to a mid size firm.


Gaurav,may I know how many years of exp do you have?

maximus777
08-12-2009, 07:10 PM
EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

Completely agree with you here. Puts the quest for GC in perspective. Understand that everyone's situation is different, but is it really worth it to put your life on hold, that too based on the whims of USCIS?!? Just a thought. 10 years ago, the standard of living gap between India and US was so large, it made perfect sense. The gap isnt that huge any more. For some of us stuck in EB3, it could mean another 5-10 years wait. By then the gap would have closed some more. So looking back at that point in time will the sacrifices be worth it? Once again, there is no right or wrong answer, but just cant help wondering.

gauravsh
08-12-2009, 07:16 PM
Gaurav,may I know how many years of exp do you have?

sure, I am a database administrator with 12 years of experience. I am oracle certified -OCP DBA in 9i/10g and 11g.

potatoeater
08-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Gaurav,

How much salary does a 12 year IT experienced guy command in India?

Can you PM me the email addresses of your contacts. I will get in touch with them for a job for myself. I am quite serious.

Thanks

sure, I am a database administrator with 12 years of experience. I am oracle certified -OCP DBA in 9i/10g and 11g.

potatoeater
08-12-2009, 07:53 PM
Why so much emphasis on growing your own vegetables? :confused:

What crop should I grow? :confused:


EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

indyanguy
08-12-2009, 08:30 PM
Also I am trying to start my own IT training firm there so with gods on my side in 4-5 years that company can grow to a mid size firm.

Can you elaborate on your decision to start your own IT training firm (as opposed to a IT service provider)? I grew up in bangalore and there were a large number of training institutes back in the day. I am curious to know how your training firm is going to be different from others.

Thanks

senthil1
08-12-2009, 09:06 PM
That is the way green card processing works if they follow rules. The perm process is to test any candidates are available for the position. If they find a qualified person then that position will not be available. But still the company can process GC for another position if they are willing. Most companies used try to reject all the candidates to get a green card for a H1b person. But recession made the things worse. To change the situation either economy need to improve or Change the green card process. One of the option is change to point system with increase of Annual cap. That will take away the control from employers and chance of explotation is less. But point system got a negative response from Lawyers and employers.


Hydeboy is right.
My american employer rejected to file PERM after ads are posted. They were supposed to befiling in EB3 and they said they found candidates so they are not going to file green card...I am totally depressed..This is the true picture in almost all american companies. BEWARE of green card.

kart2007
08-12-2009, 09:20 PM
Why so much emphasis on growing your own vegetables? :confused:

What crop should I grow? :confused:

Potatoes, maybe.

But seriously growing your own vegetables is a fun activity. I have not done groceries in the last few months (exceptions being junk fast food, yoghurt etc). We grow vegetables all year round. In fact we have excess of most vegetables we grow. Try it, its a lot of fun!

And good luck to all EB2 and EB3 folks - we've seen good EB2 movement and we hope we'll see more movements in both EB2 and EB3 in the days to come. Till then, Happy gardening!!

cbpds
08-12-2009, 09:21 PM
Nice one, are u afraid of the last step?.......dying happily :) ==>DEATH !!

EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

kart2007
08-12-2009, 09:24 PM
EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.


Well said. Actually renting a "house" in a good place gives you a much better quality of living for a few bucks more, without the headaches and commitments (read green card) of mortgage, downpayments etc.

cgs
08-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Here you can get all:
FLCDataCenter.com (http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx)

Thanks for the link. I was able to locate my case details. :-)

Aah_GC
08-12-2009, 09:36 PM
EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

This is just about the single most sensible post ever on this site. This holds good for everyone, not just EB3. Having fun is a choice and can be excercised in all circumstances. Thank you for the reminder.

gauravsh
08-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Can you elaborate on your decision to start your own IT training firm (as opposed to a IT service provider)? I grew up in bangalore and there were a large number of training institutes back in the day. I am curious to know how your training firm is going to be different from others.

Thanks

Well, you know the quality of education which IT traning firm provide there. I will just focus on teaching OCP certification myself. mejority of institute just teaches oracle. They dont have enough expertise in teaching DBA knowledge.

gauravsh
08-12-2009, 10:02 PM
Gaurav,

How much salary does a 12 year IT experienced guy command in India?

