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chanduy9
07-03-2007, 03:20 PM
How many sending flowers on JULY 10TH....give the order# too if you can..

Let us call it as FLOWER DAY!!

Order # FNM1314828 from ftd

Here is the address:

Select Occasion: "Sympathy"

Edited by Moderator:
Quote:
"Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
[ first-name last-name ] - An employment based immigrant.



Delivery location type is Business, US Citizenship and Immigration Service

Address:

Emilio T. Gonzalez
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20001

krishnam70
07-03-2007, 03:25 PM
Ok

chanduy9
07-03-2007, 03:43 PM
this is to track how many sent the flowers..so that by the end of the day we will know how many sent, no need to count in all the threads...

Pls send flowers..it may help us.

dtekkedil
07-03-2007, 03:51 PM
FNL1782679

From FTD.COM

sanjay
07-03-2007, 04:55 PM
just ordered on proflowers.com. costed me 29.99. to be delivered on Delivery: Tue, 7/10/2007.


TO,
The Honorable Emilio T. Gonzalez
Director U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20529

delhirocks
07-03-2007, 05:54 PM
Flowers sent...;)
Flowers sent for Jul10th delivery...

Step 7: Order Confirmed
Your Order Confirmation: EGONZA0xxxx
You will receive a confirmation e-mail at xxxx@yahoo.com shortly.
Please be sure to check all of your email folders in case your receipt is filtered out of your main inbox by your email software or settings. Print Continue Shopping Sign Out

ORDER ID:
EGONZA0xxxxx
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company:
Address: 20 Massachusetts Ave Northwest

Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: All the best for future Employment Based
visa estimates

Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DELIVERY DATE:
Tuesday, July 10, 2007

DELIVERY TYPE:
Express Delivery

alien4ever
07-04-2007, 03:30 AM
FNL1782679

From FTD.COM

Order # FNL1783668 from ftd.com

cygent
07-04-2007, 04:11 AM
[QUOTE=sanjay]just ordered on proflowers.com. costed me 29.99. to be delivered on Delivery: Tue, 7/10/2007.

Don't mention the cost. Any1 with girlfriends/others knows the cost is atleast 20$.... Please do not be cheap. Heed my advice. Think the big picture. If you dunno what it is... ask me, send PM. Nirvana.

anda007
07-04-2007, 04:23 AM
How many sent the flowers....give the order# too if you can..

Reply By Anand Sharma - Longmont Colorado
Order # FNM1314828 from ftd
Here is my details of the order -->

Order # FNL1783677

Deliver on: Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007
Delivery by: FedEx®, DHL® or UPS®
Deliver to: Emilio Sanchez
Business
US Citizen and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue,
NW
Washington, DC 20529
US
2023071565
Occasion: Get Well
Gift Message and Signature: Dear Mr. Sanchez Thanks for giving us hope for few hours on July 1st and taking it away. We enjoyed the ride and the pain. Hope USCIS recovers from its insanity soon. Hope you Get well soon Regards A Legal Immigrant


Sweetheart Mixed Rose Bouquet
- F488 $ 24.99
Service Charges $ 13.99
Taxes $ 0.00

Subtotal $ 38.98

english_august
07-04-2007, 02:28 PM
Can the owner of this thread please have just the following:
1. A single post containing the basic information about delivery name, address, message, occassion, and delivery date.
2. Just the poll to track the number of people who've sent flowers.

Then we should just start sending emails to friends with the link to that thread.

Please let us make this work. I will try and see if I can alert some media people about this. We need at least 100+ bouquets to make this work. Lets move fast.

dtekkedil
07-04-2007, 08:01 PM
Can someone with a paypal account come forward and take over a fund? Anyone with a paypal account can donate any amount using a nickname and we can publish the nickname along with the amount donated on this thread. That way we have accountability and also have a better idea of how many flowers we can send. That person with the paypal account can then order the flowers on Saturday by the latest.

Others, if they want, can send the flowers on their own also.

Just a suggestion... If we can do this, I believe more people will come forward!

Anyone who has donated to IV should be able to do this...

drona
07-04-2007, 10:53 PM
To Emilio Gonzalez, to arrive on July 10th, sweetheart roses :) order number # FNM1316478 by FTD.

english_august
07-05-2007, 01:11 AM
Hey Friends -

We need to keep a track of the number of flowers being sent. So if you are sending flowers, then make sure that you respond appropriately to the poll in this thread. It is very difficult to go through all the posts individually to figure out the total count.

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 12:22 PM
Hi,


Please reply to the post with order#..so that the thread will be alive and on top so that no one miss.

I am planning to send the e-mails to the media regarding the FLOWER DAY...JULY 10TH.

Please share your ideas.

Thanks,
Chandra.

arrarrgee
07-05-2007, 01:04 PM
any reason y we are sending these flowers?? On the line of 'Lage Raho.' (An Indian movie where the protogonist preaches non violence and sends flowers instead)...

gcseeker2002
07-05-2007, 01:10 PM
My flowers reach friday , let me see if i will get a "thank you" from those a****les

arrarrgee
07-05-2007, 01:33 PM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EG92A

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio T. Gonzalez
Company: US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: I pray to GOD to give you the strength to get
the EB Visa Predictions right in the
future...
A July EB applicant

Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:

gcfordesi
07-05-2007, 01:42 PM
ORDER ID:
ESANCA0EG93G
RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Sanchez
Company: USCIS
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: All the best for future Employment Based
visa estimates

Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:
DELIVERY DATE:
Tuesday, July 10, 2007
DELIVERY TYPE:
Express Delivery

reachinus
07-05-2007, 01:52 PM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EG957

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez Thanks for giving us
hope for few hours on July 1st and
taking it away(I-485 Reversal). We
enjoyed the ride and the pain. Hope
USCIS recovers from its insanity soon.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:

Gravitation
07-05-2007, 01:59 PM
Thanks to all those who sent flowers! Won't it be nice if they got 100's of flowers and that it becomes a famous news in the media!!

If the mainstream media catches this, it'll be great! It has the potential to go viral!

Can we set a target of sending flowers from 500 people! and then do a media drive on it!!

What do people say?

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 02:09 PM
Thanks to all those who sent flowers! Won't it be nice if they got 100's of flowers and that it becomes a famous news in the media!!

If the mainstream media catches this, it'll be great! It has the potential to go viral!

Can we set a target of sending flowers from 500 people! and then do a media drive on it!!

What do people say?


We need your help to get 500 people. Please send the flowers and spread this to your friends.

Thanks,
Chandra.

glen
07-05-2007, 02:11 PM
Flowers sent to Emili Gonzalez. Order# C1002322797 to be delivered on July 10th.

priderock
07-05-2007, 02:12 PM
Are you guys sure that Emilio Gonzalez is not on vacation or taking a day off that day ??

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 02:16 PM
Are you guys sure that Emilio Gonzalez is not on vacation or taking a day off that day ??

The main moto is to get the media and public atten. Do you think if he is there, he will change the VB asap because of your flowers......:D

Common guys...this is on way telling them our feelings and how much pain we have taken....

Think +ve.

Just my idea.

acecupid
07-05-2007, 02:55 PM
We are trying to mock their actions and doing it in a unique and peaceful manner which is bound to get media attention since its so unique. I hope the number of flowers in enough to grab media attention.:D

dtekkedil
07-05-2007, 03:05 PM
We will each individually send flowers to Emilio Gonzalez to be delivered July 10th. There is a suggestion to use a paypal account where we contribute money. However no one has come forward to take over the account so far.


The theme of the note attached to the flowers should be Sympathy or Get well.

