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I recently went to India after a few years and saw a lot of development. There are better highways, malls everywhere and lot of restaurants. The salaries of people have also increased. A lot of people who went to India and did not wait for greencards are happy there.

Some problems like water, electricity, sanitation, corruption are still there.

What do everyone think. Let us share our experiences of India. Is India progressing as much as America at a good pace?
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I recently went to India after a few years and saw a lot of development. There are better highways, malls everywhere and lot of restaurants. The salaries of people have also increased. A lot of people who went to India and did not wait for greencards are happy there.

Some problems like water, electricity, sanitation, corruption are still there.

What do everyone think. Let us share our experiences of India. Is India progressing as much as America at a good pace?

Which place in India did you visit ?
I have heard about rapid developments in Noida/gurgoan/Hyderabad.Not sure if this is happening pan India.But yes we are on the right track...if population can be controlled it can get better
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I also recently visited India and saw development all over the place. Not just Delhi and NCR but smaller UP cities and down south. The only difference is that Delhi / NCR is developing at a much faster rate than other smaller cities but development is all over the place.

Three industries which have really seen growth are construction, cell phone and auto. Of course technology / service is the driving factor but I still feel India or even China have a long road ahead. Our country still lacks basic infrastructure, plus basic civic sense does not exist at all, no matter where you go.

Other major reason why I think India has a long road ahead simply because the common citizen is still not safe. You can tell how developed a nation is by looking at how safe children and older citizens are. At least in North India I don't think ladies after dark have a life, which is sad. One does not feel safe in their own country.

Plus the chalta haa attitude.

If one can deal with these issues (and others) then you can live in India.

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Which place in India did you visit ?
I have heard about rapid developments in Noida/gurgoan/Hyderabad.Not sure if this is happening pan India.But yes we are on the right track...if population can be controlled it can get better
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Default India is clearly on track in most areas.

India is clearly on track in most areas. All it has to do is catch up on lagging areas with china.
- population growth stabilization (one child policy).
- Manufacturing
- Large scale infrastructure.
- I hear from my mainland chinese friends, English is slowly becoming compulsory 2nd lang subject (not medium of instruction) in mainland schools starting at primary level. I think India should adopt it.

I also hear realestate speculation has clearly reaching its end on apartments /condos market. In core metro areas the apt/condo are currently priced way multiple of land share. Traditional Estimation method (land share value + construction + brand) is back on buyers mind (atleast for small projects). This will help spur growth by diverting investment to other infrastructure areas.

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I recently went to India after a few years and saw a lot of development. There are better highways, malls everywhere and lot of restaurants. The salaries of people have also increased. A lot of people who went to India and did not wait for greencards are happy there.

Some problems like water, electricity, sanitation, corruption are still there.

What do everyone think. Let us share our experiences of India. Is India progressing as much as America at a good pace?
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This is an immigration forum and not just for indians.

So why do we keep having these discussions that have nothing to do with IV and its agenda.
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I recently went to India after a few years and saw a lot of development. There are better highways, malls everywhere and lot of restaurants. The salaries of people have also increased. A lot of people who went to India and did not wait for greencards are happy there.

Some problems like water, electricity, sanitation, corruption are still there.

What do everyone think. Let us share our experiences of India. Is India progressing as much as America at a good pace?
the salaries increase to keep up with inflation rate. close to 8-9% (though its down recently)

spoke to one of my friend recently, pays 50,000 Rs per year/child for kindergarten.
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If India can sustain the current growth for next two decades then it should be world's third largest economy only being US and China by 2035. Fareed Zakaria has written a book "The Post American World" . very interesting read on China and India's growth and where US stands in this scenario...
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Well said and unfortunately its absolutely true.

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I do not know about jobs. One thing I have noticed was medium towns and big cities , like chennai, have dire environmental conditions. Pollution and traffic are so high. If you go out and come back home your nostrils, face will be filled with dust and smoke. In my home town road have gone from bad to worst. No planning involved in development aspects. building continue to encroach onto roads and traffic at the same time is going up. Dinking water and sanitory facilities are worst hit due to development process and lack of planning. I tried to buy apples for example. Most of the apple I find these days are little larger than peanut size. Even that would cost around 10 rupees. We are falling down agriculturally big time. It is very painful for me to see in such conditions while family members, relatives and friends still live there. More pain as I myself want to get back to India. I do know one thing now for certain. India might growing economically, atleast interms of numbers. But it take great leap forward to improve environmentally. This is what I felt with my previous expriences. I do not know how I missed those glorified life styles many people are talking about in India. I am, unfortunately , unable to sink it in. After all, what is the use of money or development, if you could not find quality water, food and air. Can we move easily and safely as we used to be 10 years ago?
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was wondering ... how do you measure development - increase in GDP/Par capita income/quality of life/.....

people in IT may be making good money but other areas are still neglected ...
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Im theory yes. But in reality I think 99% of the members are Indian. Just look at the country of chargability on the posts and how many non-indians do you see? (I am Non-indian BTW)


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I recently went to India after a few years and saw a lot of development. There are better highways, malls everywhere and lot of restaurants. The salaries of people have also increased. A lot of people who went to India and did not wait for greencards are happy there.

Some problems like water, electricity, sanitation, corruption are still there.

What do everyone think. Let us share our experiences of India. Is India progressing as much as America at a good pace?
Dalits enter TN temple first time in 100 yrs - India - The Times of India

Indians still inherit from Vedas....thats the fact....
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I recently went to India after a few years and saw a lot of development. There are better highways, malls everywhere and lot of restaurants. The salaries of people have also increased. A lot of people who went to India and did not wait for greencards are happy there.

Some problems like water, electricity, sanitation, corruption are still there.

What do everyone think. Let us share our experiences of India. Is India progressing as much as America at a good pace?
Agree with many postings above mentioning lower quality of life in India.

In any analysis we have to look at current situation, medium term and long term. Looking at it that way you see that the situation is not straightforward and feels like a loose-loose situation.

Right now, quality & standard of life in US is way way better than India and it is going to be that way for for at least 10 more years and may be 20 years. The living proof that this is true is the fact that people from 2000 (EB3) and 2005 (EB2) are hanging on to an unhappy job and joining such forums to seek a US life.

After 30 years or so, there is a possibility that US would be struggling under the weight of Social Security/Medicare, high cost and low growth scenario. During the same time India would be at going through the peak of its growth with fantastic educational system, universities, infrastructure, a vibrant and thriving middle class, less people below poverty line enabling a good social environment may be even host olympics etc. Unfortunately, we will be too old by then to take advantage of that boom, but in a weird way our kids would miss the boat as well. Our kids would be going through US education system and might be looking for jobs in India. This is ironic, as they would be in the same situation we were in Indian in 80's and 90's. Meaning both us and our kids would have missed the respective booms in US and India.

I almost think of the Indians in this forum as a lost generation that missed the boom, freedom and independence of having a GC by mid 90's or at least late 90's enabling one to start a business or get citizenship and take part in India boom while still holding US status. Given this situation, the best option for all of us is to get GC, get citizenship these two should take anywhere from 6 to 10 years depending on your PD. After that go and work in India if that's where the growth is and if not come back to US.
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don't shower me the red guys..I just put one of my view ..where India needs developement, other than economical..I have travelled all over India especially villages in North and West..and its a fact ..that we still..you know ..I don't want to write ..but people knows what I am trying to ..and the article published is just a village ..there are thousands such...Isn't it a frustrating/disturbing/embarassing on part of India, especially when India is about to join the club of developed nation ?
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