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Now I got it

Thanks for your valuable input/suggestion.

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You are not getting it. It is not about you not being affected by other students joining late. It is about the quality of school admissions and education as a whole. If you go to any of the better rated schools they won't let any students join in after the registration period. This is to prevent class disruption and as well as be just to the student and have him not unduly burdened with additional class work or be discriminated against by the Professor. Good schools will also be worried about the quality of students graduating from the school as it will eventually affect the school repuration (it is just like selling quality product/software to client so that you get repeat or future clients based on reputation of delivering quality product/service).

UNVA is antitheseis of a good school. It has been trying for some affiliation with some unknown organization. Lot of good M.B.A schools are AACSB certified but they would not touch UNVA with a barge pole. So decide and choose carefully.
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Honestly, doing your MS is not worth it while still in GC application phase.
With BS+8 years of experience, you can get EB2 status. Even with MS, if your position does not require MS or the salary is not as high as MS standards, you will still be EB3.

My 2 cents, get your GC, and then get MS. The fees you pay as a permanent resident is 1/3rd what you will pay as an out-state resident. I've done my MBA here, but the return on investment is not worth it. I would have made more and possibly had my greencard by now had I not gone to school.
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If you are planning to invest time and money, think about it. I have heard several MS and MBA stories where people are not able to freely take the return on the investment until they are free from the mercy of USCIS.

MS and PhD from top 20 universities and MBA from top 30 are the only ones that are finding true value for their education if they are on H1. I have a MS from the top 50. But, I don't need the MS for what I am doing but needed it for my GC.

Think well. Also, this is just a forum.....dont take what you get from here as it is. Do some research.

Talk to the college profs, career services, alumni and see if you are convinced. In my opinion BS degrees from many of the Indian universities are better than MS programs of many of the American universities.

......just my 2 cents
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Default Look at education as an investment

Dear Friend:
First, look at education as an investment you make on yourself. A house will come and go, education makes you empowered and I am not making a statement, it is true. It opens up doors for you in many scenarios. True, some lucky ones get opportunity without education but they should not be your role model. A college drop out doesn't mean a successful entrepreneur.

I would like to brainstorm on this :
# Will a higher degree help me in a 10 year period ? For example can you expand the degree for shaping up your life in next 10-15 years ?
# Is a higher degree preferred in my job ?
# Is it going to help me to think differently ?
# Will I be able to build good contacts ?
# Will I be able to create a network to build my own ideas or join ideas ?

If you do not go out how can you know what exists outside ? Just imagine 10 years from now and see what you need.

If you are in Boston area, I can suggest some courses which you can take part time.

My good wishes.
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BS degrees from many of the Indian universities are better than MS programs of many of the American universities.

......just my 2 cents
I completely disagree with this statement. There are good institutions and poor institutions in both the country. In general US education system is lot better as their graduates can do lot of stuff that our engineer just some time mostly read and pass in exam. We need to change our education system in India to more out put and skill oriented from current exam oriented system. Any one who has experinece with education in both countries at relatively good school will understand this difference

This is a big discussion we can not complete on this thread.

Also in recent 10-15 years thousands of technical education institution has comeup for profit in India every where who just take money and distribute degrees. Any degree from any such institution does not worth the paper on which it is written on. Indian education system is detoriating day by day because of rise of PERCENTAGE of such institution.

Problems with US education system is lack of motivated and hard working students. Mainly because easily available basic neccessities of the life. Otherwise education system is not that bad as you said in above statement.
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To continue my earlier post, here is a website which will give you what I mention about avenues. Few people in the class (evening class, part-time mostly), found each other compatible to share ideas, launch a program and the result is this Embryo Creative: Ideas Born Here.

Remember, school is the best place where you meet people without an agenda. There you can freely bounce ideas, be a student, a learner, an experimenter without much thought.

Part-time or full-time? Part time is better, it gives you a good mix of life.. you need support from your family and/or yourself. It also helps you to manage your finance and time.

I would even go as far as telling that in this environment each of us should go back to school every 7-8 years for a 1 year part-time/full time period.

I am not academician
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Default My reasons for MS

I did MS with following reasons in mind. These are pure personal. See if it helps for you.
I had BSC/PGDCA from India. I had less credits to start with MS. I was told to do some additonal credits to bridge to MS. I decided to go for another BS in CIS for filling the gap which I finished in one year and got BS in CIS. Finally I ended up having two Bachelor degrees. One from India and One from USA. And then I took MS in CIS. I completed it in 10months. Got honors. 3.92 GPA

- My father deserved it
- My dream since childhood (not MS but some higher studies MTech like that)
- I can grab EB2 opportunity if come across
- I can not earn in one day or can not buy it if required
- I had mild Inferiority complex on my BSC/PDGCA education when I compare my self with B.E, M.Tech, MS, MCA though I am a very good programmer.
- Inspiration by seeing other MS students
- One time investment if you think that way
- If I have joined for 1 lakh donation in india in 1987/88, the cost would be same now if you think that way
- Future outsourcing effects.. Filtered people? MBA is also plus.
- Shines my resume
- I have competition in studies since childhood
- Lot of young kids have MS, I feel shamed not to have
- My kids can feel proud of me when they grown

Some of these look like a comprimise to do MS. If so, yes they could be.
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What is CIS?

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I did MS with following reasons in mind. These are pure personal. See if it helps for you.
I had BSC/PGDCA from India. I had less credits to start with MS. I was told to do some additonal credits to bridge to MS. I decided to go for another BS in CIS for filling the gap which I finished in one year and got BS in CIS. Finally I ended up having two Bachelor degrees. One from India and One from USA. And then I took MS in CIS. I completed it in 10months. Got honors. 3.92 GPA

- My father deserved it
- My dream since childhood (not MS but some higher studies MTech like that)
- I can grab EB2 opportunity if come across
- I can not earn in one day or can not buy it if required
- I had mild Inferiority complex on my BSC/PDGCA education when I compare my self with B.E, M.Tech, MS, MCA though I am a very good programmer.
- Inspiration by seeing other MS students
- One time investment if you think that way
- If I have joined for 1 lakh donation in india in 1987/88, the cost would be same now if you think that way
- Future outsourcing effects.. Filtered people? MBA is also plus.
- Shines my resume
- I have competition in studies since childhood
- Lot of young kids have MS, I feel shamed not to have
- My kids can feel proud of me when they grown

Some of these look like a comprimise to do MS. If so, yes they could be.
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What is CIS?
The only CIS I know is USCIS and I don't like it. Well, I am just a dumb Civil Engineer
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Ask yourself what you want out of MS. If its money, then MS is definitely not advisable. If its your academic development, then yes its a first step. If you want both money and academic development, MBA from a good school may be answer...but remember this: One cannot have their cake and eat it too.
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What is CIS?
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