Can you PM me the email addresses of your contacts. I will get in touch with them for a job for myself. I am quite serious.

Thanks

Just PM you. good luck

hiralal
08-12-2009, 10:21 PM
EB3 Guys,

Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.
good point ..for EB3 folks to invest any money in US in immovable assets when the status is in such a big big mess is like throwing HARDEARNED money away. sadly, There is NO hope in the horizon for EB3-I / C

kdubey
08-12-2009, 10:37 PM
Potatoes, maybe.

But seriously growing your own vegetables is a fun activity. I have not done groceries in the last few months (exceptions being junk fast food, yoghurt etc). We grow vegetables all year round. In fact we have excess of most vegetables we grow. Try it, its a lot of fun!

And good luck to all EB2 and EB3 folks - we've seen good EB2 movement and we hope we'll see more movements in both EB2 and EB3 in the days to come. Till then, Happy gardening!!

Looks like this will soon become gardening forum...:)

gauravsh
08-12-2009, 10:49 PM
potatoeater can be anyone. He has so many reds. You should always check out a person. Get his name and phone number to check him before giving him any personal information. Just my thoughts.

thanks man for concern, but nothing personal information was given. I am just trying to help a desi.

uma001
08-12-2009, 10:52 PM
Potatoes, maybe.

But seriously growing your own vegetables is a fun activity. I have not done groceries in the last few months (exceptions being junk fast food, yoghurt etc). We grow vegetables all year round. In fact we have excess of most vegetables we grow. Try it, its a lot of fun!

And good luck to all EB2 and EB3 folks - we've seen good EB2 movement and we hope we'll see more movements in both EB2 and EB3 in the days to come. Till then, Happy gardening!!

PotatoEater,

I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.

Honda
08-12-2009, 11:09 PM
PotatoEater,

I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.

Hi uma001

Why you don't fill all your details?

hebbar77
08-12-2009, 11:29 PM
I agree farming is fun! I did farming when I was young back in INDIA!

Recently I toured entire US except a few states by road. I saw people doing farming in huge lands like other professions. I saw one community from india owning lots of motels/hotels! To my surprise 20/25 motels we stayed were owned by people of indian origin and most were immigrants.
To all who claim to be stuck in GC queue I strongly suggest a US road trip. It will show you parts of USA which you have not seen as well as relax ur mind.

greenleaf81
08-13-2009, 03:26 AM
Guys I am strained with being my employer and making own food!

Please send all your excess farm Produce to me :D

BECsufferer
08-13-2009, 08:10 AM
I agree farming is fun! I did farming when I was young back in INDIA!

Recently I toured entire US except a few states by road. I saw people doing farming in huge lands like other professions. I saw one community from india owning lots of motels/hotels! To my surprise 20/25 motels we stayed were owned by people of indian origin and most were immigrants.
To all who claim to be stuck in GC queue I strongly suggest a US road trip. It will show you parts of USA which you have not seen as well as relax ur mind.

Agree... and this will also increase your awarness. It's a beautifull country and you will enjoy the diversity and resourcefulness. Go mid-west!

jsb
08-13-2009, 09:38 AM
Agree... and this will also increase your awarness. It's a beautifull country and you will enjoy the diversity and resourcefulness. Go mid-west!

The thread title is "Setpember visa bulletin is released". I went through several last pages, but didn't find any discussion about the September (or future) bulletins, though there is a lot of talk and personal experience descriptions on gardening. I liked it, of course.

uma001
08-13-2009, 09:53 AM
Hi uma001

Why you don't fill all your details?

What Details? I have mentioned in one of my posts here that my PERM has not yet been filed....No details regarding my green card processing.....Please read my posts to get more details on this.

jsb
08-13-2009, 11:42 AM
What Details? I have mentioned in one of my posts here that my PERM has not yet been filed....No details regarding my green card processing.....Please read my posts to get more details on this.

Admin need to add three more options to 'Processing Stage' info in the header, 'Not Yet Filed', 'Not Interested in GC', and 'GC Received'. N/A should be removed, as there is always some Processing Stage.

jsb
08-13-2009, 11:47 AM
What Details? I have mentioned in one of my posts here that my PERM has not yet been filed....No details regarding my green card processing.....Please read my posts to get more details on this.

