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I think if we can mobilize politicians from India at least right wing to start a -ve campaign to retaliate the measures to kick American MNCs, I am sure we will have our voices heard here. I am planning on writing to BJP, VHP etc organizations right after elections. It is results time on May 16th in India, followed by a week depending on how the swing is. If we can mobilize enough voices heard there, I am sure we will see a difference here. If it is a sleeve's up business, So be it from both sides.

Any more help from other guys in this forum is welcome.. But if this bill proceeds, I ain't gonna stop..
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I think if we can mobilize politicians from India at least right wing to start a -ve campaign to retaliate the measures to kick American MNCs, I am sure we will have our voices heard here. I am planning on writing to BJP, VHP etc organizations right after elections. It is results time on May 16th in India, followed by a week depending on how the swing is. If we can mobilize enough voices heard there, I am sure we will see a difference here. If it is a sleeve's up business, So be it from both sides.

Any more help from other guys in this forum is welcome.. But if this bill proceeds, I ain't gonna stop..
heee.. start with Raj Thackrey and Karat.
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I think if we can mobilize politicians from India at least right wing to start a -ve campaign to retaliate the measures to kick American MNCs, I am sure we will have our voices heard here. I am planning on writing to BJP, VHP etc organizations right after elections. It is results time on May 16th in India, followed by a week depending on how the swing is. If we can mobilize enough voices heard there, I am sure we will see a difference here. If it is a sleeve's up business, So be it from both sides.

Any more help from other guys in this forum is welcome.. But if this bill proceeds, I ain't gonna stop..
Why will VHP, BJP help?
They will instead want you to come back to India to help India shine.

We have left India and want to leave its citizenship and adopt USA as our country but want Indians to help us break our ties with India?

This does not make sense.
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Why will VHP, BJP help?
They will instead want you to come back to India to help India shine.

We have left India and want to leave its citizenship and adopt USA as our country but want Indians to help us break our ties with India?

This does not make sense.
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dont forget we are big source of $$$$.. through remitance. Dont jump on every post without any knowledge.
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dont forget we are big source of $$$$.. through remitance. Dont jump on every post without any knowledge.
OK. So if your greencard is delayed will you stop sending $$$ ?
No . you will still send it. Now do not tell me that you will go back if your GC is delayed. That % is very low and even if it grows higher reverse brain drain is India's gain.

In fact you will reduce sending $$$ if you get your green cards fast. You will start investing your $$$ in USA and make your life stable.

So asking Indian politicians and parties for help because of $$$ is a failed logic.

This is a problem with lot of us. We think our greencard issue is the greatest issue in the world and politicians are waiting to help us. We do not see the politics and ground realties of the issue and only see a one sided point of view. Some people still think that in these times a bill for recapture is possible. They ignore the first post of the thread and ignore the fact that politicians of this country want them out of the country first. Do not think that just because you have an EAD you are not affected by this bill. This is just a start if EB immigrants only spend time on trackers and do not do anything meaningful. Many I140 and I485 RFEs and H1B extension denials are happening these days. That should also give us some clues.

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Default If this bill passes...

More than likely it won't but if does, We all can kiss a good bye to USA and GC..

Politicians help becos they want issues to get limelight.. They don't love anyone but power..

One more thing, I am still a citizen of India even after GC.. So I will have a right to ask them... This can be very easily painted as trade problem for India..

Forget about individuals, companies like Wipro, TCS etc.. also can't do business.. lets not discuss about if they should or not.. but it will be a problem for politicians if they start showing losses... So this bill will have much bigger problem than we could ever imagine...

Trust me every one of us will be impacted, it doesn't matter if you work for a small company or a big company.. its just a matter of time..
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It is a fear that they are trying to block H1b or GC completely. They are just imagination. If they want they can easily do that by reducing H1b/GC Cap. Basically many USA citizens want foreigners only when there is unavailablity of skills. I140 denials are more now because of many layoffs recent few years.

If they put a 30 day market test for H1b recruitment that will not be a big deal. If there is unavailablity of skill most H1bs can survive the test and can get a job with some delay. We everyone know what is happening in GC market test in labor process. Immigration lawyers will take care of it. 65k H1b every year is part of WTO and they cannot touch that number.