Preferred Message(Sympathy): All the best for future Employment Based visa estimates

I do like the "Get Well: Hope USCIS recovers from its insanity" message as well

July 07th - Last day to mail flowers (I doubt if they can deliver on Tuesday if we order on Monday)
July 08th - Draft the letter to be mailed to media.
July 09th - Finalize the letter and mass mail it to every media email addresses we have.
July 10th - hope the media take the bait!

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 03:15 PM
saying "I love you Emilio" for screwing up my I-485 app.


Please dont wait for any one...just send the flowers on JULY10TH.

Thanks,
Chandra.

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 03:32 PM
any reason y we are sending these flowers?? On the line of 'Lage Raho.' (An Indian movie where the protogonist preaches non violence and sends flowers instead)...


We are doing it in a nice way...Join us.

amitjoey
07-05-2007, 03:36 PM
Thanks to all those who sent flowers! Won't it be nice if they got 100's of flowers and that it becomes a famous news in the media!!

If the mainstream media catches this, it'll be great! It has the potential to go viral!

Can we set a target of sending flowers from 500 people! and then do a media drive on it!!

What do people say?

you are going to have to do a simaltenous media drive, writing that flowers are scheduled to be sent on the 10th of July. Please cover. So they would be ready to publish, when the time comes.

vjverma
07-05-2007, 03:39 PM
My message to keep the tempo up and clear all GC backlog. Hopefully this enthusiasm to address applicant's pain did not end on July 2nd itself.

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 03:45 PM
you are going to have to do a simaltenous media drive, writing that flowers are scheduled to be sent on the 10th of July. Please cover. So they would be ready to publish, when the time comes.


pls see plan of action in the same thread. If you haven't send the flowers, please send the flowers and join us. Spread this to your friends too.

Thanks,
Chandra.

dtekkedil
07-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Hey Chandra can you add the plan of action into your first post on this thread? Add the address and message etc too. So that people don't miss it.

amitjoey
07-05-2007, 03:54 PM
send flowers for 9.99 with a special coupon
http://www.teleflora.com/feature.asp?srccode=goog&promotion=PSGTMTF

also
http://ww21.1800flowers.com/dataset.do?dataset=10565&cm_mmc=tagged-_-na-_-na-_-na&bannerBeacon=true

amitjoey
07-05-2007, 04:00 PM
People are talking about the flowers to USCIS Campaign.

http://me2rai.blogspot.com/

newbee7
07-05-2007, 04:06 PM
Order # FNM1317745



Deliver on: Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007

Deliver to: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
US Citizen and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Ave Northwest
Washington, DC 20529
US
202-307-1565

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 04:12 PM
Hey Chandra can you add the plan of action into your first post on this thread? Add the address and message etc too. So that people don't miss it.

Added plan of action, the address and msg already there...let me know if you want me to add any.

Thanks,
Chandra.

blue_line
07-05-2007, 04:15 PM
ORDER ID:
ESANCA0EGA8D

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Sanchez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Ave Northwest
NW
Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: Thank you for the wonderful 15
days(current visa bulletin).. Now we can
get back to our pathetic life
-A Legal Immigrant waiting in line for 9
years
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:

drona
07-05-2007, 04:17 PM
Wonderful message blue_line! Thanks for showing your support!

(oh and the correct name of the USCIS head is Emilio Gonzalez)

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 04:25 PM
Hi,

Who initially not willing to send flowers, they can change their mind at any time and send the flowers on JULY 10th. Please join us, we may get good response from media.

Just post your order#.

PLEASE THINK +ve.

we are FOUR short to 50

Thanks,
Chandra.

krishjack
07-05-2007, 04:37 PM
Where do you get the special coupon?

send flowers for 9.99 with a special coupon
http://www.teleflora.com/feature.asp?srccode=goog&promotion=PSGTMTF

also
http://ww21.1800flowers.com/dataset.do?dataset=10565&cm_mmc=tagged-_-na-_-na-_-na&bannerBeacon=true

dtekkedil
07-05-2007, 04:42 PM
Added plan of action, the address and msg already there...let me know if you want me to add any.

Thanks,
Chandra.

Thanks Chandra!

GooblyWoobly
07-05-2007, 05:01 PM
Just an idea, if someone can spend some time near the office videotaping flower arrivals, we can do a piece on youtube. It can potentially get more media attention if the media does not catch up immediately.

amitjoey
07-05-2007, 05:04 PM
Where do you get the special coupon?

On top of the website.

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 05:05 PM
Just an idea, if someone can spend some time near the office videotaping flower arrivals, we can do a piece on youtube. It can potentially get more media attention if the media does not catch up immediately.

Media will not loose NEWS..please send the flowers and spread it to your friends,media will come automatically when there is a news. we will discuss the plan of action on 9th.

Thanks,
Chandra.

jonty_11
07-05-2007, 05:08 PM
Media will not loose NEWS..please send the flowers and spread it to your friends,media will come automatically when there is a news. we will discuss the plan of action on 9th.

Thanks,
Chandra.
Lets concentrate on Iv action items..This is not an IV endorsed effort.

dtekkedil
07-05-2007, 05:11 PM
Just an idea, if someone can spend some time near the office videotaping flower arrivals, we can do a piece on youtube. It can potentially get more media attention if the media does not catch up immediately.

Good backup plan!

But anyone video taping the USCIS office can get arrested... security issue u see! Someone could setup a camera pointing at the entrance. I do not know the legality of that! If this could be done without harm... then it is good!

chanduy9
07-05-2007, 05:13 PM
Lets concentrate on Iv action items..This is not an IV endorsed effort.

I respect what IV is doing...sending flowers is not crime or illegal...we are trying to tell our feelings and how much pain we have taken.

We are one short of 50

Thanks,
Chandra.

dtekkedil
07-05-2007, 05:17 PM
Lets concentrate on Iv action items..This is not an IV endorsed effort.

This is probably not endorsed by IV. But the idea is to support one of the efforts endorsed by IV!

One of the IV endorsed effort is creating a media blitz. Our hope is that this will work towards creating that media interest!

jonty_11
07-05-2007, 05:22 PM
See page 2; Pappus comment on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6104&page=2

It may serve us well to be united under one umbrella - that is IV.

Immi_Nightmare
07-05-2007, 05:26 PM
This is a great idea , but then DOS overturned the USCIS decision (hence the letter to Mike Chertoff and Condy of DOS from one the Congresswoman) . Shouldn't the flowers go to one of these guys ???

dtekkedil
07-05-2007, 05:26 PM
See page 2; Pappus comment on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6104&page=2

It may serve us well to be united under one umbrella - that is IV.

Err... that was about "no work day"... Our agenda is to support one of IVs agendas.. attract media attention. So even if IV does not endorse the method... we are still supporting what IV is attempting to do!

jonty_11
07-05-2007, 05:28 PM
Err... that was about "no work day"... Our agenda is to support one of IVs agendas.. attract media attention. So even if IV does not endorse the method... we are still supporting what IV is attempting to do!
I guess only IV can clear this

pappu...can u confirm ?

dtekkedil
07-05-2007, 05:31 PM
This is a great idea , but then DOS overturned the USCIS decision (hence the letter to Mike Chertoff and Condy of DOS from one the Congresswoman) . Shouldn't the flowers go to one of these guys ???

All bulletins are published by DOS. Same is the case with the July bulletin. However in this case, it was information from USCIS that forced DOS to reconsider!

