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I can't access videos at my work place. But, I saw this disturbing news headline and thought I must share this here.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1019715332
Why oh why do we need to create such threads when anti-immigrant nuts are already doing this? Why do you want to help them??
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Why oh why do we need to create such threads when anti-immigrant nuts are already doing this? Why do you want to help them??
Why are you posting shit like this when we already have a bunch of nut jobs trying to taint our image. You are a buttfuck sir!
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Because the H-1B visa program was only meant to bring in workers if their skill set could not be found in the United States, any attempt to use it for any purpose other than that constitutes fraud.


1. The H-1B visa is not a dual intent visa because it was meant only to bring in temporay skilled foreign workers who were meant to return home after the legal limits of their stay in the US. That is the law.

2. Attempting to describe critics of the abuse of the H-1B program as racists makes no sense because only those criticisms have been used to describe fraud in the program itself or have been attempts to correct untrue propaganda being spread about the program. There has been no "racism" involved in uncovering the many current abuses of the program.

3. If an American has a skill set that can be employed at a company, the law is specific that the H-1B visa program cannot be used to replace a American.

4. Attempts to fail to use "due diligence" to hire Americans for skilled technical positions competing against placement of H-1B foreign workers is fraud and widespread H-1B abuse can be descibed as racketeeing.

5. The H-1B visa program is a fraudulent program that was illegally modified to throw Americans out of work and as such Americans are now forming groups that are resisting the importation of H-1Bs into the country.

I am an American who used to work as an IT worker (no, I am not Matt Krause or ) and I was thrown out of my job. I am extremely angry and bitter and I pray to God that he may help me direct my anger and bitterness against job thieves and H-1Bs who have come to the US to steal our jobs.
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I think you have forgotten what AMERICA stands for? May be you can use some online help instead of wasting time here and blaming others for what you are facing. There are many who have lost jobs and you can't generalise it to blame one country or people who have a common origin.

If you have the SKILLS you will get a job. If you dont have the SKILLS you will be just writing on forums. I dont think your anger will help you, it will just take you down to hit the bottom.

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Because the H-1B visa program was only meant to bring in workers if their skill set could not be found in the United States, any attempt to use it for any purpose other than that constitutes fraud.


1. The H-1B visa is not a dual intent visa because it was meant only to bring in temporay skilled foreign workers who were meant to return home after the legal limits of their stay in the US. That is the law.

2. Attempting to describe critics of the abuse of the H-1B program as racists makes no sense because only those criticisms have been used to describe fraud in the program itself or have been attempts to correct untrue propaganda being spread about the program. There has been no "racism" involved in uncovering the many current abuses of the program.

3. If an American has a skill set that can be employed at a company, the law is specific that the H-1B visa program cannot be used to replace a American.

4. Attempts to fail to use "due diligence" to hire Americans for skilled technical positions competing against placement of H-1B foreign workers is fraud and widespread H-1B abuse can be descibed as racketeeing.

5. The H-1B visa program is a fraudulent program that was illegally modified to throw Americans out of work and as such Americans are now forming groups that are resisting the importation of H-1Bs into the country.

I am an American who used to work as an IT worker (no, I am not Matt Krause or ) and I was thrown out of my job. I am extremely angry and bitter and I pray to God that he may help me direct my anger and bitterness against job thieves and H-1Bs who have come to the US to steal our jobs.
My dear bitter angry American IT worker you should know that nobody is stealing your job. The jobs does not belong to the employee - it belongs to the employer and they can give it to anybody he wants too - as long as it is being done lawfully. If the employer wants he can give the job to a Citizen, GC holder, H-1B worker, F-1 student, can outsource it, or can decide he does not want to hire anybody. Nobody can or should force him one way or the other. The employer has to make a determination on the basis of the skills he need from the potential employee and the compensation he thinks is reasonable/affordable to him.

People on H-1B are legally in the US, paying taxes and following all the laws of the land. If you have a problem with that then you might want to go to your lawmaker to change the law. In the meantime my suggestion is to post your concerns in the right forum. This forum is For Immigration not Against Immigration.
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My dear bitter angry American IT worker you should know that nobody is stealing your job. The jobs does not belong to the employee - it belongs to the employer and they can give it to anybody he wants too - as long as it is being done lawfully. If the employer wants he can give the job to a Citizen, GC holder, H-1B worker, F-1 student, can outsource it, or can decide he does not want to hire anybody. Nobody can or should force him one way or the other. The employer has to make a determination on the basis of the skills he need from the potential employee and the compensation he thinks is reasonable/affordable to him.

People on H-1B are legally in the US, paying taxes and following all the laws of the land. If you have a problem with that then you might want to go to your lawmaker to change the law. In the meantime my suggestion is to post your concerns in the right forum. This forum is For Immigration not Against Immigration.