It needs to be seen the contents of the bill. If it is just to clean up H1b then we need not bother that much. If any poisinous provision then that should be opposed.

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OK. So if your greencard is delayed will you stop sending $$$ ?
No . you will still send it. Now do not tell me that you will go back if your GC is delayed. That % is very low and even if it grows higher reverse brain drain is India's gain.

In fact you will reduce sending $$$ if you get your green cards fast. You will start investing your $$$ in USA and make your life stable.

So asking Indian politicians and parties for help because of $$$ is a failed logic.

This is a problem with lot of us. We think our greencard issue is the greatest issue in the world and politicians are waiting to help us. We do not see the politics and ground realties of the issue and only see a one sided point of view. Some people still think that in these times a bill for recapture is possible. They ignore the first post of the thread and ignore the fact that politicians of this country want them out of the country first. Do not think that just because you have an EAD you are not affected by this bill. This is just a start if EB immigrants only spend time on trackers and do not do anything meaningful. Many I140 and I485 RFEs and H1B extension denials are happening these days. That should also give us some clues.
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It literally took an act of Congress, but a native of the Philippines and the mother of twin boys born in the Bay Area who had been threatened with deportation won't have to choose between separation from her sons or forcing them and her same-sex partner to leave the United States.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein on Wednesday introduced special legislation in Congress that immediately stays Shirley Tan's deportation order, and that if passed, would put her on the path to legal permanent resident status.

"You can't imagine how happy I was," said Tan's partner, Jay Mercado, a U.S. citizen. "That was the second time I cried tears of joy the first was when my kids were born. "... We were both just jumping and dancing yesterday, and the kids were really, really happy."

Mercado and Tan married in San Francisco in 2004, live in Pacifica, and are the parents of twin 12-year-old sons, Jashley and Joreine. Because they are a same-sex couple, Mercado cannot petition for legal permanent resident status for Tan, the way a heterosexual married couple can. Their dilemma has garnered heavy media coverage, including a story in the current edition of People magazine, after the Mercury News first reported their plight in March.

Tan had been threatened with deportation because her former lawyer had not kept her informed that her application for asylum had been rejected by the U.S. government, never telling her that the government had issued an order for her to leave the country in 2002. Only when immigration officers arrived on her doorstep in January, leading her away in handcuffs, did she realize she was not in legal immigration status.

In a statement entered into the Congressional record Wednesday, Feinstein said Tan's case merits special relief from Congress.

"I do not believe it is in our Nation's best interest to force this family including two U.S. citizen minor children to make the choice between being separated and relocation to a country where they could face significant hardships," Feinstein said
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To the Core Team,

It possible to work with these guys and try to include our provisions?

Recapture the unused visas. This is not going to bring new people but helps to those who had stayed studied and worked for long time legally and paid taxes.

Just thought..
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Here is the Grassley ofc press release -
http://grassley.senate.gov/news/Arti...eID_1502=20327

Grassley Works to Eliminate Fraud and Abuse from H-1B Visa Program

WASHINGTON – Senator Chuck Grassley, along with Senator Dick Durbin today introduced legislation to reform the H-1B and L visa programs. The legislation helps to root out fraud and abuse and ensure that Americans are given every consideration when applying for jobs.



The legislation makes reforms to increase enforcement, modify wage requirements, and ensure protection for visa holders and American workers. The bill does not eliminate the program or change the numerical cap of visas available to petitioning employers.



"The H-1B program was never meant to replace qualified American workers. It was meant to complement them because of a shortage of workers in specialized fields. In tough economic times like we're seeing, it's even more important that we do everything possible to see that Americans are given every consideration when applying for jobs. If there aren't qualified Americans, companies can use the legal immigration programs we have available, but we must return the H-1B and L visa programs back to their original intent," Grassley said.



In October 2008, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services released a Benefit Fraud and Compliance Assessment that highlighted rampant fraud in the program. The report revealed more than a 20 percent violation rate by those who use the H-1B visa program.



"When Citizenship and Immigration Services reports that there is more than a 20 percent violation rate in the H-1B visa program, it's pretty clear that many companies are abusing the program and not using it as was intended. Fraud and abuse of the H-1B visa program will not be tolerated and our bill puts companies on notice," Grassley said. "Our legislation to reform the program will benefit American worker, while still ensuring that U.S. companies get the highly specialized workers they need."



