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Old 05-13-2009, 02:23 PM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report...&asset=&ccode=

GM which is one of the biggest recepient of bail out money is going to export chinese cars to US market!! I am perfectly fine with that. Kudos to chinese car manufacterors. Now here is the problem...
1) companies which recieved TARP fund cannot hire H1bs!!!! but now it seems they can go and get work done elsewhere and then ship the product here??
2) Which is better for the economy?
a- skilled workers moving to the US and reviving the manufactoring base and this might involve reducing wages of course.
or
b- prevent skilled worker migration and instead import products from outside which will be effective on the short run due to the present capacity for borrowing heavily??

Consider these facts while answering;
but how long can you borrow?? dont you need to produce something here, in the US?? skilled worker reduces the wages? isnt that good to be competitive??
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:27 PM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report...&asset=&ccode=

GM which is one of the biggest recepient of bail out money is going to export chinese cars to US market!! I am perfectly fine with that. Kudos to chinese car manufacterors. Now here is the problem...
1) companies which recieved TARP fund cannot hire H1bs!!!! but now it seems they can go and get work done elsewhere and then ship the product here??
2) Which is better for the economy?
a- skilled workers moving to the US and reviving the manufactoring base and this might involve reducing wages of course.
or
b- prevent skilled worker migration and instead import products from outside which will be effective on the short run due to the present capacity for borrowing heavily??

Consider these facts while answering;
but how long can you borrow?? dont you need to produce something here, in the US?? skilled worker reduces the wages? isnt that good to be competitive??
Completely agreed. Please keep in mind, the whole H1 hatred is not based on truth and statistics but based on sentiments.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:31 PM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report...&asset=&ccode=

GM which is one of the biggest recepient of bail out money is going to export chinese cars to US market!! I am perfectly fine with that. Kudos to chinese car manufacterors. Now here is the problem...
1) companies which recieved TARP fund cannot hire H1bs!!!! but now it seems they can go and get work done elsewhere and then ship the product here??
2) Which is better for the economy?
a- skilled workers moving to the US and reviving the manufactoring base and this might involve reducing wages of course.
or
b- prevent skilled worker migration and instead import products from outside which will be effective on the short run due to the present capacity for borrowing heavily??

Consider these facts while answering;
but how long can you borrow?? dont you need to produce something here, in the US?? skilled worker reduces the wages? isnt that good to be competitive??
Completely agree!
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Maybe ex-GM American Workers will move and work to China under their H-1B equivalent programs.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:43 PM
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More times than not common sense goes missing among the highly educated. The trouble is, you mix that fact with added politics, and now you have a complete and utter mess. They are dumping money in businesses without making sure of returns. This economy is not going anywhere.... they can fool trusting citizens, but not people with common sense.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:58 PM
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Completely agreed. Please keep in mind, the whole H1 hatred is not based on truth and statistics but based on sentiments.
I will go a step further and say it out aloud: most people who are opposed to the H1 visa scheme are opposed to it because they read H1 and think Indian and\or Chinese.

The total number of H1B workers do not make up even 0.5% of the US Workforce but to hear the howl and screams it sounds like they H1B's have flooded the market and if only they could be kicked out, good old days of 14,000 DJIA and 700K for 3 bedroom ghetto shacks will return with all their glory.

And no I am not Indian or Chinese.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report...&asset=&ccode=

GM which is one of the biggest recepient of bail out money is going to export chinese cars to US market!! I am perfectly fine with that. Kudos to chinese car manufacterors. Now here is the problem...
1) companies which recieved TARP fund cannot hire H1bs!!!! but now it seems they can go and get work done elsewhere and then ship the product here??
2) Which is better for the economy?
a- skilled workers moving to the US and reviving the manufactoring base and this might involve reducing wages of course.
or
b- prevent skilled worker migration and instead import products from outside which will be effective on the short run due to the present capacity for borrowing heavily??

Consider these facts while answering;
but how long can you borrow?? dont you need to produce something here, in the US?? skilled worker reduces the wages? isnt that good to be competitive??
Post this question in Grassly's web site.
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Old 05-13-2009, 03:14 PM
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I mean give me a break. This is a nation that prides itself with pocessing the greatest brains. Well then does it take more than common sense to take a look at your greatest trading partner?? China?? Now lets see.... what drives china's economy?? Wow thats a question for somebody from Harvard/Yale to answer!! Well a layman like me would think the answer would be......."CHEAP LABOR"?
My chinese friends this is not to hurt you or anything. actually it is to praise your abilities and fault with US economy not seeing this.
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The total number of H1B workers do not make up even 0.5% of the US Workforce but to hear the howl and screams it sounds like they H1B's have flooded the market and if only they could be kicked out, good old days of 14,000 DJIA and 700K for 3 bedroom ghetto shacks will return with all their glory.