You are wasting your time to logically explain something to this jerk. He has no common sense and talking to a deaf dog is better than saying anything to him. Here is his resume, be your own judge to decide -

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...587#post313587



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Buddy chillout. Check out the video first, all commentators were agaist the idea. Title is misleading in CNBC.


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Mr. Angry White Tail or whatever the heck is your name. Two things I want to say

1) H1B is dual intent visa.
2) H1B visa program is created by the USA government not by any foreigners. Every one
is following the US government regulations.?

You fraud, you might have out of work because of your attitude.

May be you can try banging your head to a monitor if that helps.


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1. The H-1B visa is not a dual intent visa because it was meant only to bring in temporay skilled foreign workers who were meant to return home after the legal limits of their stay in the US. That is the law.

5. The H-1B visa program is a fraudulent program that was illegally modified to throw Americans out of work and as such Americans are now forming groups that are resisting the importation of H-1Bs into the country.


I am an American who used to work as an IT worker until I was thrown out of my job. I am extremely angry and bitter and I work everyday to find new ways to direct my anger and bitterness against H-1Bs who have come to the US to steal our jobs.

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Because the H-!B visa program was only meant to bring in workers if their skill set could not be found in the United States, any attempt to use it for any purpose other than that constitutes fraud.


1. The H-1B visa is not a dual intent visa because it was meant only to bring in temporay skilled foreign workers who were meant to return home after the legal limits of their stay in the US. That is the law.

2. Attempting to describe critics of the abuse of the H-1B program as racists makes no sense because only those criticisms have been used to describe fraud in the program itself or have been attempts to correct untrue propaganda being spread about the program. There has been no "racism" involved in uncovering the many current abuses of the program.

3. If an American has a skill set that can be employed at a company, the law is specific that the H-1B visa program cannot be used to replace a American.

4. Attempts to fail to use "due diligence" to hire Americans for skilled technical positions competing against placement of H-1B foreign workers is fraud and widespread H-1B abuse can be descibed as racketeeing.

5. The H-1B visa program is a fraudulent program that was illegally modified to throw Americans out of work and as such Americans are now forming groups that are resisting the importation of H-1Bs into the country.


I am an American who used to work as an IT worker until I was thrown out of my job. I am extremely angry and bitter and I work everyday to find new ways to direct my anger and bitterness against H-1Bs who have come to the US to steal our jobs.
You have every right to be angry, and to have a point of view. Work the political system to get the system changed in your favor. Don't demean your message by mixing it with ethnic insults (such as "...Indians don't have any morals"). The large majority of H1Bs are lawful, talented, hardworking, genuine, and are not depressing wages. They are equally affected by the fraud that sometimes occurs in the H1B system. They can be your best allies in ridding the system of the fraud.
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Why are you posting shit like this when we already have a bunch of nut jobs trying to taint our image. You are a buttfuck sir!
Did you even see the video? Everybody on the panel was against it.
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Because the H-1B visa program was only meant to bring in workers if their skill set could not be found in the United States, any attempt to use it for any purpose other than that constitutes fraud.


1. The H-1B visa is not a dual intent visa because it was meant only to bring in temporay skilled foreign workers who were meant to return home after the legal limits of their stay in the US. That is the law.

2. Attempting to describe critics of the abuse of the H-1B program as racists makes no sense because only those criticisms have been used to describe fraud in the program itself or have been attempts to correct untrue propaganda being spread about the program. There has been no "racism" involved in uncovering the many current abuses of the program.

3. If an American has a skill set that can be employed at a company, the law is specific that the H-1B visa program cannot be used to replace a American.

4. Attempts to fail to use "due diligence" to hire Americans for skilled technical positions competing against placement of H-1B foreign workers is fraud and widespread H-1B abuse can be descibed as racketeeing.

5. The H-1B visa program is a fraudulent program that was illegally modified to throw Americans out of work and as such Americans are now forming groups that are resisting the importation of H-1Bs into the country.

I am an American who used to work as an IT worker (no, I am not Matt Krause or ) and I was thrown out of my job. I am extremely angry and bitter and I pray to God that he may help me direct my anger and bitterness against job thieves and H-1Bs who have come to the US to steal our jobs.

I agree with following the Law..but the law is not perfect. I work in the medical field and I have an H1B visa. Dont think that we got it all made and we have all the luck because:

1. We are not paid as much as you guys make and we most of the time work the hardest and handle the more difficult jobs.
2. We are under the employer's mercy...they can fire us, threaten us (sugarcoat it so it dont sound as bad as it actually is) abuse us and we would take it cause not taking it means going home or break the law (live illegally)
3. We work in places and jobs where most or no americans dare work.
4. As much as America wants to insist that they are for "equal opportunity" reality is..its not equal. We dont have the rights that american citizens enjoy and took for granted. And it can be majorly frustrating..but we accepted it. And when i say "we" i mean I and some people i know who are on the same boat.