Do you expect anyone to believe that when it takes one year to give 140, 000 visas... this time they managed to give 60, 000 visas in ONE month?? If something is fishy, it is at USCIS!

prashantkh
07-05-2007, 07:02 PM
Order Number: FNK1819608


Order Date: Thursday 07/05/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
US Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
USA
2023071565

saraiks
07-05-2007, 07:21 PM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EGB88

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizenship and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW

Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: All the best for future Employment Based
visa estimates!
The current one screwed my life up but
who cares.. Have fun!!

Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DELIVERY DATE:
Tuesday, July 10, 2007


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DELIVERY TYPE:
Express Delivery

jonty_11
07-05-2007, 07:26 PM
no count in faster than yes count..

smisachu
07-05-2007, 08:16 PM
Type: "Get Well Soon"- with a big balloon
Order#W00552500721005
From: 1-800-Flowers
Message:
Only a very sick mind can play such games with our lives. We wish you all the best in predicting the next visa bulletin and pray to god to have mercy on your soul. Regards, A victim of July 2nd Visa scam!

For July 10th.


I wish we can somehow capture the delivery on film. The reaction will be worth the while. Also someone needs to tip off the media to be there.

delhirocks
07-05-2007, 08:20 PM
Thats a pretty harsh message in my books...

Type: "Get Well Soon"- with a big balloon
Message:
Only a very sick mind can play such games with our lives. We wish you all the best in predicting the next visa bulletin and pray to god to have mercy on your soul. Regards, A victim of July 2nd Visa scam!

For July 10th.


I wish we can somehow capture the delivery on film. The reaction will be worth the while. Also someone needs to tip off the media to be there.

prinive
07-05-2007, 08:22 PM
Can we have some tieup with some flower delivering company? Like, for each floer ordered by IV member, some percentage will be donated to IV. But the point is every one from here will order the flowers through them. Any thoughts?

amitjoey
07-05-2007, 08:47 PM
Can we have some tieup with some flower delivering company? Like, for each floer ordered by IV member, some percentage will be donated to IV. But the point is every one from here will order the flowers through them. Any thoughts?

That is a nice thought, if you know anybody that will donate the money to IV please let us know. (Pun intented). :D

amitjoey
07-05-2007, 08:49 PM
The media needs to know, I do not have any idea how.

english_august
07-05-2007, 09:09 PM
The media needs to know, I do not have any idea how.
Media will know - if we get enough numbers. I am already in touch with a couple of journalists but the critical thing is to get a good number to make a media event out of it. The current poll shows 53 Ayes and 124 Nays - well that's not going to cut it. We need more people to order tomorrow otherwise delivery window for Tuesday morning will be shut off.

Immi_Nightmare
07-05-2007, 09:09 PM
Guys, any reason why we have a whopping 70% of the members not interested in contributing to this idea??
There is nothing illegal or offensive in a humble protest, so why the lack of interest?? Are you worried that you'll be pulled up for a humble protest?
It's not even that expensive to send a bunch of flowers. We have to come together and do something here to implore the USCIS to reform the immigration process. Just lurking around , and not doing anything about this is not going to bring about any reforms to this dysfunctional system.

I would love to know the rationale behind your lack of interest. Appreciate if you can speak up as to why you wouldn't want to join in. Atleast let us know if you have a better idea. Doing nothing and playing the wait-and-see game is probably the worst option.

prinive
07-05-2007, 09:32 PM
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Where do you get the special coupon?

legal_alien_007
07-05-2007, 10:29 PM
Good idea.. definitely worth a try

Just sent some

chanduv23
07-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Please contact IV core before you do these kind of campaigns. While it is understandable that most IV members are enthuiastic and want to contribute in all possible ways, at this time, it is essential to do it in the most effective way. Please come up with innovative ideas and discuss them with core before you start campaigns

gc_aspirant_prasad
07-05-2007, 10:42 PM
Guys, any reason why we have a whopping 70% of the members not interested in contributing to this idea??
There is nothing illegal or offensive in a humble protest, so why the lack of interest?? Are you worried that you'll be pulled up for a humble protest?
It's not even that expensive to send a bunch of flowers. We have to come together and do something here to implore the USCIS to reform the immigration process. Just lurking around , and not doing anything about this is not going to bring about any reforms to this dysfunctional system.

I would love to know the rationale behind your lack of interest. Appreciate if you can speak up as to why you wouldn't want to join in. Atleast let us know if you have a better idea. Doing nothing and playing the wait-and-see game is probably the worst option.
I am waiting for someone from IV core to endorse the idea.

chanduv23
07-05-2007, 10:50 PM
I am waiting for someone from IV core to endorse the idea.

This was discussed in a conference call with core today - a bunch of flowers may not even reach the intended person. Such a campaign may look good in movies only.

The concept of IV is to communicate in the most effective manner. Do please come up with innovative ideas - and see how best we can utilize them.

Do not open new polls and threads for these activities.

english_august
07-05-2007, 10:55 PM
I am waiting for someone from IV core to endorse the idea.
Please contact IV core before you do these kind of campaigns.

I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.

I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.

If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.

So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.

chanduv23
07-05-2007, 11:01 PM
I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.

I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.

If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.

So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.



Well no one wants to spend $20 to contribute to IV but ready $30 for flowers and post it to Gonzalez :)

The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.

english_august
07-05-2007, 11:21 PM
The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.

I think this campaign can be pretty effective if we want it to. This idea is not totally outlandish. If you recall, recently fans of the CBS series Jericho sent nuts to the office of CBS when that series was discontinued.

Sometime back, Indians in the UK sent thousands of unstamped letters to their postal department, protesting a stamp that hurt their religious sentiments.

Those campaigns worked and so can this. All we need is a little bit of enthusiasm!

Immi_Nightmare
07-05-2007, 11:31 PM
Folks ,

Thousand if not millions of us are affected by DOS's reversal of the visa bulletin, and it would be quite a protest even if 20% of us joined together and raised our voice against this ill-fated system.

Obviously, a lot of us have been adversely affected emotionally and monetarily by this unprecedented knee-jerk reaction by DOS. A lot of our plans have gone completely astray and we again seem to be staring aimlessly at an uncertain future with very little hope in sight.

What's even worse is none of the elected representatives have bothered to question DOS's action except Congresswoman Lofgren . Immigration seems to have become a joke to our lawmakers(Wonder why Jay Leno hasn't picked on it yet) . We most certainly deserve to be treated much more gracefully than as use-and-throw commodities.

There was never a time when people had to wait for years togther without seeing any progress on their GC applications. Call it unfortunate , but our times have seen one set back after another for something which used to be a routine part for every legal (and highly skilled at that) immigrant's career in the United States. In fact, besides a good university system, it was this country's receptive immigration laws which brought us here in the first place and now immigration in US has become one of the most difficult hurdles to overcome.

Modern day immigrants have done so much to empower American economy and enrich the society as well in many subtle ways. A lot of us hold important and responsible positions in our respctive firms and having permanent residency would immensely help us do our jobs more efficiently. We have left a lot behind in search of a better life,we have put in every effort to adapt to the culture and lifestyle of this country and have even turned a blind eye to ocassional racist remarks or prejudices . Inspite of going through all this, little did we imagine that one day we would even have to question if going back to where came from is actually a better option merely owing to a rigid immigration system. Eventhough times have changed and many other countries seem to have a more successful immigrationn system than the US, our administration still hasn't woken up from it's slumber.

