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md_alien
06-22-2007, 12:35 PM
There is a post on immigration portal from a user who took Infopass to check I-485 status today. Was told by the Immigration Officer (IO) that the EB quota for this year has been exhausted. :eek: Don't know how true this is. But anyone out there having a similar experience. Also if someone has a scheduled Infopass appointment for today or tomorrow can you pls. confirm with IO on the EB quota.

Immigration portal post link http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=254529

Thanks,

Gravitation
06-22-2007, 12:43 PM
This does make sense though.

The only question is whether they'll make all the dates "U" now. They can change the visa bulletin anytime, despite the popular belief to the contrary. I hope they don't change it though, so that people can at least file their I-485's.

It was nice while it lasted.

tnite
06-22-2007, 12:48 PM
The questions is wheter USCIS will change the dates even before they start accepting 485's for july?

RLNY122004
06-22-2007, 12:51 PM
Please verify with the person which EB3 catagory he/she belongs to. I have a feeling that he belongs to other worker category which became unavailable in mid of June.

here is the quote from immigration-law

06/16/2007: Unskilled Worker EB Category Visa Exhausted Even in June 2007

This is a truly bizzare news. AILA has reported that State Department had advised the the USCIS that the EB-3 Other Worker category had been exhausted., and based on this advice, thedUSCIS HQ has informed the Texas Service Center and the Nebraska Service Center to reject EB-3 Other Worker I-485 applications even though the June Visa Bulletin shows visa availability. It is indeed a double blow news to the Unskilled Worker community. AILA is looking into legality of this action.


There is a post on immigration portal from a user who took Infopass to check I-485 status today. Was told by the Immigration Officer (IO) that the EB quota for this year has been exhausted. :eek: Don't know how true this is. But anyone out there having a similar experience. Also if someone has a scheduled Infopass appointment for today or tomorrow can you pls. confirm with IO on the EB quota.

Immigration portal post link http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=254529

Thanks,

abracadabra
06-22-2007, 12:54 PM
Hope they don't make it unavailable before july 15. Anything can happen, this drives me crazy

md_alien
06-22-2007, 12:57 PM
The original poster in immigrationportal was from EB2 category. Thats waht I could make out from his/her signature.

venky08
06-22-2007, 01:02 PM
This does make sense though.

The only question is whether they'll make all the dates "U" now. They can change the visa bulletin anytime, despite the popular belief to the contrary. I hope they don't change it though, so that people can at least file their I-485's.

It was nice while it lasted.

Dont try to scare people's pants off...
check this following link to the visa bulletin and read the part E. they would need to get at least two months worth of application to maximize use of unused visa numbers per their report...

geez...


http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3258.html

E. EMPLOYMENT-BASED VISA AVAILABILITY DURING THE COMING MONTHS
All Employment Preference categories except for Third “Other Workers” have been made “Current” for July. This has been done in an effort to generate increased demand by Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS) for adjustment of status cases, and to maximize number use under the annual numerical limit. However, all readers should be alert to the possibility that not all Employment preferences will remain Current for the remainder of the fiscal year. Should the rate of demand for numbers be very heavy in the coming months, it could become necessary to retrogress some cut-off dates for September, most likely for China-mainland born and India, but also possibly for Mexico and Philippines. Severe cut-off date retrogressions are likely to occur early in FY-2008.

GotGC??
06-22-2007, 01:04 PM
The original poster in immigrationportal was from EB2 category. Thats waht I could make out from his/her signature.

Could you pls post that link?

md_alien
06-22-2007, 01:05 PM
See my original post, the first one in this thread.

Could you pls post that link?

eb3India
06-22-2007, 01:08 PM
Please stop spreading rumors, there are plenty of visas available, everybody is calling USCIS and IO s are sick of phone call and they are giving any reason to get us off their back

fact is everyone is getting approvals and it will keep coming until they clear all the backlog.