And no I am not Indian or Chinese.
I found this link by googling http://www.myvisa.com/Visasage/h1bfaq.htm
are there any offiical websites like USCIS or DOL which has this information?
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:49 PM
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Default why no discussion on getting GC

I see the whole forum is full on H1B questions and misc. Is the IV focus has shifted from GC to H1B????

Most of the guys who joined this forum has EAD and waiting for GC then why the discussion on H1B. Looks like the web address should change to H1Bvoice.org.

There are tons of website available for those discussions( only discussions), this forum to join together and act as community to fight for the common cause "GC delay" but now it looks like a ladies kitty party chit chat. Ever seen the anti immigrant website.. they are focussed on one and only one thing, raise voice against anti immigration. Atleast this is something we can learn from and talk sense here, rather than talking about srilanka civil war and fresno tax.
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This is immigrationvoice.com and not only gcvoice.com or h1bvoice.com. So let people discuss anything related to immigration (h1b, gc, family based etc.).

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I see the whole forum is full on H1B questions and misc. Is the IV focus has shifted from GC to H1B????

Most of the guys who joined this forum has EAD and waiting for GC then why the discussion on H1B. Looks like the web address should change to H1Bvoice.org.

There are tons of website available for those discussions( only discussions), this forum to join together and act as community to fight for the common cause "GC delay" but now it looks like a ladies kitty party chit chat. Ever seen the anti immigrant website.. they are focussed on one and only one thing, raise voice against anti immigration. Atleast this is something we can learn from and talk sense here, rather than talking about srilanka civil war and fresno tax.
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Guys look at what is going on around us.. .. .(this impacts immigrants... just a cover)

Consumer spending is down.. shops are closing down.. for that matter entire malls are closing down across the country.

Housing market is a mess... with prices still bubbled up in majority of the areas in the country.... what they call down 40% decline is nothing but correction after that rediculous increase at 20000 a month for several months until mid to end of 2006.

Insurance and Banking is F'ed up due to gambling and greed.

Auto industry is in deep s**t.. trickle down to parts manufacturers / dealerships.

Social security is in trouble

401K has disappeared....

Equity market plunged

Government run Medicare is in trouble..... (in view of government run universal healthcare that they have already proposed)

Unemployment is all time high..

Airlines facing slump...

And now... today's headlines.. cragslist shutting down "erotic services"... Does that sounds like more job losses? ... feel sorry for folks (customers and service providers)

Jeez...times are tough.... take it easy guys..

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report...&asset=&ccode=

GM which is one of the biggest recepient of bail out money is going to export chinese cars to US market!! I am perfectly fine with that. Kudos to chinese car manufacterors. Now here is the problem...
1) companies which recieved TARP fund cannot hire H1bs!!!! but now it seems they can go and get work done elsewhere and then ship the product here??
2) Which is better for the economy?
a- skilled workers moving to the US and reviving the manufactoring base and this might involve reducing wages of course.
or
b- prevent skilled worker migration and instead import products from outside which will be effective on the short run due to the present capacity for borrowing heavily??

Consider these facts while answering;
but how long can you borrow?? dont you need to produce something here, in the US?? skilled worker reduces the wages? isnt that good to be competitive??
Wrong analogy and this has very little to do with our situation.
Here is why:
This is not new for the manufacturing industry. These discussions have been raging for the last couple of decades. Car manufacturing Industry left the US decades ago. What you currently have in the US are nothing but 'assembly' plants. The big three source different parts of a car from across the world (Mexico, Canada and Brazil among other countries).
Less than 1/10ths of the nations workers are employed by manufacturing firms as per research done a few years back. Most of the jobs in the country are 'high-end' design, prototyping, R&D type jobs.
Manufacturing jobs moving overseas has just one explanation everywhere you look. Cost. Period. Look up and you will find no other explanation. It has nothing to do with 'skilled worker migration'. In fact all the 'low skilled' jobs have migrated outside the country.
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