Sure, we all were very well aware of the KKK days or "Dot Buster" days of the 80s before coming here but then we surmised that these were threats from asinine sections of the society who were completely ignorant of how we were directly or indirectly beneficial to their own well being, but we always felt hopeful that the administration was in favor of immigration and would help us become a part of the American society. Only after coming here did we realize that the administrators were as uninformed about immigration as the perpetrators of KKK or "Dot Buster" to the extent that they sometimes did not know the difference between legal and illegal immigrants. The issue of immigration was so badly ignored that a reform was actually long due even before the additional delays of 9/11 came into effect. Well, now with the unprecedented reversal of the July bulletin by DOS , the system seems to have completely fallen apart.

As mentioned before, we certainly deserve to be treated more gracefully but for that we have to raise our voice against this disfunctional system and alert the seemingly ignorant administrators towards our plight. Politely but firmly! We have waited patiently, but how much longer should we endure this while we are treated as simpletons in a stick-and-a-carrot game??

I have added my 2 cents by opting to send flowers to the USCIS to be delivered on July 10th. I am not claiming this to be the best approach , but it certainly seems to be a novel approach. Atleast it doesn't offend anyone, cause extra hassles to the local administration in maintaining order during a protest and doesn't need you to take time off from your work. And no! I'm not endorsing this idea on behalf of the florists association of america(if at all there is something like that) . I'm in no way affiliated to the florists and stand to gain nothing if you ordered from them!

We would love to know if you have a better idea, but I think it's imperative that we all rasie our voice in unison against this system.

english_august
07-06-2007, 12:01 AM
Thousand if not millions of us are affected by DOS's reversal or the visa bulletin, and it would be quite a protest even if 20% of us joined together and raised our voice against this ill-fated system.


Well said. Just think of this flower drive as a way to display our collective might to the media. What really shocks me is that most of us are tech savvy and yet we don't even see too many blog posts on this issue by the community of skilled, legal non-immigrants.

We need to be more vocal, and sending flowers is just another way of expressing our thoughts.

franklin
07-06-2007, 12:42 AM
Well said. Just think of this flower drive as a way to display our collective might to the media. What really shocks me is that most of us are tech savvy and yet we don't even see too many blog posts on this issue by the community of skilled, legal non-immigrants.

We need to be more vocal, and sending flowers is just another way of expressing our thoughts.

This is true, I assume that everyone here has also participated in the media, funding and lawmaker meeting drives?

shx
07-06-2007, 01:59 AM
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Washington,DC 20529


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Delivery Date 07/10/2007


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drona
07-06-2007, 04:05 AM
People are writing about our Gandhigiri. See the following links:

http://desicritics.org/2007/07/06/004733.php

http://www.touchdownusa.org/node/11



Keep sending your flowers to USCIS!

eager_immi
07-06-2007, 08:03 AM
Not everybody is afraid of sending flowers. I think you might end up getting a 2 min coverage from one channel nothing more. I find this whole thing pointless. You can yell and scream but you asked for my opinion.

Guys, any reason why we have a whopping 70% of the members not interested in contributing to this idea??
There is nothing illegal or offensive in a humble protest, so why the lack of interest?? Are you worried that you'll be pulled up for a humble protest?
It's not even that expensive to send a bunch of flowers. We have to come together and do something here to implore the USCIS to reform the immigration process. Just lurking around , and not doing anything about this is not going to bring about any reforms to this dysfunctional system.

I would love to know the rationale behind your lack of interest. Appreciate if you can speak up as to why you wouldn't want to join in. Atleast let us know if you have a better idea. Doing nothing and playing the wait-and-see game is probably the worst option.

prinive
07-06-2007, 08:58 AM
I guess since this idea didnt come from core group, they are not supporting it. Go ahead folks.

mjdup
07-06-2007, 09:13 AM
I think this is a great idea, good way of protesting being submissive and also strong being a strong critic, I'm ordering my set of flowers...

I don't think IV core will oppose this idea..

english_august
07-06-2007, 09:49 AM
No the core group doesn't oppose or endorse the idea. If you like the idea then go for it.

As for the media coverage, I was talking to a reporter last night and he agreed that this was a very good way to get media attention - so if people can increase the numbers, it would really help.

Additionally, here are my 2 cents on how the media coverage works. You think up of something unique and then create a buzz around it by talking about it in various forums, blog sites etc. So here's what I've done

1. Wrote about it on Desicritics: http://desicritics.org/2007/07/06/004733.php
2. Posted this message to South Asian Journalists Association mailing list (www.saja.org)
3. Talking to various reporters to cover this

You cannot get everyone excited about all the action items, correct? So if people are excited about this, why grumble about some of them not supporting other action items? I for one have actively taken part in all of them and I like this one as well.

saimrathi
07-06-2007, 09:55 AM
It would be great if DC area news agencies are given a headsup about this act of gratitude toward Emilio... It would be nice if we can get actual reaction from Emilio.. he'l probably think he's been punk'd..

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 10:06 AM
No the core group doesn't oppose or endorse the idea. If you like the idea then go for it.

As for the media coverage, I was talking to a reporter last night and he agreed that this was a very good way to get media attention - so if people can increase the numbers, it would really help.

Additionally, here are my 2 cents on how the media coverage works. You think up of something unique and then create a buzz around it by talking about it in various forums, blog sites etc. So here's what I've done

1. Wrote about it on Desicritics: http://desicritics.org/2007/07/06/004733.php
2. Posted this message to South Asian Journalists Association mailing list (www.saja.org)
3. Talking to various reporters to cover this

You cannot get everyone excited about all the action items, correct? So if people are excited about this, why grumble about some of them not supporting other action items? I for one have actively taken part in all of them and I like this one as well.

Thanks English!

This is the problem with most people I talked to! They seem to think that this is a joke! What most people don't understand is that it can work!

I am glad to know that a reporter thinks that this is a good idea!

So come on people it can work! But only if you all support it! IV cannot endorse this... do this on your own! Take a chance... all you will lose is a few dollars! But you can potentially be heard in the national media!

chanduy9
07-06-2007, 10:25 AM
Hi,

We have already 58 count..keep going guys.

Thanks,
Chandra.

chanduy9
07-06-2007, 10:32 AM
It would be great if DC area news agencies are given a headsup about this act of gratitude toward Emilio... It would be nice if we can get actual reaction from Emilio.. he'l probably think he's been punk'd..


Please send the flowers and ask your friends to do the same...pls see first page for plan of action...i am sure we get media atten...more people more impact.

Thanks,
Chandra.

chanduv23
07-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Contribute to IV - IV needs funds, contribute to IV and spread the message.

chanduy9
07-06-2007, 12:37 PM
http://digg.com/politics/FLOWER_DAY_JULY_10TH

sshekar
07-06-2007, 12:46 PM
ORDER ID:
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Services
Address: Director of USCIS
20 Massachusetts Ave NW
Washington , DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Sanchez
Thanks for giving us hope for few hours
on July 1st and taking it away(I-485
Reversal). All the best for future
Employment Based Visa predictions.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565
Evening Phone:
E-mail:

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 12:58 PM
http://digg.com/politics/FLOWER_DAY_JULY_10TH

Digg it people Digg it!!!

pvhemanth
07-06-2007, 01:26 PM
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May You Be Blessed With More Intelligence To Forecast Accurate Visa Numbers In The Future

Libra
07-06-2007, 01:26 PM
Dugg it

Digg it people Digg it!!!

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 01:42 PM
Can we hit the magic 3 figures????

Folks, I am preparing a draft of the letter to be sent to the media. Any suggestions for points to be included are welcome!

I plan to include some information about the immigration system, details about the fiasco, how it impacted us, what our flowers are meant for.

chanduy9
07-06-2007, 01:46 PM
Can we hit the magic 3 figures????

I think it is gonna be a slow hit...

Guys help your self by sending the flowers....