I spoke to Immigration specialist our local senator office, she confirmed that they are going to clear all the backlog by end of fiscial year

venky08
06-22-2007, 01:12 PM
There is a post on immigration portal from a user who took Infopass to check I-485 status today. Was told by the Immigration Officer (IO) that the EB quota for this year has been exhausted. :eek: Don't know how true this is. But anyone out there having a similar experience. Also if someone has a scheduled Infopass appointment for today or tomorrow can you pls. confirm with IO on the EB quota.

Immigration portal post link http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=254529

Thanks,
you kidding me ...the quota has to be exhausted to begin with...how much is it somewhere around 8,000 visas right? USCIS needs to get as many applications as possible in next two months to come to a realistic understanding of how many people are there in the line waiting for GC. Since outstanding Labor Certificates does not tell jack@#$! about how many people from each country are on the waiting list. Making the priority date current is a better way for the USCIS to correctly formulate the priority dates for the future use. if they stop taking application in the middle of july, then that defeats the very purpose of why they are doing this excercise in the first place...

small2006
06-22-2007, 01:17 PM
:mad: Don't mean to be offensive but please...before you post something like this and scare the crap out of people, do some research and make sure its credible information. Talk to your attorney and get some clear cut answers instead of getting 10 points of view from 5 different people with partial knowledge. After we are not attorneys and what we know is from forums like this and many others.
Thanks

a_yaja
06-22-2007, 01:22 PM
Until someone posts the actual memo, it is difficult to say which visa #s they were talking about. While the person in the post may have said EB, the guys at the IO could have heard it as "Other category" and hence concluded that no more visas are available.

Without the actual memo, nothing can be said for certain. Like I mentioned in one of the posting in this thread before, unless USCIS has already approved 40K+ visa numbers between when they released the memo on June 12th and today, I don't see how the numbers are already over. Remember, the number is consumed when the application is approved and not when the application is submitted.

senthil1
06-22-2007, 01:26 PM
India quota 9800 might have finished. But I think there is a rule that unused other country quota can be used for oversubscribed countries(I am not sure but I heard). If that is correct then PD will be current atleast till Sept.


Until someone posts the actual memo, it is difficult to say which visa #s they were talking about. While the person in the post may have said EB, the guys at the IO could have heard it as "Other category" and hence concluded that no more visas are available.

Without the actual memo, nothing can be said for certain. Like I mentioned in one of the posting in this thread before, unless USCIS has already approved 40K+ visa numbers between when they released the memo on June 12th and today, I don't see how the numbers are already over. Remember, the number is consumed when the application is approved and not when the application is submitted.

qtoask
06-22-2007, 01:27 PM
updating here that you or someone you know has approved I485 as of today...

lets get over this. Does it make sense?

calidesi77
06-22-2007, 01:29 PM
I agree posts like these should be verified before posting. There is so much misleading information on these boards and good information I am sure. I usually try to follow information from credible posters which helps weed out fake and misleading information

ChainReaction
06-22-2007, 01:50 PM
I agree posts like these should be verified before posting. There is so much misleading information on these boards and good information I am sure. I usually try to follow information from credible posters which helps weed out fake and misleading information

I think the dates will be current till August31st and worst case scenario will be till July30

I have a question in the next fiscal year Oct onwards when the predicted retrogression kicks in, what will be the cut off dates for INDIA EB2 and EB3
since we are seeing approval with PD from 2001 to 2003 with the exception of people stuck in BRC I don't know the PD for people who are stuck there ... I am assuming the dates will move at least by 2004 for EB2 and 2003 for EB3??

ramus
06-22-2007, 01:53 PM
I won't be surprised if they make everything 'U'.... But I don't belive all these rumers. No IO going to tell you inside information. Lets pray that nothing will happen in next 8 days.. Plus you can't control USCIS. Just be calm and watch and look for any new update.

raju123
06-22-2007, 01:55 PM
This do not make sense to me due to two reasons;

1. Various sources confirmed that there are 60 to 70K visas available as on June 1, 2007 for current fiscal years. It is practically impossible to process 70K I 485 in just 20 days.
2. Based on visa available for last quarter of Fiscal year (July to Sept 2007) and approvable I 485 cases, they made decision to current all categories. Certainly they have less number of approvable I 485 than the visa number available in EB3 ROW/India/China and EB2 India.

