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obviously
02-21-2007, 02:57 PM
Here are a series of flyers that you can print, publish and post to ensure increased awareness about our interests and issues.

PLEASE JUMP TO PAGE 2... *UPDATED VERSIONS* are on Page 2 ... there are 8 flyers!!
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obviously
02-22-2007, 12:31 PM
Would be good to know if these flyers are taking off... I have sent the content to lawmakers' offices. Please continue to do so, in the interest of creating interest and awareness.

The jargons and specifics around EB2/EB3, I-140, I-485, EAD etc are TOTALLY ALIEN (pardon the pun!) to those outside the Green Card process. Even those within the GC process tend to care about these *when it hits them hard*.

In speaking with a certain lawmaker's aid, he expressed frustration that immigration groups tended to contact them with claims that they had the "fix it" solution in hand. His suggestion was:
- You educate us on what the issues are are and why are important to the US
- We will explore ideas and options to resolve them
- Your ideas are welcome and appreciated, but dont push for those alone because YOU WILL ALIENATE us

FWIW, let us try using expand the context of these conversations so that we are able to appeal to different 'levels of interest and investment' that our audiences might have.

TWO THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND:
A. Tie-in to the PROUD HERITAGE OF IMMIGRATION is a core area that *most* US persons will recognize and respect. No one (in an important public role, at least) would go on record to tarnish this important piece of US history and heritage.

B. Reframe the dialog and keep educating folks why LEGAL IMMIGRATION IS THE ANSWER to job loss/outsourcing etc., it is not the cause. Why? Because high-talent and high-taxes remain in the US. Plain and simple. The alternative? Do nothing and high-paying jobs will flee the country,along with the taxes and investments. Plain and simple. Over long term the effect of a reverse brain drain is that NATIONAL COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE will be lost. It is an economic argument, Plain and simple.

If someone brings up notions of 'population control' etc., remind them, educate them that their theories are unfounded. Age old strategies of 'fear uncertainty doubt and fuzzy math' are fascist and have no place in a decent democracy. Shame on them. Not on you/us.

Fancy bar charts and graphs are only as good as the garbage fed into them.
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obviously
03-03-2007, 07:48 AM
...requires sustained communication... PLEASE print out and mail these to your lawmakers... to create increased and sustained awareness... dont wait and think "someone else will do"... every printout and mailing will make a difference... certain solutions cannot be "outsourced"!
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reachag
03-03-2007, 09:01 AM
Obviously, Very nice work. very creative. It would be good to add couple of sections one to clarify the myths about legal immigrants like dont pay taxes and another to show current average wait time for an EB applicant. We can cut down on the content in the middle for space. Also as earlier post pointed out, we need to have IV name.

Couple of flyers are slated towards Indians, even people from other countries are stuck with this issue and not only Indians. Personally i think the Discovery one is pretty neat, there is a mention about indians in that too, it would be good if we can make it generic.

Personally I think its a nice way to educate lawmakers and would work.

brij523
03-03-2007, 09:26 AM
Obviously,

Good effort. But can you tell how many flyer did you print and give to your friends? What effort you have made to contact your congressman, what effort you have made to contact your Senator, what effort you have made to contact media person? Do it Yourself. When you get lead to any of your effort, contact IV.
Just to let you know - I did download your flier.

If you write your success story people will follow.

varshadas
03-03-2007, 03:49 PM
When you meet Congressmen, you will be representing yourself as a member of IV. Also, you can hand out these flyers to potential members when you meet them. So IV's name has to be there. The NJ state chapter has created a 1 page flyer too. It has been uploaded in Volunteer->Flyer_2007 version (word file). We printed out this flyer on yellow paper and distributed them in railway station and temple.

You are free to use your own flyers, but please add IV's name.

Thanks,
Varsha

obviously
03-04-2007, 10:49 PM
These flyers are designed to be folded in 3's.

Experiment. Educate. Enjoy.

Obviously
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WaldenPond
03-04-2007, 10:55 PM
Hello Obviously,

Thank you for all the help. Your help has been very important in increasing the profile of our issues in various forums. Also, Thank you for helping with the flyers and posting them here so that forum members could use these flyers. With your permission we would like to add these flyers in the 'Resource' section of the website.

Regards,

obviously
03-04-2007, 11:01 PM
Macaca, thanks for that input and idea... another new one is being created right now based on your inputs :)!!

Admin, please go ahead and use/reuse.

All, please send other 'obvious' ideas and I am happy to try to churn out more flyers.

Obviously
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bkarnik
03-05-2007, 12:39 AM
Wonderful job...thats a neat one. Sure to grab attention. Thanks and keep up the good work.