Thanks,
Chandra.

prinive
07-06-2007, 01:51 PM
:D
Dugg it

truthinspector
07-06-2007, 02:00 PM
This is by no means Gandhigiri. Most of the other messages are negative too.
I wonder what this is going to fetch. Plus the idea that USCIS is going to call up CNN once they receive 50 flower bouquets is hard to believe, unless CNN goes flower-sniffing ;-) at government offices regularly.

Thats a pretty harsh message in my books...

gsc999
07-06-2007, 02:00 PM
Guys, any reason why we have a whopping 70% of the members not interested in contributing to this idea??


I will give you a couple of reasons, why I am not supporting this idea, at the same time I won't discourage you from doing it:

Last year when CIR was being discussed in Senate, anti-immigrants sent thousands of bricks to Senator's offices. Bricks build walls, their message was clear, focus on border security first. This was a -ve campaign. It was popular in the right wing media but since CIR passed in Senate. I am presuming this campaign didn't work. The reason it failed was because the idea was to grab headlines but no thought on what after that. No strategy. Lets correlate this with flowers. An officer at USCIS will get these or maybe a dozen people. They will feel good. End of story. They don't have the ability to change the USCIS policy or the July bulletin, which is IV's aim. So basically sending flower is a gushy gesture and may sound fancy but USCIS doesn't work on emotion. If it did, why would they loose thousands of visas each year even though there is rampant backlog and retrogression?

Some members say well, flowers will attract media attention and hence help our cause. Well, unless Paris Hilton is sending those flowers you won't get much media's attention. Indirect, subtle and passive communication doesn't work in America. That is a cultural issue that these members need to come to grips with fast.

Our goal is to make USCIS accept July applications for AOS for GC. Since USCIS won't do that whats the best way to do it, well to exert external pressure. How is that done. Contact Media, Senators, Congress members and the Judicial system.

Too much babbling on my part, now, I am going to write a journalist requesting more media coverage on our issue.

Best of luck

chanduy9
07-06-2007, 02:14 PM
I will give you a couple of reasons, why I am not supporting this idea, at the same time I won't discourage you from doing it:

Last year when CIR was being discussed in Senate, anti-immigrants sent thousands of bricks to Senator's offices. Bricks build walls, their message was clear, focus on border security first. This was a -ve campaign. It was popular in the right wing media but since CIR passed in Senate. I am presuming this campaign didn't work. The reason it failed was because the idea was to grab headlines but no thought on what after that. No strategy. Lets correlate this with flowers. An officer at USCIS will get these or maybe a dozen people. They will feel good. End of story. They don't have the ability to change the USCIS policy or the July bulletin, which is IV's aim. So basically sending flower is a gushy gesture and may sound fancy but USCIS doesn't work on emotion. If it did, why would they loose thousands of visas each year even though there is rampant backlog and retrogression?

Some members say well, flowers will attract media attention and hence help our cause. Well, unless Paris Hilton is sending those flowers you won't get much media's attention. Indirect, subtle and passive communication doesn't work in America. That is a cultural issue that these members need to come to grips with fast.

Our goal is to make USCIS accept July applications for AOS for GC. Since USCIS won't do that whats the best way to do it, well to exert external pressure. How is that done. Contact Media, Senators, Congress members and the Judicial system.

Too much babbling on my part, now, I am going to write a journalist requesting more media coverage on our issue.

Best of luck

We are not sending pen, paper and cal to caluclate the accurate VB. And one more thing we are not fighting for it, just we are telling how badly we effected with the "flip flop" game of USCIS.

Pls see the first page for plan of action..we are gonna send the e-mails to reporters...i guess this is gonna big hit.

When you are writing to journalist mention about the JULY 10TH FLOWER DAY!! I am sure she/he will ask couple of questions abt it.

just my 2 cents..

Thanks,
Chandra.

venkygct
07-06-2007, 02:51 PM
ORDER ID:
EGONZA0EGFQS
RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Name: Emilio T Gonzalez
Company: US Citizen and Immigration Service
Address: 20 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W

Washington, DC 20529
Card Message: Dear Mr. Gonzalez, Thanks for giving us
hope for few hours on July 1st and
taking it away(I-485 Reversal). We
enjoyed the ride and the pain. Hope
USCIS recovers from its insanity soon.
Day Phone: 202-307-1565

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 03:41 PM
Below is a summary of your order W00431002254318.

RECIPIENT(S) INFORMATION

Address
Emilio Gonzalez
Uscis 20 Massachusetts Avenue, Nw
Washington,DC 20529


Gift(s)
SWEETHEART ROSE BOUQUET - 18 STEMS (#16388)
Delivery Date 07/10/2007


Card Message
HOPE YOU WILL BE BLESSED WITH MORE BRAINS TO PREDICT VISA NUMBERS MORE ACCURATELY IN THE FUTURE.


People please refrain from sending such messages. We are trying to sound mellow! Gandhiji wouldn't want you writing such "hate filled" messages and that goes against our purpose as well!

I understand that you are all frustrated and angry... but we need to send a message of Gandhigiri which means sympathizing for their error in judgment. It will help our cause if we stick to this.

Trust me! :)

abd
07-06-2007, 03:52 PM
Link : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri/articleshow/2183334.cms

tikka
07-06-2007, 03:54 PM
Link : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri/articleshow/2183334.cms


WASHINGTON: Hundreds of Indian high-skilled professionals in the US who have been on a roller coaster ride over the past month in their effort to get the green card will draw attention next week to their frustration -- with white flowers.

In a unique display of Gandhigiri -- a demonstratively peaceful Gandhian protest popularised in a recent Hindi movie -- scores of Indian H1-B visa holders who feel jilted by the abrupt changes in US immigration rules are planning to deluge US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Emilio Gonzalez with flowers on July 10.

Their peaceful venting stems from a June 12 USCIS notification that promised to fast track the green card process for tens of thousands of skilled foreign professionals and their spouses -- only to disappoint later. The announcement led to a stampede in countries such as India and China for obtaining birth certificates and other related documents needed for the process. Applicants spent thousands of dollars to meet the requirements and the deadline.

But on Monday, USCIS rolled back its notification, turning, according to the lobby group Immigration Voice, "a glimmer of hope into despair."

The idea of overwhelming the USCIS office in Washington DC with flowers arose from a fervid discussion on the bulletin boards of Immigration Voice where many skilled workers vent their frustration over the long drawn green card process. Although there were some dissenting voices which said such gestures would be wasted, proponents of this form of Gandhigiri said up to 200 people had signed by for the flowery protest.

According to some estimates from Immigration Voice and its supporters, the Green Card flap affects more than 100,000 skilled workers and their spouses and family in India. Each applicant for the fast tract process announced by USCIS last month is said to have spent upward of $ 2000 to submit documentation.

Except for the $ 325 filing fees which USCIS has said it will refund, the rest of the money, including towards attorney fees, medical exams, couriers etc is down the drain, several applicants said.

"I'd guess that with about 100,000 people filing along with at least one secondary applicant each, that's $ 400 million down the drain. That's not chump change," Vikas Chowdhry, an applicant who has been closely tracking the process, told ToI.

The bonanza for immigration lawyers and physicians who conduct medical fitness tests, who had a busier four weeks than normal, comes on top of millions of dollars of social security tax that the US government collects each year from temporary guest workers (including H1-B visa holders). These guest workers don't get a refund when they return home if they do not qualify or wish not to become permanent US residents.

The Indian government has been trying in vain to arrive at a 'totalisation agreement' with the US in this regard to refund the money. But Washington has been resisting it because without continuous contribution from new immigrants, the country's social security system would go bust.

