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man d2k.u want million dollars. u want million signatures.what else do u expect in million?

Its time we also realise what is practical.Not that everyone have GC as priority number one.There may a few guys who have that and many are already supporting this cause.


May be nowonwards each Tom Dick and Harry will start their own thread to write letters,do this ,do that.

I have decided to do things which are endorsed by the core in future.

BTB my letters have increased to 5 altogether.

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If want change need big numbers ...

All 300 letters so far from gc, citizens only...

All we promote is from Core and dicussed with State Chapter leaders only
If your statement has been endorsed by the core that they want a million number then forget about this effort.I am feeling sad that i was part of this effort.I am not going to be part anymore unless i see some direct addressals from core to do it hence forth.I wish your million signature drive doesnt drive away many more like me.
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If your statement has been endorsed by the core that they want a million number then forget about this effort.I am feeling sad that i was part of this effort.I am not going to be part anymore unless i see some direct addressals from core to do it hence forth.I wish your million signature drive doesnt drive away many more like me.
C'mon bestin, where is your sense of humor. Digital is part of the highly motivated Northern California posse
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If your statement has been endorsed by the core that they want a million number then forget about this effort.I am feeling sad that i was part of this effort.I am not going to be part anymore unless i see some direct addressals from core to do it hence forth.I wish your million signature drive doesnt drive away many more like me.
Come on dear friend. If core does not endorse something - they will let the members know. IV is just not core or chapter leaders, IV is everyone. Everyone can take responsibility and do something. Core just manages and chapter leaders just help implement stuff, IVs strength is its members.

Now different members come from different places, different backgrounds, different perspectives, so there could be a change in the general approach. Working towards a cause must never turn you down.
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My new target is 200. It was 100 before the deadline was extended.

58 collected so far (excluding the 24 letters at Fremont train station)

Besides, I prepare & mail about 20 envelopes a day to WH=> these envelopes contain letters coming in from several folks in CA.

This weekend, NORCAL will do not 1 but 3 drives:
Sunnyvale temple
Grocery stores @ Sunnyvale
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For more details, check out the latest messages on NORCAL yahoogroup!
Proud to be part of CA letter campaign with you folks! 200 here we come....will dig about in SF
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Thanks for you support on Immigration Portal. There were some good convincing words spoken from you and some other good people. Goodness will prevail
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2 men (waiting4gc + me), 3 hours, 1 ethnic grocer => 77 letters

Also got 2 more from friends.
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abhijitp & h4_hoping

I am also hoping for some tomorrow at a class.

Will update the letter counts on Monday. Buzz has it that IV has received ~1700 letters in the P O Box.
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bestin.. letters campaign is endorsed by the core. 5 letters is a great start. Hope you will fully connect with your social network to help IV in this campaign.

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I have decided to do things which are endorsed by the core in future.

BTB my letters have increased to 5 altogether.

Why do you try and find an excuse to do less? IV never said stop sending once we get to 10000... or 20000.... We should try and get AS MANY LETTERS AS POSSIBLE. Aim high my friends.

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Why do you try and find an excuse to do less? IV never said stop sending once we get to 10000... or 20000.... We should try and get AS MANY LETTERS AS POSSIBLE. Aim high my friends.
U got me wrong ,my dear needhelp.I dont need an excuse .What i am doing or have done is not becos of compulsion from anyone.U say as if u have paid me to do.Whatever every one is doing is to fight a common issue.BTB i have clearly mentioned that i will be gettig involved in anymeasures endorsed by the core,meaning i wont like to involve in demands by any passer by henceforth to send this send that etc etc.A simple issue is during the omnibus campign someone asked me for my name address and other details.Now he wanted my phone number to talk to.I mentioned to him to give his that i can speak to him.For that he is not interested.If this guy such a coward to even discuss his identity the why the heck does he campign for million letters and demand others identity.

But my point here was if we want to wait for million siggies for the core to get involved as mentioned by D2K,then it is not worth sending letters.I might get my GC with a PD july 2007 before we collect 1 million letters even with the current pace of USICIS.We find it difficult to get 1000 letters then u discuss about 1 million.Ok assume we sent 1 million letters.Is Bush going to have it safe and file all those papers and have that for discussion.By the time we collect 1 million letters we are increasing the Govtmnts expenditure in removing thrash from Bush's office.

Try to be realistic.Thats all my point is.

Earlier the dates were Feb 9th.I have been thinking that with those collected we/core is about to start a discussion with DC based on that .Now you say march .No one is stopping anyone from writing letters,but why cant we initiate discussion in parallel instead of waiting for 1 million number.I dont mind accompanying to DC is i have been informed atleast 15 days ahead.

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let's discuss effective ways forward rather than the pessimistic tone I see here.

Bestin: the core is involved. Some of the core are just very busy on IV stuff. I spoke with Aman last week he called me from the airport -- a trip to DC. Some people are cagey about handing out personal details and while it is frustrating let's have some respect. I'm one of the few who puts their full name in signature, and my user id is my name, and I say I'm from NY, so it only takes a telephone directory search to find my phone number and address. But you won't hear me calling people names for not giving contact details. Some people are more reserved than others, for example, my wife used to live in a communist police state where the state was out to get you, so she is more reserved. Frustrating I know. Enough said, let's look for positive things to do.

SO ON THE POSITIVE SIDE:
I got another 33 letters this week, and expect about same next week, and have 2 US citizens who will likely get me another 20. So I might make 100+.
My total in hand so far: 43

I'd be happy to continue for several weeks or months, but will go with what the core decides for drawing the line.

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Where you know someone who works at a different place to you ask them to collect some letters from their work place and give them to you or mail them to you. I'm expecting to get at least 20 that way next week alone, maybe more later.
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Could have got more.. but guess what.. one person from this group of friends had already got everyone else's signature and has mailed out 20 letters for me yesterday!! She is a citizen, and I'm so proud to know someone like her.
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1. Bush is a lame duck president now.

2. He is not going to do anything for anyone in his last few months. Especially for us who are not in anybody's radar.

3. The white house is better staffed to handle mail and has a larger team to scrutinize mails. Truth is Bush meay never hear about 25K mails sent over a month.

25 K Mails sent in 2 days well may be.

This is a good effort but wrong target. May be ppl sense that and are holding off.

4. We cannot be just an internet forum anymore we need meet n greets..periodic meetings that bring ppl together face to face.

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Norcal added 190 to the tally over this weekend!

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1. Bush is a lame duck president now.

2. He is not going to do anything for anyone in his last few months. Especially for us who are not in anybody's radar.

3. The white house is better staffed to handle mail and has a larger team to scrutinize mails. Truth is Bush meay never hear about 25K mails sent over a month.

25 K Mails sent in 2 days well may be.

This is a good effort but wrong target. May be ppl sense that and are holding off.

4. We cannot be just an internet forum anymore we need meet n greets..periodic meetings that bring ppl together face to face.
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That is right and there are "million" other reasons I can give you that odds are stacked so high against us. This is time to act not analyze.

Will you kindly show some team work and participate in the effort instead of providing critical feedback midway in the campaign. We knew what we were getting into. If you disagree with IV's goal that is fine too but it is unfair to hundred of volunteers who are as smart and analytical, as yourself, if not more and still spend hundreds of volunteer hours on this campaign and come back to be greeted by such unhelpful and critical posts.

The reason we might fail will not be because of high odds against us, or wrong target, rather inaction and refusal to either be a leader or a follower on IV campaign issues
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