MerciesOfInjustices
03-05-2007, 02:38 AM
Here is another brand new flyer... thanks to Macaca's idea

Obviously
Great job, obviously, very obviously.
Would like to point out - "chortle" means to "chuckle" or "A snorting, joyful laugh or chuckle". Did you intend to say "throttles choices"?

logiclife
03-05-2007, 03:03 AM
Thank you obviously. Very very nicely made flyers.

Actually, these are much more than flyers. This is something you can distribute as flyers but also put a cover page on the documents you give to lawmakers.

I am pretty sure we are going to slide a few of these in the documents we take to the congressional offices.

Also, all this can be also made a part of powerpoint if you take your laptop for a presentation in your meeting with your district's congressman.

Everyone: Please reward this by setting up meeting with your congressman in the upcoming recess. call their office now. Get an appointment. Get 2-3 people from your neighbors/co-workers and raise this issue. You dont need core group's help to do this, you can do this on your own.
Go to "Volunteer" Menu item and click on "Resourced for meet your lawmaker".

Take this opportunity. We have had nearly 4 meetings so far, including some IV volunteers in Bay area (Zoe Lofgren's office), New Jersey congressman of 9th district(correct me if I got that wrong) and a Senate's office in Altanta.

We need a lot more of these meetings to happen.

obviously
03-05-2007, 10:56 AM
Here are 5 flyers ... yes, would be a great idea to send them also as 'cover sheets' when mailing newspapers, magazines, lawmakers, think tanks etc.

When sending them out, do think about inking in your own handwriting "Plea to fix the employment based immigration system" (or something to that effect)

a. It personalizes each flyer being mailed out!
b. It draws immediate attention to the fact this is 'employment based'
c. A signature underneath that line makes it look less like a 'mass mailing' or 'form letter'

Obviously
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obviously
03-05-2007, 10:57 AM
It wouldnt let me upload more than 5 at a time. *UPDATED with IV logo*

The newer versions have lesser 'border graphics' to make it easier/ cheaper to print in color (less ink if you are using your own home printer)

Obviously
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pappu
03-05-2007, 11:52 AM
It wouldnt let me upload more than 5 at a time.

The newer versions have lesser 'border graphics' to make it easier/ cheaper to print in color (less ink if you are using your own home printer)

Obviously
I did not find IV name and logo in this one. It felt coming from competeamerica instead.

Having IV logo, website address in all at prominent location will help.

Thanks for your efforts. Eevery effort by a member helps this cause.

obviously
03-05-2007, 11:57 AM
Another new one uploaded.

(Updated "Made in the USA" version with IV logo etc. has been uploaded in prior posting)

Obviously
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obviously
03-05-2007, 01:49 PM
+ 1 More generic version
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perm2gc
03-05-2007, 04:54 PM
thks obviously

legalVoice
03-05-2007, 11:06 PM
Well all the Flyers are really great, but it will not make sense if we do not distribute them. If all of distrubute the flyers on same day that would create a big public awareness. If someone can organize the date that is great.

Everyone has a busy life and might not have time to distribute them or feel shy distributing flyers, so I suggest to just print and leave the flyers on the car wind sheilds in parking lots. If every member can put the flyers on 30 cars at their office location/public parking lot/train station parking lot that would be a good advertisement of the issues at hand. Distributing these flyers should not take more than 10 mins of time for 30 - 50 cars and everyone can get some excersise walking around there office/public parking lot.

obviously
03-06-2007, 11:26 AM
Folks, these flyers seek to articulate the desperation that many of us face in the current process. We keep reading about 100's of folks that are impacted. Yet, not more than 2 or 3 have committed to using these flyers?

I am not looking for statistical validation of efficacy. Just throwing out a thought that the arcane world of EB2, EB3, PD, EAD, etc are totally 'alien' to those outside the process. i.e., US citizens whose voice matters MOST in reaching out to THEIR lawmakers. For those who have been through the process and are on the 'other side', they couldnt care less about these, now that they are out of the clutches! (Its like asking someone to go back into solitary confinement!)

Influencing public policy and law making is a lengthy process of awareness, communication and education. Each small steps goes towards framing specific interests within the framework of larger interests.

So, please do take a minute, pick one, pick a few, or pick all the flyers that resonate with your underlying frustration, feeling and need that you need to communicate. And go to town with it.

Mutual empathy within the IV BBoards doesnt go too far, does it?

Obviously
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obviously
03-07-2007, 10:36 AM
Admins, please post 'quick links' to these PDFs from the Home Page/ other landing page. This would help folks quickly read and print out these 8 different messages. Having them embedded within a post could make them hard to find and use.