The 'florid' protest aside, AILF, the litigation arm of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, is also considering filing a lawsuit against USCIS for possibly having violated federal regulations and precedents, apart from the personal trauma and stress caused to individuals.

english_august
07-06-2007, 03:55 PM
Alright friends, so we now have a lead item on Times of India on this effort.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-2183334,prtpage-1.cms

Can we now have some of the Nays turn into Ayes? We now have proof that this effort is attracting media's attention, we now have proof that it is viable. Can we please make it a smashing success by getting great numbers?

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07-06-2007, 04:15 PM
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all the best to all of us -:)

asharda
07-06-2007, 04:36 PM
Deliver on 7/10/2007 to:
Mr Emilio Gonzalez
US Citizen and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20529
United States
202-307-1565

Occasion:
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Message:
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qtoask
07-06-2007, 04:39 PM
can you please promote this Flower show... because 113 people are waiting you to endorse it...

see Poll: Flowers

thanks for all the efforts...

english_august
07-06-2007, 04:44 PM
Please make sure that the message you are sending with your flowers is polite and too the point.

I included this message:
DEAR MR. GONZALEZ, LEGAL SKILLED NON-IMMIGRANTS ARE SORRY THAT YOU ARE HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME IN DETERMINING PRIORITY DATES. ALL THE BEST FOR FUTURE EMPLOYMENT BASED VISA ESTIMATES.

You may use the same or something similar but it should be courteous.

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07-06-2007, 04:45 PM
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kalia
07-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Hi All,

There is nothing wrong in sending the flowers. People will have to make sure that their message is well written.

Please note that it is not USCIS who decides the priority dates. It is DOS who decides the VB. USCIS just follow that VB says.

gcsim
07-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Guys,

I just read article in times of india regarding aur drive to send flowers to USCIS.So its good we are already getting media coverage.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri/articleshow/2183334.cms

all the best

gsc999
07-06-2007, 05:00 PM
Guys,

I just read article in times of india regarding aur drive to send flowers to USCIS.So its good we are already getting media coverage.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri/articleshow/2183334.cms

all the best
--
TOI, great. That is good because most Americans trust TOI for their daily news. Couldn't help with the sarcasm. :rolleyes:

Anyways, It seems I might be converting to this idea of flowers, after my previous opposition to the idea. The only flower or a plant I can think of is a Cactus, will that work?

I am talking about those three to five feet tall cactus plants, that prick you when you touch them.

My message will be:
"Dear USCIS, since the working conditions at USCIS are poor and you may not have resources to water all the flowers that you are receiving. I am sending you a cactus that is low maintenance.
xoxo :-)
Secret admirer"

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 05:04 PM
--
TOI, great. That is good because most Americans trust TOI for their daily news. Couldn't help with the sarcasm. :rolleyes:

Anyways, It seems I might be converting to this idea of flowers, after my previous opposition to the idea. The only flower or a plant I can think of is a Cactus, will that work?

I am talking about those three to five feet tall cactus plants, that prick you when you touch them.

Most Indians read TOI! It's a start!

Today.. TOI tomorrow... CNN.. who knows :)

You can send plants and plant "parts" that you can "comfortably" sit on! :D
So if cactus works for u...

Gravitation
07-06-2007, 05:22 PM
Most Indians read TOI! It's a start!

Today.. TOI tomorrow... CNN.. who knows :)

You can send plants and plant "parts" that you can "comfortably" sit on! :D
So if cactus works for u...

We can make it a top story in American mainstream by digging it:

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Basically might be better to send 2 for 10$ rather than 1 for 20$ ....or say 5 for 10$ rather than 1 for 50$......

guess the quantity matters....so if let us know where you can get cheapest so we can send more....

I think the idea is quite good....we are on indiatimes and so many desis here read indiatimes and the awareness is going to increase....

all the best to all of us -:)

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07-06-2007, 05:48 PM
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07-06-2007, 05:53 PM
I am in for the flowers thing. However I have a suggestion, sending flowers just to Director U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will not help much, we need to draw the attention on congress on this to increase the green card quota and get rid of country quota. Any suggestion how we can draw attention of congress by sending flowers on JULY 10th?

If things go according to plan... this news should reach the Congress!

Check out "Times of India"
Tomorrow... hopefully CNN :)

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 05:56 PM
I understand your agency does all it can; Do the best job it can.
I also hope you empathize with the frustrations of a legal immigrant.
A small token of peaceful protest and hoping for the best.

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Basically might be better to send 2 for 10$ rather than 1 for 20$ ....or say 5 for 10$ rather than 1 for 50$......

guess the quantity matters....so if let us know where you can get cheapest so we can send more....

I think the idea is quite good....we are on indiatimes and so many desis here read indiatimes and the awareness is going to increase....

all the best to all of us -:)

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07-06-2007, 06:34 PM
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it away. We hope you enjoyed it.

DD_1977
07-06-2007, 07:11 PM
from flowermall.com


Your order number is 1183761155. Please keep this number handy until you receive your order. You may also want to print this page for future reference.



Dear Mr. Gonzalez,

Thanks for giving us hope for few hours
on July 1st and taking it away (I-485 Reversal). We
enjoyed the ride and the pain. Hope
USCIS recovers from its insanity soon.
- A Legally admitted Resident from the country of Gandhi.

iambest
07-06-2007, 07:35 PM
Order Number: FNM1319810


Order Date: Friday 07/06/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
USA
2023071565


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rangaswamy
07-06-2007, 07:35 PM
Can some one provide me a template that i can send?

Should briefly cover the actual issue and also the idea of sending flowers.

Please send me a private message if i missed this in the other threads.

Anand

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 07:42 PM
Can some one provide me a template that i can send?

Should briefly cover the actual issue and also the idea of sending flowers.

Please send me a private message if i missed this in the other threads.

Anand

Hold on... we are still working on the draft. Hopefully we can have one out by the end of the day tomorrow

chanduy9
07-06-2007, 07:42 PM
Can some one provide me a template that i can send?

Should briefly cover the actual issue and also the idea of sending flowers.

Please send me a private message if i missed this in the other threads.

Anand


You can see the details in first page....

Guys we are short of 21 for 3 digits...

Thanks,
Chandra.

nareshg
07-06-2007, 08:28 PM
Order number 1183765379 on www.1888flowermall.com

Message

Dear Mr. Gonzalez,
Legal skilled non-immigrants are sorry that you are having such a hard time in determining priority dates.
All the best for future employment based visa estimates.
Thank you for showing us the joy for a few days and then taking it away.
- Patiently waiting !!


All the best folks, less than 20 to go to make it 100 !!

Gravitation
07-06-2007, 09:41 PM
Only 19 more needed to score the century!

A century of flowers!

:DWe need 2 Fours, a sixer, 2 twos and 1 one.:D

drona
07-06-2007, 09:52 PM
Hey Gravitation, according to the poll "How many sent the flowers" you have not sent the flowers. Please either send the flowers or update the poll. Just keeping track :)

Gravitation
07-06-2007, 09:56 PM
Hey Gravitation, according to the poll "How many sent the flowers" you have not sent the flowers. Please either send the flowers or update the poll. Just keeping track :)

I had initially polled No. Then I changed my mind about sending flowers. Order number: FEJ345413

I just tried to change my vote, it wouldn't let me.

drona
07-06-2007, 10:03 PM
I hope there are others out there like you, we might have already reached a century!

bugmenot
07-06-2007, 10:07 PM
Order Number: FNK1821176


Order Date: Friday 07/06/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
USA
2023578100


Gift Message: Thank you for showing a little hope and then taking
it away. We hope you enjoyed it.

u guys are negating the effect of the "gandhigiri" by sending the flowers and then sayin f$#k u for screwing it up, thats a stupid strategy and fails the essence of the "gandhigiri" cAmpaign

drona
07-06-2007, 10:19 PM
We are all just doing our best in a bad situation. Anyway the more Gandhigiri we do the closer we can get to the essense of Gandhigiri. We would like to learn from the experience.


u guys are negating the effect of the "gandhigiri" by sending the flowers and then sayin f$#k u for screwing it up, thats a stupid strategy and fails the essence of the "gandhigiri" cAmpaign

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 10:37 PM
u guys are negating the effect of the "gandhigiri" by sending the flowers and then sayin f$#k u for screwing it up, thats a stupid strategy and fails the essence of the "gandhigiri" cAmpaign

You are missing the point folks!