I know, the level of knowledge of infopass officer. So please do not panic unless have some confirm news.


There is a post on immigration portal from a user who took Infopass to check I-485 status today. Was told by the Immigration Officer (IO) that the EB quota for this year has been exhausted. :eek: Don't know how true this is. But anyone out there having a similar experience. Also if someone has a scheduled Infopass appointment for today or tomorrow can you pls. confirm with IO on the EB quota.

Immigration portal post link http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=254529

Thanks,

arihant
06-22-2007, 01:59 PM
I think the dates will be current till August31st and worst case scenario will be till July30

I have a question in the next fiscal year Oct onwards when the predicted retrogression kicks in, what will be the cut off dates for INDIA EB2 and EB3
since we are seeing approval with PD from 2001 to 2003 with the exception of people stuck in BRC I don't know the PD for people who are stuck there ... I am assuming the dates will move at least by 2004 for EB2 and 2003 for EB3??

If you are referring to India, don't bet on it. A large portion of people stuck in BEC could not apply for 485 until June because of retrogression. Many of the approvals you are seeing are for people who cleared labor before BEC. If you see their RD or ND, you will see that it says 04 or older. BEC did not come into being until March 05. Estimates are that several hundred cases were sent to BEC for transferring with PDs as old as 2001.

So, it is possible that tens of thousands of EB2 and EB3 India applicants would have applied in June and July of this year for 485. So, can we predict the Retrogression date based on all this? Nope. Let us hope that USCIS can figure this out more accurately in the coming months since they have now allowed everyone with an approved labor to apply.

ramus
06-22-2007, 02:03 PM
I thought they said they have 40,000 visas that could waste if they don't move dates forward-- not 60/70000.

Second I am sure there are tons of cases which are ready for approval.. Even though when visa is not available they will keep all process going . They won't just approve it. So when visa becomes available then they just need to approve that case. So I won't be surprised if they approve 40,000 visas in 18 days.

But again this is just rumer and I don't belive unless I see official news..


This do not make sense to me due to two reasons;

1. Various sources confirmed that there are 60 to 70K visas available as on June 1, 2007 for current fiscal years. It is practically impossible to process 70K I 485 in just 20 days.
2. Based on visa available for last quarter of Fiscal year (July to Sept 2007) and approvable I 485 cases, they made decision to current all categories. Certainly they have less number of approvable I 485 than the visa number available in EB3 ROW/India/China and EB2 India.

I know, the level of knowledge of infopass officer. So please do not panic unless have some confirm news.

arihant
06-22-2007, 02:05 PM
This do not make sense to me due to two reasons;

1. Various sources confirmed that there are 60 to 70K visas available as on June 1, 2007 for current fiscal years. It is practically impossible to process 70K I 485 in just 20 days.
2. Based on visa available for last quarter of Fiscal year (July to Sept 2007) and approvable I 485 cases, they made decision to current all categories. Certainly they have less number of approvable I 485 than the visa number available in EB3 ROW/India/China and EB2 India.

I know, the level of knowledge of infopass officer. So please do not panic unless have some confirm news.

1) They are not processing them in 20 days. They are just approving cases filed in the last 3 years which were ready for approval but were just waiting for availability of Visas.