Your public profile says that you are at I-485 stage. You might want to correct it.

potatoeater
08-13-2009, 12:29 PM
That is cool. By the way, do you have to pay lagaan to US govt, I mean taxes on your kheti-baadi?


PotatoEater,

I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.

potatoeater
08-13-2009, 12:43 PM
This constant pestering about filling up our profiles totally pisses me off. What exactly is the idea? That a person who is not waiting for a GC can't post in these forums? What if you are not even interested in GC? Or what if you are already a US citizen? Or may be just somebody happily living in Timbuctoo, and visiting these forums just for social networking? Is this site out of bound for them?

Give me a break guys.


Hi uma001

Why you don't fill all your details?

FinalGC
08-13-2009, 01:07 PM
potatoeater:

The objective of the people asking details is only to identify the anti-immigrants,which we have seen posting on this forum.

Please respect the rules of this forum. All are expected to fill details. I hope you understand the passion behind some of these replies.

kart2007
08-13-2009, 01:11 PM
I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.

Thanks for sharing. I am in California. I have about 1600 sq feet to grow our veggies. We use raised beds. I have grown everything you mentioned but could not get snake gourd (paduwal or podlanga). Where do you get the seeds from? I get seeds like Lauki (bottle gourd), Turai (Ridge gourd) etc from amazon. I was never able to grow cantaloupes and melons successfully.

September tomatoes will be ready to plant soon! Come October, cool season crops like spinach, dill, cabbage, broccoli etc will be planted.

Frederic
08-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Dear friends and fellow members at ImmigrationVoice,

Finally got the email today, Aug 13, 2009, from USCIS indicating that the card production has been ordered for me. No word yet about my wife's GC. Case still pending.

Relevant data for me:

India, EB2 - Priority date April 14, 2004
Texas Service Center.

Short of divulging my social security number, I will be happy to answer any and all questions about my journey so far.

Good luck to all of you.


Best Regards
Fred

NB to admins! If this is NOT the appropriate thread for this info, please let me know. I will remove this post. Right now this thread seems to have a lot of traffic and that's why I posted about my card process email here.

nocomment
08-13-2009, 02:37 PM
Congratulations!

Your PD is not current this month, how come they approved it?

Frederic
08-13-2009, 02:41 PM
Congratulations!

Your PD is not current this month, how come they approved it?

I am confused now!:D

I thought that with the Sept 2009 bulletin ( PD shifted to 01 Jan 2005 for EB2 India), my PD is current!


Am I missing something?


Best
Fred

Michael chertoff
08-13-2009, 02:46 PM
I am confused now!:D

I thought that with the Sept 2009 bulletin ( PD shifted to 01 Jan 2005 for EB2 India), my PD is current!


Am I missing something?


Best
Fred

Your PD will be current in next month september.

Enjoy. MC

sanjay
08-13-2009, 02:54 PM
I am confused now!:D

I thought that with the Sept 2009 bulletin ( PD shifted to 01 Jan 2005 for EB2 India), my PD is current!


Am I missing something?


Best
Fred

Of course Fred. Your PD will be current in next month September. So, they should be approving cases from Sept. 1 and not now.

Is TSC again playing a false sport as they did last year by consuming most of the numbers by giving GC to 2006 filers ?

It's actually more scary to me. May be again the deserving candidates will have to wait for another spill over next year.

Congratulations. No complaints for you, though.

pappu
08-13-2009, 03:05 PM
Dear friends and fellow members at ImmigrationVoice,

Finally got the email today, Aug 13, 2009, from USCIS indicating that the card production has been ordered for me. No word yet about my wife's GC. Case still pending.

Relevant data for me:

India, EB2 - Priority date April 14, 2004
Texas Service Center.

Short of divulging my social security number, I will be happy to answer any and all questions about my journey so far.

Good luck to all of you.


Best Regards
Fred

NB to admins! If this is NOT the appropriate thread for this info, please let me know. I will remove this post. Right now this thread seems to have a lot of traffic and that's why I posted about my card process email here.


Congrats.