Grassley is a proponent of legal immigration, but believes that fraud and abuse has become all too prevalent in the H-1B visa program. He has led the effort to close loopholes and enact reform in the H-1B visa program and introduced similar legislation with Durbin in the 110th Congress. Grassley has also asked questions of both American and foreign based companies about their use of the H-1B visa program.



The Durbin-Grassley bill would, among other things:



Require all employers who want to hire an H-1B guest-worker to first make a good-faith attempt to recruit a qualified American worker. Employers would be prohibited from using H-1B visa holders to displace qualified American workers.



Prohibit the blatantly discriminatory practice of "H-1B only" ads and prohibit employers from hiring additional H-1B and L-1 guest-workers if more than 50 percent of their employees are H-1B and L-1 visa holders.



* Permit the Department of Labor to initiate investigations without a complaint and without the Labor Secretary's personal authorization;



* Authorize the Department of Labor to review H-1B applications for fraud;



* Allow the Department of Labor to conduct random audits of any company that uses the H-1B visa program;



* Require the Department of Labor to conduct annual audits of companies who employ large numbers of H-1B workers.



* Provide safeguards for visa holders so they know their rights under the law. This would include wage rates and access to benefits.



Establish a process to investigate, audit and penalize L-1 visa abuses.
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Maybe Grassley needs to chill out and see this video

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...rs_outsourcing



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Require all employers who want to hire an H-1B guest-worker to first make a good-faith attempt to recruit a qualified American worker. Employers would be prohibited from using H-1B visa holders to displace qualified American workers.

It is now taking an year for 50% of cases to clear to Perm. With increased volume, it will take 3 years..


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Prohibit the blatantly discriminatory practice of "H-1B only" ads and prohibit employers from hiring additional H-1B and L-1 guest-workers if more than 50 percent of their employees are H-1B and L-1 visa holders.

It will result in a registration of 10 companies instead of one by most Desi consulting companies.

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* Permit the Department of Labor to initiate investigations without a complaint and without the Labor Secretary's personal authorization;



* Authorize the Department of Labor to review H-1B applications for fraud;



* Allow the Department of Labor to conduct random audits of any company that uses the H-1B visa program;



* Require the Department of Labor to conduct annual audits of companies who employ large numbers of H-1B workers.
Endless RFEs from LCA will also start appearing in forums... Lawyers get rich..

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* Provide safeguards for visa holders so they know their rights under the law. This would include wage rates and access to benefits.
I got to see what they have in it...


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Establish a process to investigate, audit and penalize L-1 visa abuses.
This will result in, "Show me the guy, I will tell you the rule"
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I am just tired of all the circus on Legal immigration.

If they really thing H1B program is faulty, I think they should fix it. But dont do it in a vacuum. They need to understand H1b and Legal permanent residency are linked. So, if you want to make sure H1b needs to go through a rigourous recruitment process, that is fine, but allow anybody who comes out of it does not have to go through the same thing again every few years for renewal and once again for GC Labour, for 140 , for 485.

Where is the end, with all the RFEs and Audits. Is all the head ache really worth it.

I have been in this country for close to 11 years, have invested too much already, and it is really tough to get out but at this point I am on my last thread. Few more of such things, and I will have to just get up and move even if it means taking a loss and having to uproot everything.
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I am just tired of all the circus on Legal immigration.

If they really thing H1B program is faulty, I think they should fix it. But dont do it in a vacuum. They need to understand H1b and Legal permanent residency are linked. So, if you want to make sure H1b needs to go through a rigourous recruitment process, that is fine, but allow anybody who comes out of it does not have to go through the same thing again every few years for renewal and once again for GC Labour, for 140 , for 485.

Where is the end, with all the RFEs and Audits. Is all the head ache really worth it.

I have been in this country for close to 11 years, have invested too much already, and it is really tough to get out but at this point I am on my last thread. Few more of such things, and I will have to just get up and move even if it means taking a loss and having to uproot everything.

Unfortunately thats how the situatiion is. Speaking in the closed forum does not help. Need too get your message out loud and clear
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is there any campaign for h1b rule ?
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