Being angry is understandable...I would probably be if i was in your shoes. But dont be angry at the wrong guy...your fellow worker. Yes H1B worker can go home after 6 years...if thats what the law says (but its not). Because the goverment knows that if the foreigners go home all the time..most establishment we support would collapse..i.e. hospital, nursing home, cause nobody is qualified. It will take time to be corrected, America should learn to send their kids to college.
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Angry white guy??
why did you loose your job? were you the least productive and costing more? you did something fraudulent? you were part of a large scale downsizing?
Now tell us one thing from the above which was caused by a skilled immigrant worker on H1b?
Now if we go a bit backwards in time.....
who gave you the job? who gave the job to an H1b holder? answer is an american I suppose. the basic truth is, you were initially given a job, because the company was able to survive in the first place. Do you think american employers who hire H1b workers do that because they find H1b workers attractive???? No, my friend, the only reason is, that it is the only viable option economically.
In the global economy two things cannot go together; unless they are in a highly inovative field, and those two things are (high pay and high profit). This is simply the truth my friend. If you are able to munch on strawberries for 5 dollars a pound it is because somebody is out on the field at 4 dollars an hour. will you do that???? there is a lot of economics that you dont understand my friend.
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Because the H-1B visa program was only meant to bring in workers if their skill set could not be found in the United States, any attempt to use it for any purpose other than that constitutes fraud.


1. The H-1B visa is not a dual intent visa because it was meant only to bring in temporay skilled foreign workers who were meant to return home after the legal limits of their stay in the US. That is the law.

2. Attempting to describe critics of the abuse of the H-1B program as racists makes no sense because only those criticisms have been used to describe fraud in the program itself or have been attempts to correct untrue propaganda being spread about the program. There has been no "racism" involved in uncovering the many current abuses of the program.

3. If an American has a skill set that can be employed at a company, the law is specific that the H-1B visa program cannot be used to replace a American.

4. Attempts to fail to use "due diligence" to hire Americans for skilled technical positions competing against placement of H-1B foreign workers is fraud and widespread H-1B abuse can be descibed as racketeeing.

5. The H-1B visa program is a fraudulent program that was illegally modified to throw Americans out of work and as such Americans are now forming groups that are resisting the importation of H-1Bs into the country.

I am an American who used to work as an IT worker (no, I am not Matt Krause or ) and I was thrown out of my job. I am extremely angry and bitter and I pray to God that he may help me direct my anger and bitterness against job thieves and H-1Bs who have come to the US to steal our jobs.
This person's name "Angry 'white' guy" and what he writes seem to imply that "White=American". Not only is this racist, but also is the poster boy of those who don't know that there are white Mexicans, white Guatemalans, white Filipinos, white Zimbabweans. He's the type of person who thinks white people only inhabit the U.S. and Europe. I'm from Mexico and my sister is blonder than this hillbilly will ever be. He's a racist and nativist loser, so guys, stop wasting time on him.
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Because the H-1B visa program was only meant to bring in workers if their skill set could not be found in the United States, any attempt to use it for any purpose other than that constitutes fraud.


1. The H-1B visa is not a dual intent visa because it was meant only to bring in temporay skilled foreign workers who were meant to return home after the legal limits of their stay in the US. That is the law.

2. Attempting to describe critics of the abuse of the H-1B program as racists makes no sense because only those criticisms have been used to describe fraud in the program itself or have been attempts to correct untrue propaganda being spread about the program. There has been no "racism" involved in uncovering the many current abuses of the program.

3. If an American has a skill set that can be employed at a company, the law is specific that the H-1B visa program cannot be used to replace a American.

4. Attempts to fail to use "due diligence" to hire Americans for skilled technical positions competing against placement of H-1B foreign workers is fraud and widespread H-1B abuse can be descibed as racketeeing.

5. The H-1B visa program is a fraudulent program that was illegally modified to throw Americans out of work and as such Americans are now forming groups that are resisting the importation of H-1Bs into the country.

I am an American who used to work as an IT worker (no, I am not Matt Krause or ) and I was thrown out of my job. I am extremely angry and bitter and I pray to God that he may help me direct my anger and bitterness against job thieves and H-1Bs who have come to the US to steal our jobs.
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Yes Mr Angry White Male....First it was workers from Africa for 200 years and then from Mexico and Now H1Bs. You have pretty much maintained the tradition unsurprisingly. If you open your mind a little bit, you can learn a great lesson from history - You have always been on the wrong side.
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