Could you please update your profile with your dates to help others in the IV tracker.

shana04
08-13-2009, 03:36 PM
Dear friends and fellow members at ImmigrationVoice,

Finally got the email today, Aug 13, 2009, from USCIS indicating that the card production has been ordered for me. No word yet about my wife's GC. Case still pending.

.

Congrats!

geniousatwork
08-13-2009, 03:52 PM
Congrats!

vikki76
08-13-2009, 03:54 PM
Congratulations!!!. what was your Notice Date on I-485 receipt? There is a big thread going on about which date takes precedence
Dear friends and fellow members at ImmigrationVoice,

Finally got the email today, Aug 13, 2009, from USCIS indicating that the card production has been ordered for me. No word yet about my wife's GC. Case still pending.

Relevant data for me:

India, EB2 - Priority date April 14, 2004
Texas Service Center.

Short of divulging my social security number, I will be happy to answer any and all questions about my journey so far.

Good luck to all of you.


Best Regards
Fred

NB to admins! If this is NOT the appropriate thread for this info, please let me know. I will remove this post. Right now this thread seems to have a lot of traffic and that's why I posted about my card process email here.

dontcareanymore
08-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Dear friends and fellow members at ImmigrationVoice,

Finally got the email today, Aug 13, 2009, from USCIS indicating that the card production has been ordered for me. No word yet about my wife's GC. Case still pending.

Relevant data for me:

India, EB2 - Priority date April 14, 2004
Texas Service Center.

Short of divulging my social security number, I will be happy to answer any and all questions about my journey so far.

Good luck to all of you.


Best Regards
Fred

NB to admins! If this is NOT the appropriate thread for this info, please let me know. I will remove this post. Right now this thread seems to have a lot of traffic and that's why I posted about my card process email here.

Congratulations to you !!! The PD for EB2 India for Aug 2009 is "01OCT03". I am wondering how they processed your application.

Are you sure your PD is Apr 2004 , category EB2 and chargeability is India ?
Your PD will be current for the month of September.

Join date Jul2009 and only 4 posts. Hope this is not a joke :)

ruchigup
08-13-2009, 05:51 PM
Many congratulation !!! Njoy your freedom and peace of mind.

sk2006
08-13-2009, 06:49 PM
I am confused now!:D

I thought that with the Sept 2009 bulletin ( PD shifted to 01 Jan 2005 for EB2 India), my PD is current!


Am I missing something?


Best
Fred

Your PD is not yet current.
If they have issued GC to you, it was a mistake and you should report it to USCIS to avoid future problems.

There were several discussions on this forum about this issue.
Report to USCIS ASAP that you have been approved by mistake.

I thought with PD of 2004 by now you should be well aware of how Visa bulletins work. :confused:
Either you went into hibernation after filing for your GC back in 2004 or you are just faking your profile.

Frederic
08-13-2009, 09:45 PM
Congrats.

Could you please update your profile with your dates to help others in the IV tracker.

Pappu, hi!

Done.

BTW, what's with these accusations (not by you but by some other "senior members") doubting the veracity of my post?

Does a person have to have n number of posts before he is considered reliable?

Why should I fake my profile? What would I gain by it?

I am just trying to provide some data points for the tracking analysis and sheesh! the brickbats flying make me wonder if I should have posted this in the first place!

Anyways, I will try to answer any and all serious questions.

Best Regards
Fred

doggy
08-13-2009, 09:50 PM
Fred,
Congratulations!!

Just ignore the accusations. Two things here. Firstly, people are really frustrated here with all the GC stuff. Secondly, there has been lot of Anti-immigrants coming in and trying to disrupt the forums, making people inherently suspicious.

Enjoy your Green Card. Remember to support us lesser mortals in future. :p
-Doggy

sk2006
08-13-2009, 09:55 PM
Pappu, hi!

Done.

BTW, what's with these accusations (not by you but by some other "senior members") doubting the veracity of my post?

Does a person have to have n number of posts before he is considered reliable?

Why should I fake my profile? What would I gain by it?

I am just trying to provide some data points for the tracking analysis and sheesh! the brickbats flying make me wonder if I should have posted this in the first place!

Anyways, I will try to answer any and all serious questions.