Please try to stick to this message (or something along those lines).

I understand your agency does all it can; Do the best job it can.
I also hope you empathize with the frustrations of a legal immigrant.
A small token of peaceful protest and hoping for the best.

I know you are all angry but please please please control yourself. We want to sound mellow and sympathetic!

No one expects USCIS to change their decision because of this! The flowers and the message are ONLY to make a point!

Everything will be explained in the letters we mail to the media but it can only work if we stick to that message!

anda007
07-06-2007, 10:40 PM
A lot of people have already sent the flowers and they do not follow the IV nor do they care about polling here.
I think the idea is catching up very fast thru email chains and people are doing this independently
So we will never know, exactly how many people really sent the flower, but still the effect is the same !!!
Gandhigiri ki Jai

dtekkedil
07-06-2007, 10:44 PM
A lot of people have already sent the flowers and they do not follow the IV nor do they care about polling here.
I think the idea is catching up very fast thru email chains and people are doing this independently
So we will never know, exactly how many people really sent the flower, but still the effect is the same !!!
Gandhigiri ki Jai

It is good to know that people are acting! Do let your friends know about the article on Times of India. It can encourage more people!

anda007
07-06-2007, 10:49 PM
Is there anybody, in DC who can be there on July 10th to witness this and report this
Especially, when the FTD/1800 flowers deliver these stuff

Also, can we ask the media to be present to witness the spectacle
Anand

It is good to know that people are acting! Do let your friends know about the article on Times of India. It can encourage more people!

HariRamNai
07-06-2007, 10:53 PM
Sent really good roses with a glass vase from 1-800-flowers.com.

Order confirmation: W00442100816924

To Emilio Gonzalez with the message :
7 years on I stay awake to my American Dream. I hope these flowers brighten up your day and give you a pleasant & restful sleep

sbg
07-06-2007, 11:36 PM
sent..

"Dear Mr. Gonzalez, Thank you for giving us hope on June 12 and taking it away on July 2 (I-485 reversal). I hope these flowers help cheer you and your staff who must be feeling miserable for having made this blunder.

Sincerely,
Just-another-legal-immigrant-stagnating-in-the-beaureucratic-mess-of-Employment-Based-Legal-Immigration."

english_august
07-06-2007, 11:36 PM
The Times of India article that is on their website has also been published in Delhi and Mumbai print editions of Saturday. You can check out their epaper.

chanduy9
07-07-2007, 12:50 AM
We are 12 short to 100...

Guys who said no or who are voted for willing to send the flowers with or with out IV in another post...join us...already we are getting media attn....

If every body join the FLOWER DAY...i am sure we can do it in a big way..

Thanks,
Chandra.

nareshg
07-07-2007, 02:45 PM
no movement ? :)...

nareshg
07-07-2007, 02:52 PM
I sent mine from https://www.1888flowermall.com with Emilio's address as shipping address....

I see mine as billing address....is he going to get my complete name and address ?????

Is that the case for everyone and is it a problem ?

dtekkedil
07-07-2007, 03:58 PM
The billing address is for the florist! They dont give it to the receiver! Yeah if Emilio really wants he can track you down (subpoena the florist etc etc..). But how many people will he track down? And what is he going to do? Sue you for sending him flowers? Of course that depends on what message you send along with the flowers :)

nareshg
07-07-2007, 04:10 PM
The billing address is for the florist! They dont give it to the receiver! Yeah if Emilio really wants he can track you down (subpoena the florist etc etc..). But how many people will he track down? And what is he going to do? Sue you for sending him flowers? Of course that depends on what message you send along with the flowers :)


=====
thanks - :) I sent a decent message -:)
Message sent with the flowers
Dear Mr. Gonzalez,
Legal skilled non-immigrants are sorry that you are having such a hard time in determining priority dates.
All the best for future employment based visa estimates.
Thank you for showing us the joy for a few days and then taking it away.
- Patiently waiting !!

drona
07-07-2007, 04:36 PM
Hello All,

It appears from another thread just posted that IV Core is supporting the Flower Drive. To all the people who have voted to send flowers if IV supports us, please see the thread below and send those flowers. We need the numbers. Please make the contribution. Please also vote in the "How many sent the flowers" poll once you have made your order.


http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6191

Keep going folks! We need your contribution to make it worth it!

english_august
07-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Great news: IV core is supporting the flower campaign - see this thread (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6191). :)

We have until tonight to place in the orders so that the flowers can be delivered on Tuesday.

Everyone who kept the faith - thanks and lets continue sending emails or calling people to let them know about it.
People who said that they will send the flowers only if IV core supports it - please send flowers asap.

BTW, I am curious as to who first proposed this idea.

himu73
07-07-2007, 05:43 PM
Please desist from putting such quotes. You will put the whole campaign in jeopardy. We are following Mahatma Gandhi's principles. Please take note
saying "I love you Emilio" for screwing up my I-485 app.

himu73
07-07-2007, 05:48 PM
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers

himu73
07-07-2007, 05:50 PM
I got it, Just put in google maps
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers

Gowtham Nalluri
07-07-2007, 05:52 PM
Order # FNK1822109 to be deliverd on 10th Jul.

shx
07-07-2007, 10:20 PM
/\/\/\/\

gcnirvana
07-07-2007, 10:27 PM
Please checkout the Send Flowers thread posted by Pappu. It has all the details. Good Luck!

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=102748#post102748
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers

chanduy9
07-07-2007, 11:17 PM
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers


You can see all the details in the first page.

4 short to 100

Thanks,
Chandra.

wizpal
07-08-2007, 04:10 AM
Order # FNKXXXXXXX

Deliver on: Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007
Delivery by: FedEx®, DHL® or UPS®
Deliver to: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington DC, DC 20529
US
202-307-1565
Occasion: Other
Gift Message and Signature: "Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"



Sweetheart Mixed Rose Bouquet
F488 $ 24.99
$ (6.24)
Service Charges $ 13.99
Taxes $ 0.00

Subtotal $ 32.74


Be the change you want to see in the world
----------------------------
Gandhi, The Mahatma

sodh
07-08-2007, 05:29 AM
Did anybody send flowers to their lawyers for filling their application on july 3rd even when everything was ready before june 29nth and i heard in my company that people paid 5000 usd to the lawyers to mail their applications on june 29th.

sodh
07-08-2007, 05:47 AM
Please tell me the color as i would be delighted to send flowers that suit the occasion.

syzygy
07-08-2007, 05:59 AM
This is one the latest articles which highlights America's racial discrimination policy as regards immigration.

Please read and digg.

http://digg.com/politics/Racial_Discrimination_policy_followed_for_LEGAL_IM MIGRATION_in_USA

chanduy9
07-08-2007, 10:12 AM
Please tell me the color as i would be delighted to send flowers that suit the occasion.

