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gc_chahiye
04-19-2007, 11:15 PM
can someone tell me (PM if you dont want it on a pubic board) what went wrong with SKIL Bill last year? Where did it fail (senate/house?) did it just get dropped, or went up for vote and did not make it?

Googling around, and am not able to find anything...

eb3India
04-19-2007, 11:39 PM
simple answer, many of us did'nt to do what it takes to get a legislation passed,

how much did you contribute this year to IV in terms of monetary and efforts, how many senators did you call and voice your support

zCool
04-19-2007, 11:44 PM
All of us might have gone wailing in streets and still it would have been the same thing..
What happened last yr? in a word.. Senator Jeff Sessions from Alabama..
He's bought and paid for by racist anti-immigrant interest groups and no way he was going to be convinced based on merits of the argument!

sanju
04-19-2007, 11:59 PM
can someone tell me (PM if you dont want it on a pubic board) what went wrong with SKIL Bill last year? Where did it fail (senate/house?) did it just get dropped, or went up for vote and did not make it?

Googling around, and am not able to find anything...


Nothing went wrong with SKIL bill. Neither did SKIL bill fail. We computer programmers think that the world is built around Boolean logic 1/0, true/false, pass/fail, right/wrong. In politics most of the stuff is "in-between".

Every year many bills get introduced and only a small faction (less than 2%) are taken up for discussion/vote in the congress. Some bills pass in one house and are not taken up in the second house of the congress. Some bill pass both houses but they do not go to conference committee. A bill could be termed as “failed” if it has been voted down a majority vote in at least one house of the congress.

Last year (just like this year) key lawmakers wanted to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill which means, everything related to immigration subject will be done in one bill. So SKIL bill was introduced but it could not be scheduled for discussion and vote in the congress. ‘Introducing” a bill simply means that a bill was registered with the one house of the congress and a bill number was allocated to that bill, that’s it. It is then the job of the majority leader in the Senate and Speaker of the House to put the bill in the calendar/schedule for discussions and, up or down vote. SKIL bill was never put on the schedule of either of the two chambers of the congress. Most articles suggested that if the SKIL bill was put on schedule all by itself, this bill would have easily passed with the majority vote. But key lawmakers did not want a separate bill for each category. They want a comprehensive bill which includes reforming employment based, nurses, family based, diversity lottery, refuges, undocumented and anything “immigration” under the sun. That is why SKIL was never discussed and voted on the floor of the congress. SKIL bill was made of the comprehensive immigration bill S.2611 that passed the Senate last year. So SKIL bill was passed by the Senate. Then there were drastic differences between the House and Senate version of the immigration bill. House version of the immigration bill border wall and enforcement only bill and House majority leadership was not ready to do any negotiations on the bill passed by the Senate. By July-August of 2006, Republican leadership decided to use “immigration” as an election platform to energize their base. So they did not want to take up a bill to fix the problem. Republican leadership in the House wanted the issue to be there so that they would go back to their base and scare voters with the “illegal alien” election platform. So in the end nothing happened. After the elections, after Republicans lost the majority in the House and the Senate, Republicans lost the need/leadership to address the immigration issue and Democrats announced to address this in the 110th Congress so that they could take up the credit for solving the problem. So for all practical purposes, nothing actually happened on immigration issue or SKIL bill.

This year too, SKIL bill is very unlikely to go anywhere all by itself. We all have to wait for the compressive immigration reform bill to pass or die. No one knows by when comprehensive bill could be considered as dead this year. Several times I have talked with my congressman’s office and they have told me that SKIL could be considered by itself only if key lawmakers know that comprehensive immigration bill is no longer possible. They never fail to add that this is a pure speculation and no one can predict how it will all unroll and we just have to wait for the things to happen in next few months. Sometimes they have also said that if comprehensive bill fails, there may not be any bill till 2009. My congressman’s office did say that we should continue to talk to other lawmakers to tell them about our problems and a need for an immigration bill.

Hope this answers your question.

485Mbe4001
04-20-2007, 02:04 AM
gc_chahiye, if you want gc_chahiye then call and talk to your lawmaker. Last year only a handful of them knew about the problems related to skilled immigration. Today many more recognize our issues, but a lot more is needed.

We cannot assume that all the lawmakers know what 'EB' or 'Retrogression' means, if you want a GC then take the first step of empowering yourself by calling your lawmaker and educating them about this mess. Try it, you will thank yourself.


We all have powerful human interest stories, discussing them on forums will provide stress relief for a short time. Discussing it with people that matter will make a bigger difference.

can someone tell me (PM if you dont want it on a pubic board) what went wrong with SKIL Bill last year? Where did it fail (senate/house?) did it just get dropped, or went up for vote and did not make it?

Googling around, and am not able to find anything...

gc_chahiye
04-20-2007, 02:06 AM
Hope this answers your question.

wow! that was such a great description of all the events. Very nice! thanks a lot.

To the previous poster: yes, I am going to be more active this time, both in terms of contributing as well as calling my local lawmakers. Cant let history repeat itself!