Best Regards
Fred

Are you serious that you did not know how Visa bulletins work and did not know that September Visa bulletin dates would be effective in September? You mean since 2004 you did not care about Visa bulletins and dates?

sk2006
08-13-2009, 09:58 PM
Fred,
Congratulations!!

Just ignore the accusations. Two things here. Firstly, people are really frustrated here with all the GC stuff. Secondly, there has been lot of Anti-immigrants coming in and trying to disrupt the forums, making people inherently suspicious.

Enjoy your Green Card. Remember to support us lesser mortals in future. :p
-Doggy

As per him his GC is approved when his Priority date was not current.
This could mean trouble and he has to contact USCIS to correct the error.

kpchal2
08-13-2009, 10:19 PM
there were a lot of instances when people do not even know about the visa bulletin even thought they have applied for it a long time ago. especially when they are full time employees well taken care of by their companies. for those gc is just another entity.

having said that, that should not be a reason to get into trouble in future. will it effect him in the future or not and if so how is something that he should research with an attorney and make a conscious choice for himself.

on the contrary this is just another incident by USCIS to prove how big time a**h013$ they are. seriously idiots. how come they manage to do such stupid stuff. what can IV do to counter such issues. this is a serious problem and this could jeopordize some one for a mistake from uscis. as a software engg or a mech a engg or a doctor, we as customers should be doing minimal stuff from immigration side. we have better things to take care of. not a useful post but just venting out. sorry guys.

kpchal2
08-13-2009, 10:24 PM
also got the following response for a service request i put in. did not know what to make out of it - is it just a regular response or is this true

The status of this service request is:

A review of this case indicates that it appears to be outside of the normal processing times, however processing times that are posted on our internet website are approximate and not exact. This case is considered to be within our current processing time. USCIS is aware that according to the Department of State?s Visa Bulletin, there appear to be visas available however there has been an extremely large volume of case requiring visas. Therefore your category may have already reached the maximum amount of visas available, so please continue to watch the Visa Bulletin in the future to check for visa availability for your category.

I would be damned if they issued a visa bulletin after being aware of the fact that the visas are over. this is just to cause anxiety and stress to people waiting in the line and just playing with their emotions. this is something really horrible and we should take this very very seriously if those fuckin assholes are not doing their job appropriately.

Jim77
08-13-2009, 10:47 PM
Hi Guys.. need someone to answer my question, if possible. Thanks in advance.

My PD is Sep 2004 ( EB2 India ) and I was also July 2007 filer, and also the victim of my 485 being closed by USCIS nebraska in May 2008, which anyways got reopened within a month after supplying necessary documentation ( Approved I140 and moved to new company etc ) . I work on an EAD now. My question is

1) My AP is expiring in mid October. Should I file for a AP renewal and spend extra money ? Do I have a chance of getting GC in September ? Btw I was told last year at USCIS newark, NJ office that all the background checks and other things show clear on my case.
2) I moved my apartment 2 blocks away early this year, but my city and zip code are the same. If I file an AR11 ( change of address ) , will it raise any flags, since I have read on this forum that a change of address sometimes prompts an RFE. I am a bit scared of going through ups and downs, so I just feel like not doing anything which might create any kind of issue after so many years of pain.

Please give your insight. Thanks so much in advance !

seekerofpeace
08-13-2009, 10:51 PM
Just goes to show how screwed up USCIS is......I have Zero expectations from them and should be able to control my emotions and balance of mind on anything relating to them.

GC was a mirage and will remain one...

SoP

snddlth
08-13-2009, 11:23 PM
Can anyone provide me pointers to discussions on INFOPASS appointment? I've taken an appointment today and I would like to know your experience.

seekerofpeace
08-14-2009, 01:02 AM
Jim77,
I was under the same impression. I didn't want to change the address...but i did today....

If you do not change your address you will not receive any mails from USCIS as USPS does not forward "Return Service Requested" official mails. The reason being anyone can forward an address...and it may fall in wrong hands.

You will neither receive any notices like finger printing and neither will you be able to renew your AP or EAD when the time comes....since those will have your old addresses on file.

SoP

NolaIndian32
08-14-2009, 11:07 AM
Congratulations Fred!

My PD is 4/30/04 and I am anxiously waiting as well (since 2001 actually).