Any coloro any vendor and any flower is good but make sure flowers will reach on FLOWER DAY 10TH JULY!!

See first page for details.

IT IS 100
Thanks,
Chandra.

GCBy3000
07-08-2007, 11:39 AM
Earlier I did not send and clicked NO to the poll. But how I have sent after IV supported it.

Order # FNK1822590



Deliver on:
Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007

test101
07-08-2007, 11:46 AM
Just out of curiosity, is anybody working on notifying the media in the US?
Thanks

rajeev_74
07-08-2007, 12:41 PM
If the flower campaign has to make a difference we will need more people...Guys we have nearly 15K members so please...

dtekkedil
07-08-2007, 01:06 PM
Just out of curiosity, is anybody working on notifying the media in the US?
Thanks

Working on it... we will have the "draft" version by the end of the day. In the meanwhile I would appreciate it if anyone can find out fax numbers where we can fax the press release to.

Email addresses are fine but we need fax numbers too. People take them more seriously.

dtekkedil
07-08-2007, 01:11 PM
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers

http://grassley.senate.gov/releases/2006/02272006.pdf

test101
07-08-2007, 01:15 PM
I have a list of over 600 media email address ... let me know if you want me to email it to you so you can send them notice about the peacful flower campaingn.




Working on it... we will have the "draft" version by the end of the day. In the meanwhile I would appreciate it if anyone can find out fax numbers where we can fax the press release to.

Email addresses are fine but we need fax numbers too. People take them more seriously.

gc_desperate
07-08-2007, 02:15 PM
Delivery

Order # FNN1076143



Deliver on: Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007
Delivery by: FedEx®, DHL® or UPS®
Deliver to: Emilio T Gonzalez
Business
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20529
US
202-307-1565
Occasion: Sympathy

crystal
07-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Gnadhigiri on http://www.immigration-law.com/. It is interesting to note that Mathew did not quote Immigration Voice , but as East Indians . Many non-indians also sent floweres. I guess there is something to it

delhirocks
07-08-2007, 05:21 PM
bump...Please update if you have send flowers.

Note: Use the message provided by Pappu

saibalagi
07-08-2007, 05:32 PM
Order Number: FNL1789250


Order Date: Sunday 07/08/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: T. Gonzalez Emilio
Residence
20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
USA
2023071565


Gift Message: "Kindly do not return our I-485 petitions in July
and honor the original DOS visa bulletin" [first last name] - An employment based immigrant.

amaruns
07-08-2007, 06:13 PM
Order # FNM1321413

Deliver on:
Tuesday
Jul. 10, 2007

Delivery by:
FedEx®, DHL® or UPS®
Deliver to: Emilio Gonzalez
Business
USCIS
20 Massachusetts Avenue
NW
Washington, DC 20529
US
202-307-1565
Occasion: Other
Gift Message and Signature: "Kindly accept I-485 petitions in July and honor the original DOS visa bulletin"
<Name> - An employment based immigrant

anda007
07-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Lot of people are sending the flowers or just Get well soon greeting cards based on the email chain thats circulated.
They have either not heard of IV or don't care about it and read it
So don't worry, the number is + 100 to whatever u see here

If the flower campaign has to make a difference we will need more people...Guys we have nearly 15K members so please...

justin150377
07-08-2007, 07:35 PM
I voted No in this poll but have since changed my mind and sent flowers for delivery on July 10th. I'm not sure how or if you can change your vote in the poll.

Order Number: FNM1321253


Order Date: Sunday 07/08/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: Emilio T. Gonzalez

20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
USA
2023071565

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Please allow 6-8 weeks for miles/points to post to your account.

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rajeev_74
07-08-2007, 08:41 PM
If the number is 500+ it will def. make an impact...

Lot of people are sending the flowers or just Get well soon greeting cards based on the email chain thats circulated.
They have either not heard of IV or don't care about it and read it
So don't worry, the number is + 100 to whatever u see here

chanduy9
07-08-2007, 08:55 PM
I voted No in this poll but have since changed my mind and sent flowers for delivery on July 10th. I'm not sure how or if you can change your vote in the poll.

Order Number: FNM1321253


Order Date: Sunday 07/08/2007
Delivery On: Tuesday 07/10/2007
Delivery To: Emilio T. Gonzalez

20 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20314-0001
USA
2023071565

You will earn 250 ALASKA AIRLINES Miles
Please allow 6-8 weeks for miles/points to post to your account.

Got some Alaska Miles out of it too! Woo hoo.

Thanks for joining us..

go2roomshare
07-08-2007, 10:44 PM
There is no point in sending flowers knowing nothing gonna change. it is like putting flowers to us.

anandrajesh
07-08-2007, 10:51 PM
There is no point in sending flowers knowing nothing gonna change. it is like putting flowers to us.

Let us try this, if it works... Great... Else Atleast we Tried.
Let us hope Gandhigiri Works in USA
:)

camarasa
07-08-2007, 11:14 PM
With all of the anthrax scares going on I'd be very surprised if they even allowed the flowers to be delivered to the building (especially if they are accompanied with get well soon cards). You may want to make sure that the flowers are being signed for and delivered before you send any more.

anda007
07-09-2007, 12:49 AM
Thats wrong. This is not being posted by private people. It is being delivered and packaged by FTD/1800 flowers and such known company.
What u are saying would be true if people are sending envelopes with a 33cent stamp on it
All of this will be delivered to the building for sure

With all of the anthrax scares going on I'd be very surprised if they even allowed the flowers to be delivered to the building (especially if they are accompanied with get well soon cards). You may want to make sure that the flowers are being signed for and delivered before you send any more.

anda007
07-09-2007, 12:52 AM
People are sending this not make anything to change here. As long as the point is conveyed and there is media coverage, there is some redemption
People are doing this to gain a visibility and acknowledgement of our suffering.
So please encourage this rather than put a negative remark like this.
If you do not want to send it, its fine. Nobody is forcing anybody.
The flowers are going there is large numbers irrespective of what IV says or anybody says

There is no point in sending flowers knowing nothing gonna change. it is like putting flowers to us.

camarasa
07-09-2007, 01:02 AM
Thats wrong. This is not being posted by private people. It is being delivered and packaged by FTD/1800 flowers and such known company.
What u are saying would be true if people are sending envelopes with a 33cent stamp on it
All of this will be delivered to the building for sure

I'm just saying make sure they are accepting them - can't you call FTD/1800 flowers and check if your flowers were delivered? It's a government building and they get really strict at times - I know because I work at one.

delhirocks
07-09-2007, 01:08 AM
There is no point in sending flowers knowing nothing gonna change. it is like putting flowers to us.

Everyone has a different reason for doing this. I for one do not believe, this will give us any interim benefits. But Iam here for the long haul (2-5 years). I know that if we need to fix the system (get visa cap raised), we have to start somewhere. This will, hopefully get some conversations started in the media/congress. Who knows, this along with other initiatives that IV is undertaking/undertaken along with industry support, we might get it done in a few years.

If not, atleast I would go to bed thinking I tried...

Harivinder
07-09-2007, 03:50 AM
Order #88006989

venkee
07-09-2007, 08:32 AM
Order#FNN1076998

english_august
07-09-2007, 08:54 AM
Please refer to this thread:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=103700

sledge_hammer
07-09-2007, 01:40 PM
I had voted "No" initially, but I have sent flowers anyway...

logiclife
07-09-2007, 01:45 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6191

Additional threads are confusing members.

Sorry I have to close this thread as this has many wrong posts having wrong message and zipcode.