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Old 04-04-2009, 10:49 PM
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Just try to enroll into a PhD program and then you will realize what it takes to finish a PhD in STEM.

If it was that simple then by now everyone would be in Phd program, just like they are now in IT (no offense to IT people).

Such bills and piecemeal immigration reforms are long overdue and should have been enacted earlier. I commend & appreciate Jeff Flake and Senators like John Cornyn and Arlen Specter who are champions for STEM related bills and amendments. They are atleast bringing some hope to community.
I agree with you. I would like to see some support from IV for this bill. The bill is already introduced and if we can give some push it would be easy to get passed.
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This bill will benifit Univ Recruitement of Lecturers and scientists, with PhD qualifications and in some research areas also in private sector (If any left here in US,---during Obama tenure and after Out sourciing the research also to India).

The underlying condition is that Job should require a PhD....

Given the economy, one can easily imagine which employer would dare to say that a particular job requires PhD and stand the test of DOL


Looks like somebody from Immigrant community is working with House to plug the leaks....in the law....becoming more and more precise in law making....
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One of my friends who have finished Ph.D in computer science in year 2001 in US, he still found difficulty to get a job at that time and then left US. Suppose right now you have Ph.D in STEM, you still need the employer sponsorship for H-1b and then GC. If no employer sponsorship, even you have Ph.D, so how can you get the GC???????? So I do love getting Ph.D without tied to employers' sponsorship for GC may be much better!!!!!!!!! It is because some employers may find filing H-1b is both time- and money- consuming process and some employers may not like it!!!!!
Yes PhD itself takes 6 years and you get 1000$ each month during that period. Even after that you have to do a 1 year Post doc at 35K / annum. Hopefully after that you can land into a faculty position of 60 to 65K. Practically you have to endure 7 years of just subsistence living. Not to mention your adviser knows that you are foreign student and expect more work as RA. You are better off with 7 years on EB2 or even EB3. At least your employer is paying you more than 1000$ per month.

Lately there is an over supply of PhD from the tech downturn when many students
went in for PhD instead of working after MS. With budget cuts at state level and excess
of existing faculty (as STEM undergrad went down after the tech downturn), newly minted PhD can hardly get a faculty position unless you are from top branded schools like Stanford, etc.
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http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9131048

It is a mix of comments for pro/con.
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Hello all,
This is my first post. I am PhD student majoring in Math..........If this bill passes it will be a boon for all international PhDs. But congressman Flake proposed this in 2008 and it died very soon. I hope it will gain some momentum this time atleast. Is it possible to send a supporting letter from many international PhD students to publicize it?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-7184

thanking you
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Hello all,
This is my first post. I am PhD student majoring in Math..........If this bill passes it will be a boon for all international PhDs. But congressman Flake proposed this in 2008 and it died very soon. I hope it will gain some momentum this time atleast. Is it possible to send a supporting letter from many international PhD students to publicize it?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-7184

thanking you
Deepak
Count me in for the campaign and individual contribution. Admins here dont seem to bother about this bill. I sought help from IV a few times back but no one replied.

May be we should just send letters personally.
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Count me in for the campaign and individual contribution. Admins here dont seem to bother about this bill. I sought help from IV a few times back but no one replied.

May be we should just send letters personally.
I'm in.
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