This is not an accusation on Fred in any way, but I just noticed that his Notice Date is 10/3/07, when the current processing dates for TSC are 8/23/07 - so this is yet another mystery of USCIS/TSC, one I doubt we will be able to solve anytime soon.

-Nola

geesee
08-14-2009, 12:56 PM
Currently NSC processing time for employment based 485 is 15th Sept. 2007... My notice date is 18th Sept. 2007 (based on case status shown on USCIS site)

Looks like I am going to miss my GC by 3 days and wait till next year :mad: I highly doubt that dates will stay at 2005 during next month bulletin.. (I truly hope I am wrong!)

BECsufferer
08-14-2009, 01:04 PM
Currently NSC processing time for employment based 485 is 15th Sept. 2007... My notice date is 18th Sept. 2007 (based on case status shown on USCIS site)

Looks like I am going to miss my GC by 3 days and wait till next year :mad: I highly doubt that dates will stay at 2005 during next month bulletin.. (I truly hope I am wrong!)

My PD is 12/04 and yesterday I learned they haven't even opened my case file. So for all these years it had been gathering dust. But that could be just my kismet and your might be different. Anyways, I am not looking for GC till 4th qtr 2010:cool:.

frostrated
08-14-2009, 01:08 PM
Hi Guys.. need someone to answer my question, if possible. Thanks in advance.

My PD is Sep 2004 ( EB2 India ) and I was also July 2007 filer, and also the victim of my 485 being closed by USCIS nebraska in May 2008, which anyways got reopened within a month after supplying necessary documentation ( Approved I140 and moved to new company etc ) . I work on an EAD now. My question is

1) My AP is expiring in mid October. Should I file for a AP renewal and spend extra money ? Do I have a chance of getting GC in September ? Btw I was told last year at USCIS newark, NJ office that all the background checks and other things show clear on my case.
2) I moved my apartment 2 blocks away early this year, but my city and zip code are the same. If I file an AR11 ( change of address ) , will it raise any flags, since I have read on this forum that a change of address sometimes prompts an RFE. I am a bit scared of going through ups and downs, so I just feel like not doing anything which might create any kind of issue after so many years of pain.

Please give your insight. Thanks so much in advance !
Jim77, it is highly advisable to apply for your EAD (if it is expiring soon), not neccessarily your AP if you do not intend to travel. You also will need to file your AR11, reason being any government communication is not forwared to the new address. If you were to be approved for the GC next month, it will not reach you as the post office will send it back to USCIS as undeliverable. Filing an AR11 will not trigger any RFE. Maybe if you changed cities, then it might coz there might be a concern on what status you were working on, like if you had an AC21 etc. but within the same zipcode, I dont think so.

jsb
08-14-2009, 03:01 PM
Currently NSC processing time for employment based 485 is 15th Sept. 2007... My notice date is 18th Sept. 2007 (based on case status shown on USCIS site)

Looks like I am going to miss my GC by 3 days and wait till next year :mad: I highly doubt that dates will stay at 2005 during next month bulletin.. (I truly hope I am wrong!)

Published dates are approximate dates for a ball park idea on where cases are for minimizing phone calls. If published date is Sep 8, 2007. It could have a very wide window of reality between (i) someone has looked at least one case of this date, or (ii) All cases upto this date have been seen. Most likely reality is close to first, as USCIS asks you to contact them if your 'receive notice date' is prior to the published date (suggesting that normally they expect all cases by the date should have been processed).

This suggests that there are cases with 'receive notice date' AFTER the published date, which have been opened. So, be optimistic, and hope for the best.

jsb
08-14-2009, 03:15 PM
Your PD is not yet current.
If they have issued GC to you, it was a mistake and you should report it to USCIS to avoid future problems.

There were several discussions on this forum about this issue.
Report to USCIS ASAP that you have been approved by mistake.

I thought with PD of 2004 by now you should be well aware of how Visa bulletins work. :confused:
Either you went into hibernation after filing for your GC back in 2004 or you are just faking your profile.

If your PD was current, but they didn't give you a visa, that is a mistake. Why should someone report getting a visa is a mistake? He applied for the visa, he/she got it. Is it his/her job to watch USCIS? What future problems should he/she expect for getting a visa?