2) It may be true that they do not have enough approvable cases...but this is not because there are not that many cases already pending...it is just that name check is delaying the approval of many cases and so USCIS wants to make it current and try and use up all the visas for this year rather than waste it like last year. In other words, they want to ensure that the supply of approvable cases (not total pending cases so far) would match or exceed the number of visas left for the rest of the year.

venky08
06-22-2007, 02:11 PM
i am sick of all these people using their brains to come up with the reasonings...go eat some cheetos...and sit on a couch...and watch a movie or something...stop the discussion and end the panic attacks...:mad:

desi3933
06-22-2007, 02:17 PM
There is a post on immigration portal from a user who took Infopass to check I-485 status today. Was told by the Immigration Officer (IO) that the EB quota for this year has been exhausted. :eek: Don't know how true this is. But anyone out there having a similar experience. Also if someone has a scheduled Infopass appointment for today or tomorrow can you pls. confirm with IO on the EB quota.

Immigration portal post link http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=254529

Thanks,

Thanks for the chuckle. ;)
It does not deserve anything more!

Take it easy.

Not a legal advice.
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gc_chahiye
06-22-2007, 02:32 PM
The questions is wheter USCIS will change the dates even before they start accepting 485's for july?

also, the fact that everything became C only applies from July 1st right? So as of today the priority dates (ie. the cases that they can approve) are from whatever dates were in the June bulletin. EB3-ROW was retrogressed, so no rollover to China/India. Which means that India has probably hit its limit (9800).

So potentially we still have 25-30K unused visa numbers, and come July 1st, when EB3-ROW is current, India can exceed its annual limit and they can continue to process more applications.

So IO could be right with everything except the Oct 1st part. July 1st is when more visa numbers should be available for using.

same_old_guy
06-22-2007, 02:42 PM
EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM :
PLEASE DO NOT SPREAD RUMORS ! WE ARE ALREADY STRESSED AS IT IS. WE DONT NEED ONE MORE RUMOR LIKE THIS RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF LOGIC TO SUPPORT IT, PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, FOR GOD'S SAKE !

IF YOU ARE FEELING INSURED, HELPLESS AND WITH NO CONFIDENCE - JUST REMEMBER, ALMOST EVERYONE IS FEELING THE SAME. JUST DONT HIT THE PANIC BUTTON BASED ON NOTHING, PLEASE !

JUST FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR LAWYER AND MAKE ALL THE DOCUMENTS READY TO FILE AS SOON AS YOU CAN. THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO ! IF SOMETHING HAPPENS LET IT HAPPEN. NO NEED TO LIVE IT THRU TWICE, ONCE NOW AND ONCE IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
PEACE.

raju123
06-22-2007, 02:53 PM
OMB's prediction of 40K visa waste, if they approve at current rate. 40K + 25K visa of last quarter. This means min 65K visas were available for last quarter.

I thought they said they have 40,000 visas that could waste if they don't move dates forward-- not 60/70000.

Second I am sure there are tons of cases which are ready for approval.. Even though when visa is not available they will keep all process going . They won't just approve it. So when visa becomes available then they just need to approve that case. So I won't be surprised if they approve 40,000 visas in 18 days.

But again this is just rumer and I don't belive unless I see official news..

senthil1
06-22-2007, 02:58 PM
First up all even PD is backdated or visa unavailable it should happen in VB. If it happens then it will happen from august if July VB indicates that. How can it happen in the middle of the month?

EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM :
PLEASE DO NOT SPREAD RUMORS ! WE ARE ALREADY STRESSED AS IT IS. WE DONT NEED ONE MORE RUMOR LIKE THIS RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF LOGIC TO SUPPORT IT, PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, FOR GOD'S SAKE !

IF YOU ARE FEELING INSURED, HELPLESS AND WITH NO CONFIDENCE - JUST REMEMBER, ALMOST EVERYONE IS FEELING THE SAME. JUST DONT HIT THE PANIC BUTTON BASED ON NOTHING, PLEASE !