Obviously
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lvinaykumar
03-08-2007, 03:21 PM
Put them in indian stores... i play to do that today .....

obviously
03-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Thanks, that would be a good way to get more folks into IV!

If I may suggest, can you also find a way to get these to lawmakers' offices? Reality is that Indian stores' audience are those that share the pain, not the solution to the pain. The lawmakers' offices are staffed with policy analysts that go through this kind of stuff and help formulate various positions/ solutions that address the pain.

As someone with a public policy background, I can attest to the strengths of INFORMED public policy. Please folks, do have these messages go FAR and WIDE, not just NARROW and DEEP within ethnic communities impacted by current immigration issues.

But again, thanks for the Indian store initiative. It makes my day :)

Obviously
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obviously
03-15-2007, 10:26 AM
Let *mail these out* to *all lawmakers* in the next 1 week. It takes 5 minutes to print the PDFs, 5 minutes to stuff 'em envelopes and a grand total of $2.50 to mail to your respective lawmakers' offices.

Sure we can *all* spare 10 minutes TODAY to get this done!

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gdilla
03-15-2007, 01:03 PM
The jargon used in the flyers like EB and 485, etc, are foreign (no pun intended) to all Americans, including lawmakers (yes, they should know all this, but don't be surprised if they don't). We should make a very simplistic plain English version that the casual American and lawmaker can understand a lot better. There can be a link for more detailed/technical info like the flyer you have here. The hope is to "tug at the heart strings" a little, if you will, in the hopes of getting more Americans and lawmakers to take up the cause. There's lots of sad stories on IV, we can share these with the broader public.

Some ideas - With all the debate about illegal immigration dominating the news today, don't forget about the LEGAL immigrants who wait years, get separated from family, locked into grueling jobs for low pay, etc.

LEGAL immigrants who speak English, pay taxes, follow the LAW are stuck in limbo, can't see their families, who's spouses are barred from working, whose kids who are here legally can't get student loans or even work at McDonalds. Rather than break the law and live in the underground, these LEGAL immigrants out their lives on hold. etc

Followed by a "Did you know.." bullet list showing some of the hardships EBs go through. I'm not a good writer, so I can't make this sound as compelling as I'd like. What does everyone think?


We should emphasize the word LEGAL as much as possible, and intimate that making LEGAL immigration more sensible and easier, there would be LESS ILLEGALs in this country, and the country would have more control over who's coming and going, which is good for national security. Did you ever think that the reason that there are so many ILLEGALS here is thats its nearly impossible to come here LEGALLY! If American's realized that, then perhaps we could start changing some minds out there. Most American's have no clue about the immigration process. They think it's a snap to get into this country because maybe they know one or two immigrants in their lives. We have to reveal the truth.

obviously
03-15-2007, 01:29 PM
hi, thanks for your thoughts. Aliens and Fruits of Labor has less arcane information... and more narratives around personal pain points. Let me know if you have other specific examples of pain points (kind of cause:effect situation) and I can try to whip out one more theme-based flyer.

Obviously
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chanduv23
03-15-2007, 01:32 PM
I downloaded them and will distribute

legalVoice
03-19-2007, 02:16 PM
I will be distributing 60-100 Flyers today.
I distributed in a parking lot, I think it will not take more than 10 mins.

I think we need to inform all Masters students, they are not aware the problems which are awaiting in future for them.

legalVoice
03-19-2007, 02:18 PM
There so many IT companies in with so many Asian IT folks I believe there are alot of people in same boat but everyone is busy programming .....

Everyone has a busy life and might not have time to distribute them or feel shy distributing flyers, so I suggest to just print and leave the flyers on the car wind sheilds in parking lots. If every member can put the flyers on 30 cars at their office location/public parking lot/train station parking lot that would be a good advertisement of the issues at hand. Distributing these flyers should not take more than 10 mins of time for 30 - 50 cars and everyone can get some excersise walking around there office/public parking lot.

legalVoice
03-19-2007, 02:29 PM
I keep the printouts in my car and every where I park in a parking lot, I keep one printout on the car next to me.

Well onething is sure, most of the people who visit this site are
Lazy
or
Shy

They need to remember if they cannot help themselves no one will.

No job is permanent, they need to get a GC to secure their future.

pappu
03-19-2007, 10:51 PM
Another thing that I do:

Take printouts of http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=36

the flyer is a word file and print several copies and keep it in your car. When you go for shopping, groceries, temples, etc... keep them in your hand and if you see someone like you .. (South Asian, Asian...) there is a chance they maybe retrogressed.