Further, it is great mis-impression that everyone who applies for a GC watches visa bulletins, or knows how they work. I for one, knew nothing about visa bulletins, or EB1,2,3 etc. until the Washington rally. When my LC was filed, I only knew that my GC has been filed, and it would take years. At that time, even until recently, I never even expected a GC would come before I would decide to go back. There is a higher percentage of those who don't watch VB than those who do. I know many in my circle, who are waiting for GC but never bother about VB. Some don't even have emails. Perhaps VB watching is more prominent among computer guys.

uma001
08-14-2009, 04:43 PM
Your public profile says that you are at I-485 stage. You might want to correct it.

jsb, Thanks for pointing out, I do not know how it got there may be typo error.

uma001
08-14-2009, 04:44 PM
That is cool. By the way, do you have to pay lagaan to US govt, I mean taxes on your kheti-baadi?

I am already paying tax on my mortgage, I dont want to pay extra taxes for growing vegetables in my own backyard.

senthil1
08-14-2009, 06:14 PM
Petitions for U.S. worker green cards down sharply - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/employment/2009-08-06-green-cards_N.htm)

PD situation will improve in 2010 or 2011. The above news story will be one of the reason.

hiralal
08-14-2009, 10:55 PM
there is such a huge backlog for Indians that even the news above won't help much... overflow from family category has slowed down and previous recaptured visas are over ..the news that CIR has been delayed could be good as there is higher chance that there maybe some sort of relief ..other than that the situation is HOPELESS !!!

sk2006
08-15-2009, 04:25 AM
If your PD was current, but they didn't give you a visa, that is a mistake. Why should someone report getting a visa is a mistake? He applied for the visa, he/she got it. Is it his/her job to watch USCIS? What future problems should he/she expect for getting a visa?

It is your choice but there were suggestions from attorneys that if GC is issued when PD is not current, it should be reported to USCIS to avoid future troubles. Search this forum for details. There were two threads disucssing this.


Further, it is great mis-impression that everyone who applies for a GC watches visa bulletins, or knows how they work.
Yes. Not until the ass is on fire. Then they run to IV.

Some don't even have emails.
:eek::confused:

gcobsessed
08-15-2009, 05:13 PM
That the dates did not jump too much in September for EB2-I is probably good news as it may not retrogress in October or in the following months. Even if it did retrogress in december or january, I don't believe it will go back beyond mid 2004.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2sEgYzquRuE/SoTFPNVXWII/AAAAAAAACPI/E1xEdDUsYok/s1600-h/Cut-off+Date+Tracker.JPG

I have been tracking the cut-off date movements since the 2007 fiasco and plotting them graphically at My Blog (http://negamam.blogspot.com) which is also inserted above. As you can see, if you click on the image, EB2 dates have been very volatile, but the volatility is coming down over time. There has not been any instance in the past (except july 2007) when the dates moved significantly up one month and rapidly retrogressed in the next. Any significant movement forward has stayed at least for a couple of months, and potentially for 3-4 months or longer. So, October bulletin should have the same dates for EB2-I.

EB3, on the other hand, has been very predictable. It will be close to November 2001 in the October visa bulletin and inch up slowly.

uma001
08-16-2009, 09:35 PM
PotatoEater,

I grow different kind in my backyard. It all depends on the size of your backyard and which zone you live in states. I live in virginia. By this August end /september first week summer crop will end. I grow tomatoes(30 plants), Mint, snake guard, water melons (15 plants), cantaloupes(10 plants), carrots, okra, spinach , chillis. Its fun and hard work too. You need to dig the soil, mix with top soil or garden soil and cultivate it. Every week fertilize it. This is my first year gardening. I have around 3000 ft of back yard. i do not know what to do with that. I cannot maintain Lawn in back yard. So I decided to grow vegetables.
I am eagerly waiting for my fall garden..I am planning to grow tulips,beets,cilantro,carrots,potato,peas etc., If I can get same space for garden In India and work place just 3 miles from home , I can happily go back to India.

kart2007,

I got it from gardenweb.com long time back.

have: who did not get their snake gourd seeds yet? - Carolina Gardening Forum - GardenWeb (http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/carolgard/exch0203540615546.html)

sometimes I get it from ebay