JUST FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR LAWYER AND MAKE ALL THE DOCUMENTS READY TO FILE AS SOON AS YOU CAN. THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO ! IF SOMETHING HAPPENS LET IT HAPPEN. NO NEED TO LIVE IT THRU TWICE, ONCE NOW AND ONCE IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
PEACE.

senthil
06-22-2007, 03:05 PM
i heard from my attorney that they have never seen visa-dates gets changed or ( go back ) in middle of a month so far as they know. so was thinking people have breather whole july 07. anyone / any pointers ?

dan19
06-22-2007, 03:34 PM
EB Dates are determined by the Department of State (DOS) not USCIS.

So I don't think an IO in USCIS can have this info.

InTheMoment
06-22-2007, 03:45 PM
First of all I would not jump to classify this as pure rumor, it was first hand information from the guy who spoke to an IO (unless he was lying !!)

DoS controls visa number issuance no doubt, but remember it also updates the status regularly to USCIS.

More than anything I feel it might have been a case if misunderstanding. The IO might be referring to EB3 Other workers which got exhausted mid of June or the guy might have misunderstood something else the IO said..multitudes of possibilties....so let us put our energies elsewhere....whatever be the case let us continue with our plans :D

naving
06-22-2007, 04:04 PM
EB Dates are determined by the Department of State (DOS) not USCIS.

So I don't think an IO in USCIS can have this info.

This is a TRUE statement. State dept decides the dates not USCIS. You can check both state dept site and USCIS to confirm this.

md_alien
06-23-2007, 09:56 AM
See more ppl reporting about their Infopass experiences. All had IO telling them that EB visa numbers have been exhausted.

http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=254350

http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=254368

http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=254539

Links courtesy nayaks on immigrationportal

Don't know what to make out. While date on which the visa nos. exhausted does not seem to match but all are consistent that EB nos. have vanished.

Widget
06-23-2007, 10:48 AM
Is the person from India or RW?




There is a post on immigration portal from a user who took Infopass to check I-485 status today. Was told by the Immigration Officer (IO) that the EB quota for this year has been exhausted. :eek: Don't know how true this is. But anyone out there having a similar experience. Also if someone has a scheduled Infopass appointment for today or tomorrow can you pls. confirm with IO on the EB quota.

Immigration portal post link http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=254529

Thanks,

sumansk
06-23-2007, 10:53 AM
If you look at the link provided on the experiences of people , they are all EB-3 and might be they are other worker category.Thsi is true for them in July bulletin.please DONOT generalise it for EB-1 and 2.

paskal
06-23-2007, 11:14 AM
EB numbers are released by quarter
the last quarter numbers will only be released July 1
the year's quota cannot be exhausted
but everything available SO FAR can be exhausted

lvinaykumar
06-23-2007, 11:26 AM
I think i will agree with the last post... Thanks

BMS1
06-23-2007, 11:39 AM
The first link of the above three threads was for EB3 and he says that dates were current from June. It cannot be other workers since his PD 04/2003 was not current in June for other workers category. The poster (hopeforgc) was a veteran of 670 posts there. So some respect for this being truthful is certainly needed. The original thread (the fourth such thread) was from a person (INeedSomeHelp) who was of EB2. People even claim they saw the memo. Many claim that they were told that next available date Oct 2007 which means that quota for the year is over. Four different people report first hand information here from different officers. So this is no rumor (though we can wish so).

caydee
06-23-2007, 12:08 PM
Is some kind of game being played with EB applicants while the senate decides on CIR?

akred
06-23-2007, 12:09 PM
DOS has 40,000 visas available and USCIS has 92,000+ I485 already pending. Even though this is enough to consume all visas for this year and a large number of visas in the next year, USCIS/DOS expect that some of these available visas will be wasted even with all dates being current due to slow processing from USCIS.

According to my company's lawyers, this information was given out at the AILA conference on June 14.

mallu
06-23-2007, 12:26 PM
The visa numbers can be exhausted in any day of the month ( assuming, that many approvals happened to deplete quota of the year ) , so they stop approving I-485s. But they should continue to accept applications as per the latest visa bulletin that got published. Then, in the following bulletin they can put whatever cut-off dates they want.

gc_chahiye
06-23-2007, 01:56 PM
The visa numbers can be exhausted in any day of the month ( assuming, that many approvals happened to deplete quota of the year ) , so they stop approving I-485s. But they should continue to accept applications as per the latest visa bulletin that got published. Then, in the following bulletin they can put whatever cut-off dates they want.

says who? When EB3-Other workers when U this month, USCIS was also asked to stop accepting applications.

raju123
06-23-2007, 02:13 PM
This make sense.