Give them the flyer.

Sometimes you will be pleasantly surprised to meet other fellow IV member and will make new friends.

Try this. It worked for me.

obviously
03-21-2007, 02:00 PM
hi... i see between 25 and 89 views for these flyers. Please take a moment to read ALL flyers... they are all different and may hence appeal to different kinds of needs.

For those meeting with lawmakers, consider taking printouts PLEASE

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3361&page=2

Obviously
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baladev
04-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Hi
All we need is the attention of the media to boost up the gravity of the whole GC issues. May be some one can contact and request the media like CNN or MSNBC to propagate the current issues of H1 and green card immigration for better resolution. This may not solve at least help to create awareness for those who dont know.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?35

my $0.02

- Dev

pappu
04-10-2007, 03:27 PM
Hi
All we need is the attention of the media to boost up the gravity of the whole GC issues. May be some one can contact and request the media like CNN or MSNBC to propagate the current issues of H1 and green card immigration for better resolution. This may not solve at least help to create awareness for those who dont know.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?35

my $0.02

- Dev
Yes we definately need help in this area. Media has not covered us enough. Please see some posts in
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3980
and help us. Get in touch with the others on the thread and together lets contact every media office in this country.

handsome_man20740
04-13-2007, 01:07 AM
Hi,

I have written to some senators and also Hillary now that she is running for presidency. Everyone of us can do our bit by contacting our local senators and writing to them about how we do contribute to the economy, how we dont do any criminal activities and how we pay taxes on time and help create other jobs and make US no 1.

Then we should ask them that legislations or pressures should come from ther side in order for us to keep contributing and "Realizing the American dream".
I have heard sympathetic comments and also promise of help but lets see.

Why dont all of you search in Yahoo, google about local senators and their contact emails and send them this information. They will aprreciate it and will try to help

Rather than cribbing lets do it en masse. Buggers move your asses or stick your asses to your chair for 10 years waiting. Its your choice.

I am posting the same message in other forums too.

handsome_man20740
04-22-2007, 03:23 AM
Folks,

go to the AILA site. and make this query as shown below. They have also started something similar and the idea as i expressed in my previous post is to contact congress about this problem. They also have a sample letter on this search.

http://www.aila.org/search/default.aspx?searchterm=green+card

Murthy.com is also doing something similar but folks we need a lof of people to come forward and kinda pester these senators and law makers, trying to impress the idea of contribution of foreigners.

http://www.murthy.com/news/n_morh1b.html

At least everyone can send an email to the senators.

Thanks
-H

h1bmajdoor
04-22-2007, 09:12 AM
Yes we definately need help in this area. Media has not covered us enough. Please see some posts in
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3980
and help us. Get in touch with the others on the thread and together lets contact every media office in this country.

when i read the indian papers they are gushing over how quickly the h1 quota got over and that indians will get more than 80000 of the quota.

someone has to start telling the truth on h1. what happens when they get here? what happens when the companies destroy their career and they want to change a job?

what happens when 80000 indians are applying for GC which only allows 10000 indians to get an employment GC per year?

we got screwed (at least, i did) by the sweet lies spread about h1. should we allow the same to happen to innocent youngsters from our country? should we exact the price of entry from innocent people? if we do, then we are creating bad karma for ourselves.

http://h1bmajdoor.blogspot.com

h1bmajdoor
04-22-2007, 09:16 AM
Hi,

Rather than cribbing lets do it en masse. Buggers move your asses or stick your asses to your chair for 10 years waiting. Its your choice.



america works on zero sum thinking. to do well you have to screw someone. that is why slavery was so popular here.

the sad thing is, when indians get green card what do they do? do they _ever_ raise their voice with politicians? do they ever try to raise the issue of other h1s who are suffering?

very, very rarely.

http://h1bmajdoor.blogspot.com

obviously
05-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Folks, THIS IS THE TIME TO GET THESE FLYERS OUT... PLEASE TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO REVIEW, PRINT AND POST THEM ASAP!!!!

Obviously
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obviously
05-29-2007, 12:23 PM
There are 8 full color flyers in PDF format ..on page 2 of this thread ... there should be at least one message for each type of person stuck in this mess

Aliens.pdf
Apply.pdf
Discovery.pdf
Equality.pdf
FruitsOfLabor.pdf
ItAllAddsUp.pdf
LimitationNation.pdf
MadeInUSA.pdf

Find your voice through these posters!

Obviously
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obviously
05-29-2007, 01:01 PM
Please save these under the section where you have other flyers and mailers so that it is easy for folks to access and work with.

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