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Exclamation Planning to do MS but is it worth the money ?

I am planning to do MS (Business Intelligence or Information Technologies) but not sure does it really give any additional values for my scenario

1) I have 8+yrs of IT exp
2) Have my BS (from India).
3) Working on H1 from 2008 with current employer 1yr.
4) Expecting to start GC from my employer in a year (ya thats what they told )
5) Not sure this MS will help in my GC
6) After research identified unva.edu offers MS (BI - $13.5K , IT - $15.7k) with better price and local to me. Not sure about the university yet, though they claim its accredited.
7) Cost of MS will increase $1k - $2k (if not registered in couple of week)
8) May not get salary increase based on MS.

It will be great if you could give some input/suggestion

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At this point, you have to do a lot of the decision yourself. An internet forum might misguide you.

Questions to ponder -

-Are you looking to add to your skills
-Are you looking for an upgraded resume - but can build skills on your own
-university reputation - how is it viewed down the lane. Is this a private (for profit ) university...look at how its viewed in the eyes of employers
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How much time is left in your H1?
Will your company file in EB2 if you complete your MS because if you file in EB3 even now ( let alone one year from now ) you are doomed to wait for 25-30 years .
How much time would it take for you to complete your MS?
Does your job description allow your company to file your labor in EB2 ?
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Company is not ready to discuss anything related to GC at this point. I am trying to qualify myself for EB2 if possible or if i am not eligible for EB2 with my current qualification & education.

It will take 2yrs (36 credits for MS-BI , 42 credits for MS-IT) but if time permits (for study) I can completed in 18months.

Current job is Senior Analyst (which requires BS with 5+yrs of experience), also my concern is there is good chances USCIS would change the rule (if not already) for EB2 qualification which may prevent my company to file in EB2.


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How much time is left in your H1?
Will your company file in EB2 if you complete your MS because if you file in EB3 even now ( let alone one year from now ) you are doomed to wait for 25-30 years .
How much time would it take for you to complete your MS?
Does your job description allow your company to file your labor in EB2 ?
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-Are you looking to add to your skills - No
-Are you looking for an upgraded resume - but can build skills on your own - May be
-university reputation - how is it viewed down the lane. Is this a private (for profit ) university...look at how its viewed in the eyes of employers It is private and not sure how employers view this university.

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At this point, you have to do a lot of the decision yourself. An internet forum might misguide you.

Questions to ponder -

-Are you looking to add to your skills
-Are you looking for an upgraded resume - but can build skills on your own
-university reputation - how is it viewed down the lane. Is this a private (for profit ) university...look at how its viewed in the eyes of employers
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I am planning to do MS (Business Intelligence or Information Technologies) but not sure does it really give any additional values for my scenario

1) I have 8+yrs of IT exp
2) Have my BS (from India).
3) Working on H1 from 2008 with current employer 1yr.
4) Expecting to start GC from my employer in a year (ya thats what they told )
5) Not sure this MS will help in my GC
6) After research identified unva.edu offers MS (BI - $13.5K , IT - $15.7k) with better price and local to me. Not sure about the university yet, though they claim its accredited.
7) Cost of MS will increase $1k - $2k (if not registered in couple of week)
8) May not get salary increase based on MS.

It will be great if you could give some input/suggestion
MS in IT side is useless back in India...regarding future career growth in US, if you are born in India, GC is impossible. You need a reality check.

IT is now a commodity. Unlike the 90s employers don't pay a premium for MS.
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In one word the Answer is NO!!!

The economic cost of education will far surpase the economic value that you are going to get from it.

But I will encourage to get a masters regardless; there are advantages of education that cannot be measured in terms of money. Studying in this country is a totally different experience then in India. You will most certainly learn a lot. If you do decide to do MS do it for the sake of education not for the money and then you will not be disappointed.

Regards. and Best of Luck
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Why not an MBA?
MBA seems to be hot these days.....Correct me if i am wrong.....
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Why not an MBA?
MBA seems to be hot these days.....Correct me if i am wrong.....
Between MS and MBA, MBA makes more sense. But avoid expensive MBA, ROI doesn't work out if(in fact "when") you go back to India
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Thumbs down UNVA. No & Never.

If you are going for education then please don't go to UNVA. It is a crap university with no affiliation and even crappier programs. Trust me. Their quarter (runs for 12 weeks) and I know new students joining the class in 7th week. How bad can it be? All UNVA cares for is about money.

F.Y.I: I already have a M.S.M.E from U.S and M.B.A from a top-rated school in U.S. and I definitely have the qualifications to do the comparison.

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I appreciate you input, buy I would like to understand (b'cos I never did any edu in US) does other students joining quite late in the semester would affect us ?

Also what kind of affiliation we need to check for any university before joining ?


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If you are going for education then please don't go to UNVA. It is a crap university with no affiliation and even crappier programs. Trust me. I go there b'cos I needed a CPT and I ran out of 6 years on H1B and I didn't apply for labor in time. This quarter (runs for 12 weeks) I have seen new students joining the class in 7th week. How bad can it be? All UNVA cares for is about money.

F.Y.I: I already have a M.S.M.E from U.S and M.B.A from a top-rated school in U.S. and I definitely have the qualifications to do the comparison.
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Default Unva

If you are serious about MS, stay away from UNVA.

But, if you only need a degree or CPT, go ahead and spend the money. It is worth getting a Masters from a good & reputed school than getting it from some shitty school. I would rather get a degree online from Univ of Phoenix.
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I am into coding and MBA doesn't add any value to my current job...also I would like to continue in technical task rather management ....I know I am not good at management (at least with past experience)...worked as PM for a year months...end up doing all technical works for my team members because of below average resources and company was not ready to get any decent resources....
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Arrow my 2 cents...

With 8+ years in IT, IMO MS will give you a shot in the arm. You will feel good to learn again and I'm sure that it'll benefit you. As Education always does...my belief anyways.

But, if you pick a 'junk' college the benefit may be marginal to negligible--so, my advice to you is to pick a good univ and not look for money, if you do MS at all.

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I am planning to do MS (Business Intelligence or Information Technologies) but not sure does it really give any additional values for my scenario

1) I have 8+yrs of IT exp
2) Have my BS (from India).
3) Working on H1 from 2008 with current employer 1yr.
4) Expecting to start GC from my employer in a year (ya thats what they told )
5) Not sure this MS will help in my GC
6) After research identified unva.edu offers MS (BI - $13.5K , IT - $15.7k) with better price and local to me. Not sure about the university yet, though they claim its accredited.
7) Cost of MS will increase $1k - $2k (if not registered in couple of week)
8) May not get salary increase based on MS.

It will be great if you could give some input/suggestion
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Also what kind of affiliation we need to check for any university before joining ?
You are not getting it. It is not about you not being affected by other students joining late. It is about the quality of school admissions and education as a whole. If you go to any of the better rated schools they won't let any students join in after the registration period. This is to prevent class disruption and as well as be just to the student and have him not unduly burdened with additional class work or be discriminated against by the Professor. Good schools will also be worried about the quality of students graduating from the school as it will eventually affect the school reputation (it is just like selling quality product/software to client so that you get repeat or future clients based on reputation of delivering quality product/service).

UNVA is antitheseis of a good school. It has been trying for some affiliation with some unknown organization. Lot of good M.B.A schools are AACSB certified but they would not touch UNVA with a barge pole.

Students hardly come to classes and still get an A. Assignments are regularly palgiarised b'cos most of them don't know how to solve them in the first place. If you go to a good school you will have to work hard to earn your degree which will be more fulfilling to you. So decide and choose carefully.

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