DOS has 40,000 visas available and USCIS has 92,000+ I485 already pending. Even though this is enough to consume all visas for this year and a large number of visas in the next year, USCIS/DOS expect that some of these available visas will be wasted even with all dates being current due to slow processing from USCIS.

According to my company's lawyers, this information was given out at the AILA conference on June 14.

gc_chahiye
06-23-2007, 02:30 PM
EB numbers are released by quarter
the last quarter numbers will only be released July 1
the year's quota cannot be exhausted
but everything available SO FAR can be exhausted

seems correct.

Rather than making all visa numbers available at the beginning of each fiscal year and then having a period of unavailability, visa number allotments must be spread throughout the year. Therefore, in each of the first three quarters of every fiscal year, the DOS can only release up to 27% of the available visa numbers per category, per quarter.
http://www.murthy.com/news/n_dosebn.html

also backed up by the state department itself:
Section 201(a)(2) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that not more than 27 percent of the Employment-based annual limit may be used in each of the first three quarters of a fiscal year.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_2007.html

But the surprising part is they have used up 27*3=81% of visa numbers. So of the 40K number reported in May, that would have gone waste, 14K are already used up, there are only 26K remaining and they will probably wrap them up by the end of July.

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Having said that, atleast in 2005 EB3 had gone Unavailable in the July Bulletin, which would not make sense if the visa numbers were split across quarters. So more USCIS uncertainty and illogical moves. Dont know what they do and how they do it. Just pray that they accept your I485 in time.

rahulpaper
06-25-2007, 10:43 AM
I am still a beginner in this process here are my questions...IF anyone can answer, i will greatly appreciate.

1)If visa "approval" means use of visa number..why is application accepted by date? Applications accepted this year are never processed within this year and if they are processed next year they eat into next year visa numbers?

2) how many visa number are avialable for each category for each country? if it is by country why is DOS bulletin released with dates for India /China /ROW. Are visa numbers cross chargable in ROW(between country one and country two)?

Thanks in advance

royus77
06-25-2007, 11:16 AM
I am still a beginner in this process here are my questions...IF anyone can answer, i will greatly appreciate.

1)If visa "approval" means use of visa number..why is application accepted by date? Applications accepted this year are never processed within this year and if they are processed next year they eat into next year visa numbers?

2) how many visa number are avialable for each category for each country? if it is by country why is DOS bulletin released with dates for India /China /ROW. Are visa numbers cross chargable in ROW(between country one and country two)?

Thanks in advance

As per the current system, Visa number will be assigned only if it reaches a stage for approval .

For the second question check " United nations " id answers in the immigration dot com forum .

EkAurAaya
06-25-2007, 11:47 AM
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html

Why is July bulletin already archived? is it normal for them to archive current bulleting?

gc_chahiye
06-25-2007, 11:58 AM
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html

Why is July bulletin already archived? is it normal for them to archive current bulleting?

yes, Bulletins are archived as soon as they are published.

caydee
06-25-2007, 12:04 PM
yes, Bulletins are archived as soon as they are published.

Their phone system still plays June Bulletin message..............

sriramkalyan
06-25-2007, 12:10 PM
I think this topic has to be deleted ...

Ho "" Visa No are exhausted " its sickening ..

Bunch are scared people ..

a_yaja
06-25-2007, 12:27 PM
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html

Why is July bulletin already archived? is it normal for them to archive current bulleting?
Also, you will see that the link is the same - from both "Current Bulletin" link and "Archived Bulletins".

Nothing new about it.