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Old 10-05-2006, 11:42 AM
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Please try to post good news when it happens rather than you think it will happen. Many of us get excited and keep waiting for your update which may never come!!

Anyway we've now seen and experienced enough regarding this GC issue and prepared to see more bad news before the "final" good news becomes "real". But raising "false" hope like this before it actually happens may not be good for anybody.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:13 PM
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Do you only watch last 5 minutes of the movies ?
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Please try to post good news when it happens rather than you think it will happen. Many of us get excited and keep waiting for your update which may never come!!

Anyway we've now seen and experienced enough regarding this GC issue and prepared to see more bad news before the "final" good news becomes "real". But raising "false" hope like this before it actually happens may not be good for anybody.
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:52 PM
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Default Yes I do

I thought IV follows IB (Intelligence Bureau) way and don't like to post news which is not "true" and/or may give "hint" opposition damage its plan. IB makes any news public when it happens (like - arrest bad guys or failed plot) rather than making it a discussion topic ahead of time or need.

So intelligent posting is appreciated. As intelligent guy you must appreciate this fact rather than making it "ego" issue.

Regarding "watching last 5 mimutes" - Yes I do watch that and the movie too. But last 5 minutes shows the remix song which everybody likes. Don't you?
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default Do we still need to stay tuned??

Is there any stong reason, why this thread is not closed??
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:11 PM
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Is there any stong reason, why this thread is not closed??
You need to stay tuned, but not to this thread. This thread should be closed, as you rightly point out. But since it was started for no reason, IMHO, it probably won't close either.
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:23 PM
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Well core team gave us a heads up that there "might" be some update. What is wrong with that? If you only last 5 minutes of movie probably you should just read Headline/Announcement section in home page.

I personally will definetely like to get any update ( however small) from the core team.
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:31 PM
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Well core team gave us a heads up that there "might" be some update. What is wrong with that? If you only last 5 minutes of movie probably you should just read Headline/Announcement section in home page.

I personally will definetely like to get any update ( however small) from the core team.
If there is a movie, I will watch the whole thing, not just the last five minutes, AND I will also sit through the initial commercials.

But nobody will go if there's only commercials, and no real movie afterward
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Well already we don't get very many updates from core team because of "strategic reasons".

Now when you start complaining to them even for posting a small update the end result will be that you will hear even less on what they are doing behind the scenes.

When SKIL really gets passed you can read it any immigration website. Is that all you want?

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If there is a movie, I will watch the whole thing, not just the last five minutes, AND I will also sit through the initial commercials.

But nobody will go if there's only commercials, and no real movie afterward
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Well already we don't get very many updates from core team because of "strategic reasons".

Now when you start complaining to them even for posting a small update the end result will be that you will hear even less on what they are doing behind the scenes.
I must have missed the small update then. What was it? Even if there is a small update, that is like a movie, sure. But I did not see any update.

What we have is status-quo; the senate and the house have not agreed on passing any bill for immigrants. That is not new news. (The only thing that has passed is the Fence bill that is designed to help reduce illegal immigrants. )

But don't get me wrong; if I have missed an update, I am all ears. I want to know what it is.

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When SKIL really gets passed you can read it any immigration website. Is that all you want?
Actually, this is probably what is going to happen anyways.

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Default Benefit of the doubt!

The dilemma here is if you donít update frequently then everyone keeps asking about why IV is not updating the members. If you do try to update frequently but make a mistake along the way then people make a big fuss about it. What do you do?

I believe the core team was very genuine when they said they have an update which may or may not have been materialized due to million things that can go wrong in Washington. Look what happened to 7 or 8 immigration related bills house passed in the last week and wanted to include those bills as amendments in the DHS appropriations bill. None of them got included in the DHS bill. Similarly Senate and President didnít get their ways in CIR. In other words, if the majority of the house, senate, or the president canít have their ways, it is a little too much to expect that IV can do whatever it wants in DC. Things change by the minute in DC and that my friend how the politics works in DC.

Core team may have been very excited to share info with its members and might have jumped the gun sooner but it doesnít mean that it was intentionally done to get people excited for nothing. So please give them the benefit of the doubt. By arguing and discussing this further, you are only distracting the core team from the real mission and itís not helping anyone. So what if you got excited for a minute, is that really bad for your health?
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At this time we need members to participate in our efforts to prepare ourselves for lame duck session.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...7584#post27584
has some update on what we are working on and how we need participation from our members

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Default Latest update...here it is...& now no more lollygagging

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Well already we don't get very many updates from core team because of "strategic reasons".

Now when you start complaining to them even for posting a small update the end result will be that you will hear even less on what they are doing behind the scenes.

When SKIL really gets passed you can read it any immigration website. Is that all you want?
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If you have been following this thread closely, the latest update has been the call from core team for member contribution.

I have made my third contribution of $100 by paypal a week ago. Please let other members know what is your contribution history to IV because that will encourage others to contribute.

Same for Nonimmi.

This info. will also help clarify the doubts that some members have on you and nonimmi lollygagging on IV forum . If I don't see an update from you than I might be forced to flag you as a lollygagger.

Best!

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Let me tell you that I have not only contributed but introduced four of my friends to IV also. I never said anything against IV and appreciate the policy it has not to publish something which yet to happen. Read carefully what I said before you act.
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pappu can you give us some idea (broadly) if qga is still active on our behalf? what is their role here - do they help us reach capitol hill, or get our name out in the press, or somthing else?
QGA is active on our behalf. Even though lame duck session is months away, work continues for the session now and all the PR work happens all the time.
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